Why are so many people here hostile against communism...

Why are so many people here hostile against communism, it only wants to be able to let the individual work freely according to his abilities without having any capital owner taking advantage of his hard labour.

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I don't want you to melt my spoons and feed me glass.

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>individuality in communism
what did he mean by this?

how is that a good thing

>it only wants to be able to let the individual work freely according to his abilities without having any capital owner taking advantage of his hard labour.

Shut the fuck up retarded faggot

Do you plan on working a shit job for $15 an hour your whole life?

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i would ejaculate in her communist manifesto

It is not sufficient just to criticise Political Correctness. It tolerates a certain amount of
criticism, even gentle mocking. It does so through no genuine tolerance for other points
of view, but in order to disarm its opponents, to let itself seem less menacing than it is.
The cultural Marxists do not yet have total power, and they are too wise to appear
totalitarian until their victory is assured.

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Fuck off marxist vermin.

In the long run, the most direct method of defeating the inquisitors of political
correctness is simply to stand up to them. Individual acts of defiance often entail serious
risks: students can face star-chamber proceedings that are humiliating and demoralising
while faculty can lose their bids to receive tenure. But every act of resistance causes a
ripple, encouraging others to stand up to ideological intimidation.

I'd seize her means of reproduction if you know what I mean

Because only a retard that doesn't understand business and economics supports it. Capitalist are not bad. We need someone to take risk and accept losses.

Because, like National Socialism it's gayer than a three dollar bill. Only fags follow radical politics.

>her

GTFO commie scum

DO NOT FALL FOR THE PORCELAIN JEW

>Communism moves all profits and control of assets to the government
>The government is making money from the workers, all the while paying them equally
>Somehow this isn't corporatism disguised as "communism"
Okay, Rockefeller

>seize her means of reproduction
like castrating every Marxist male and hang every female Marxist. Yep lets do that

Everyone is able to work freely according to his abilities without any need for communism.
But if they need some equipment or materials for their work that they do not own themselves they can enter into voluntary agreement with the owner or take these by force. The first is free market, the second is communism.

Who is that guy in ops pic and what did he do?

Jess is a leftist you know, unlike her close minded sister

Because utopian ideologies require some kind of authority to enforce, which means you just made a group that must be above the people and not answerable to them. Without that group, leaving all the power to the people, you just end up with most telling you to fuck off when you try to take what's theirs.

1. Pragmatism and realism > idealism
2. Historically it has never worked
3. Trading and private property are fundamentally ingrained in peoples' minds and it's unreasonable and unrealistic to expect people to give these things up
4. Force must be used to get people to go along with the ridiculous ideas of communism. It is inherently fascistic.

you want to enslave me and steal my shit

It's social programming showing ,op.

I have no problem with people buying land and setting up a commune, like what happen in the 60's. It might actually be feasible since many modern communists have rich baby boomer parents. Its the seizing the means of production and creating a hostile, Orwellian state that's bad.

Yeah, you still have to pay taxes to maintain a decent amount of public infrastructure. There isn't really a way around that.

No thanks, I like eating food

But what if that authority enforced what only made sense? Akin the the levels of freedom you have now

Oh my god, you're literally retarded. Why are you not killing yourself right now?

Communism is a failure not only in practice but in theory. Taking away access to individual success by spreading out all of your achievements into the lives of those who didn't do the work kills creativity and drive. You'll understand when you turn 23.

nigger plz

Even though I am very austere I like to own the few things that I've got.

Secondly, if you give the means of production to the state, who's going to rule? Is it going to be a good person? Because, according to most communists, there hasn't been any true communism because there hasn't been good communist leaders so... Whos is it gonna be this time? Is it going to be the flip of a coin with a chance to have yet another tyrant that will starve its people to death? Or do you have the right candidate somewhere? Can we meet him alredy?

Explain to me how communism works long term without it going to shit.

READ (at least the first chapter) of the book of St. Anders Breivik

publicintelligence.net/anders-behring-breiviks-complete-manifesto-2083-a-european-declaration-of-independence/

Because I grew up in a Communist shit hole and earned a degree from a Marxist university. I'm not some idiot middle class white liberal who thinks Communism is cool. I LIVED IT. We couldn't buy meat, all the vegetables were old, and fresh fruit was extremely rare....on a tropical island. Similarly, even though we are on a fucking ISLAND, there is no seafood because we couldn't afford gas for the fishing fleet, which has been docked since the 1990s. Any group more than ten people needs government permission to meet. Revoutionary council's are on every street and you need their permission to do anything substantial. Meanwhile despite the President's talk about anti-imperialism, the Amerkcans own a slice of our island and the government doesn't even protest. The whole system is a fucking joke. You have no idea how ghastly Communist countries can be. When you walk the streets, and it looks like a fucking warzone, and doctors/engineers make $30/month while criminals live like kings, and you have no opportunity........YOU FUCKING IDIOTS PISS ME OFF.

