\Pol\we suffered a serious defeat and there is no way to deny that. Our allies with no sense of Optics Achievable goals or overall strategy have Tarnished White Nationalism, The Alt-Right or any similar movement.
Why our guys feel the need to wave the banners of failed discredited movements frustrates me to no end. I understand why. Those movements had great ideals and the potential for great ends. Its very natural to want to honor those those that have come before us.
That path will never succeed. Winners write the history books and paint the downfall of their enemy's as justified and inevitable. We need to form a new movement one that advances our goals subtlety without opposing the values and mores of the current order.
We will wrap up our Nationalism and Conservative values in meaningless liberal veneer. Coat hard bitter red pills in thew soft sweet icing of modern progressivsm. We build up benignly, attracting disaffected millennials looking for something to believe in.
Cville may have spelled defeat for the alt-right but it showed the lefts mortal weakness. Having nasty old Cletus running around with swastikas yelling about Jews made us so repugnant no one will associate. The left has shown they have their own versions of Cletus. Insane SJWs, militant race advocates, creepy sexual deviants. The left cant shed its undesirable elements without shedding its strongest support block. Baiting these nuts and turning them against each other will be easy, when they don't have a direct enemy to unite against.
Our path to power is simple We Build up ourselves And be our movements billboards. We treat it as a self improvement club unconcerned with how others view us. We don't preach or put others down. We Reject anger and bigotry. These repel support like nothing else. We don't play the lefts games, we view games as being for children. Over time we will subtly morph our praxis as the situation dictates.
The left loves to beat the drum of being on the right side of history but we will snatch that right from under them. We present them as being a sad leftover from the 20th century. Driving wedges into society in their naive goal of a utopia that cannot be. They spread hate under the guise of combating it and we wont be fooled by their game.
The aesthetics of our movement will Draw inspiration from star trek and other positive scifi properties. Our overall goals will be presented as vague and positive. Let individuals project whatever visions they want.
Anyone or anything strongly associated with failed movements will be rejected. We are something new something great and our ascendance is inevitable, why would we associate with losers.
The long term plan
1: Keep our heads low, Build up our numbers and Improve ourselves
2: Engage in Psyops to disrupt the left
3: Excercise our power as the situation dictates
Symbolism of the group
The moons represent Health and Self Control
The Pheonix represents an undying spirit that yearns for greatness.
Im sure you smart fellows can figure out the hidden meanings.
I Understand The pictures Look Rough, Anyone silled is welcome to improve them
Blake Morris
I like it, we promote white values instead of white people
Levi Edwards
Until the 88 gets dropped, the movement will never get normie support. Nazi Larpers are why normies won't take anything said by the right seriously.
William Lopez
Exactly, we take our ideas and repackage them to appeal to normies
Ryan Peterson
Charlottesville was fine considering it was an government-sponsored antifa setup.
There was one car accident. Stop being a pussy.
Carter Hall
It blows my mind how dumb the cville Marchers are, how can you go out with Nazi flags yell about Jews and expect it to end well
Adrian Nelson
STOP FUCKING CATERING THE LEFTS TALKING POINTS, THATS THE ONLY REASON YOU WILL LOSE JUST LIKE THE KEKSERVATIVES ALWAYS DID
There's 0.00001% Nazis and the rest are centrists opposing the antifa and the utter rotten establishment.
Tyler Martin
Fine?, all our allies are abandonning us, I know it wasnt a big deal, but the official narrative says otherwise, 20000 turned up in Boston, public support has swung against us, we need to rebrand
Gabriel James
No ones catering to the lefts talking points, we are subverting them
Approaching our goals from a different angle
Matthew Gray
But "we" already did that retard. Just because one guy had a flag, out of 5000+ people, let alone people who weren't at the rally, that doesn't change all that's been happening for years.
>\Pol\ >We Reject anger and bigotry You sound like a concern trolling redditor.
Nathan Wilson
We're going to be painted as Nazis regardless, that's how the discredit us. Simple fact is we have more numbers and more power. We just need to organize better, and we are.
Carter Powell
>how can you go out with Nazi flags yell about Jews and expect it to end well
Believing that you have freedom of speech?
Rich's mistake was going to the Kessler rally. If you want to have "upper class" white nationalism, let Rich have his torch rallies separately. The blue collar Heimbach's and Nazi's can have the Nazi marches separately from Rich's clean cut rally.
And to be honest, the rich symbolism in the Heimbach/Nazi rallies is more colorful and meaningful to our side (Nazi flag, TWP logo, Kekistani, Pepe, white pride world wide). These things actually mean something to our side.
