Germans are obsessed with the U.S. But they’ll deny it

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>When I moved back to Germany a few months ago, I was surprised to find out that even things that nobody seemed to care about in North America made it onto front pages here. When there's a shooting in the U.S., editors in Germany go into breaking news mode, even though the story probably won't ever make it onto most American newscasts.

>Europeans often blame Americans for being obsessed with themselves, so why all the attention in Germany?

>For the Germans, it's a love-hate relationship

>Here's one example: When the New York Times recently wrote a piece about the Berlin district of Wedding, German media went in overdrive, with commentators questioning whether the newspaper was correct in portraying the local district as up-and-coming. But the undertone seemed clear: "Wow, even the U.S. likes Wedding!"

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Germans are a very servile people, they serve anyone they deem better than them.

>ARE YOU OBSSESSED WITH US

>What...? no

>LOL YOURE JUST DENYING IT

theres no winning when people have confirmation bias like this

I've found many Europeans are obsessed with bad news in the US because it makes them feel better about their own political system/policies. Every bad thing that happens in America is the fault of guns and lack of healthcare to the average European. Most often forget how large the population of the US is to the average European country. Canada and New Zealand have a similar mentality.

There is definitely a crazy amount of leftist germans bitching about US politics all day. Gonna read the article now

I honestly am, I´m watching so much Trump News man. I have never seen a more interesting politician in my life, who is even surrounded by strange prophecies and god like theories (time travel Theorie, Bannons Marvelous Underground Adventures, Uncle knows Tesla etc.)

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I feel way more free than you turkroach. Erdogan basically dictates public opinion in Turkey.

Okay I'd say the article is pretty spot on. Except that of course many germans are aware of this and the published opinion shouldnt be confused with the public opinion. At least among my peers we used to sometimes joke about ARD and ZDF being the worlds number one news outlet for US domestic politics.

Germans can't criticize their own government's decision to import kebab so they focus on US media all day

We gotta start importing the white Germans en masse

>cognitive dissonance - the post
Germany is a totalitarian state. Accept it and try to work around it. As long as you ignore the problem, it will only get worse.

Everybody loves america. EVERYBODY. Y'all just too envious to admit it. We have enough cucks here already.

Well for today we have an article on SPON.de stating a massive rise in criminality clearly linked to refugees.

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But yes the notion isnt entirely wrong. However the Belgium isnt any better. Whats going in some parts of Brussel is just worrying and you dont seem to tackle it either. In the US, its getting harder and harder to exercise free speech too. Or to put it in your words; I think you might be projecting.

Were not obsessed, were dictated by the US ever since 1945 and even more so since the wall fell.
Were just an american proxy. Anyone who doesnt know that seriously needs his almonds checked.

They are waiting for the US to get the ball rolling on which side they fall on western civilization.

ofc the gun laws in usa are shit, when the only people using the guns are nigs and gangs.

fuck your freedom when you do nothing with it.

Obsessed 'til it's time to .......
PAY DEBNTS!

>Americans are so accustomed to getting shot that it doesn't even make it in the news anymore

People in Germany are self-righteous rule followers. They are tidy, neat, clean and hard working. Their idea of fun is obnoxious and amounts to beer drinking and eating.
Germany TV is boring and every attempt to make it more like Hollywood is cringe worthy.

However, this "almost perfect" world comes at high price. There is a high pressure to live a mediocre life, do things according to the pre-defined rules and be a good German. Personal wealth is blamed and shamed, although German have almost the highest standard of living in the whole Europe.
There is enormous pressure to buy "green", support "green" industries, be liberal and parrot whatever states says. Hierarchy is everything.
Germans believe in "free" education, high taxes and "free healthcare" and these things have worked well so far. There is no good service industry in Germany, it is extremely bad. German weather is catastrophic.
So when an average German comes to NY or LA they have a cultural shock. People are much more free, it is ok to be rich, it is ok to buy whatever you like, there are beaches, sun and fun, unrestricted consumerism and capitalism.
So if both Germany and USA are cats, Germany is the domesticated cat that never left the apartment while USA would be a wild street smart cat that knows the neighborhood. Both has advantages and disadvantages.

>German (((MSM)))
>in the pocket of the Atlantikbrücke
wähle zwei, it's non stop anti Trump shilling here, that's the "German" obsession with the US

>Germans
>Crazy about american cock

Why does this not surprise me

>Germany is tsundere for America
Adorable

My leftist friends NEVER shut up about Trump, I have a theory that they in fact admir him but are just too cucked to present an individual opinion in their communista echo chambers.

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I noticed this recently a lot. I think it's just the media being out of touch.

Like, the other day Tagesschau.de (the online platform of pretty much the main government-funded news organisation) had an article about Obama's tweet becoming the most popular ever. That was just the latest in a long line of random America "news" that left me scratching my head and thinking "why am I reading this, why did people feel like this is relevant and newsworthy?".

