A modern-day movement revolving around the rising tide of white consciousness should not revolve around symbols employed by a 1930s German workers’ party, particularly when those symbols carry (perhaps undeservedly) an immensely negative taboo for most normies. We are now in a different century (and for some of us, a different hemisphere), which begs for the creation of new symbols and flags to rally under.
I am thinking specifically of Charlottesville. There are many people who would like to march with something other than just the American flag, which is reasonable when their march isn’t about “muh based America” but rather about their identitarian viewpoints. It is unfortunate that too many people found that the swastika and Roman salute were the closest symbols that could speak to those aims.
I’ll start. I like the identitiarian flag. It is based on the Spartan shield.
Benjamin Gonzalez
Seems it's more of a Southern European+French and Austria movement, not really appealing to the rest.
Aiden Robinson
just fly a big middle finger or a burning cross lol
Noah Miller
Yeah that's true, at least with respect to people actually joining the identitiarian movement itself.
But what about the average burger who wants to show up at a right-wing rally, and wants to make clear that he is proud of being white and he is concerned with the collective interest of whites. Is there some sort of symbol/flag that can allow hi m to express this other than a fucking swastika?
Levi Jackson
That'd be better than the Nazi flag tbqh
Christian Roberts
>replace Swastikas at public gatherings
sounds like a solution in search of a problem desu there aren't any swastikas at public gatherings
>but Chalottesville...
no sweetie, that was an astroturfed psyop with paid agitiators on both sides. so run along and try finding a REAL problem to solve, mmk? K
Adrian Diaz
Finally someone said it. This is the biggest problem with the alt-right. They use symbols from a group that exterminated millions (if you believe in that sort of thing) when n fact, many just support white culture and want protections for whites to ensure our culture is protected against waves of shit skins. Many may like to see people in gas chambers, but would not make it really happen. A new symbol would actually give your side legitimacy.
Thomas Robinson
American flag but make the stars in the shape of the identitarian lambda
Benjamin Bennett
Red white and blue clean cut image.
But let the words be NatSoc as fuck (in *content*, not hackneyed buzzwords).
Anthony Hall
Why do you all object to waving the American flag?
Nothing is more triggering.
Parker Phillips
just use a logo that already exists everywhere to trigger people. like mcdonalds or starbucks logo
Thomas Peterson
Milk bottle.
Aaron Gray
no dipshit the idea is that the logo aggros the zombie horde onto some unwitting corporation so people see how insane they are
Samuel Morales
I love the symbol, but nondescript European-Americans waving an identitartian flag is a little questionable.
Andrew Nguyen
Fuck that shit faggot AMERICAN. FLAG. I'm not a European, I'm an American. Our monuments are ALL in danger by our own turncoat denizens, and they need to be shamed and crushed by the might of proud Americans
Levi Lopez
>shills keep blaming swastikas that their big tent disorganized rally failed
Ryan Cook
The American flag, seconded
Elijah Nelson
Exactly They wave their communist flags and their posters with their hatred for their country. The proper response is to flood the streets with American flags and to appeal to the sleeping American
Nathan Sanchez
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Adam Jenkins
Seconding this flag. I also like the yellow and black for our lolbertarian brothers
Jordan Hernandez
Probs an eagle?
Luke Miller
>the entire right wing almost woke up against the "mass movement" meme >Suddenly spic day and hundreds of threads filling Sup Forums come out against swastikas and national socialism >there was literally one swastika at the rally
You shills need to get off the board already
Christopher Williams
< this is a german flak
Luis Morales
LOL. Man Ive been visiting this board for a while now and Ive noticed that the nazis having to keep changing their brand constantly. Once a nazi, always a nazi bro. You guys arent fooling anyone anymore. You can take whatever brand of fascism you come up with next, and stick it straight up your ass.
Aiden Jenkins
The choice is obvious. Unless you're in the business of making and selling political banners.
Jaxson Nelson
I actually agree with most of what you're saying. I think the media completely over blew how many people were there sporting some sort of nazi symbolism. It was a very tiny group within the larger rally.
But I'm also trying to be pragmatic. The (((media))) will predictably try to focus on whatever they can to paint the rally in the most negative light. Unfortunately, too many normie whites fall for that trap. So long as that is the case, I am advocating for that small group of people to carry a different symbol without the need to cuck or fall back on any viewpoints whatsoever. Just the aesthetics that most or all of us can agree on.
Michael Nguyen
They used American flags at Charlottesville and it didn't stop shit
Get the fuck out shill
Kayden Garcia
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Oliver Bennett
That's right
We don't need another flag when we've got this
Noah Williams
Overwatch was shut down for a reason.
Wyatt Murphy
is this real in america ? cracy science
Liam Thompson
The answer has always been staring you in the face
Blake Garcia
freedom isn't a science, it's a gift from God.
Cameron Reyes
I like triggering the left just as much as the next guy, but in this particular instance, triggering isn't the ultimate goal.
This is a very r/The_Donald tier post.
