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What goes on here? Why doesn't Poland annex it?

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Russian ICBMs and anti-air and missile. Lots and lots of em.

>Why doesn't Poland annex it?

Probably because Poland, or what will left from it, don't want to get annexed by Russia

Most militarized spot in europe. Literally a giant military base.

Cause it's German clay.

Germans have no clay anymore.

Interesting. Wonder what the borders are like lol

Because it can't and this land doesn't belong to Poland.
Also this map is hilariously wrong.

No real reason to do so. This clay is just not worth it. It's basically historical german clay. Taking a piece of Ukraine where Lviv is would make more sense, that area was pretty much always Polish.

>Poland stealing more rightful German clay

It just fence with movement trackers. Nothing special.

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As open as your mom, faggot, Russians love buying Western stuff.

>Annexed by Russia AGAIN.

FTFY.

This one is closer to the truth.

>Implying Germany has any clay left or G*rmans won't go extinct in 30 years

They'll have a clear casus belli

A simple fence, thats it. lmao

Germany is still whiter than poland because slavs aren't white
>all that white germanic land stolen by asian gopnik bydlo commifucks

After the cold war russia wanted to give it back to us but our government said no thx...

alcoholism, aids, suicides, abortions and krokodil

oh, and it's a staging area to re-invade Poland ...

Reclaim your lands cucks or just die out already. Pick one

The real reason why russians hold onto it is really simple.
About 90 percent of all amber in the world is located in that small spot.

nah, you lost the war so the Russians took one of your cities. That's how war works.

Also, Brazil is literally whiter than Germany.

>Because it can't and this land doesn't belong to Poland.
Actually it does because the Prussian Hohenzollern dynasty died out.
Well this.

You're stupid

Considering there are about 80 million Germans living here that means we're ~100% white. Great statistic genius.

And naval base. And nukes.

>Why doesn't Poland annex it?
Poland doesn't exist since 1795. This country is really a spectre of a country, it doesn't control itself, it doesn't decide about its safety, basically the only way this country can survive is when its enemies will collapse before they can attack

Poland is as dead as Europe, annexing anything doesn't matter, because doom awaits us all

>Taking a piece of Ukraine where Lviv is would make more sense, that area was pretty much always Polish.

hohols removed polack. Poles were more than 60% of the population, but are now less than 1%

Lviv is pretty much pure Ukrainian city now. They hate russians and poles equally there. Ukraine can easily beat Poland in a 1 on 1 fight without allies or foreign intervention, Poland is never getting those areas back.

>Why doesn't Poland annex it?

The Russian forces in Kaliningrad can pretty much solo Poland by themselves if the rest of NATO stayed out of it.

In 1991 the Russians offered this to the Lithuanians,then Polish and finally the Germans, but no one wanted to buy it from them, what a shame, but now it is better in Russian hands.

>Lviv is pretty much pure Ukrainian city now.
So what, we can reverse what happened by expulsion.
>They hate russians and poles equally there. Ukraine can easily beat Poland in a 1 on 1 fight without allies or foreign intervention,
Bwhahahaha!
>Poland is never getting those areas back.
We'll see.

The last time Germany tried to reclaim it's stolen land from Vodka niggers a bunch of white Germanics from UK had to start world war 2 on your behalf.

After 1991 CCCP have fallen and then beautiful border with Russia was gone but one border with Kaliningrad went into life. We love Russia what this would do to Poland if we annex Kaliningrad? I love Kaliningrad as much as I love Russia and want this to stay like it stays for years.

Basically this. Last real hope is some sort of dictatorship/bringing back monarchy.

make it happen

Because it's a poor disgusting shithole full of commieblocks, which in turn are full of russomongols

The only use it has these days is for military bases and nuke storage

What a shame that Königsberg ended up that way

No, it justz has more White inhabitants,because it is a bigger Country of Course.

Germany is whiter you Retard, the majority of Brazilians aren't White and the White People are perhaps a bit darker,not as pale/White as Germans.

We are 82% inhabited by White People, if we get non-White migrants away everything will be fine.

Yes it is, the sense of Poland annexing it would be to control all of East Prussia,which they only do to half.

Fuck either Poles are defeatists or Cringy Nationalists, just stop it, we can save ourselves!

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>Posting this
>Canadian
>Anti-Polish
Nope,just no, Ukraine is a fake Country created by Austro-German Expansionists who had an interest in weaking and avoiding Russia.

It is an historical border Region between Russia and Poland, Ruthenian dialects are hybrids.

Ukraine should be Russian/Polish just like Canada should be British/French.

Why did the Germans help Italy so much during the war. Italy were so shit. wasted alot of German resources. But mostly Adolf btfo himself by trying to invade Russia. Dumbass. Then the Brits btfo him which led to an hero kek

I'm not anti-Polish, just stating the reality. If this happened IRL
Poland would be most based country in Europe.

