Where are my libertarians?

Where are my libertarians?

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Getting cucked by their open borders bullshit

The Libertarian Party is controlled opposition. There are actually very few libertarians that want open borders.

No faggot, even AnCaps are not for open borders, that's all open society (Soros) propaganda.

On reddit like the moderates they are.
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Right here bruv
I don't know a single libertarian in my former college libertarian organization that wasn't very seriously against open borders.

The libertarians = open borders meme needs to end, it's only purpose is to divide the right

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>Moderate
Get your indecisive "third position" bullshit out of here.

You do realize libertarians are literally more against socialism than the "far right," right?

Nazis were extremely collectivist, and neocons want stronger military. The far economic right is not in between these groups on any axis.

At Ifunny fag.

Nice pic, ripe full of fallacies. We aren't indecisive at all. We can at least all agree on self defense laws, no two Libertarians have the same NAP.
Do children have their own?
Animals?
Communists?
Libertarians are not moral and can't agree on this shit. 1776 won't happen again because you guys are pussies and have been pussies for 200 years. You gave so much ground that you don't even represent what this country was founded for anymore. Fuck you and your irrelevant movement.

You do know that you're talking to a Libertarian, right? Did you misunderstand my post?

I want to call myself Libertarian because I can identify with the ideal libertarian world. But I know it doesn't exist and government needs to be established.

Is there a thing where we take the current American system, but just make it lean in a more libertarian angle?

Libertarians can't read, it's easy for him to do that.

I guess I did. What exactly are you criticizing here?

Just indecisive people in general?

What did you put down, fellow libertarians?

You're retarded, "aggression" for the purpose of the NAP is defined as the initiation of force against a person or their property. There is a very strict definition of aggression. Also you're a dipshit fag who larps like it's 1942 and doesn't realize subsidizing the breeding your lowest class has dysgenic effects to which the nsdap had to then begin sterilizing all the retards and degenerates they created. You're a complete moron but you'll never see why.

We'll save the white race without you larping basement niggers.

I concede, the test isn't great.

I put Strongly disagree.

"Third position" Nazi retard economics basically a more socialist keynesian corporate system.

Okay, I get what you meant.

I strongly agree, the white race has without a doubt been more productive than most races.

Lol, why? Are you brown?

right here

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>taking the test
That question alone should make the test an instant drop for you. Find out what you are on your own.

NO OPEN BORDERS, PHYSICAL REMOVAL, START UP THE ROTORS

Lol, u gay if you're not a far right libertarian.

>initiation of force
So communists can build an army and you can't do anything about it unless they attack you? Truly sounds like a good system. I'll ignore the name calling and knee jerk reactions you get from anyone criticizing your shitty ideology. There weren't all that many "degenerates" and "retards" in Nazi Germany. The population did increase, but quality of life, morals, and other good shit also did with it.

Fuck yes.

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Those are the left wing libertarians like Gary Johnson, fuck them. They are closet commies that deserve nothing but being thrown off an helicopter.

I'm sorry I should have included coercion, basically threat. If someone points a gun at you, you don't have to wait for them to pull the trigger. Same goes for someone building an army at your door. Faggot.

damn never thought about it like that

Also being a communist also violates the NAP

Open borders mean shit anyways if the government isn't handing out free gibsmedat and welfare checks, literally the only reason why """"""""""refugees"""""""" flock to France,UK, Germany, Sweden.

Once they have to work to eat, all the retards will leave.

Why is the purple square the only fun square?

Lib right checking in

What's the point of "muh freedom" if you end up thought policing worse than you think we do?
So banks can just kill people if they are "threatening" their profits? Your system just leads us into what we have now.
I'll say again: what's the point of "muh freedom" if you end up thought policing worse than you think we do?

> The population did increase, but quality of life, morals, and other good shit also did with it.

Yeah, """"good morals""""" determined by who? Some autistic imposer with his morality police?

End the welfare shit, naturally idiots, retards, and "degenerates" will die off, simple.

