I'm trying to pill a left-wing normie on why Antifa is bad. He thinks they're good because they are fighting racists and he believes that shouting racist slogans is "verbal violence" that incites violence and can be responded to with violence.
What are some examples of Antifa wreaking havoc and causing harm? I know about the riots in Berkley, but this guy doesn't mind just because he doesn't like Milo. Google is flooded with articles about Charlottesville and I can't find any solid info. Thanks.
Ask him if he supports [insert definition of terrorism] if it means stopping white nationalists from peaceably assembling.
If he says yes, congrats, he supports domestic terrorism.
Michael Ortiz
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Lincoln Kelly
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Jace Reed
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Jordan James
I dislike spiders
Christian Bennett
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Henry Hall
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Angel Hill
If he thinks violence is justified against people he disagrees with then you're going about this in a completely retarded way. He has to understand that that thought process is absolutely unacceptable in a modern day western society, and that we have freedom of speech for a reason. There's literally no point in you showing him examples of antifa violence if they're justified in his mind anyway. He needs to understand the simple concept of free speech and freedom of assembly before you do anything else.
Cooper Sanchez
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Jeremiah Turner
Hahaha, fucking hell!
Luis Ross
commies are so fucking stupid it hurts.
we need a civil war so bad
William Miller
someone post the pic where the same guy is both an "alt-right" protester and then becomes antifa.
Jaxson Baker
I'm not white, I'm Indian, but I completely agree with you no matter what race reads this.
David Sanders
Yes, there were retarded commies there, but implying guilt by association is the same retarded logic the left is using for calling all the people on the right nazis and white supremacists who were protesting the removal of the statues.
Joseph Nelson
Freedom of speech isn't freedom from being challenged on that speech. Saying racist slogans while waving a swastika around is questionable at best and at worst inciting violence. I love how stormflakes employ this tactic in order to play the victim. Like you thought Normie's would be quiet and polite while you scream in their face how your lost cause is some sort of master race.
Jack Watson
I'm no stormcuck. Unless you are literally saying "GAS THE KIKES RACE WAR NOW," there's no issue. If you need to be violent to get your point across, you are a piece of shit. I don't care who you are.
If it's a war of ideas that is called cheating.
Easton Robinson
This goes both ways and one a hell of a lot more on the right as opposed to the other. That includes the Charlottesville slam, the Riki light vigils the night before, abortion clinic bombings, Dylan Roof, Oklahoma City bombing, etc, etc, ad nauseum.
Nathan Williams
>hell of a lot more on the right
That's a fucking joke and you know it.
The difference is the left does it from a moralistic standpoint and manipulates the public. Oh they're against racism but they still have to kill someone to get their point across?
That's MUCH better!
By the way alt rightists would kill me.
Dylan Young
So is there a problem with shouting "JEWS WILL NOT REPLACE US"?
And if someone did say something you consider problematic like "GAS THE KIKES RACE WAR NOW", then what is the right way to react?
Gabriel Sanders
Give us a few examples of left-wing terror.
Luis Collins
No because that's not incitement to violence.
The right way to act is to not murder someone. Jesus Christ how psychotic do you have to be to ENTERTAIN that thought?
If black supremacists said something similar, guess what? I'd defend them all the same because this is America. We do not fucking commit terrorism to get a point across. If that's what you want to do, join ISIS.
Logan Morgan
G20 summit.
Hordes of people committing violence and property destruction.
But hey, it's all in the name of peace :)
Josiah Richardson
Your friends sounds like an idiot and you're better off cutting all ties with him before he tries to hit you with FCK NZS bat.
Xavier Gonzalez
>A fellow Sup Forums tarantulaposter
I like you.
Hunter Brooks
The left thinks almost everything is racist.
Ian Lewis
Did any of these violent protesters utilize Isis style tactics to murder anyone?
You need to ask some probing questions to see how much his thinking has been poisoned by postmodernism.
Noah Carter
NON AGGRESSION PRINCIPLE.
YES. IT'S THAT EASY.
Wyatt Cox
>not posting the original
Jonathan Cox
Oh yes they did.
Violence is violence. Doesn't matter if someone dies. You do not fucking assault anyone just because they trigger you, you psycho leftist fuck.
Would you kill Trump if it meant stopping "Nazism?"
Christopher Mitchell
A fucking leaf You should hide behind a meme flag
Carson Green
Thanks for proving my point and playing the victim.
Carter Allen
Trying to get people fired just for being right wing, or being against multi-cult. Accepting refugees killed the indians and it has a lot of flaws that needs to be discussed.