Jackson Russell
Dumbass, Doesnt matter whats true, only matters what people believe
We have to say we are against bigotry, its like camoflauge
Aiden Garcia
Self improvement is a good selling point. The trolls out to trigger the lefties with nazi flags are in opposition to PC-Bullshit, so figure out how to sell that point too.
Blake Reed
There's no one in the alt-right that likes the Nazis or the 88-spouters which in reality always was satire, but that doesn't stop the mainstream media to brand everyone from Sargon to Akkad as nazis.
The defensiveness will be the undoing of everyone opposing this madness taking place in the west.
Alexander Hall
Not that I'm suggesting your conclusion is incorrect, it's more that we gained or lost nothing at all in the past fortnight. A bunch of lads with kontiki torches getting btfo pales next to the, what, four, five islamic terrorist attacks with unreal HD optics.
Normies weren't even discussing Charlottesville at work. Most hadn't even heard about it, and even the ones who watch the news concluded that AntiFa were the aggressors. The Real World is not the internet, it matters not what twitter promotes to that front page or youtube sneaks into the Recommeded For You lists. Trump has already demonstrated that he is at war with the Deep State and only they are getting excited about a "resurgence in neo-nazis". Sure, the Tech Companies overplayed their hand, but they'll soon dial it back again if they like money.
Julian Hill
Te leftist nuts will, but if we dont act like nazi's, normies will ignore them Any kind of WN is unnacceptable to Most people we have to rebrand
Caleb Ortiz
>we need to rebrand
You are a shill. Why throw out Rich's clean cut white nationalism?
>Boston
Boston wasn't organized by Rich's "upper class" white nationalism. Boston had nothing to do with us. Boston demonstrated that Northeast liberals hate freedom of speech.
Luis Lee
Ive heard alot of people talk about that nazi rally, they definetly noticed
Chase Lopez
Alt righters marched side by side with nazis, or atleast that tis what normies saw, we cant deny that
Owen Walker
Idea: Counter counter protest group. Anti-Communist. We will go out and intimidate antifa and beat the ever loving shit out of them if they try shit. The most disgusting thing about antifa is how they organize their violence. "Thos ebil violdnt drump" supporters are lone wolfs, usually after being agitated into doing it. Antifa have the "protesters" surround the victim to act as a screen, then their shocktroopers beat the shit out of them with weapons. They started assaulting people who try to record them and their violent ways. After we build up momentum and have a big enough following we can go after communist agents in public schools universities and finally the media. Just show up and protest until they get fired. If you can be blacklisted for being republican you should be fired for being a literal commie.
Jayden Thomas
ya lost me with star trek where the fuck did that come from
Jayden Clark
This isn't so much a mass movement as a think tank, pull the strings from the shadows
Matthew Wilson
Its just branding, star trek is the most well known image of a positive futurer for humanity, we will use that for our optics
Jayden Phillips
Getting into street fights with antifa is a losers game, We will promote our goals better behind the scene
Let them feel as if they won
Jacob Foster
>Any kind of WN is unnacceptable
No way, fuck you shill. White nationalism is the only thing we want. We want a community free of brown parasites and communists.
Everyone it's clear now that the OP is a shill.
Justin Ramirez
Im talking about how normies see things,
Im starting a Crypto WN Group
did you read the OP
Joseph Morris
We can be against pc bullshit
Attack it from an intellectual angle
Scientific progress will never succeed if we censer ourselves
Christian Nelson
>Im talking about how normies see things,
Normies need to get comfortable with Rich's clean cut white nationalism. If other ethnic groups can have explicit ethnic organizations, why can't white people?
Brody Ortiz
>Centauri club
stop reminding me that Vir is dead pls
Blake Bennett
>Crypto WN Group
This already exists, it's AmRen.
Hudson Hall
Nice, signing petition
Exactly We are loosing and need to change up our strategy
Be individually stronger and unite under common values
Samuel Reyes
Why limit yourself to a white only movement, when you can promote the same values to all people. That would make it less threatening and more easily accepted.
Grayson Ramirez
>AmRen
Their Tagline is news and info on interracial crime
Not exactly very Crypto
Ian Wilson
>all our allies are abandonning us
Actually it helped uncover who our allies really are. When Trump was pressed out the issue, he defended us against antifas (he calls them alt-left). Ann Coulter is an ally. It just shows you how bad the infiltration of the Republicans is with cucks, and how close American whites are to being the oppressed race in a new American apartheid.
I have found four different mainstream journalists (they are not on our side), but they all condemned and confirmed the antifa violence (taylor lorenz, a CNN guy, a Fox News guy, and the NYT's "sandburg" lady).