Because it's not about "muh freedom" you dipshit. It's about creating a proper hierarchy based on contracts and merit.

Paleolibertarian here
We're the best
Libertarianism is THE American ideology.

this

I would consider myself a libertarian/constitutionalist and I'm not for open boarders negro go home!!

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>Threatening their profits
No, that's not what threat is you brainlet. The threat of violence. You're not threatening someone by not using their service. Maybe read a book or something you illiterate fuck.

u r bigot

It isn't really only about freedom, it's more about property rights and free market, which leads to freedom, yet not all commies should be physically removed, only the violent ones who threaten to impose their system. But I still understand what you are trying to say, it's just that we are not like the hippies, at least the right wing libertarians.

This is why I am not a full anarchist, I am a minarchist, thing is someone will always strive to take power and impose their power over others, so we need to support a state that will respect our natural individual rights, kill commies and lobbyists.

This, Paleolibertarian is the master race.

we either have a holy monarchy or mincarchist society.

>create a monopoly and police force and a circle jerk for rich lobbyists and jews aka united states

you mean fascist italy?

could someone explain this to me? is this futa?

>Muh peaceful commies
No such thing. Remove them all.

>not all commies should be physically removed
>implying these rats won't just take whatever chance they got to fuck you over
If someone points a gun at your head, are you going to wait until they shoot to get rid of them?

But there isn't enough helicopter fuel in this planet to remove them all, think about it

Use a good ol' bat and/or shotgun

Im so fucking sick of everything. Also dox my pretend enemies. I'm so delusional at this point i think it will do any good.

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I was a libertarian like you once. JOIN THE DARK SIDE.

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fu

Lol, you were probably an open borders fag or a minarchist you cuck. You don't know shit.

>Yeah, """"good morals""""" determined by who?
The culture and history of the country? So what decent people in a white community would think they would be.
>It's about creating a proper hierarchy based on contracts and merit.
That doesn't work if people abuse the system. Jews get jobs because Jews help other Jews at the cost of everyone else.
>No, that's not what threat is you brainlet. You're not threatening someone by not using their service. Maybe read a book or something you illiterate fuck.
And how exacly are you going to stop Mr. Goldberg from using that as an excuse?
You still have the problem that the NAP is so poorly defined that bad things can happen. Do animals, children, etc. have their own NAP? How will you then deal with that?
Look, man, you guys still can't agree on what and what isn't covered by it.
I don't even have to do the dividing part of divide and conquer if I were a Jew because you already aren't even on the same page.
In what way did Fascist Italy blatantly bow to the kikes?
That still doesn't work out well. This country started off minarchist, then when the Articles of Confederation failed, they tried Libertarianism, which was then subverted into what we have now. I don't disagree with free market policy for the most part, but something has to enforce it and make sure it's not abused. That's what fascism is for. We are collectivist for the sole reason that groups are stronger than individuals.

geolibertarian reporting in

>Jews don't play nice
Duh, so don't play nice with them. Idiot. You still have to protect yourself. Carry a big stick. Create a NatSoc community and use nepotism for your people. Uncompetitive socialist crybaby.

>Left Libertarian fag reporting in
Rents due bitch. Pay up.

>So what decent people in a white community would think they would be
Decent people in a white community would likely have varying opinions regarding good morals. Morality isn't something you can objectively define, which is why most people abide by a "live and let live" policy.

hey there ancap brah imma just go ahead and harvest in the entire atmosphere because my air pumps and storage tanks are on my property.

>Duh, so don't play nice with them. Idiot.
Other Jews will play nice with them, and then we're right back to how we started, "idiot".
Individuals, no matter what they say, can't take on a group. That's why Libertarians haven't had 1776 again. That's why we aren't hunters and gatherers anymore. A group is better than being alone, even if you have to sacrifice time to make the group better. Libertarians sure like to name call and argue like children, don't they?
It was fairly consistent in Nazi Germany and in the past in western countries. The "morals aren't clearly defined" shit is fairly new. No drugs besides tobacco and alcohol, don't steal, work hard, fight injustice, etc. It's not hard, dude.

