Arguments against legalization

Does Sup Forums have any decent arguments against legalization of marijuana?

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I live in Canada.. it's too late for me and im surrounded by dog blojobs and faggots

I used to, but I don't anymore. It just needs to be regulated way harder than alcohol or even tobacco

Yes, not everyone becomes lazy on it but a lot of people it becomes their sole purpose in life. When they should be focusing on more important shit

like browsing Sup Forums sober

I don't think there are any, but it remaining illegal is a pretty good non-issue that political parties can use to motivate people who are otherwise politically apathetic.

Because if it isn't it will literally, unironically cause mass paranoid schizophrenia

If it is, it may boost americans' ability at entrepreneurship 10X or more

(Hyperbole)

Meh. I'm not into stuff like alcohol/smoking and other drugs, but I don't see a problem w/ other people killing themselves with whatever drugs they want.
>inb4 "you are implying wee kills"
I was referring to all drugs in general, imo everything should be legal.

That sounds miserable, user. I'd have a stroke.

because narcotics are degenerate. They have people focusing on hedonistic pleasure when they should be seeking better things.

Do you not see any value in having people realise this by themselves and chose such a path out of their own free will?

Winners don't use drugs

>everything should be legal
This, let people decide for themselves to fuck over their lifes

>potheads
>ever realising anything for themselves
the fact is, you're either the sort of person who would use weed or you aren't. The true solution is to stop people from being the first type.

>decriminalization > legalization
If you legalize it the state will ahve his monopoly on it, and trust one weed producing company with it.
prices will skyrocket and people who plant their own weed will be prosecuted even more because now the state has a motivation to protect his taxes which he gathers from the monopolization
legalization is just baiting from leftists to get votes.

>smoke weed
>government finds out
>lets sort you out by throwing you in an extremely hostile environment (jail) where you will probably join a gang and become a lifelong criminal.

Because I don't use it and think it's funny to see people freak out about it. I absolutely hate the culture around pot, and that alone makes me want to see it stay illegal. Logically, there's no reason for it to be illegal for people over 25, and it probably would be made legal if the retards that made a culture around it weren't such bad representatives for it.

Kek. Really good point as a matter of fact. Touche

What's your attitude towards alcohol, user?

If you think weed is degenerate, surely you think alcohol is as well?

I get where you are coming from, I just don't see any worth in a actions that are not driving by your own free will. If such people are not capable of considering such things and decide using drugs is the way to live ones life I wouldn't say forcing them to life one way increases their value - rather it diminishes even further. We might not consider their actions to be worthwhile,but they do stem from their own judgement, so there is at least SOME value to it.

Am I the only one who suspects criminal gangs who make profit off weed / other drugs pay lobbyists to lobby against legalization?

I mean it is a big revenue loss

that would be bad for petrochemical and pharmaceutical businesses

I take it you mean representatives of recreational pot culture. There is a medical doctors culture around marijuana, especially around cannabis extracts

Cannabis isn't destructive enough. People who are going to waste their lives should be encouraged to do it with strong opiates instead. They'll die faster that way.

>don't smoke weed
>don't go to jail

it should be treated as alcohol in my opinion

>suck federal governments intellectually dishonest dick
>be complacent and wilfully ignorant 100% of your life
Nice. Now get the fuck out

/thread

because the government shouldn't control what someone does with their own body when it harms no one else. Also, the government shouldn't attempt to control culture.

It's black and white:

>Anyone against marijuana legalization is a brainwashed, ZOG-cock sucking, narrow-minded child.

>government should punish people voluntarily doing stuff to their own bodies and making damage to no one

Tell me how does it feels to be this cuck

Medical grower here.... Totally against it. Over saturates the market and never provides me with my "recreational" percocet, valium, adderall.. nothin.

Keeping weed illegal makes it easier to throw young niggers in prison before they hurt humans.

>Does Sup Forums have any decent arguments against legalization of marijuana?
It's degenerate.

t. the only non-high Canadian up here in hatlannd

Legalize all drugs for whites, make being black illegal.
Easy.

Other than it's health risks, recreational marijuana creates a large portion of society reliant on this drug for their everyday life. It makes people lazy and causes people to have a poor lack of concentration and memorization.Not to mention, marijuana is the poster symbol of modern Western degeneracy. A lazy and addicted civilization is what (((they))) want. The Jew will control the population with this substance like what the British did in China long ago. Society must not tolerate such substances that turns anything into controlled sheeples.

>It's degenerate.
then don't use it are you may be on such a level of degeneration that you need that state to prohibit you from using it because you can't control yourself

no it's fine. you won't be forced to piff paff that jointerino if you don't wantino.

Yes, representatives of recreational use. I don't care about medicinal uses.

