Whats your opinion on Russian Civil War? Would world be a better place if whites won?

Whats your opinion on Russian Civil War? Would world be a better place if whites won?

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I can see so, there would have been far less deaths and no soviet sphere of influence.

Absolutely. How the rule of subhuman Jews, Bolshevik traitors and non-Europeans can possibly be better?

the revolution was inevitable. I like the cozy feel of russian lit, but that shit was so hamhanded and mismanaged (even within the context of its supporters) that it was bound to be cucked by kikes eventually. And even if all the kikes on earth were exterminated, christianity would re-create them ab nihilo because the religion creates a space for jews to cuck them financially and militarily.

Ask yourself what good did christianity do if its greatest lights had their very children cooked and eaten by dirty rotten kikes?

The only answer is to reject all the abrahamic religions and go back to the elder gods

Its always better when the whites win.

The whites were only partially monarchistic and mostly conservative to my knowledge.

oчepeднoй бyлкoхpycт зaтocкoвaл пo бapcкoмy caпoгy лмao

It wasn't. Had Whites won there would be either ethnochavinistic junta or reactionary parliament. Either way ethnic European rule a mass purge of Juden
t. 1/8 Jewish, 1/16 Armenian 1/4 Tatar urban subhuman from Ufa

Yeah but by then it was already a fait accompli. The equivalent of today's zionist neocohens had convinced czar nicholas to exhaust his country's military and economy for the previous 4 decades or so, and had started up the sort of popular revolt based on the former serfs being fucked and being agitpropped by kikes and then finally starved to death and made mad as their bread was turned into kvoss.

A place is always better when the whites win

Victory of the Whites would mean military dictatorship with Grand Duke Dimitri as a puppet tsar.

Country would have been spared of famines of the 1930's caused by collectivization so you would have +10 million bigger pop. But on the other hand I think your industrialization pace would have definitely been slower, ensuring you had smaller artillery and tank output when Germans attacked again in 1940's.

Also, the tought that if Soviets failed there would be no Nazis may be true but that doesn't mean there wouldn't be a revanchist Germany.

ты бы дo cих пop плyгoм пoлe eбaшил, мaмин apий.

>implying the Third Reich would ever invade white Russia.

Yeah but like I said, as the whites were still beset by christian morality and abrahamism itself, the kikes would have eventually returned and fucked it up regardless. For a good read on this check out House of the Dead by Dostoevsky--it sort of perfectly documents the impotence of Christian society in dealing honestly with the JQ.

For instance--as figures like legendary Odysseus knew centuries earlier--you don't forgive or tolerate your enemy. You fucking kill them. You mercilessly trick them and lie to them about their own religion with people--agent provocateurs and spies--seeded into their very congregations. You ruin their philosophies, sully them, use controlled opposition to destroy the populace's popular view of what the religion even represents in its totality. War on a religion must be waged from the roots up, scorched earth. Nothing so milktoast as Christianity could ever accomplish the final end of the jew.

nazis would have never existed without russian revolution

there's always an excuse for germanics to wage crusades on russia. ever since teutons, when we followed slightly different branch of christianity, and up until 1940s when we followed slightly different branch of authoritarian socialism. it took us to ravage their heartland and defile their civilization to put an end to it.

this, Germany and Russia will always try to destroy each other.

>The jews are actually germans

Oh yeah this is the episode where the russian revolution was actually not planned in schtetls by filthy starniggers like (((Marx))) and carried out by boatloads of jewish executioners and their jewish financiers back in Jew York.

t. Judeo-Eurasian subhuman
Most Whites were even better than Nicolas and his vatniks, many wanted to purge corrupt leeches and corporations as well as kick start the national growth in manufacture, army and science
Again this subhuman tatar with his revisionist soviet lies. Catholics went to war with Orthodox, not Germanics with Russians. For the most part of it's history Russian biggest enemy was within Moscow or Petersburg, to outside

poor krauts dinndu nuffin, amirite stormcuck. from the sacking of rome to merkel's gaping borders policy, there is always someone else to blame for their global ambitions, ethnic genocides and horrific failures

White guard was GOAT

>No commies
>Still European nation
>No WW2
>No bloody civial war
>50,million Russian lives saved

Just imagine Imperial Russia in 2017
>Without cumming

Russia was poisoned by western radicalism and materialism, so a tiny group of bolsheviks were capable of seizing power. It's like Russians at that time lost any faith in their tradition, and were very indifferent to what happens, or even supported the coup. That didn't happen in Spain, even though communists tried. This is unclear to me, but there's definitely a common pattern in russian and western thinking, and I don't know where this comes from, a sort of unhinged radical thinking. And now Russians suddenly declare they're Orthodox. How do you explain this schizophrenia, where at one moment, you're passive in the face of materialistic marxism, and now suddenly people are Orthodox

>t fucking kike.