>Yes it is, the sense of Poland annexing it would be to control all of East Prussia,
But why, besides the borders looking much better? I mean strategically I know why, but at what cost?

No man on earth would do that, but I just wanted to Point out that the Poles have a reason to want it and a reason to not do it.

I personally would enjoy having back 20's borders,then everyone gets something they want and disputed areas could be administrated corparetively.

This is the perfect Yurop.
Królewiec is Polish

>putting Norway/Denmark in with Sweden

>Nope,just no, Ukraine is a fake Country created by Austro-German Expansionists who had an interest in weaking and avoiding Russia.
THANK YOU. And at the same time, they weakened Poland spiritually, in the sense of making the restoring Crown Poland much harder by dividing Poles, Polish-Ruthenians and Ruthenians amongst each other by pushing this new Ukrainian identity on the indifferent peasants of Galicia.
youtube.com/watch?v=8YUabqlxuPo

And lets not forget what originally Ukraine was and meant. It was a general name for the region east of Podolia.
>Ukraina = U+kresu+krainy = U+krancu+krainy Korony Królestwa Polskiego, Rzeczypospolitej Obojga Narodów (Pol-Lit)
>Ukraine = At+the+borderland = At+the+end of the Crown of the Kingdom of Poland, Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth

Polish people are pussies. If you have ever read the Polish history, you would understand that Polish was everyones bitch in history. They got multiples times raped by Russian. After Russian fucked Polish. Thirsty German dudes came to finish off whatever was left of Poland and raped them as well. Nowadays they just sucking Europe titties dry.

Well, originally Poland was supposed to have Królewiec and Lwów as pic rel. Even Churchill promised that, but Poland got fucked over in the end, and multiple times thereafter by Stalin. Stalin disliked Poland and Poles.

>Why doesn't Poland annex it?
It will be extremely painful

EAST PRUSSIA IS GERMAN CLAY

You're a big country...

For EU

>Why doesn't Poland annex it?
I dunno maybe because we don't want to start a war that we can't win?

>hohols removed polacks
>Ukraine can easily beat Poland
>Poland is never getting those areas back
>Not Anti-Polish
Try me bitch, it is not the truth.

An Analysis(Oh man it is nice to act Autistic these days):
Poland has 40 Million inhabitants,Ukraine too.

Poland has much more societal unity and many People ready to fight,economy and public would be ready for war and many could serve and already many want to, look at paramilitary Units and Polish Military itself,discipline,fighting Moral,training frquency is high,preparedness is above average.

Ukraine has a Population of either Anti-Ukranian or Ukraine-Sceptic Russians and most of the youth are Hipsters or demoralised and unuseful, they had to recruit Hungarians from Carpathia in 2015/16 and the Nationalists and Lefties who all want Independence and participated in Maidan Punch each other because they are either Nazi-fanatics with a big mouth or Bisexual Hippies.

The Military (Who was trained partially in your Country) had a stalemate with Russian Rebells and still didn't conquer them after 3 years.

The Poles got free Access to Baltic,the Ukranians to the Black Sea, Poles have superior German Tankery and Infantry equippment,combined with durable selfmade stuff and some Post-Soviet equippment upgraded to NATO-Standard.

The Ukranians just have their shitty Post-Soviet gear which they hardly can resupply and some NATO weoponry to small in numbers to be effective.

Polish Airforce is mediocre,never heard of Ukrainian success with bomber Support.

The Ukranians can't use their potential in workforce and ressources, they Need Support from Russia and the USA,China and Germany to sustain themselves, Poles have good Chemical and Automobile industry and are able to sustain themselves,Ukraines only Chance is a war of Attrition for the Poles burning all they have, using Soviet style brutal force to get conscripts and using the vast and partially defendable land to superiority.90% Oil and Gas=Russian

>Why doesn't Poland annex it?
Only 500 nuclear bombs are needed to wipe poland and Poles off the map.

kek

Hey Ivan, what was up with the knife attack in siberia yesterday?

Was it a sandnigger or was it just a drunk russki?

Prussia doesn't exist and soon Germany won't either. Quit larping you cringy fuck.

Besides, IF Poland would ever try to take back its eastern clay, it would be in cooperation with the others who lost their clay to Ukraine as well.

Because there's nothing there. Ruskies leveled the cities and replaced them with commie architecture. Also we never really wanted it, it never was a part of "core" Poland so we don't have any sentiment for it. Too bad Ruskie took it after the war, but it can't really be helped.

Also this Also it's one of richest parts of Russia, and a lot of tourists from there visit Poland, leaving their money there.