Alexander Reyes
Exactly we have position our movement correctly
Nonwhites arn't going anywhere might as well civilize them
Liam Morris
Trump got slammed on that so badly, he had to fire Bannon.
Thats our problem, our allies don't understand Optics, Trump sould have just said NAzis are bad and left it at that
Austin Nelson
They are trying to rebrand and redirect as a d&c strategy. Start Trek as an idealistic post-scarcity, pseudo-commie society is a poorly disguised attempt to capitalize on the geek element of the board to form yet another politically correct cult-like group. Just sage and ignore this bullshit.
Noah Wood
How narrow must your vision be to ignore:
>A lifetime of the Ashkenazi blaming the non-jew for his crimes against humanity >countless wars fought for a handful of people >entire peoples being killed, murdered, used as experiments and displaced for a handful of Jews >Jews have weaponized the dark races against all things White; and have no clue that they are next >How many nations must they be booted from before OP gets it? How many, 1, 110. 150? How many is enough? >How is it that such a small group of peaople can bring Goy against Goy as in WWI and WWII? >Why was their God a no-show when they were being turned to Ash? >Why were they targeted to wear little Yellow stars on their lapels? ...to be identified as a separate group? >thy hate Christians and Christianity and they won: Christianity is dead. those who claim to wear "THE ARMOR OF GOD' sit on lard asses, eating marinated Pork Chops, boxes of Zebra cakes and watch the telly non-stop, buy useless shit they'll never use and pray that they win the lottery. for any other ideas hey are completely apathetic >the only people who carry lit torches in the streets, get called Nazi's by lard ass Christians
What other proofs do you need ope'?
Easton Gonzalez
The invite to the discord doesn't work dude
Kayden Long
Look at these two shills. Whites have ethnic interests too.
>Nonwhites arn't going anywhere
Why not re-segregate? Obviously blacks hate America and they hate white people. They keep tearing down statues and having BLM riots. Blacks would be happy to be relocated to a new black ethnostate in the Deep South.
Samuel Gomez
Fuck rebranding.
Have you fuckers lost your way? We redpill. That is who we are and what we do. We are right. They are wrong. We bring a flamethrower of Truth to everyone if they can handle it or not.
Fuck the Nazis. Yes, they are better than the Communists on the Left, but only by a little. There is an element of truth to what they say, that the government is attempting to breed out white people, but that is because white people are not having kids (due to economics, etc) leading to a future demographic problem, even bigger than the boomer's sickly asses.
Anybody saying we are loosing is a little bitch, that needs a punch in the face to toughen up.
Landon Lopez
The way forward is destroying bigotry as a political concept. Saying you are not bigoted agrees with their notions of "stopping hate and racism," a.k.a. suppressing white male shitlords and promoting herdthink instead.
Asher Richardson
>Trump got slammed on that so badly, he had to fire Bannon.
It's obvious you're a shill. That isn't even true. Bannon resigned before, and Bannon didn't have anything to do with the Charlottesville rally. Furthermore, as it turns out Trump is more of a white nationalist than Bannon.
Chase Cox
We want to see a black man, be proud of his black wife, and have the tools available to keep their black kids from falling victim to the divisive racial hatred from the past. That is a future we should work together to make possible. Shit like this.
Imnot saying w copy STs political oppinions, just the general vibe of a positive advanced human civ
Lefties say they are progressive and on the right side of history'' we can subvert that
Jackson Collins
>Why not re-segregate? Egalitarianism means that Jews and Blacks, two sides of the same coin, have their won ethnostates and unlimited access to whitey's everything.
Alexander Jackson
If you want to go even more crypto than that join an Asatru group.
Robert Fisher
The normies are seeing that the media is lying and increased sensorship, you can see the comment-section on any youtube video about the matter
Julian Harris
Normies will ignore you and call you crazy, all you accomplish is alienating yourself
Jordan Bennett
>Fuck the Nazis When you say Naz's, do you mean the Ashkenazim?
There is a group who has historically masked their works behind a veil. Is it possible you have been lies to your entire life?
Luis Bailey
I agree, but we need to build up numbers and clout before we can start influencing public oppinion
Leo Nelson
Exactly
That was to save face, the timing shows the events are obviously related
Caleb Bailey
>checked No need th rebrand. Normies respect strength and guts that will defend them. We shouldn't let a car wreck derail us. We need to change the story and push the cow was a terrorist, which is the truth. Only change we need to make is from 88 to 76. We need to emphasize American Ethno-nationalism with American symbols
Benjamin Stewart
YouTube comments are not indicative of wider public oppinion
Mason Young
Yes normies respect strength but also have to be reasonable, calling a woman who just lost her life a cow comes off a psychopathic
Mason Hernandez
>We want to see a black man, be proud of his black wife
Trust me, blacks are already ethnically proud.
