What's Sup Forums's take on Lutherans...

What's Sup Forums's take on Lutherans? This is about to be my first semester at a Lutheran university and want to know what I'm in for

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Jesus' favorite.

Based. Luther named the Jew.

Pretty great

Luther theologically gassed the Jews, but didn't he remove a few books of the Bible in his version>

Martin Luther was a servant of Satan. His heresy has condemned millions and millions of White to hellfire. Jesus created the one true Catholic Church.

Great guy. I love when westcucks murder each other for dumb reasons.

I have a dream!
If that is their motto your college college may not be all you expect.

And he also changed a verse to support his idea that faith alone saves.

James 2:24 - Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.

James 2:20-24 - But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?

Works are biblical

Fuck off, you moron. Constantine created the ROMAN Catholic Church when it suited his political agenda and incorporated pagan features to placate pagans.
You dishonour Christ by claiming that he had ANYTHING to do with that den of paedos and fags.

Read up on Justification by faith alone and the real history of the 95 thesis. Or you could just attend and find out yourself.

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you mean Roman Catholic..... right???

Is the first verse from some newer Bible version? And the latter the KJV? Luther didn't create the KJV, and the newer Bible versions are all produced by heretics, and you can do research yourself what Satanic people those who wrote the latest Bibles were.

>Prots are doomed to hellfire. Get baptized and go to mass you damn heretics

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Polish visiting germanistan

I actualy want to convert to luteranism. Most of the protestant churches are degenerate but the luterans are actualy ok espacialy in Poland since they dont allow females to be priests.

He was just assblassted that jews refused to convert. He was convinved that they didn't only becouse of church was corrupt.
Which on the other hand rises a question why jews weren't forcefully converted in the first place. Pagans were but jews were somehow allowed to do their own thing.

LCMS and WELS = based
ELCA = Cancer

Hellfire? What the hell is wrong with you? We share the same faith in Jesus Christ. You are tearing apart christian unity with your satanic sectarianism. Repent, or you may taste god's curse, or hellfire yourself.

I use a Douay Rheims bible which clearly endorses the concept of works.
KJV isn't good

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Neither are catholics. Nor ortodox.

degenerates who helped to bring about the destruction of christianity.

How isn't the KJV good? Because it doesn't suit your own interpretation?

Are you stupid? Luther was pissed off Romans sold god's forgiveness like candies and most of Rome was brothels for catholic monks.

He reformed the faith, because catholics turned into heathens.

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If you aren't a member of the only church that was sanctioned by Jesus, you are a heretic. Don't buy into this "new wave religion" crap where everyone is saved.

Please go to mass.
Please pray the rosary.

Degenerate? I would call rydzyk pretty degenerate

Constantine made the Catholic Church, not Jesus.

Because it isn't the best translation. It adds flowery language at the loss of an accuracy

>Wants a college degree
>Picks a worthless one

AHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAA!!!!!!

"Flowery language" was the fashion in which the majority spoke back then.
It is the best translation. 50+ linguistic experts with the best transcripts knew what they were doing.

Tell me again how muslims are based and cool it was that protestants were helping turks under Vienna.

Luther never intended to make a huge fuss with the Roman Catholic Church and only did so when his back was literally pushed into a corner. His 95 thesis were a dry academic take on why indulgences were not allowed under catholic doctrine and the pope and HRE went autistic because they made too much money on the scheme.

Luther was an extremely conservative religious figure. It's only through catholic incompetence he ever became a breakaway figure.

There's roughly 1000 years of history prior to Constantine that categorically refutes that.

I don't know where you get that claim that the verse is changed, but in my finnish bible from the year 1938 James 2:20: Mutta tahdotko tietää, sinä turha ihminen, että usko ilman tekoja on voimaton?

Translation: But do you want to know, you vain human, that faith without deeds is nothing?

That's prot propaganda.
Jesus founded the church and appointed Saint Peter as the first Pope

>Catholicism

I must have missed the part in the bible where Jesus was selling indulgences to get to heaven for a few extra shekels.

Catholics and muslims were just as bad, difference was Catholics wanted protestants dead.

The protestant electorate of Saxony sent forces to aid in the siege of Vienna.

So Catholicism claims all the early church now? So how catholic were the early Syriac church? The Coptics? The ancient Primates of orthodoxy?

Can anyone link me the catholic doctrine on the matter? Because I have a really hard time taking this seriously

Jesus: believe and you receive eternal life
Catholic church: but also under these conditions

You also missed the part where the corruption of a few clergy doesn't disprove millennia of time-hardened Tradition and Teachings

The Bible says to NEVER call anybody father apart from your father or God. Not a priest, not some old fart in a big hat.
Jesus never called Peter "Pope", and didn't establish the structure of the Catholic Church, and didn't create the meme later additions to Christian doctrine by the Catholic Church. He literally called him the rock upon which he built his church and that's IT. Who appointed the "pope" after Peter? Who appointed the pope after that successor and so on? Talking a bit of the old shit there, mate. There is no link between the Roman Catholic Church and Jesus, no link at all.
Shut your mouth, faggot.

It's widely known that Martin Luther added the word "alone" to romans 3:28 and said he was """inspired by god to do so"""

Actually he was inspired by his own greed and power lust

Is it hard to type with that muslim dick in your horseteeth mouth?

we have a traceable line of succession go check it out on wikipedia you goon

You a Christian?

you're confusing catholic with Roman Catholic.

Sola Scriptura is unbiblical

muslims, jews, and atheists smile when protestants and catholics fight each other.

lots of protestant vs. catholic threads today. Who could be behind it?