No, but I've got plenty in favor for it. I too hate the "culture" (for lack of a better term) that a lot of obsessive marijuana users build their entire identity around, but part of me hopes that would go away with widespread legalization. However, I am against it being sold exclusively through state dispensaries. It should be treated the same as alcohol and tobacco (in sensible states, that is) and modestly taxed at the state level and allow business owners who sell beer, wine, liquor, and tobacco to legally sell it with proper inventory and book keeping. It would increase business for these establishments, and open up new job markets.

>then don't use it are you may be on such a level of degeneration that you need that state to prohibit you from using it because you can't control yourself
That's not fascism then, which is exactly what this country needs.

You weak bitch.

No. What a fucking twisted view.

Jews own pharma, alcohol and tobacco.

Weed is a threat because it's easily homegrown, therefore no ((($$$$)))) to be made.

Think about it. Jews would be dying laughing seeing posts like yours. Define degenerate. The Bible has a different one.

> It would increase business for these establishments, and open up new job markets.

Putting profit before morals and the well-being of the citizen is crony capitalism at it's finest. Hell, not even, it's just flat out capitalism.

Pretty much no arguments against it other than ridiculous regulations and taxes. Don't but from dispos they spray their shit and sell shit weed grow your own. Also everyone here who is anti weed always gets btfo cannabis is well-studied and it doesn't do anything to what the plastics like bisphenol A have done which is in absolutely everything.

I was for legalisation of drugs until i visited the Netherlands. I never saw so many crackheads and dissabled people(do you guys fuck your sisters or something?). Drugs are pretty redpilled but our culture is to degenerate these days so they should stay illegal.
Tried lsa yesterday, great shit.

Buy*.
Also this weed can be grown quite easily

fascism starts with the strength of the individual.
do some research instead of googling the first wikipedia article and repeat stuff edgy teens on Sup Forums say
In fact you are weak and your weakness will weaken the group.

>legalize it but tax the shit out of it
is the most valid argument i get. Study up on PA's soda tax and see how shitizens will literally ignore everything else and ger up in arms to get their sugary drinks

sounds like a grand plan to me.
it will be harder to get high all the time because of the price.

Then don't get caught

It makes you extremely lethargic and continued use makes you an extremely stupid lazy lethargic individual
>Where's my studies proving that, that's just big tobacco trying to fool you dude
People who smoke weed more than once every week are fucking wastes and it should be illegal because these fags are a plague

Then explain why (((Bernie Sanders))) and (((Democrats))) are rallying for it's legalization? Not to mention, legalizing recreational marijuana would only give the Jews a new market to control. In Colorado, for example, people are only allowed possess 1 ounce of marijuana at a time. You think the (((government))) would continue to allow it's growth?

You really know nothing about weed to have an opinion like this. I have written papers on weed with a lot of time an effrt

>Does Sup Forums have any decent arguments against legalization of marijuana?
it is one of the most important and final steps in the process to destroy western civilisation and ensure that we fall due to degeneracy and decadence

they are making sure now that the popular opinion is in favour of cannabis and once they think the time has come they'll make sure the government legalises it

Oh shit, I'm so sorry Doctor Know-It-All. Would you mind prescribing me Knowledge so I could be more like you?

You should perhaps paste some of your thesis' here so we may attest to your glory

I'll tell you exactlt why:

Every party is (((them))). They all offer a sweet piece of candy with the left hand(weed legalization) and have a hammer in the right(secular socialism).

The Jews can't control a homegrown market or private sales. Legalizing it will take an enormous amount of tension off bad neighborhoods and the beat cops who have to patrol them. At the moment, weed is the same level of crim as heroin. I guarantee you would see a significant drop in the heroin epidemic if they could get their 1st high off weed instead.

Yes, it makes jews look like humans.

I'm trying to be a bit professional about this so we dont look like 2 Nazi assholes who cant even get along.

Weed shrinks tumours, stops seizures, stops many mental disorder side effects, fights cancer in the asophogus, lungs and upper airways, it massively reduces Cortisol(and if you understand cortisol this is significant for EVERYONE), you can drive better on it, it was found in Bruce Lee's autopsy and in Shakespere's pipe.

The reason it was ever made illegal was a guy named Anslinger who was our Attorney General or something, probably a Jew, had a brother-in-law who was a lumbar tycoon and someone just figured out how to make hemp products(which are known to be more efficient than lumber/cotton/plastics in every way, but especially lumber.

> You: "The Jews can't control a homegrown market or private sales"
> Also you: *Nazi Flag*

Listen tripfag, when you can control the government AND the (((UN))), then you sure as hell can make sure that a certain plant isnt being grown. Or even if they cant, or cant to a certain extent, then they'll just genetically modify it to allow marijuana be way below the cost of growing and maintaining it.