I hope that works out for you.

we all know mussolini was anti-racist and secretly liked jews.

besides, not bowing to jews doesn't mean italy wasn't just like that pic you posted. replace jews with "rich businessmen" and you get the same thing. fascist italy. america is more FASCIST today than it is communist. there's a very thin line between fascism and communism, and the united states establishment politicians, oligarchs and media are abusing the fascist nature of the U.S to create a communist dictatorship. mark my words. it's why we need to emphasize PRIVATE PROPERTY so that we as individuals know the fruits of our labor belong to US and not any collective.

the USA became a fascist jewy nation in 1913 because of the federal reserve act and the 16th amendment being passed which are both unconstitutional and should have never been allowed. we need to focus on that and abolish those cancers. we wouldn't have been involved at all in WWI or WWII if it wasn't for the federal reserve. no WW, no cold war. no vietnam, no commie civil rights sneaking to undermine private property, and no hippies and commies protesting war (that they secretly want) no FDR commie policies because no great depression. no LBJ commie great society

you see where i'm going with this

>Individuals wont beat a group
So form a fucking group. It's not like a magic NAP God prevents you from working together with other white people with the same interests. You must not understand Libertarianism outside of memes. I'm going to bed, I can't handle your facile interpretations anymore.

Didn't the Nazis practice eugenics? Didn't they silence and oftentimes kill dissenters who spoke out against what they thought to be immoral? The truth is that many people in Nazi Germany were likely forced to abide by morals that they didn't necessarily agree with. The morals were set by the few, not the many.

>there's a very thin line between fascism and communism
There's very big one, actually. Fascists let people have private property and wouldn't stand for the usury and shit the banks have done. Libertarians let this shit pass, by the way. America is not fascist at all.
>I literally just can't
That's right, fuck off. People won't unite if there isn't a clear threat. If Jews subtlety take over everything, you won't do shit as long as they APPEAR to play by the rules.
>Didn't the Nazis practice eugenics? Didn't they silence and oftentimes kill dissenters who spoke out against what they thought to be immoral?
Yeah, they put them in prison. Literally no one cared because they were right and the quality of life showed that. The only people that cared were mainly just Jews who wanted to subvert morality. Morality is a concept because most people have a good idea of what and what isn't moral. Nothing wrong with Eugenics by the way.

It looks like futaxmale

I FUCKING LOVE FREEDOM

>Literally no one cared
I'm sure they cared when suddenly they found that they were the ones in the gas chamber. You're naively assuming that because Nazi Germany looked like sunshine and rainbows from the outside it means that they didn't constantly turn on their own citizens and create a culture of fear and walking on eggshells.

All it takes is one little thing for you to disagree with, and bam, off to the slammer you go. Are you so cucked that you'll still be loyal to the government when it starts actively working against your own interests? Or are you just foolishly assuming that it won't?

>I'm sure they cared when suddenly they found that they were the ones in the gas chamber.
Didn't happen. Both gassings and people unknowingly ending up in camps. They had a legitimate reason for being in there. It's not much different than the helicopter meme you niggers spout, it's just that we actually imprisoned them and shit.

How do you say that
Is it geo like in geoduck
or is it geo like in george
or is it geo like in Geo

This entire thing is a massive strawman.

>They don't care about culture
Of course we do, we just recognize the difference between state and nation, which is something fascists have always gotten backwards.

>No concern for other people, only profit

Where does this even come from? Do you volunteer, pal?

>Waaah a libertarian called me statist!!
Probably because you're advocating for increased state power to solve a nonexistent problem.

>They don't define their words and they just scream NAP

Natural law: laws, rules, and guidelines for human behavior that can be rationally understood and determined by observing human behavior.