Mason Walker
>scream in their face
You're getting your sides mixed up again bud
Adrian Myers
All right so you have one case that you refuse to give specific details on. Care to elaborate or are you just role playing?
Nicholas Foster
>He thinks they're good because they are fighting racists What's wrong with racism?
Jack Wood
Well damn it if it weren't all so confusing.
Robert Flores
I don't have an itemized list for you. Anywhere antifa appears, people are assaulted or cause property damage.
Is that the kind of people you want in your community? Shoot first, ask questions and talk later? Is that what you want?
Jaxon Cook
Assata shakur Weatherman and other leftist terror rampant throughout the 70s Dallas/Louisiana cop shootings last year Etc etc
Alexander Fisher
Only problem with a war of ideas means its still catering to the lowest common denominator in theory
Jason Nguyen
And by the way, when antifa arrived in Boston, they ganged up and beat up the 3 "Nazis" they could find. The "Nazis" weren't Nazis at all. Boston antifa made it clear on their social media accounts that they hate Americans. You can look for yourself.
When that was done, did they go home?
No. They beat up cops.
Christopher Roberts
I fail to see a worthy distinction from your description. I guess I'd prefer that in my community as opposed to the revs engine and guns into a crowd type. Neither are ideal, but this is the America we all voted for.
Benjamin Reed
I call out right wing violence.
Let's see you swallow your pride, asshole. Will you man up and call out violence too?
Jonathan Hughes
>and he believes that shouting slogans is "verbal violence" that incites violence and can be responded to with violence. If he doesn't realize that this can apply to Antifa itself, then he is sadly retarded and a lost cause.
Isaiah Hall
Charlottesville Deputy Mayor Wes Bellamy is an evil man.
Yet he is still in office for some reason.
Ryan Perry
You got some pics? Verifiable documents?
Easton Phillips
I don't think you guys realise how antifa have already won The media have won, the corrupt judges and police chiefs have won. Soon the very idea of trying to rally for speech will get you doxed and stabbed by the violent left while the police your taxes pay for watch and do nothing to help you but will arrest you the moment you try to defend your self and media labels you a criminal and the attacker a hero
Face it guys it's over
Leo Lee
>look up to a vice mayor of an irrelevant city I don't think so, Tim.
William Jackson
Sure but I'm not going to concede to false equivalencies.
Ryan Martin
Jokes on you, I have no life to ruin. Getting doxxed could only. Improve my life at this point. Neets are the future of this movement desu
Jaxson Edwards
>tarantulaposter is this a thing? or do you guys just like tarantulas?
Josiah Jenkins
free speech doesn't protect you from being called an asshole by some other group... if they're winning, its because they're louder than you.
No right wing group does this shit. They don't have the corporate backing and sympathy that these terrorists have. Yes you have Dylan Roof going on a mass murder spree. Violence solves nothing.
Let's see you denounce it and not be an apologist. Otherwise you are a dangerous individual and I pity anyone who has to know you.
But I wouldn't kill you. That's the difference between us.
Levi Jones
It's not a false equivalency.
It's quite simple--you're against political violence, or you support it.
Which is it? And don't weasel out of it. Be a fucking man.
Jonathan Lee
A bit of both
Adam Lee
antifa engages in terror-speech, which is much worse than hate-speech. And it is justified to use hate-speech and violence to stop the spread of terror-speech.
Ian Bennett
i want to know why he thinks racism is bad
Ryan Martin
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Kevin Cooper
>Give us a few examples of left-wing terror. The original Black Panther Party
The Weather Undergroung
The Unabomber
May 19th Communist Organization
United Freedom Front
Students for a Democratic Society
Symbionese Liberation Army's crime spree and kidnapping of Patty Hearst
Ted did more to fight left wing indoctrination than you ever will.
Julian Murphy
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Jordan Hill
This comic makes no sense. Is he saying Nazi's are the problem?
Logan Jones
Oh god not the Islamic terrorism troll!
>CALL IT WHAT IT IS!
Nice concern trolling. And yeah, I don't think violence solves the dispute on free speech. Only calling antifa terrorists and not the kkk or the stormflakes terrorists is falling into the same trap that you're accusing me of, and that silence condones their actions. Let's remember, it's a swastika waving "unite the right" authoritarian who killed someone while they invoked the right to free speech. Your argument is getting circular.
Ryan Cooper
>Ted did more to fight left wing indoctrination than you ever will. Read his manifesto in full. He is complaining about the gutlessness and duplicity of the modern-left. He was MORE left than the left that existed during his generation. He was a pure anarchist.