And yeah, we don't really want a war with Russia, we're not in dispute about any territory whatsoever, we just don't like them purely for historical reasons. I must admit that one good thing Stalin did for us was setting the borders in a way that noone can make a valid claim on any part of our territory for whatever reason, so we can be on good or at least neutral terms with our neighbours now.

And no, we don't want our eastern territories either, communism and war pretty much destroyed most of the historical legacy, and there are barely any poles living there anyway (and they can get polish citizenship and move to Poland very easily if they only want to );

>Ukraine can easily beat Poland in a 1 on 1 fight without allies or foreign intervention
Wew lad. They don't even have ammunition that can destroy our leos and their air force is a joke even bigger than ours.

I like you, Poland.

>And no, we don't want our eastern territories either, communism and war pretty much destroyed most of the historical legacy,
No it did not.

They speak basically the same language, only icelandic is sufficiently different. Idk why Norweigen and Danish are even considered different languages, they are exactly alike.

Ukraina means "Borderland",Borderland between Russians and Poles, everybody should know that.

Yes,there are many names for that Region and it's surroundings
Podolia,Galicia,Red Ruthenia,Lodomeria etc., at last it is Polish land, I would only bother about rights and power of the Russian Population really.

Stalin disliked Poles,which lays on the fact that he was part of the guys who repelled them in 1920,luckily the Miracle at the Vistula happened.

Churchill backstabbed the Poles hard,the war began there and the Poles at least should have kept there Eastern territories,

Ukraine was always used by powers having an interest on keeping that Region free from Russia and in their alliance, the Central Powers in 1917,the Poles in 1920,the Americans in 2014.

Monarchy is a religious system. To have a monarchy you would need at least 75% catholics in every social sphere, not just rural retards. Basically if you lose common religion, you're destined for inner friction and sometimes even civil war, only look at Spain or Portugal

>cant beat donetsk freedom fighters
>expects to beat poland
хaхaхaхa хopoшo

Which are:
Hungary
Romania
Russia
And even the Khazarian Jews, yup a full loss for them

>Ukraine was always used by powers
Ukrainian identity was pushed on the peasantry of Galicia after the partitions of Poland by the Austrians (Germans), later the Prussians (Germans) took the relay stick during WW1. You could say that Ukraine is partly a German creation to weaken Poland, and at the same time the Poles, so it's only natural for the Ukrainians to be pro German like during WW2 with OUN, Bandera, SS Galizien etc. etc. Germany and Ukraine are natural allies and thus were and will be natural enemies of Poland. You Polish btw?

>weaken Poland
*weaken Russia

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Yes it did. Sure Lwów somewhat survived, but truly historical legacy like graveyard, manors, palaces got REKT. That's where the heart and roots of nation really are.Even the Lwów cemetery got mostly demolished and only after USSR fell it got somewhat renovated - only to some extent because the bandera hohols keep blocking any realy initiative to renovate it.

No I am not Polish at all, I just like you,your Nation and People much, I would only Support Ukranian Independence if we had a Hitler again who wanted to do a new Ostplan without murdering Polonians and Rus.

I do not even want our former Eastern lands back from you now, it is enough if you would give us back Stettin so we finally have a real Oder-Neiße Grenze.

It's not like smart politicians couldn't find a good opportunity for Expansion in Western Europe,for example:
Integrating Benelux and Alpine States into Germany.

I think the best solution for Eastern Europe is an alliance between Germans,Poles and Russians.

Friedrich Barbarossa could live with this border for some years and had good help from and gave some to Poles, it can be redone.

Cheers.

>but truly historical legacy like graveyard, manors, palaces got REKT.
That's not true.
>.Even the Lwów cemetery got mostly demolished and only after USSR fell it got somewhat renovated
Not not the Lyczakowski one, you mean the Lwow Eaglets mausoleum, but that's no shocker, but it got mostly restored now. The is so much Polish stuff in Ukraine it's not even funny, and what's more irritating, they claim and see it as their culture.

>it is enough if you would give us back Stettin so we finally have a real Oder-Neiße Grenze.
Well, Stettin desu is the most German and least Polish of any major city in Poland, even if it was Polish for its first hundreds years of history and maybe majority Slavic for around 400 years after 1000 and the Griffyn dynasty being Slavs as well. With Vratislav/Wroclaw/Breslau is a different matter tho.
>Friedrich Barbarossa could live with this border for some years and had good help from and gave some to Poles, it can be redone
Yeah, generally Poland had quite good relations with the HRE, except in the 900's, but other than that quite peaceful, except when the Teutons were invited and later Prussia fucked everything.

If I could choose owner of this land it would go to Lithuania,
because I don't want Russian minority in my country and then some green people
and it could appease Lithuanians, so they wouldn't be so deep in their despair

>and it could appease Lithuanians,
Why the fuck do you give a fuck about a 2 million strong city aka state?