>Why
Maybe all the millions of abused, exploited people who died in poverty because of it

>lmao fpbp
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I would embrace Stalin for her if she were my qt gf.
By denying pussy from us the alt-left is just radicalizing us even more.

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This. Look, if a system has failed every time it's been tried, don't you think it's fundamentally flawed? I mean, I can understand someone being a communist in an ironic sense (I often call myself a libertarian to be ironic myself) but at the end of the day, we have to do what's correct, and communism is a failed solution. UBI will solve everything though, so all of you shut the fuck up already. You'll get your gibs in the end.

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Get out

idk but that pic of the commie whore you posted. id rape and cum in all of her holes. dont givea fuck how young she is. ill fuck her untilshe talks stupid

Prove it

Neck yourself prick.

>it only wants to be able to let the individual work freely according to his abilities

I am already doing that

>without having any capital owner taking advantage of his hard labour

And I am getting paid for my hard labor.

You promise same shit but in way worse conditions

Stop using Ulyana for your fucking bait and shitposting, you nigger jew.

it is a boy.

your lies don't work

The parallels between the old, economic Marxism and cultural Marxism are evident.
Cultural Marxism, or Political Correctness, shares with classical Marxism the vision of a
“classless society,” i.e., a society not merely of equal opportunity, but equal condition.
Since that vision contradicts human nature – because people are different, they end up
unequal, regardless of the starting point – society will not accord with it unless forced.
So, under both variants of Marxism, it is forced. This is the first major parallel between
classical and cultural Marxism: both are totalitarian ideologies. The totalitarian nature of
Political Correctness can be seen on campuses where “PC” has taken over the college:
freedom of speech, of the press, and even of thought are all eliminated.

The second major parallel is that both classical, economic Marxism and cultural Marxism
have single-factor explanations of history. Classical Marxism argues that all of history
was determined by ownership of the means of production. Cultural Marxism says that
history is wholly explained by which groups – defined by sex, race, religion and sexual
normality or abnormality – have power over which other groups.

The third parallel is that both varieties of Marxism declare certain groups virtuous and
others evil a priori, that is, without regard for the actual behaviour of individuals.
Classical Marxism defines workers and peasants as virtuous and the bourgeoisie (the
middle class) and other owners of capital as evil. Cultural Marxism defines all minorities,
what they see as the victims; Muslims, Feminist women, homosexuals and some
additional minority groups as virtuous and they view ethnic Christian European men as
evil. (Cultural Marxism does not recognise the existence of non-Feminist women, and
defines Muslims, Asians and Africans who reject Political Correctness as evil, just like
native Christian or even atheist Europeans

I wish that were the case, but I don't want to be killed because I'm suspected to want to own my own land or something like that, men want to be free - communism isn't the way fowards - the Venus Project is closer to what I'd want

good post

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Because if you simply look at both the death toll in the 20th century, Communism is second only to Ideology with 94 million dead. If you look into the last ten former and current Communist countries, you would also see nothing but famine, civil war, dictatorship, or some combination of the three.

It just doesn't work as well as Capitalism.

>leftyfaggot spam

sage

Are you light in the head?

This is already what happens you idiot.
Nobody is forcing you to go to work in the US.
In the real world, you enter into a contract with your employer. He says I have this work, I can pay you this for this work. You say ok or fuck that I can do better.
Communism actually forces you to do work that you don't want to do.

1. Communism in practice has never been this, but a bunch of corrupt governments controlling the economy for their benefit. This has led to genocide, famine, and despair in many of the countries it has been practiced in.
2. Communism removes the culture of a nation in order to create a global system that is completely alien to what they are used to. Such a drastic change would never be supported by the majority of the people and will lead to the next topic.
3. Every communist society has been heavily authoritarian in implementing their ideology. Every dissenter is removed, every person who goes against the grain is removed. There is no personal freedom, and in today's individualized world, it is much harder to get people collectively come together, throw away their individuality, and act as a hive like Marx calls for.
4. Most people realize it cannot happen until we reach a point where resources are no longer a scarce commodity. To each according to his ability, to each according to his need is a great slogan, but it doesn't work when there aren't enough resources for everyone to have what will truly make them happy. Being the same as everyone else will not make them happy either, especially today where everyone has to stand out and be different from the mold. You're never going to get people to agree to that.
5. People are inherently greedy and selfish. It is human nature. You can meme it all you want, you make fun of it all you want, but it doesn't make it false. They'll talk the talk about equality, love, and peace, but when directly interferes with their well-being, that all flies out the window.

Because the individual is retarded

That's a bloke. Sorry user.