Luke Reyes
Do you support political violence or not?
Would you kill your family if they supported Trump?
I don't think you would but you would have others do it because you're too pussy to answer a simple question.
Henry Martin
Unabomber was /ourguy/ IMHOfam
Leo Martin
In italy we had brigate rosse, in spain they had baske crazy secessionists.
Elijah Sanders
>Only calling antifa terrorists and not the kkk or the stormflakes terrorists The KKK hasn't committed an act of terror since the late 60s. So they fail the definition in the present given that they're under 24-hour surveillance from the FBI.
They fail the definition in the same way that the Black Panther's do. No activity for decades that fits the description.
Dylan Edwards
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Hudson Watson
antifa is fighting against this
Caleb Anderson
I don't support political violence of any variety whatsoever. If you want to have a rally about free speech, it shouldn't exclude people for the kinds of speech they'd like to express. If that speech is inflammatory don't be surprised when shit gets rough and don't play the fucking victim card or the identity politics bs.
Carter Edwards
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Nicholas Kelly
>I'm trying to pill a left-wing normie on why Antifa is bad Have him read two things
-The rise of the soviet union -The rise of the communist sects within Germany following World War 1. -The cultural revolution follow Chaman Mao's uprising.
Each time, the communists act exactly like Antifa is right now, and one of two things happen:
-There is a violent backlash which completely emboldens the 'wrong' sections of society to smash the black-clad menace in their society -They take over and pic related happens.
Tell him that the enemy of your enemy isn't your friend, and then show him video after video of how their insanity; their complete lack of empathy for those they fight has turned them into monsters willing to hurt and kill anyone And I mean anyone: youtube.com/watch?v=JE2QXxgBUDI
Not even for the political message, but for the pure sport of it. This is the end-goal when you're a radical: to brainwash your populace to feel no remorse for their actions, but also be plastic enough to change your stances and enemies at-will.
And tell him he's falling for it. He's becoming victim to the brainwashing that caused the Nazi party and the Communist revolutions across the world that killed millions of people.
If he wants more info, he can read up on how China's communist revolution is almost a mirror of what is happening here in America
>Unabomber was /ourguy/ IMHOfam A man can be correct in his identification and analysis of a problem, but still be completely fucking wrong about how best to fix same problem.
He had insights, but his plans were retarded.
Liam Barnes
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Aaron Carter
>two things Great, I added that third thing at the last minute but forgot to change that. Have him read three things.
Andrew Myers
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Benjamin Cruz
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John Brown
>don't be surprised
You have sympathies for those kinds of people. You are insincere.
I shouldn't have to be surprised because civilized people don't resort to violence.
Bentley Hill
So what, my family voted Trump. That was their choice. We didn't really have any real good options, so they went with the party they've been voting for my entire life. Does that mean I want them dead? No, but I don't see what Trump is really going to do about it.
Jordan Bennett
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Chase Morgan
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Jaxon Howard
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Brayden Reed
Shit that's good, ima steal it for a sec
Christian Martin
>the left can't meme
Austin Nguyen
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Hunter Robinson
I tried to meme once, but then my mom yelled at me on facebook for using hate symbols like pepe.
Jackson Lee
The spider is named P.Metallica \m/
Grayson Ortiz
Right, because civilised people brandish guns at a peaceful gathering from out of state to protest a decision made by popular vote in the local municipality. Admit it, you harbor sympathies for right wing terrorism.
Isaac Edwards
If you think there is any circumstance that justifies terrorism, guess what, you are a terrorist, terrorist collaborator, or terrorist sympathizer in your heart.
Political violence is terrorism. It always has been. It always will be. It doesn't matter what side they are on. They must not be tolerated.
Terrorists only true beliefs are that they are right and that anything that advances their goal is justified. Allow terrorism and you condemn your society to warlordism, because only the strongest side will win and vae victus.
Connor Clark
Good grief, stop being such a lazy cunt. It took me a couple of minutes to look up a few government reports detailing terrorist attacks across the world and their perpetrators. The Europol one states left wing terrorism is the second fastest growing source (Islam is first). Nationalist/Separatist terror only scores high because of one source accounting for 80% of the attacks (Irish Republicans).
Jaxson Nelson
I never noticed that this was made from skateboards.... it doesn't even look like they are held together.
Jose Harris
I don't know why you think I am an advocate for terrorism. Well I guess you're going to keep pressing the issue even though I've answered you're question succinctly and conclusively.