Non-aggression principle: the normative principle that no individual should violate the private property rights fo any other person.

>I cannot agree with anyone who thinks that strong government is a bad thing

Suck your bottle and let your nanny state change and burp you.

Fuck off.

So you're saying that the Nazis didn't turn on their own? Does the Night of Long Knives ring a bell?

Also, you didn't answer my previous question. What do you do when muh all-knowing gubmint implements a policy you don't like?

Yarrrrr!

dude it's a FINEEE line and you are subconsciously admitting it's a fine line. fascism "let" people have private property. so who's in charge? me or someone else who lets me?

literally the same fuckin practicality as communism

and america is increasing it's fascism little by little. which is also a thin line away from being communist. if hillary would have taken over, (yes taken over) the US would have been a fascist dictatorship, hillary's biggest feat would be very strict gun control. then bernie sanders or some other commie would win the next election and then BOOM...comrade bernie and his congress say you have to give your top floor to jerome and bonquisha because their great great grandparents owned sla...i mean were slaves ;) and now antifa is the bernie police force. and the 2nd amendment is obsolete.

you fucking fag, hitler took all guns away from germans

excuse my "you fucking fag", it's mostly banter

>Of course we do, we just recognize the difference between state and nation, which is something fascists have always gotten backwards.
No, the difference is that while we respect the concept of private property, you take it too far and worship the concept.
>Where does this even come from? Do you volunteer, pal?
It comes from the fact that you trust others to not abuse markets and create problems.
>Probably because you're advocating for increased state power to solve a nonexistent problem.
>Jews
>nonexistent problem
>Natural law: laws, rules, and guidelines for human behavior that can be rationally understood and determined by observing human behavior.
Which you don't, humans naturally group together which is why your system will fail.
>Non-aggression principle: the normative principle that no individual should violate the private property rights fo any other person.
So you let communists build an army? Cool.
>Suck your bottle and let your nanny state change and burp you.
Fallacy.
>Does the Night of Long Knives ring a bell?
Yeah, that time they destroyed the part of the party that wanted Communism lite? Again, we did exactly as we said. Communists are not tolerated.
>me or someone else who lets me?
You until you do something stupid. Kind of like if you were to break the NAP in your society.
>hitler took all guns away from germans
kek, he only took them from the Jews. Gun ownership increased under Hitler, pick up a book.
Fascism and Communism are very very different. Communism's no government, everyone will work for everyone else shit is the same thing you push. AnCap and Hyper capitalism in general lead to Communists popping up.

Forgot to do you for the last part
>me or someone else who lets me?
You until you do something stupid. Kind of like if you were to break the NAP in your society.
>hitler took all guns away from germans
kek, he only took them from the Jews. Gun ownership increased under Hitler, pick up a book.
Fascism and Communism are very very different. Communism's no government, everyone will work for everyone else shit is the same thing you push. AnCap and Hyper capitalism in general lead to Communists popping up.

>No, the difference is that while we respect the concept of private property, you take it too far and worship the concept.
What does that even mean, worship private property?
>It comes from the fact that you trust others to not abuse markets and create problems.
We don't not "trust" people not to abuse markets, we just understand that it's nowhere near as bad as socialists make it out to be, and that we can solve problems without forceful intervention.
>Jews
>nonexistent problem
You can collectively discriminate against Jews using private property rights in a perfect Nazi Leave-it-to-Beaver style white community.
>Which you don't, humans naturally group together which is why your system will fail.
Which we don't what?
>So you let communists build an army? Cool.
Communists don't have private property rights. They denounce their rights and say they don't have them, so we have no reason to acknowledge their rights.

Still conveniently dodging my question. I'll repeat it again: would you remain steadfast in your beliefs if one day your precious government unexpectedly came after you? "It won't happen" isn't an argument.