Most people here love the economic parts of communism, but they don't like the internationalism and they can't get laid so they dislike social leftism.

When addressing the general public, advocates of Political Correctness – or cultural
Marxism, to give it its true name – present their beliefs attractively. It’s all just a matter
of being “sensitive” to other people, they say. They use words such as “tolerance” and
“diversity,” asking, “Why can’t we all just get along?”

The reality is different. Political Correctness is not at all about “being nice,” unless one
thinks gulags are nice places. Political Correctness is Marxism, with all that implies: loss
of freedom of expression, thought control, inversion of the traditional social order, and,
ultimately, a totalitarian state. If anything, the cultural Marxism created by the Frankfurt
School is more horrifying than the old, economic Marxism that ruined Russia. At least the
economic Marxists did not exalt sexual perversion and attempt to create a matriarchy, as
the Frankfurt School and its descendants have done.

This short essay has sought to show one critical linkage, that between classical Marxism
and the ingredients of the “cultural revolution” that broke out in Western Europe in the
1960s. Of course, the action does not stop in the ‘60s; the workings of the Frankfurt
School are yet very much with us, especially in the field of education. That topic, and
other present-day effects of Frankfurt School thinking, will be further analysed.

>publicintelligence.net/anders-behring-breiviks-complete-manifesto-2083-a-european-declaration-of-independence/

Communism was never reached. For all we know every applied Marxist ideology never got it right. We need to write a new and better one.

Go on her Instagram and twitter.

Quick question, why do commies always bang on about seizing the means of production? Can't they create their own?

>The reality is different. Political Correctness is not at all about “being nice,” unless one
>thinks gulags are nice places. Political Correctness is Marxism, with all that implies: loss
>of freedom of expression, thought control, inversion of the traditional social order, and,
>ultimately, a totalitarian state

Its about who owns capital. Seizing it for the people.

>Why are so many people here hostile against communism

Because they've studied history. Go wear your commie shirt in a former USSR country, tell me how it goes.

what's her twitter handle?

Do yourself a favour and actually read into Marxism and Communism. Wikipedia will do

It's jewish.

However, the Red Army was defeated by Polish forces at the battle of the Vistula in 1920.
The Spartacist, Bavarian Soviet and Bela Kun governments all failed to gain widespread
support from the workers and after a brief time they were all overthrown. These events
created a quandary for the Marxist revolutionaries in Europe. Under Marxist economic
theory, the oppressed workers were supposed to be the beneficiaries of a social
revolution that would place them on top of the power structure. When these
revolutionary opportunities presented themselves, however, the workers did not respond.
The Marxist revolutionaries did not blame their theory for these failures. They blamed the
workers.

Marxism is a philosophy. Marxist-leninism is the political ideology. Being a communist doesn't mean you have to support every single political interpretation of Marx.

Fuck off western larper

Nigger, if you follow marxism I don't consider you a human
>t.political science major who actually read marx and his cultural bastards reads Gramsci, Marcuse, Adorno, Lukasc...

>Why are so many people here hostile against communism
it probably might have to do with the +100 million deaths it has caused

>Why are so many people here hostile against communism, it only wants to be able to let the individual work freely according to his abilities without having any capital owner taking advantage of his hard labour.
What? No, in Communism all people are forced, under threat of execution, to work to their limits according to their capabilities and then all wealth is redistributed between everyone according to their needs. Which means every able bodied person is overworked and then taxed like 98% of all their earnings from hard labour are given to the ill, the addicts, etc. The value of each hour of work is determined by a ruling class called the Proletariat Party, that unilaterally decides how everyone should be working. Needless to say that, to join the workers party, you have to be accepted by current members.

How can you seriously vouch for authoritarian dictatorship, wanting to impose it on everyone by force and not be called a retard is beyond me.

Maybe you should read up on Socialism or some other nerfed form of Left-side politics.

we hate starving

Well you surely didn't go into it with an open mind because you clearly didn't understand them.

Even ruskies in Estonia will probably beat them blue.

what about the other billions of deaths that happened in history? What are you going to blame that on?

Haven't the people who participated in the creation of the means of production already been compensated? That's how being a labourer works, you're compensated immediately for your efforts which are part of an investment made by a business owner.

Your way seems like selling a sandwich then stealing it back to sell again.

vice.com/en_uk/article/kw9qae/question-of-the-day-would-you-vote-for-ceausescu

Got told they miss it, and communists were less corrupt and incompetent than what they have now.

It's really only Poland and the Baltics that whine about it, on the account of being reactionary shitholes full of narcissists.

These books are already written and this is not a communism in them. If you try to rewrite communism you will just end with modern Neoclassical economics. All your good ideas already in them.