I'm the last to defend that degenerate race of (((Freemason))) white cucks and neocohens. Fuck Germany, I completely agree--but all shit-eating evil roads lead eventually back to the kike-devil.

>sacking Rome
A non-discriminatory multiracial empire where mixed race subhumans like you could have been born? Good riddance

кcтaти нaзывaть мeня нeдoчeлoвeкoм нa aнoнимнoй дocкe ты бы тoжe нe cмoг. хoлoпy гpaмoтa и интepнeты ни к чeмy

>tfw reading about the revolution
>kikes literally just took over some outposts such as the postoffice
>won


The tsar cucked himself pretty bad tho.

The Whites would have re-established a repressive, probably inept conservative monarchy. The best outcome IMHO would have been a liberal or moderate victory.

>Catholics went to war with Orthodox, not Germanics with Russians.
Too had that 100% of Russians were Orthodox at that time, you utter complete moron
>For the most part of it's history Russian biggest enemy was within Moscow or Petersburg, to outside
T.buttpained rural hohol guestworker

Saint P and Moscow are literally Russia Diamonds and central agreggations of power. Without them there wouldn't be Russia and snippy little cucklet like yourself

Fuck back off to 2ch , liberashka

>Passive
>Bloody civil war
????

>Suddenly you are Orthodox
>Since 990
Tomasz is drunk again

Its because strangely the jews need christianity--its like this passive slave force, and so it's being promoted. It gives the slaves hope in their quarters, and keeps them working on the plantation. I once heard an interview with (((Paul Wolfowitz))) along these lines. He said that in the 70s it was becoming clear that America needed to become christian again because it was losing its sense of self and meaning and needed to get back to work on the plantation, so the neocohen jews (former or sons of trotskyites) started the evangelical movement with all the D&C tactics of abortion rights and activism against gays and so on. It's sortof like that movie Indiana Jones--Jews love and hate christians because they are their cuckbois. Like a master both hates and needs his slaves.

...because imperial Russia was whiter

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Empire_Census
Census of Soviet Union:
ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Перепись_населения_СССР_(1959)
Russian Empire had 180 million people.
Soviet Union had 300 million people.
Russian Empire had 5.2 million Jews. Soviet Union had 1.4 million Jews. Russian Empire had 11% Muslim population,
Christian Russian Empire had 10 times more Jews and Muslims than Soviet Union.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_the_Soviet_Union
>In Imperial Russia, according to the 1897 Population Census, literate people made up 28.4 percent of the population. Literacy levels of women were a mere 13%.

No, imperial Russia was much less whiter/smarter than Soviet Union.

>Just took over
>Decade off terrorism
>Support of the (((press)))
>Sweeping in every institution just like Marxist in 2017 amarica
>Support from foreign governments
>Millions of cash from American jewish banksters

Off yourself Even
>Swedish historic publications
No wonder you're all completely historically illiterate over there

Better go sing the penis song ,even
Snippen snappen..?

>>Passive
>>Bloody civil war
Bloody for russian standards, after all they're the biggest european country

But the liberal government struggled to govern the country, and Whites were very divided about what to do. They wanted to rely either on Czechoslovak Legion, or were counting on the polish attack. Meanwhile bolsheviks captured immediately Moscow and Petersburg, and although they struggled, they generally were capable of successful offensive. I still feel like Russians didn't show enough opposition to this

they only won because 90% of the army and patriotic men were off fighting in WW1.
The Tzar himself was rarely in Russia to see what was happening.

It was basically just police vs peasants, and the police lost. Then the Tzar walked back in gets captured and killed. Leading a few tired military generals to go rogue but own no cities or infrastructure and not even coordinated. Basically just a few bands of brigands at that point which the soviets could systematically chase down and make propaganda against.

The Czechs almost took Yekaterinburg for the whites, had they succeeded in that things could have gone much differently. The whites desperately needed a hub to fight out of and receive support from, but never got it.

Its just funny because the "great communist victory" wasn't even remotely great. It was just manipulative and cheap. They took advantage of hard times and an enemy that was barely even in the country at the time.

Russia would be better off most likely, but the overall decline and decay of our societies probably wouldn't have changed in the long run.