Weed produces niggers and redditors. It also makes you gay.

> I'm trying to be a bit professional about this so we dont look like 2 Nazi assholes who cant even get along.

I dont like it when people tell me that I dont know enough about something to have an opinion about it based off of one post, tyvm

> Weed shrinks tumours, stops seizures, stops many mental disorder side effects, fights cancer in the asophogus, lungs and upper airways, it massively reduces Cortisol(and if you understand cortisol this is significant for EVERYONE), you can drive better on it, it was found in Bruce Lee's autopsy and in Shakespere's pipe.

I aint opposed to it's medical use. Recreational is what I have a problem with

> The reason it was ever made illegal was a guy named Anslinger who was our Attorney General or something, probably a Jew, had a brother-in-law who was a lumbar tycoon and someone just figured out how to make hemp products(which are known to be more efficient than lumber/cotton/plastics in every way, but especially lumber.

So not because of it's health effects or affect on any citizen or person? Dont think so. Also:

jewornotjew.com/profile.jsp?ID=1634

What the fuck, you dont understand.

Youre allowes 6 plants in Colorado and if you know what youre doing thats 2700 grams indoor.

Thats free enough.

Cortisol. It reduces cortisol. Which makes it beneficial for EVERYONE. Do you lift weights? If you understand cortisol you understand how amazing THC is.

Furthermore: "recreational use" is a preventative. If it kills cancer and tumors when they exist, it obviously should prevent them from coming in the first place

I do lift weights, but havent heard of Cortisol.

Trust me brah

DUDE WEED LMAO

>ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3037578/
>Cannabis use has been shown to impair cognitive functions on a number of levels—from basic motor coordination to more complex executive function tasks, such as the ability to plan, organize, solve problems, make decisions, remember, and control emotions and behavior. These deficits differ in severity depending on the quantity, age of onset and duration of marijuana use. Understanding how cannabis use impairs executive function is important. Individuals with cannabis-related impairment in executive functions have been found to have trouble learning and applying the skills required for successful recovery, putting them at increased risk for relapse to cannabis use.
>ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4250161/
> In this study, we found that chronic exposure to marijuana (i) reduces OFC gray matter volume, (ii) increases structural and functional connectivity, and (iii) leads to neural alterations that are modulated by age of onset and duration of use. All in all, these findings suggest that chronic marijuana use results in complex neuro-adaptive processes.
>ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4033190/
>The relationship between cannabis and schizophrenia fulfills many but not all of the standard criteria for causality, including temporality, biological gradient, biological plausibility, experimental evidence, consistency, and coherence. At the present time, the evidence indicates that cannabis may be a component cause in the emergence of psychosis, and this warrants serious consideration from the point of view of public health policy.

>ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4651943/
>Various in vivo and in vitro studies have reported on the empirical role that marijuana plays in disrupting the hypothalamus-pituitary-gonadal axis, spermatogenesis, and sperm function such as motility, capacitation, and the acrosome reaction. >Note: High testosterone levels are also associated with increased in-group favoritism.(That’s why potheads are mostly lefties.)
>ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4586320/
>Studies examining the adverse health outcomes associated with marijuana use have focused primarily on respiratory, cardiac, and metabolic problems, as well as mental health problems such as depression, anxiety, and psychosis.
>cdpsdocs.state.co.us/ors/docs/reports/2016-SB13-283-Rpt.pdf
>Bonus one: Marijuana Legalization in Colorado: Early Findings.

Again, legalizing it's production for businesses will inspire (((them))) to produce it for even cheaper. Not to mention, Colorado pot laws =/= (potential) federal pot laws

>Does Sup Forums have any decent arguments against legalization of marijuana?


There are only two options.

1) Legalize all drugs
2) Kill drug dealers

Anything else is bluepilled neocon/neolib garbage.

Ok, no cancer and tumors in return for shit memory, increased risk of strokes, and decline in IQ. Seems fair to me

/s

alcohol is worse drug than cannabis
true story

> Kill drug dealers

Really it makes no difference to me.

Putting them into prison is literally the most bluepilled option.

EITHER legalize drugs OR use drug laws to get rid of scum.

The american model is literally the worst one.

Remember this you puppet?

>"The sugar industry paid scientists in the 1960s to play down the link between sugar and heart disease and promote saturated fat as the culprit"

Cortisol:
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8257923

"COGNITIVE IMPAIRMENT I'M A FAGGOT THAT NEVER WENT TO PARTIES":
youtu.be/q6Fcks7pla0

Cancer:
herb.co/2016/08/25/cannabis-kills-cancer/

Big Pharma will lose out big time if marijuana becomes legal. They're so poor and really need the money. Please help.

Sauce

Decriminalize all drugs.