Because I'm against slavery.

which is fine in theory, but in practice it has literally always resulted in turning means of production over to a highly authoritarian government, and that's a terrible idea there senpai

gommunsim and alt-left is a childish sickness

Former member of the socialist youth. Look, your greatest enemies are not those who oppose you, but those who use your methods against you. I went deeper as you would wish, and I have the doxes of every socialist in my country. Breivik will be a fart against me

Then how come literally every single communist country is an oppressive shit hole? My life right now if far more financially secure than every single communist citizen on the planet while the exception of their crook leaders. Sure capitalists are crooks too but they steal less from me.

Marx was also very ignorant about human nature, some people are naturally bad no matter what situation they're in.

When I lived in Cuba I had nothing. I worked 50-60 hours a week at a bottling plant, and later at a bakery. I made around $15/month. With a degree in Physics. Now I live in the United States. I own my own walnut farm, and it produces about $60,000 a year. This is in addition to the profits from my own import/export company. I have solar power, well water, guns, ATVs, golf cart, two trucks, and a camper. Nobody exploits my labor. When I have children, all this will be passed down to them. In Cuba I wouldn't even be able to have my own business. In Cuba one time I was in a nightclub and some guy came in with a machete and started slashing people, me and my girlfriend escaped. In Cuba I couldn't even carry a knife to defend myself or my family. Now I have a concealed weapons permit and never leave my house unarmed. I am FREE. I am beholden to NO MAN.

So. Explain to me how your political philosophy would improve my life?

Communism, Liberalism, and being a leftist is basically a mental illness.

>ugly finns
>That finnish white knight that consistently defends lauren

Better ask them do people in these countries want to be executed for purchase or possession of american dorrars. Best test about "communism was le good"

Well, maybe we won't dedicate inordinate amount of industry to military production while abstaining from war next time. Whether it's the "military production" or "abstaining from war" part that we won't do is entirely up to the capitalists.

Holding back the years
Thinking of the fear I've had so long
When somebody hears
Listen to the fear that's gone
Strangled by the wishes of pater
Hoping for the arms of mater
Get to me the sooner or later

Holding back the years
Chance for me to escape from all I've known
Holding back the tears
Cause nothing here has grown
I've wasted all my tears
Wasted all those years
And nothing had the chance to be good
Nothing ever could yeah

I'll keep holding on
I'll keep holding on
I'll keep holding on
I'll keep holding on
So tight

I've wasted all my tears
Wasted all of those years
And nothing had the chance to be good
Cause nothing ever could oh yeah

I'll keep holding on
I'll keep holding on
I'll keep holding on
I'll keep holding on
Holding, holding, holding

That's all I have today
It's all I have to say

you should read more. Not just the propaganda, but history. But it doesn't matter, as you have chosen your path, and will share the faith of your ideological brothers

Georg Lukacs was the son a wealthy Hungarian banker. Lukacs began his political life as
an agent of the Communist International. His book History and Class Consciousness
gained him recognition as the leading Marxist theorist since Karl Marx. Lukacs believed
that for a new Marxist culture to emerge, the existing culture must be destroyed. He
said, “I saw the revolutionary destruction of society as the one and only solution to the
cultural contradictions of the epoch,” and, “Such a worldwide overturning of values
cannot take place without the annihilation of the old values and the creation of new ones
by the revolutionaries.”

When he became Deputy Commissar for Culture in the Bolshevik Bela Kun regime in
Hungary in 1919, Lukacs launched what became known as “Cultural Terrorism.” As part
of this terrorism he instituted a radical sex education program in Hungarian schools.
Hungarian children were instructed in free love, sexual intercourse, the archaic nature of
middle-class family codes, the out-datedness of monogamy, and the irrelevance of
religion, which deprives man of all pleasures. Women, too, were called to rebel against
the sexual mores of the time. Lukacs’s campaign of “Cultural Terrorism” was a precursor
to what Political Correctness would later bring to Western European schools.

In 1923, Lukacs and other Marxist intellectuals associated with the Communist Party of
Germany founded the Institute of Social Research at Frankfurt University in Frankfurt,
Germany. The Institute, which became known as the Frankfurt School, was modelled
after the Marx-Engels Institute in Moscow. In 1933, when Nazis came to power in
Germany, the members of the Frankfurt School fled. Most came to the United States.

>Why are people so hostile vs. commies
Literally any justification you offer is just a mask for your delusions of grandeur and desire to impose your malevolent will on reality.

Obviously haven't read the communist manifesto or learned history. Anyone who paid attention in class would know that communism never works. Name one place it worked OP. I'll wait. China doesn't count bc it's freemarket and northern europe is dependent on American funding.

its what makes the green grass grow

>So. Explain to me how your political philosophy would improve my life?
You would have no options but to shout loudly that communist political philosophy actual improved you life. So everyone could see that indeed it improved your life :^). Now we have philosophical question about objectivism and subjectisim and observer role :^)