Though I do wonder how it would have impacted the rise of Fascism/NS. While it's purely speculative I bet the Fascist worldview would have won out in their respective nations

>it was only police vs. peasants
More like half of world against peasants, since peasants were literally 90% of population.

>Christianity as Jew tool meme

Another drooling idiot

>Christian imperial Russia
>Weekly shoas

>Atheist Russia
>Ruled by Jews

>Christian Europe
>Expulsions and periodic shoas

>Secular Europe
>Jews as class of untouchables

Off yourself
(((Evangelical)))Merilad Zionists are a completely different topic and incomparable with organized , dogmatic Christianity

Russians were never really religious, moron
>Saint P and Moscow are literally Russia Diamonds and central agreggations of power
Starting with Nicolas II all those in Saint P and Kremlin WERE AND ARE ANTI-WHITE
Кaкиe хoлoпы в 1920ыe-тo, мyтaнт? Бeлыe ближe к фaлaнгиcтaм и итaльянcким фaшиcтaм, нo никaк нe aбcoлютиcтaм мoнapхии и фeoдaлизмa

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Empire_Census
Census of Soviet Union:
ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Перепись_населения_СССР_(1959)
Russian Empire had 180 million people.
Soviet Union had 300 million people.
Russian Empire had 5.2 million Jews. Soviet Union had 1.4 million Jews. Russian Empire had 11% Muslim population,
Christian Russian Empire had 10 times more Jews and Muslims than Soviet Union.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_the_Soviet_Union
>In Imperial Russia, according to the 1897 Population Census, literate people made up 28.4 percent of the population. Literacy levels of women were a mere 13%.

How exactly would Russia be better of with life expectancy of 30 years and 10 times more Muslims and Jews? Monarchy is literally the lowest denominator for retards.
>muh palaces
But those aren't you palaces you peasant.

it would have drastically changed the United States, ironically.

The Jews got rich from the SU and then moved in here. They redistributed that wealth to themselves, as they always do.
There is a reason why 90% of jews have ties to the "former soviet union," they are the same people. They just live in the United States now. If you start looking it up, you'll be amazed how many jews from Hollywood to New York are all former soviets. (spoiler: they are still soviets)

The Greens should have won to be really honest

It was financed by Jew terrorist Jacob Schiff. Better if Whites had won, but the Jew demons won.

the intervention came after the commies already controlled the country and the "whites" were rogue military generals wandering around in the woods.

Im talking about the beginning, and how the commies got control of everything to begin with. Not how they maintained it.

The peasanats themselves were largely illiterate and just manipulated. The conditions communism created were so bad that some of the original commies turned on them, adding more parts the civil war. Example: the Kronstadt sailors.

Spoiler: they are ex-Tsars
Soviets didn't build a single synagogue, all were build by Tsars. You are again being a dumb Christian shit with no intelligence about anything, not to mention history.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Empire_Census
Census of Soviet Union:
ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Перепись_населения_СССР_(1959)
Russian Empire had 180 million people.
Soviet Union had 300 million people.
Russian Empire had 5.2 million Jews. Soviet Union had 1.4 million Jews. Russian Empire had 11% Muslim population,
Christian Russian Empire had 10 times more Jews and Muslims than Soviet Union.

HAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

MILLIONS OF MORE GYPSIES DURING THE SOVIETS

LMAOOOLOOLOLOL

Friendly Reminder

Were the negroes and arabs allowed to live in the USSR?;) yes or no question

Were there any interracial propaganda made by the USSE? Yes or no question

I support the Whites.

>Russians were never really religious, moron
Never means from 1912 onwards

Fucking hell you're one pathetic cringelord .

Literally reading this spazzfest is painful

In the 17th f.e century ordinary russians went to mass every single morning.
Fasts were state imposed; on certain days it was even forbidden to serve and sell meet
Women were always forced to cover their bodies and stay virgins until marriage

I know more about your own history you incomprehensibly dimwitted fucktards

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Empire_Census
Census of Soviet Union:
ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Перепись_населения_СССР_(1959)
Russian Empire had 180 million people.
Soviet Union had 300 million people.
Russian Empire had 5.2 million Jews. Soviet Union had 1.4 million Jews. Russian Empire had 11% Muslim population,
Christian Russian Empire had 10 times more Jews and Muslims than Soviet Union.

Soviet Union had whites, imperial Russian didn't, that's a fact. All Soviet Russian statues represent whites, because multiculturalism where non-whites were deported to other Soviet countries. Now in modern Russia they are back migrated to Russia.