I never mentioned economic freedom which is still pretty good in the USA. USA companies are taxed a lot, yes we know it. There are many other things that constitute freedom, for example 1st amendment. There is no such a thing in Germany and that is a huge issue, much bigger than few percentages of the taxes. Then there is a 2nd amendment, doesn't exist in Germany. USA culture is the dominant culture of the world. The only band outside of Germany that anyone remotely recognizes is Rammstein and maybe few other smaller bands and DJs. USA dictates everything.
I am sure that the pressure to donate to "green causes" reached absurd levels in Germany.
Did I mention the EU? Everything you do has to be approved by EU.
Shall we mention R&D? Almost all new things are coming exclusively from US. 50% of all new drugs and medical devices are discovered in the USA.
The best German people almost as a rule move to US.
Let's be honest, Europe is inferior compared to US and people in Europe know this, therefore the obsession.
Did I mention that almost all post WWII freedom in EU is predicated on strong US military?

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No, they're hysterical.

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The German is either at your feet, or at your throat. -Winston Churchill

I spent a few weeks in Wedding in 2013, it was fine, a lot of roaches looking bored hanging around. What's it like now?

this is classical communism

without clear and actionable policy goals in mind, you only have signalling

often, signs of weakness are signalled instead. the information bands become confusing

for example, strong animals can resist disease, diseases spread among animal populations because the only ones who reproduce are those who survive being infrcted

mates.come to PREFER infected indoviduals. dosease becomes a signal

Germans are obsessed with how they are viewed in the world, and they love to hate on America because haha they are so dumb and fat and now that clown Trump hahahha. When you get news from US here like the Ferguson Riots or Treyvon, it's usually portrayed in the leftist side and to show how backwards and racist the USA still is.

I find that economic freedom is highly underrated by many people, even here. Kind of sad that such a simple concept isn't more widely renowned.

Americans are obsessed with Germany, so.....

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>When there's a shooting in the U.S., editors in Germany go into breaking news mode, even though the story probably won't ever make it onto most American newscasts.

Simply not true and fake news. SAD!!

Germans are useful humanoid automations designed for Anglo-Jewish exploitation. They have a unique combination of traits that make them the single greatest work force in the world: Slightly smarter than the Negro, more honest than Chinamen, harder working than their Slavic brothers.

You can train a German to love their work, like a Husky that cannot wait to pull a sled, and they will do it all day long. I honestly understand how and why communism and socialism were born there -- it's all in the German personality and temperment. When I imagine the German nation I immediately associate it with beehives and ant hills with millions of nearly robotic creatures working as a unified collective for the benefit of their (((Queen))).

The US is pathetic at this point and I don't know what to feel about foreigners who willingly follow us or give a fuck what our talking heads think. I guess they are just as retarded as our leftists, they would have to be. Sorry to hear that.

>it's non stop anti Trump shilling here, that's the "German" obsession with the US
This. Basically every news article about the us atm is about Trump being an absolute idiot and pretending german politicians are so much better.
We are close to the elections here, so anyone is trying to neglect their failures by pointing out Trumps idiocies as much as he can.

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Are you retarded? Normal people defend themselves with guns all the time in the US, even with liberals trying to institute European style gun control laws in the worst places.

>However the Belgium isnt any better.

That's a psychological justification / defense mechanism "my house has rats in it, it doesn't matter because the neighbors' house is a total dump too".

Man up, call your representatives, speak out and fix your shit. Then you can go ahead and fix your neighbors.

If you've never had to yell "I'm gonna shoot every person who makes it through that door" to a pack of 6+ nogs (1 being too much for most of you) trying to break into your home, then it's hard to understand why whitey doesn't want to give up his guns.

But I have.

I was robbed twice at gun point years ago.
Had guns flashed at me in public.
Run in to packs of nogs that tried to threaten and intimidate me, even while at my job.
Been in a dozen fights in high school.
Known many people to be victimized.
Had my next door neighbor shot in a drive by shooting, and multiple other homes hit.

All nogs.

Only had one method out white guy threaten me, ever.
Fortunately he was all talk, because my coworker 15 feet away has his ccw.
So do I, now.
And if I had a picture of the guy, I'd get a dozen responses ala:
>that guy
>white
>pick one

If we wanted every murder to make national news, they'd have to have a channel devoted only to that.
And they'd only get a single minute apiece.

Most germans, yeah.
I like america, aside from the marxist cunts, obviously.

The pathetic thing about this magic 'tweet' from Obama was how clichéd it was... I clicked expecting something at least semi-profound.

All it says was... ' nobody is born a racist' ...wow!
What a tweet! Stop the presses!

And it's scientifically wrong.

Natural xenophobia must be trained out and suppressed.

Same here. Negative news from usa happens all the time. There used to be constant reporting about gun murders and accidents (eg. a child kills himself or another one with a gun) but now the focus is more on Trump.

It is funny when i go against the narrative the German media is portraying. I just need to say: Did you actually listen to what the President was saying, i watched it and he didn't say the things you are talking about. Did you read the EO? I read it and i understand the reasons behind it, you also should read it. And then there is silence...