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American civil war hype.
Discussion about the new civil war.
Make predictions and shit.

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>THREAD THEME
youtu.be/XMXgHfHxKVM

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I think that using a state map for this, like it was the first civil war, is misleading.
I have a feeling that each state will have it's own mini-civil war as the two side vie for control.

Reminder: The only people pushing for civil war on this board are either globalist shills, kikes or indoctrinated retards who are unaware they are pushing a globalist kike agenda. Civil war and unrest in America is the wet dream of groups like ADL, AIPAC, The Hasbara, JIDF, Israel, Soros’ Open Society or some other filthy and dirty zionist organization that pays dumb niggers to shill here.

They are pushing for step 3 Crisis.

1. Demoralization
2. Destabilization
3. Crisis
4. Normalization

"Redpilled" people screaming for RACE WAR NOW are just as dumb as socialistic liberal retards. Without Law & Order we would be crumbling into a war torn shit hole and vulnerable to regime shifts. If we actually had a civil war we could be attacked by foreign countries, we could lose many of our rights, and many people could die pointless deaths.

Nobody wants a civil war but people who seek to destroy America. Deescalation and diplomacy are what you should be supporting. The far left is pushing to shut down diplomacy, escalate the situation and create a conflict. A conflict without discussion and diplomacy will only lead to violence.

BLM, Antifa, BAMN, Charlottesville psyop, etc... are attempts at inciting a crisis. So far tension is building and people are becoming more and more radical and unreasonable. These are funded organized movements with the goal of growing into something that takes on a life of it's own.

>Fight TPTB, not each other like a bunch of niggers.
>Fight TPTB, not each other like a bunch of niggers.
>Fight TPTB, not each other like a bunch of niggers.
>Fight TPTB, not each other like a bunch of niggers

Could be like that. Although many of the liberals who will fight will move to California probably

There isn't going to be a civil war, balkanization is not possible. Keep up the LARP though!

This right here - we all joke that a Civil War would end in immediate victory for the right. This is because we're still fighting the civil war that we want to fight, one reminiscent of The War Between the States. This is a dangerous line of thinking.
Our enemies are many things, but "dumb" isn't one of them - they will not start a war unless they believe they can gain from it. This is crucial, it means that the terms of the conflict, the sides, scale, and progression will be picked by them. They will account for all possible resolutions, this could mean that even a "victory" for the right in America could still further their aims in some other theater.
The only way to win is to reject the premise - do not play their game! This doesn't mean do nothing, to the contrary, it means that we *must* do something, but our course of action must come out of left field - the only way to defeat an all-seeing enemy is to be unpredictable. Randomness and chaos are their achilles heel and happen to be exactly what this board specializes in.

well that's the most retarded thing i ever did see

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>>Fight TPTB, not each other like a bunch of niggers.
Problem is I can only see "each other" and they're going to be the ones trying to steal my food, shoes, winter coat, and my bullets. What do?

Open your eyes.

I doubt a full on civil war will start. I suspect there will be full blown street fighting at a rally or protest somewhere in the future. More than a communist getting rammed by a car. The indoctrination will build up, the dehumanization of conservatives/republicans/alt-right/anyone who disagrees and the normalization of violence (it's ok to punch "nazi's" now) will lead to a anarchist attempted insurection in a couple large cities. We'll see what happens then.

bump

Oregon may be liberal but we have a lot of gun owners.

>Make predictions and shit.
Balkanization.

Whites will gravitate to the Pacific Northwest for it being Whiter and the pro-White groups there that intend to make the area a new, White nation.

Balkanization won't happen thx to pan Americanism

If a civil war starts, there won't be neatly divided lines like that. It will be rural vs urban. Urban Cali would never go along with San Fagcisco and LA and Austin would never go along with rural Texas.

>Balkanization won't happen thx to pan Americanism
Balkanizastion will happen thanks to economic collapse (government has virtually assured that) and racial strife.

Races naturally gravitate to their own. When Whites see that there are pro-Whites who care for them and will fight for them in the PNW, you'll see immigration to the Whiter areas.

blue = nationalist militias/us army remnants
red = socialist people's army
green = spics/mexican occupation
brown = nigger uprising, expect lots of mass killings between blacks and whites

alaska and hawaii are independent

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It's nice seeing one of these maps actually splitting illinois, you could split it a lot higher actually.

>muh Texas is turning into Mexico meme
We've literally voted for right-wing during the previous election, although this current one was an outlier. The state voted for Ted Cruz but settled with Trump. Go blow yourself up Muhammad.

doesn't matter it's getting browner every year and the spics there will side with their co ethnics in new mexico and socal

As a Masshole do i then become a freedom fighter?
Do i need to get a beret?

West coast becomes a country and battles Texas for control of Arizona. At the end Arizona And New Mexico becomes the new Neutral Country of AZTLAN....