>We don't need another flag when we've got this The point is that we're not going to have 'this' for that much longer. Whites will soon be a minority if nothing changes. Getting people together to flash the American flag isn't changing that. If we want to preserve what was in your picture, we need a uniting symbol to fan the flames of white consciousness.
Dylan Murphy
>this is a very r/The_Donald tier post.
Ah I see you're a shill of good taste Calling things TD is the #1 tactic for influencing opinion on this site, whether or not it's accurate. And you went right for it.
Dylan Fisher
>we need a uniting symbol to fan the flames of white consciousness I'd posit that's counterintuitive. You can't fan the flames" of mass consciousness with a flag or symbol you make up right now that no one will have any cultural connection to. At the very least you'd have to borrow heavily from early Americana and that sort of iconography
Carson Foster
Hi TD shill
Jeremiah Walker
who the fuck cares about TD this is pol, not reddit. stop talking about reddit and get to the fucking discussion
Benjamin Rogers
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Hudson Bell
this will just make the american flag a symbol of hate and get it shunned
Connor Edwards
The American flag is the obvious choice. If it is the only flag flown at WN rallies, it comfirms the communist argument that the American flag is a symbol of white supremacy. This drives them to burn more flags and abandon it further, and forces people to address the ideas rather than any fringe symbolism.
I have yet to see a good reason to use a fringe flag, it automatically puts the ideas under a fringe label.
Levi Perry
I like the Identitarian flag desu
Owen Hall
>liking the US makes you T_D Stop acting like you're going to re-create Nazi Germany in America.
Jaxson Torres
I see you schlomo.
These PRcuck threads are posted every few hours I bet. I've encountered at least 30 since Charlottesville. It's an obvious shill campaign to PRcuck and cause division.
Caleb Gray
libertarian fascism seems like a bit of an oxymoron
Austin Cruz
>hurrrrr PR doesn't matter stop cucking Trump literally won the election because the left destroyed its own PR. We were the sane and reasonable ones and we should remain that way.
Aaron White
This.
I'd been saying this to EVERY person at bars and other places sharing Sup Forums talk, yet not recognizing the notion of new symbolism. I emphasized the importance of family and educating oneself over all and they agree, yet they gravitate to a dated ideal. It died, and it's just lazy not to conceive the new party.
I'd appreciate if a conscious fragment of the new banner was at least politically open to "proterrestrian" ideals (i.e. what was pagan to the old, modernized, is solarpowering the fuck out of everything, demanding less slavewage hours to the jew, for one. Sources dictate there is a massive glut in produced solar panels atm, get that shit up and running lest everyone have too much time to bitch without works. Murikah is sadly low in this sector.). Having a sense of decency for the preservation of the creatures that work their invisible duties should be AT LEAST a sidegig. If we spend so much on welfare niggers and mudslime camps, it's ludicrous to ignore bees, fish, and rare beasts.
it would make sense to attempt to reconvert people on some base of the very near unity of average people, seen to us as "the happening" of new american revolution right before the jewfunding turned everyone into commies.
think about it, honestly, we were so close to a power-to-the-people mass movement to reconstitute the nation, they just fuckin had to stir all this "racism" shit up.
Alexander Perez
starbucks is a jew establishment mcdonalds offers a perfect fat carb ratio after iron pill, but still lame
Adrian Sanders
T_D means to respect the flag and love the country it represents?
>flash the American flag isn't changing that
It does a lot more than LARPing as Nazis. The American Flag unites people, together, who love this country and Western values. Protecting our sovereignty through strict borders and focusing on bringing our country backup is the first step.
Ryan Murphy
>They used American flags at Charlottesville and it didn't stop shit
The US flag seemed to make the commies and blacks more angry than the old flag of Dixie did.
Brandon Perry
I've got an idea...
Wyatt Ward
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Leo James
contrary to your upbringing, the folks on that end don't keep their women in their asses.
Blake Long
looks nice.
Julian Butler
A E S T H E T I C
Nolan Price
I agree with you...the point of this thread was to get people to stop larping as nazis...
I love the American flag and I display it proudly. The point of this thread, though, is for specific events (related to identitarianism) in which carrying the American flag may not fully achieve the sought-after effect.
I think you're missing the point. From what I can tell, you've fallen for the (((civic nationalist))) meme. Give it time. Stick around here for a bit. You'll come around.
Cooper Robinson
yea, agree.
how would you and others feel about someone flying a German or Polish flag though?
Ian Scott
that's not a swastika
Matthew Rogers
Long live the Overwatch.
Landon Gray
The swastika is an essential symbol for White people just as the Star of David is an essential symbol for Jews. We do not need any other symbol, the swastika flag is perfect, it should become really popular again, millions should wave it.
There is a reason why Jews, Commies and cucks try to ban it and are triggered by it, they know how powerful this symbol is. Such threads make me want to show this symbol even more.