>and have the tools available to keep their black kids from falling victim to the divisive racial hatred from the past. That is a future we should work together to make possible.
Like the Democrats platform? You are obviously a leftist and a shill. Get out of here. What assistance do regular white people get? They only get oppressed now.
>divisive racial hatred
Why not welfare benefits based on class or income rather than specific racial handouts for blacks and illegal Mexicans?
Isaiah Sanchez
I was poking around another board early this am, and they were talking about reddit and pol, and one guy made the comment that Sup Forums was not loosing, that our ideas seemed to be spreading, that there was too much of our ideology to be going around for it to just be raids.
Besides, FUCK the normies It is their ease of being lead around by their nose that got us all so utterly clusterfucked. Do you like the fact the millenials have no jobs? Do you like the fact our heavy industry is gone? Do you like the fact our imperial might is going to dissolve within a generation? Do you like the fact the bankers were bailed out with the public purse? FUCK THE NORMIES. We will tear at their minds and make them understand their utter failure and they will HATE the status quo as much as you.
How can you ever have a functional civil society with a bunch of idiots walking around with blinders. TEAR THEM OFF, MAKE THEM STARE INTO THE SUN. They will know all that we know, and they will be our brothers.
Samuel Martin
A return to the strong family unit is a must. The building block of a successful community starts with a successful family. How do we get the topic of marriage and family courts brought up without triggering feminist rage?
Jaxon Nguyen
How about better handouts for married women, and discouraging single mothers milking the system.
Jaxson Cook
Because we tried that racial harmony idea for the last 60 years and that's exactly why we are here now. Fighting nigs and commies, with our culture wrecked, our rights denied, and our race about to brushed once we're a minority.
Camden Parker
Far more than the mainstream media
Anthony Garcia
You have to RP people in steps, or they will shut down and ignore you.
We can accomplish our goals together.
Feed people increasingly unwaterd down rps untill they know the truth
Christian Hill
This. Fair weather friends are not friends. They fled at the first sign of trouble, without waiting for any facts.
Levi Phillips
Normies listen to MSM, they dont develop their oppinions based of YT comments
John Barnes
Jesus Christ, fucking kill yourselves.
OP is a concern troll shill trying to defang the "far-right".
Lincoln Wood
The narrative matters more then facts, most people dont care about the truth.
Spencer let the media paint us as a bunch of nazis
Ryan Gonzalez
No and fuck your noise. When I say FUCK the Nazis, I mean the guys walking around hating all the minorities and talking white supremacy.
Like it or not, we imported a shit load of black people because southerners were just too fucking lazy to pick their own god damn cotton. They are now equal citizens, If you want to kill them all, you will make an enemy of me and of most Americans.
You want to change how welfare works? You want to not have HUD build section 8 housing in your nice neighborhood? Well now you are horse trading, and I can work with that.
Henry Fisher
We can approach our goals from different angles
What has your methods accomplished?
Bentley Taylor
Then don't call her a cow. Call her what she is, an antifa terrorist.
Adrian Sanchez
She was breaking the law by participating in a riot.
Mason Walker
So do you recommend a whites only segregation zone? Spin it as a place for evil racists to live and keep all the darkies out. Then you can live in peace?
Jeremiah Williams
>We Reject anger and bigotry?
Fuck you nigger
Sebastian Hill
Exactly there here, we have to work with them as best as we can
Kayden Ward
>with no sense of Optics Achievable goals or overall strategy have Tarnished White Nationalism, The Alt-Right or any similar movement.
Why are you capitalizing random words like a full blown autistic fucking retard, like chris chan?
Logan Hall
>what is reddit's t_d?
Thomas Rivera
Then we fucking take over the narrative. We did that during the election, we do it again now.
Joseph Nguyen
Normies listen decreasingly to MSM
Joshua Phillips
Normies think shes a hero, the more you insult her the stronger those feelings are, ITs like the Khan family from the election, trump attacked them and it made the story bigger. If he ignored the m the story would have fallen off faster
Do you have any sense of narrative spinning. We can pursue things indirectly
Angel Reed
Bump for visibility, this has potential
Levi Watson
Now associated with nazis thanks to many trump hats at cville marchers
Colton Perry
Exactly thats my plan, subvert the lefts narrative, steal moral high ground
Jonathan Collins
Good, do you have any suggestions?
Anthony Gutierrez
Because he's a shill or a redditor who doesn't know how to post on Sup Forums.