Pros
>people who can handle drugs and still maintain their lives don't get punished for no reason
>punished drug users don't get their lives shat on for a victimless crime even further and creating even more problems not only for the drug user but society as well
>taxation
>quality control of drugs on the market
>removal of organized crime's main source of income
>drug war funding can be better invested in education and rehabilitation
>more harmless people working and paying taxes instead of being locked up in prison
>drugs being less of a taboo, people are more willing to learn differences in drugs and avoid certain drugs that might not fit them
>drugs being less of a taboo, problem user addicts aren't as afraid to seek help
>people who can't handle alcohol or who turn belligerent and violent when they get drunk have alternatives
Personal pros
>get to buy weed and psychedelics from a reliable source and knowing what I'm buying without having to fear getting robbed by a nigger or having to grow myself
>social norms don't push me towards alcohol as much t: belligerent and angry when drunk, but fun and energetic when high

Cons
>people who hate drugs are disgruntled for a decade
>sniffer dogs out of job
>ease of access for underage
>no accurate ways to test if a person is driving under the influence of certain drugs

Cons that are solved by a much better solution
>street view ruined by drug users - literally make laws against public use and fine people using in public areas
>lazy addicts becoming a drain on the welfare - cut welfare for people until they pass drug tests

Health-wise that's true.
Some people become happy fools when drunk but anxious and frightful when high.
Some drugs suit others better than the rest. Alcohol is no different. It shouldn't be the only available drug though because of the problems it causes in certain people.

>herb.co

Basically, America is fucking horrible on so many issues. I do think the death penalty is the way to go for sellers and users imo

i need to stop browsing Sup Forums stoned you fuckers are insane

Rodrigo Duterte is just killing off his competition. Drug dealers always do this.

Again...it's a major threat to (((them))) because one can jusr grow 2700 grams in their basement every month legally.

Increased risk of strokes...bullshit. maybe if youre already an unhealthy, hypertension-having adult who burns 4 calories a day.

As far as IQ, mine is 142 and has remained that way for the past 15 years of regular smoking.

Oh shit, I forgot that the marijuana industry has had billions of dollars to spare for decades

>I used to, but I don't anymore.
How does an argument stop being decent? Or is it just that you do not want to use them anymore because you became a pothead?

>ease of access for underage
Yeah about that. The dealers I bought from back when I was 15 didn't exactly ask me to show ID.

America has a cigarette problem, drinking problem and pill popping problem, and they're all legal
Why add something to the mix while we're still fixing the other 3

Recreational markets suck; keep it medical and grow and give. Deschedule, plant it next to the tomatoes. Hemp should be 100% legal for fibre.

Also, if it's legalized, it would be heavily taxed and regulated.

your mother

Ad hominem. The article is essentially 10 ncim articles condensed. Go verify each one if you really love small, greasy ZOG dick that much.

No.

Medical herb is good.
But if you smoke it for pleasure, you have to be shot.

>Pay over a trillion dollars for a useless policy
>Don't pay over a trillion dollars for a useless policy

Only blind moral puritans would pick the first one. If the government won't protect me from lack of health insurance, then I don't need them to protect me from marijuana either.

US Patent US6630507
Cannabinoids as antioxidants and neuroprotectants

The cannabinoids are found to have particular application as neuroprotectants, for example in limiting neurological damage following ischemic insults, such as stroke and trauma, or in the treatment of neurodegenerative diseases, such as Alzheimer's disease, Parkinson's disease and HIV dementia.

Criminally underrated trips

The option to buy it in the free market is available.

But so is legally growing $10,000 worth in your basement for personal use.


If you wanna be so anal and adament about something, act like this about alcohol and cigarettes. Really. You are coming across as a champion for the wellbeing and health of society, and you attack weed of all things? I wanna see you making anti-(((Budweiser))) movements and firebombing Winston-Salem. Fuck weed.

> Again...it's a major threat to (((them))) because one can jusr grow 2700 grams in their basement every month legally.

The federal government doesnt allow you to make your own alcohol without a special permit, you think they'll also allow you to grow your own cannabis?

> Increased risk of strokes...bullshit. maybe if youre already an unhealthy, hypertension-having adult who burns 4 calories a day.

You: "Marywanna stahps cancer!"
Also you: "It causes strokes? HA! What a spook"

Just accept that marijuana has many bad side affects. There's no denying it

> As far as IQ, mine is 142 and has remained that way for the past 15 years of regular smoking.

If you have an IQ of 142 and youre on an anime image board, then something went wrong in the test score's calculations

People feel the need to do illegal stuff sometimes. To brainwash them into smoking some grass that just turns you into a vegetable for a while, without giving observable long term effects from being smoked seldom is the best option.

alcohol is powerfull neurotoxin
very
literally dissolves the brain