>No holy republic of deseret

Shit map

just in time inventory means no Civil War 2.0

It's only a matter of time.

Red vs blue.
Blue being mostly urban, red being mostly rural.

Blue areas completely surrounded with not enough food grown locally to survive a barricade. Super markets empty within a day, starvation and rioting break out. Surrender within 2 weeks without a shot fired.

>Monroe county
>Socialist party army
Will never happen. The rednecks here are too well armed and would push out the migrants from NY and NJ in a heartbeat.
I just came back from a flee market and half of the people were selling army helmets, uniforms and arms.

>colorado
>blue
They're too far gone. Definitely swinging to UWU.

you forgot the part where the country fractures along racial lines

There are very few places where the majority population is anything but white. Those places are usually neighborhoods within cities, not entire counties.

there are plenty of majority black cities where blacks would rise up. even a city like cleveland with 53% of the population being black, without law and order the blacks could run wild and massacre unprepared whites

plenty of places in the southwest are already majority spic and other parts aren't far off. with the backing of the mexican military they could take a sizeable chunk out of the usa and reinforce themselves with equipment and volunteer fighters from mexico like in what happened eastern ukraine

And don't forget, even White areas are cucked against "hate"

The police of a White city would let their small darkie population rape and rob to their heart's content if it avoided them being called "racist"

Especially during a collapse where their paychecks aren't a guarantee.

I would consider blacks attacking people within their neighborhoods to be TNB, not warfare.

I can't see the mexican government sending troops against america. Maybe the drug cartels would.

>Idaho
>At all socialist army
This is a retarded picture. Bonner's would single handedly destroy any overflow that got past eastern oregon and all the commies in Washington would get in a gunfight with nogs in spokane

LARPer red necks try to start shit and get put down by the military

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>LARP

you can call it gorilla warfare
if they received aid from china and have nationalists fighting on several fronts they could make some gains

>Majority of the military not siding with those rednecks.
Whatever makes you sleep at night.

It's literally a minority white state Pedjro, your illegals not being able to vote doesn't mean they won't be able to fight in the civil war.

All the money on Earth won't train you for a spontaneous civil war

>The Shittiest parts are America
End this meme.

Nonsense.

During hurricane Katrina it was open season on Dindus.

White communities banded together to police their own neighborhoods.

Lots of dead dindus. Lots.

I was there, AMA.

>nigger uprising doesn't include Philadelphia

more right-wing not "for right wing"

I am am allowed to add further.

Our numbers and strength of political devotion are not sufficiently high enough to have real chances in a possible civil war.

Face it, right wing ideas are severely in the minority. We shall have to win more time, and maintain the state at the current level of conflict, in order to ensure increased red-pilling of normies, and acquire more time for the Right to rise.

Furthermore, additional time also strengthens both Russia and China, by allowing them the chance to develop militarily.

The more time, the better for us, as we are on the offensive, and the left is on the regressive.
If a conflict started now, we shall have to fight with our current resources, which are chronically insufficient.

it's possible that nationalists could've put extra work into retaking it in order to secure a port on the east coast

>socialist people's army
>colorado
Not going to happen. All the leftists would flee back to California. Once you leave the Denver Metro Area, it's pretty red. It' s only the leftist diaspora that changed it

>Worker's Union
>led by people who refuse to work and just pretend to be anarchists all day
Kek

>White communities banded together to police their own neighborhoods.
Not for the purpose of protecting their race but for protecting their stuff.

Upstate NY is full of red necks outside the cities, I don't think it'd be all socialist.

>top brass and majority of troops siding with any rebel movement and not putting it down with indiscriminate force
Keep on LARPing

again, this is land captured after years of fighting

Nationalist vs Socialist. Country vs City. Country wins by surrounding the cities and starving the Socialists to death.

R8 me m8s, I feel that this would be a more realistic scenario. The EU, China, and India would back the separatist and Russia and Japan would back the US.

Blue = USA
Yellow = Martial La
Red = Separatist or Commies

>colorado, texas, louisiana
>yellow
>martial law
Please explain your rationale

>Russia and China not on the same side
Deluded

>maybe if i scream LARP enough, people won't realize I don't actually have an argument against them?
You've overused that term. It has no meaning or affect now. Might as well call us racists for the good it will do.

Also assuming no outside power comes in

>Realistic scenario.
>Utah and Alaska joined the red.
>Utah state government has said they will help fund any effort to kick California out of the Union because they hate them so much.

>Antifa designated domestic terrorist orginization
>MSM propaganda machine spins it as Trump silencing the left
>Media fueled political violence sparks riots across the nation's metropolitan areas
>Not enough police
>Ferguson 2.0, for days, across entire nation
>Multiple state wide state of emergencies declared
>Article One Section Nine Clause 2 is invoked
>Useful idiots of the left and the right rounded up and detained in FEMA camps
>Only true-blooded patriots who don't give a fuck about commie and nazi larps left in society
>mfw

I think in a situation like that, there'd be Martial Law in each state in the nigger belt. The nogs would constantly be killing and looting if there wasn't.