>until you do something stupid
yea but "stupid" as defined by government? you don't see potential for abuse in that but you see potential for abuse in private property rights?

ok, so he took from people he didn't like. just like what hillary and bernie wants.

communism is not VERY different from fascism. fascism is government controlling society. communism is... government controlling society. you say communism is no government, but communism can only be implemented by a government or else it would never exist. socialism (like fascism) is government taking care of society. communism is peak socialism

>Fuck you and your irrelevant movement.
>rocking the flag of a failed aspergerman ethnostate from 80 years ago

>What does that even mean, worship private property?
It is what you value over anything else.
>We don't not "trust" people not to abuse markets, we just understand that it's nowhere near as bad as socialists make it out to be, and that we can solve problems without forceful intervention.
You do trust them. There aren't antitrust laws, are there?
>You can collectively discriminate against Jews using private property rights in a perfect Nazi Leave-it-to-Beaver style white community.
Or one person could start dealing with them. Even a perfect society has it's bad apples, which is why a consistent state is there.
>Which we don't what?
Understand human nature and behavior.
>Communists don't have private property rights. They denounce their rights and say they don't have them, so we have no reason to acknowledge their rights.
They want to make a world where that is so, people can be hypocrite, crazy am I right?
>It's not an argument because I say so
It won't happen.
As opposed to stupid defined by some guy who shoots you.
>communism is not VERY different from fascism
Yes it is. We believe in property rights, mostly free market, etc.
We believe in money.
We believe in working for what you keep.
The only thing fascism has in common with Communism is the government thing, which communists don't even want. They want to be stateless, exactly like you guys.

>It won't happen.

Ah yes, because the government is totally infallible. Remember how well prohibition laws went in the US? Except in a fascist dictatorship the government executes total control and there would be nothing stopping them from repealing those laws. Civil unrest would ensure, and because you still have your guns, the government would be faced with the threat of a coup... which means they'll have to revoke people's gun rights to maintain order. See where this is going?

enforcing, not repealing

>Ah yes, because the government is totally infallible.
Not what I was arguing. Just saying that there would no reason for a fascist/NatSoc gov to go after most people.
>Remember how well prohibition laws went in the US?
Why ban alcohol? It's been a part of Western civilization for forever. The worst thing that would interrupt most people is banning porn, and even then other circumstances would make people not care, for instance, making women traditional and non-degenerate. Germans didn't revolt because there wasn't porn, dude.

I dont believe anyone is libertarian until they use their second amendment against mods

commies don't really want to be stateless. they want everyone to be economically equal. they only want to be stateless in that everyone is equal so a state is unnecessary.
>the government thing
which is everything. now you're getting it. a FINE LINE. all it takes is government to enforce something else but guess what, you already gave them the power. gg you commie now. don't tear down the berlin wall

The prohibition thing was just an example of how the government can betray the people, which would be extremely dangerous in a scenario in which the government executes total control over the people.

>Germans didn't revolt because there wasn't porn, dude.
Germans weren't indoctrinated by decades of normalized pornography, dude. How do you think people are gonna react when something that's become such an unfortunate staple in western society suddenly disappears? Furthermore, how would you go about making women into tradwives without causing massive civil uproar among the current population of whites? This all sounds like the groundwork for some kind of Utopian setting that we're light years away from.

>which is everything
No it isn't. There can be good and bad, big and small governments. They are all different.
>How do you think people are gonna react when something that's become such an unfortunate staple in western society suddenly disappears?
Nothing because people are demoralized right now. Public knowledge would increase under the NatSoc education system because Marxism would be out of schools.
>Furthermore, how would you go about making women into tradwives without causing massive civil uproar among the current population of whites?
It all starts with the next generation of educated people. We'll just have to do with putting those who refuse to learn into camps. Population decline isn't inherently bad.
>This all sounds like the groundwork for some kind of Utopian setting that we're light years away from.
Not really. Hitler doing it is proof that it can be done again. Hopefully outside circumstances won't force a war to happen this time around.

all fascist movements (including nazism) gave absolute power to government/military. nothing went unless government allowed it. what do you mean big and small government.