Ryder Miller
>The swastika is an essential symbol for White people
Benjamin Rogers
option 1
Jaxon Torres
It does look like overwatch lol, maybe that will make it seem less threatening. I would want to make sure to short sell Blizzard stock before the rally lmao
Hunter Sanchez
option 2
Michael Morgan
or my favorite, color reversing
Alexander Perez
Gee if only there already was some flag every nationalist respects...
Justin Reed
Skinheads do exist though, they do fuck up rallies smearing their shitty ideology
Christopher Rodriguez
if your a 16yo virgin faggot
Ian Kelly
Actually that's what Hitler did with the swastika.
Aaron Allen
Incorporate an eagle. A balf eagle is already an American patriotic symbol, while the fascists, inspired by the Roman standard, had an eagle gripping sticks and an axe. The nazi party borrowed the imagery from them and had their eagle holding the swastika
Bentley King
OY!
Levi Robinson
I like this.
Aiden Flores
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Caleb Collins
There's already a US Identitarian movement that has really good optics, and it's Identity Evropa. t. IE member.
Xavier Richardson
That stupid circle with a triangle might have been fine if the swastika never existed. Now, it's obvious to everybody that it's just a fake swastika. If you have a black simple shape on a solid background, it inevitably conjures up a swastika. Just don't have too much iconography until we're a big enough movement to handle the (((pr))) blow from revealing the only true symbol of national socialism. Stop being pussies and Heil Hitler
Matthew Brooks
mass social movement are always comprised of the proles. the bourgois are always the resistance to them.
Eli Butler
>Ancap + fascist symbolism.
Nice try antifa.
Henry Brown
May not be american but i hope this would suit your needs for a flag!
Aaron Jackson
Best options are GI flag, Identity Evropa flags or the US flag.
Xavier Gray
This
T. Soon to bee IE member
Jacob Gomez
Be*
Charles Johnson
Fuck off ancuck scum
Jonathan Edwards
the swastika is the only counter culter symbol that hasnt been tainted by consumerism. it's the only symbol thats illegal in many countries. i agree that its (((bad optics))) but many are shitting on natsocs because some alt-right sperg vroom vroomed a humanoid mountain.
just becuase the MSM shits on the swastika doesnt mean the aut-right has to aswell. right now we're all banded toghter as an anti-establishment movement and we can start splitting hairs on ideology later. but white/ethnic nationalism isint an ideology, its a single issue. >we will not be replaced
Justin Thomas
>Why do you all object to waving the American flag? Because I'm not American and I wish death upon that kike slave nation more than anything else.
Caleb Moore
American flag. if someone brought a csa battle flag, ask them to return it to the car. Swastika kick there ass on the spot. Sorry not sorry m8.
Cameron Price
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Juan Perez
this is more subtle then
Zachary Harris
How about you focus on the white identity part instead of selfishly insisting that Hitler be the center of the discussion. You can educate people about how Hitler wasn't a bad guy when the window has shifted further and white identity is more mainstream.
Luke Barnes
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Brody Fisher
American "Identity Evropa" > European Identitarians
Identity Evropa:
- Strict dress code, looking elite as fuck. - No fatties, every member is a Chad. - Everyone is redpilled on the JQ. - No Nazi, kkk LARP or anything from the WN 1.0 movements. - Optics on god mode. - Feared movement. - Must prove pure European lineage over a video conference to join.
EU Identitarian:
> No dress code, just dress like left wing hipsters > Membership policy: Everyone welcome lmao > Everyone is a cuckservative "Dems are the real racists" tier > Could be confused for ANTIFA if you didn't say they were right wing > Not feared, no one tries to shut them down >No screening process for JEWS >50% of the membership is Jewish >No ideology or plan to remove subhumans
How did Americans get European identity better than actual Europeans?
Carter Barnes
It should use symbology that represents white achievements, discovery / invention. Make normies accurately associate the white archetype with civilization and futurism itself. IE: double helix, men walking on the moon, electricity, flight, medicine...
Cooper Cruz
EU identitarians love to let Shlomo Kikeberg fuck their aryan women in the mediterannean and call it an ethno movement
Remember: Jewish dick + aryan european pussy = European identity t. EU identitarie
That's why they have no screening process for Jews
Adam Campbell
You again? Ignore this guys he's neither a member of any identitarian organizations he's just a shill.
Robert Robinson
Fly the American Flag only, you fucking morons.
Liam Ross
>mfw I know which server you're from
Anthony Thomas
Half the EU identitarian wouldn't make it past this question you fucking kike
You just like them because they let you join
Christian Brooks
You nazi fags just don't get it - like always.
You fly anything other than your nation's flag, the right way, or everybody knows you're fucking traitors.
Landon Baker
This.
Lincoln Price
that is what i advocate. but identitarian movements are always going to be linked to nazis so long as we call out the jews. and the main reason is to call out the jews. you cant point to mass imigration, consumer culture, destruction of the family unit, femminism, marxism, ect without pointing to the enemy.
you're a nazi even if youre an ancap. accept it and dont cuckout. never take the back foot, look strong and principled and always seek the truth. its the most valuable weapon when everything else is lies