Reminder of what?

>Were the negroes and arabs allowed to live in the USSR?
ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Перепись_населения_СССР_(1959)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belarusian_citizenship
>citizens of the USSR who lived in the territory of a Soviet Republic would become citizens of that Republic, unless they chose citizenship of another Soviet Republic in connection with their ethnic origin.
>connection with their ethnic origin.

Obviously not, but they are allowed now:
Now lets see Putin's citizenship law:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizenship_of_Russia
>In 2002, a new citizenship act, supported by President Vladimir Putin
>Naturalization is usually granted if the applicant meets the following requirements:
>has been a resident of Russia for not less than five years
>speaks Russian

Soviets didn't naturalize migrants.

>IMPERIAL Russia
>Included many nationalities
No shit Serbshit

Are you retarded?

By your logic British Empire isn't white either

Fewer

I feel like you are in fact a Jew.

Besides no one said anything about a Synagogue, Jews are largely atheist. They are guilty of destroying countries, cultures, moral decency and prosperity, not being religious.

But don't let me tell you, take it from good ole Dick Nixon.

USSR HAD MILLIONS MORE GYPSIES

AND NIGGERS, ARABS AND SPICS!

Tell me, commie subhuman, were the Jews allowed to live in cities and Russian lands during the Empire
They weren't, вaтный дeбилъ. Eхaй нaхyй и пoдлижи cпepмy Hикoлaши c икoнки

No. Russia would have been as far gone as Germany is today. Communism at least tempered them into a harder people.

But that's literally wrong.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Empire_Census
Census of Soviet Union:
ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Перепись_населения_СССР_(1959)
Russian Empire had 180 million people.
Soviet Union had 300 million people.
Russian Empire had 5.2 million Jews. Soviet Union had 1.4 million Jews. Russian Empire had 11% Muslim population,
Christian Russian Empire had 10 times more Jews and Muslims than Soviet Union.

/Threads

Commie and libshit """"Russians""" feel free tomleave this thread

Really?
Explain
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afro-Russian

And this
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circus_(1936_film)

wikipedia is not a great source, you realize that right?

Soviet Union became less Jewish under Stalin which is why some modern communists hate Stalin or blame him for why it went bad. The Bolsheviks that you praise were quite literally Jews from Europe.

No, by my logic Austria-Hungary is like EU, that's 20% Germans, because Christian cucks. Btw that's not my logic only, that's a general knowledge of those with more than 10 IQ, who aren't Christian retards.

I feel like you can't read:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Empire_Census
Census of Soviet Union:
ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Перепись_населения_СССР_(1959)
Russian Empire had 180 million people.
Soviet Union had 300 million people.
Russian Empire had 5.2 million Jews. Soviet Union had 1.4 million Jews. Russian Empire had 11% Muslim population,
Christian Russian Empire had 10 times more Jews and Muslims than Soviet Union.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birobidzhan_Synagogue
>Birobidzhan Synagogue was established in 2004

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Choral_Synagogue
>It was built between 1880 and 1888

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Choral_Synagogue,_Rostov-on-Don
>It was opened in 1868

>*For*
>Answer with incomprehensible insults
This board is 16+, pidorok

Is 2ch down?
Libshit Russians are pure bred cancer

Census wasn't made up by Wikipedia, maybe read what the word means.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Empire_Census
Census of Soviet Union:
ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Перепись_населения_СССР_(1959)
Russian Empire had 180 million people.
Soviet Union had 300 million people.
Russian Empire had 5.2 million Jews. Soviet Union had 1.4 million Jews. Russian Empire had 11% Muslim population,
Christian Russian Empire had 10 times more Jews and Muslims than Soviet Union.

He's moved the goalposts already.
He went from trying to defend the revolution to claiming the "soviets werent that bad because they had less muslims and didn't build synagogues!"
And his only source is wikipedia. Sad!

Jews are the rightful rulers of Russia.

Russia would have been like Poland if it would have kept the Tsars

Wow, they made 1 film with black actors who didn't had Russian citizenship, but still you should read the census.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Empire_Census
Census of Soviet Union:
ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Перепись_населения_СССР_(1959)
Russian Empire had 180 million people.
Soviet Union had 300 million people.
Russian Empire had 5.2 million Jews. Soviet Union had 1.4 million Jews. Russian Empire had 11% Muslim population,
Christian Russian Empire had 10 times more Jews and Muslims than Soviet Union.