It reminds of all the shilling that went on after HeilGate.
We helped to elect the President of the United States.
We got the phrase "white nationalism" into the mainstream media so now normies are opening their dictionaries to find out what nationalism is.
We've redpilled thousands of white people with our memes. Possibly millions at this point.
Nicholas Cooper
>nazis are fine goy, keep marching and doing Roman salutes, normie support? Who wants that. We are a super sekrit club and actually solving anything would ruin the fun of larping Kill yourself schlomo Anyone who still unironically thinks nazi imagery is acceptable is either a retard or a shill
Oliver Fisher
People in MAGA hats were getting called racist, Nazi, and attacked long before Cville.
Samuel Bennett
People will redpill themselves in steps. As long as we hold to our ideals, and laser through the propaganda bullshit generated by the Commie Left we will win.
Look at all the pitiful memes generated by the Larpers. Such a bunch of sad sacks of shit.
This glorious place is the epicenter of cold hard Truth. The normies, starting with the fucks at reddit take a peek into the black TRUTH here, and scurry back with a little bit of it. They cannot help themselves, any more than we can leave. Like the smell of perfume in a room, the ideas cannot help but spread, it is part of the human condition; as ideas are a virus of the mind. For every propaganda piece the Red Commie puts out deflecting the spread of TRUTH a thousand memes shall flow.
I almost pity the Commie Left. I really do. If only they had a soul, that is.
Joseph Hernandez
Yes and now that behaviour is considered acceptable
Before it was fringe
Benjamin Flores
YES, this is the ticket. This is thinking.
Jaxson Parker
>Why are Blacks afraid to leave the plantation? >Are they afraid of a greater success rate? >Do they need to be perpetual professional victims like the Jew who owns every square centimeter of their Black asses?
0:23 s that sums of the attitude of Blacks, Niggers, Black Supremacists, Black Separatists and Blacks who choose the Alt-Left over self-determination.
Exactly and we need fresh new imagery that hasnt been tainted
Angel Harris
>Normies think shes a hero, the more you insult her the stronger those feelings are,
No, we need to continue the attack against Heather Heyer who was breaking the law participating in a riot, unlawful assembly, and mob assault at the time of her death.
It's obvious you're a shill, or even worse a government asset trying to steer the alt-right. It's not the government's job to control people's political preferences. The people's political preferences should control the government.
>ITs like the Khan family from the election
It's not at all like the Khan's because the Khan soldier didn't commit any crime. Heyer committed crimes.
>If he ignored the m the story would have fallen off faster
I can agree with this. Hopefully Trump understands this. You can ignore what the opposition wants and the story gets buried.
Mason Williams
Making your post longer and seemingly reasonable won't hide your true intentions jewrat shill. Charlottesville changed nothing, the left have always called us nazis/racists/bigots and have always been able to pick out isolated rednecks, white supremacist trolls, or even their own agents false-flagging as alt-right radicals, to denigrate the larger movement as a whole. These efforts have failed and will continue to fail simply because we walk in the light of truth. In the past the lies of the left were easy to accept by normies, times of peace and plenty make it easy to ignore the hard truths of life and dismiss them as racist. After 8 years of Obama, 8 years living with the lie, the world is falling apart at the seams. Under such geopolitical instability, it's impossible for the average man to accept the lie as absolute, in spite of decades of mental conditioning. The enemy continues to push the lie regardless, and in so doing undermine their own system of control by exposing their true nature. That is Trump's greatest gift to the people, he has exposed the systemic corruption and the new aristocracy that dominates our government. What the reptilians never understand, even when Trump is defeated it is our victory, because every time their agents in government and the media undermine his agenda and America's position in the world, they expose a little more the extent of the corruption. In the end if Trump wins, the country will be reborn, the new aristocracy will be driven into the fringes of society, and a new era of peace and prosperity will start the cycle over again. If Trump fails, America will continue to decline, war will ensue over the resulting power vacuum, and our enemies will perish in the cleansing fire leaving only the strong. Time is on our side, nature is on our side. We need only gather our strength and arms and wait for the coming madness.
Aiden Martinez
I cant join the discord post anoter link pls
Benjamin Kelly
>\Pol\ >redditspacing How can you fags not see this?
Asher Robinson
There's nothing you can do about possible plants wearing Nazi flags, there was only one at the event anyway, and the media did its usual thing or creating a narrative around that.
If you care so much, go talk to people who organize those groups and demonstrations to screen people better, whining on Sup Forums about "MMUUUHH EBUL NAZEES" won't change anything.
You haven't provided any evidence for this. And the left getting violent is good, it will finally make people respond appropriately.