You seriously need to understand that all police departments don't operate the same exact way.

Dude a third of those states are rust belt states, people work really hard up there. And in new england a lot of the whites are descended from puritans, who are known for their work ethic.

The separatist would want to expand as much east as possible, but not make it into Colorado. Texas has a large Hispanic population that becoming bigger by the year. and Louisiana as too many didndus.

>The EU, China, and India would back the separatist and Russia and Japan would back the US.
You are actually mentally slow

usnews.com/news/best-states/utah/articles/2017-08-04/utah-gop-lawmaker-endorses-california-secession-movement

This is why Utah would never join California in any balkanization scenario.

>You seriously need to understand that all police departments don't operate the same exact way.
Until I see otherwise, I'll expect all police departments give rioting darkies a wide berth. Especially during a civil/economic collapse.

Ah, okay.
>louisiana as too many didndus
Mississippi has more. If you are going based off of that, I would argue that LA, MS, and AL would also be yellow

China and Russia are only partners now because they have too, as soon as shit hit the fan, they will fight each other.

Make sense.

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Blue areas have capital and ports, could import food, arms, and foreign fighters.

>Florida
>Commies
Even the Cubans would help us and the hicks purge any commies trying to claim the state. Them panhandle boys don't play around neither.

>denver
>port
If things started to hit the fan, the California diaspora would go back, and most of the "blue" states would revert to being red again.

>American Military killing fellow Americans
Though I think from your attitude you don't really consider Red America your 'countrymen'. Would you bomb them if they decided to leave? I wouldn't bomb Blue America if they decided to divorce from the Union.

>as soon as shit hit the fan, and the USA is taken care of, they will fight each other.
> ftfy

Based mormons.

I was principally considering the Bay Area, NYC, DC areas. Also if this garners the involvement of other states and (((nonstate actors))) money would flood into the Blue cities.

>Balkanization
THIS
It's the only way we can all be happy and all live in peace.
We cannot continue to exist as one nation when everyone is tearing each other apart constantly.
And the faggot feds in D.C. are not giving us any solutions.

America is in a bad relationship. It's time to break up and move on.

My rendition

There are also smaller guerrilla groups everywhere, like black separatists in the south and rural militias in the north

Who are they going to buy food from? The people in the midwest, that they are at war against? And send it through the other red states that have set up blockades?

Nah, they will have to eat their money.

>i was principally considering the bay area, nyc, dc areas
You know, on reflection, that makes sense. I apologize for my ineptitude.

>American workers union
fuck off commie scum, actual workers hate you fuckers

Not true. Lines would quickly be drawn by race, and there are currently more whites than any other race in the US. Mexicans would create treaties with whites, as would asians. Whites would need to worry about traitorous lefty whites trying to sell out. Blacks would also need to worry about the same thing. Read Thomas Chittum.

And that's why I support the Northwest Front for the survival of the White race.


Northwest Front
pastebin.com/Vr6jhEW5

>florida
>red

BTW red would clearly win this. Blue has less people, less tactically useful positions and can be easily blockaded

you'd be better going to a white majority red state
they'd be much less trained and equipped

you're forgetting the fact that high-density, very wealthy cities could field more fighters with better tech and overwhelm rural communities by force.

10000 city boys vs 500 farm guys = farm guys giving food for city boys

But, placing all your hopes on one fictitious state is unwise.
Promote the ideas that can lead to such things, not some ethnostate wetdream fantasy.

>you'd be better going to a white majority red state
There's legitimate reasons as to why the Pacific Northwest was chosen. All explained in the pastebin.

Here is the actual winner. The people with the money have complete control over the army and they have complete control over Donald trump. They will slaughter anyone who would dare to mess with the US/global economy, no matter if they are on the right or the left.

i'm not reading all that shit, give me the short version

Admittedly im ignorant of the food market but couldnt the Blue ports just import food?

The day of the rope is coming

RaHoWa

MASSIVE NIGGERDEATH

>i'm not reading all that shit, give me the short version
History of the pro-White movement there.
Geographical location/makeup of the area.
Racial composition of the area.
the butler plan originated there.

That's the short version. You want more details, you're going to have to do some more research.

>History of the pro-White movement there.
meaningless
>Geographical location/makeup of the area.
wedged between spics and canada, i guess a pacific port is useful with east asia becoming the centre of global trade, i'll give you that
>Racial composition of the area.
much less white than the midwest or new england
>the butler plan originated there.
again, meaningless
>That's the short version. You want more details, you're going to have to do some more research.
you're supposed to be selling me this idea and so far the midwest is looking like a safer bet

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