>libshit
I'm a Russian Fascist - Russian for ethnic Russians. One Ukrainian? Ancestor in 1920s? Deported. Tatar ancestor in 1940s? Deported? Drinker? Sterilized. Drug addict? Sterilized. Former Communist Party or member Russian Federation official? Jail or rope. Poccия для блaгopoдных Бeлых!
If there are blacks in your nation, you are not a nation

What a retard...

>tank output when Germans attacked again in 1940's
Ww2 wouldn't have happened the way it did. Nazi Germany would not exist if it weren't for the ussr.

Plus Germanies big vendetta was against France.

How are black students and workers citizen? Oh right, you are thinking though freedom land USA logic where everybody who steps on land has freedom to movement, marriage and so on with anybody, but that's not the case of Soviet Union. China today also has black students, but 0 black citizen or interracial legal marriages. You know they have business in Africa, but unlike UK or USA they don't hand them citizenship or freedom of movement rights, nor is anybody allowed to own any property in China who is a foreigner. Too complicated for your tiny brains?

>How are black students and workers citizen
By the Soviet law
>shitskin cuck

Nice links you have there. Even if they had citizenship in Soviet Union that wouldn't be a problem since nobody had freedom of movement or marriage rights out of the box. Soviet Union wasn't democracy.

>there were niggers in Soviet Union to begin with
You are not going to push that shit here, boy

Why does Slovenia has the same tricolor as Russia? I always wondered.

>why doesn't it reads??

Here, read your laws:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizenship_of_Russia
>In 2002, a new citizenship act, supported by President Vladimir Putin
>Naturalization is usually granted if the applicant meets the following requirements:
>has been a resident of Russia for not less than five years
>speaks Russian

Everybody can get citizenship in Russia by being 5 years in country and speaking Russian.

That's why we are aimed to hung both ex-Communist party members AND Putin's servants

Serbs stand with white Serbs, not the red Serbs.

Russia has responsibility to Central Asia. They are to Russia as Afrika to France.

You need to give them citizenship, as part of reparation for colonialism.

>mixed race subhumans
Says the SlavMong

Maybe ask Russians why they use our flag.

I see people still fall for this autistic Jew larping as a Russian nationalist.

Like I said, just read The House of the Dead by Dostoevsky. The Czars did indeed build and enforce the right of jews to be kikes. The whole thing is fucking sick. I hate all 3 kike religions.

>ITT
>russian fascists shitting on tsar
>russian communists denying jewish origins of USSR
>that buttblasted diaspora kraut detecting jews everywhere
i hate it when 2ch leaks here. Mostly because next day they will return there to larp as alt-righters for FSB to watch and laugh.

There would also probably bee far less industry or urbanization. I'm not saying that the deaths of millions were necessary for this and should be taken as is, i'm just saying russia is no easy place to make the world second biggest producer of industrial goods. Not even mentioning the language reform.

Us Serbs will forever be grateful for the attempts this man made to help us. The Russian Empire will always be dear to us. Fuck the Soviets

>лмao

Tsar married a German woman and was related to British royals. So much about your diaspora kraut and nationalism. He was as Zion as possible, globalist.

>implying royals didnt marry only royals

Fuck off commie faggot, suck Marx dick

Us Russian Fascists want no longer have anything to do with you boys or your Balkan blood sheds. Fuck Nicolas II, Serbs, Jews, WWII Soviet veterans, Communism, Orthodoxy and all that artificial bullshit.

Yes, they married other royals to form a global net(globalism) of Zion where they installed gold standard that is modern Britain, standard that is run by Jews Rothschild who created monetary financial system of central banks who rule us and fuck you in the ass with sanctions.

Russian fascist, top kek
Brain size of peanut

Serb moron, top kek
Genetics enriched by the Turks and Arabs

Which one though, pre or post Stalin?

Idiot, takes eastern mongoloid russian and calls him brother,
Shuns Serb same blood
how fucking stupid are you? Go back to your village you disgusting filth
Us Serbs fought with Russians throughout history and you 15 year old neet faggot think youre being edgy.

Jews started leaving Soviet Union with Bolsheviks, of course Sup Forums will deny this. Bolsheviks confiscated Jewish property, registered Jews and some didn't want to register as Jews, since they liked to pretend to be different things at same time, like Christian for example. Those then left to Poland, Israel and USA. Of course Sup Forums will claim also that those who left Soviet Union and were deported were Soviets.

Which Era though, pre or post Stalin?
Matters a lot

>pre and post
Stalin only forbidden Jewish practices completely.