Thats because jews had the chance to become christians but refused to do so and went on killing Jesus. Therefore they are cursed for all eternity. See Matthew 27:24–25.

There is also the theory that after the jews killed Jesus God made the Jews extra disgusting so the whole world can see how disgusting people are that refuse God. See f. e. Blaise Pascal.

I know someone who goes to a Lutheran university. He told me that well over less than half of the student body was Lutheran or even Christian. All the admin and profs are Lutheran though, so apart from that, I'd imagine its not much different than any other uni.

Here you go man. Taken from the back of my Douay Rheims bible

>using the Bible to argue against a doctrine that the Bible is the deciding factor in doctrine
KEK. Yeah, well, some 12th Century Saint I just cherrypicked had this one doctrine, so I've disproved you.
Any medieval paedo could have spoken pure nonsense and you might believe it because... why?

Germans are one of the only white people who gotta go.

There are problem whites as well.

Religion of a white man.
Catholic countries are brown shitholes.
Fact.

Prabobly catholics and protestants? Dude, you fucks spend last 500 years hating each other.

So you know, christians could just expell them. And by expell i mean throw them out and DON'T let them in immidietly like they actualy did.

Every European country that ever banned Jews was Christian.

Perhaps he did add something to the bible, I don't refute that, but again, I turn to my 1938 finnish (lutheran) bible (that is very, very accurate to match the original bible of NT written in greek). Roman 3:28: Niin päätämme siis, että ihminen vanhurskautetaan uskon kautta, ilman lain tekoja.

Translation: So we shall conclude that human is made righteous through faith, without the deeds of the law. [see, no mention of through faith ALONE].

Martin Luther had his faults, but even the great king David was adulterer (every one of us sins, even the best of us).

Martin Luther was inspired by money and power lust? He gained absolutely nothing but defamity, scorn, excommunication and had to flee for his life for the Wittenberg theses.

You have to look out for confessional lutheran churches. Our statechurch is cucked beyond believe.

Martin Luther made creation of US possible. It is yours Original sin.

Thank you I'll do some reading in this.

I know people get hit on the discussion but I'm more than willing to change my mind if indeed the evidence supports it. I'm illogically sympathetic to orthodoxy but that is probably based more in sympathy to how ruthless the muslims are. Thanks again.

No, no, no, no, no! We have to aspire to be godly and perfect and not fall short of the glory of God! Uh, what? The thief on the cross? Th-that was just an exception. A very convenient and idiotic one.
Checkmate, prods.

And then continued to have them. Banning doesn't work when you let them in immidietly. You might as well not do it to begin with.

He's leading you astray. You don't touch Catholicism with a 10-feet stick, or the priest will both touch you back AND send you to Hell.

It wasn't "immediately", though.

Most of the peasantry spoke without the embellishments actually, it's only in literature and amongst royalty that flowery language was in common use

>goes to private faggot school
>waht's pol think durr

yeah because we all went to that retard place you think is so great, right? no
this is not a political thread
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It's basically atheism so it's normal and no biggie.

Shakespeare used flowery language, and the masses still listened to his plays.

No. The point is your arguments are based upon a foundation of sand.

The early Church had no Bible but their teachings were preserved through Tradition. Eventually, they compiled a canon of these teachings and continued guiding the Faithful with scripture and authority on new or unclear matters of faith and morals that inevitably arise as time progresses. The sheer fact that proddies have splintered into thousands of cults within the past 500 years is ample proof that the early necessitated a hierarchy to rule on contested matters in order to preserve it from heresy. Hence Peter, the Rock of Christ's Church and Bishop of Rome was given this authority by Christ. It's almost as if Jesus had the foresight to see how much infighting humanity was capable of and set up safeguards to preserve his earthly church.

In most parts of Germany jews did not exist untill the 19th Century. F. e. There where no Jews in Saxony where Luther lived. But consider that argument from Pascal why it is good that jews exist:

It is a wonderful thing, and worthy of particular attention, to see this Jewish people existing so many years in perpetual misery, it being necessary as a proof of Jesus Christ both that they should exist to prove Him and that they should be miserable because they crucified Him; and though to be miserable and to exist are contradictory, they nevertheless still exist in spite of their misery.
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A few clergy?

The pope signed off on indulgences and you still claim he's infallible and frankly you're deluding yourself if you think your priests haven't been kiddy diddlers for centuries.

I have a feeling the list is going to be bullshit but either way the Church of England is simply cucked at this point.

Didn't peter hitchens say it was full of socialites and socialists? I'll defer to him since I'm no expert

1 Corinthians 4:6:
And these things, brethren, I have in a figure transferred to myself and to Apollos for your sakes; that ye might learn in us not to think of men above that which is written, that no one of you be puffed up for one against another.
Out of curiosity, are you a real faggot?

The Church is the Word. Not some building or a bunch of humans that wear fancy clothing. The Vatican is as Christian as the Pharisees were God's Chosen people.

The Church of England is pure heresy at this point, as is the Catholic Church. Most denominations are absolutely heretical and not to be trusted.

It isnt. Only because your statechurch is a cucked piece of shit doesn't mean that there are no based confessional lutherans around. See kinor.no/

>Lutheran University
>Paying thousands of dollars to hear about how supernatural powers are real.

Cool story bro.

this list is a relatively recent creation. within past 500-1000 years.

>Didn't hurt or kill a single person in his entire life
chad messiah beat the merchants in the temple with a rope.

amend your blasphemous memery immediately!

Timothy 2:5:
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

>It is a wonderful thing, and worthy of particular attention, to see this Jewish people existing so many years in perpetual misery
And now you are suprised we have problems with kikes.
Never wound something you don't plan to actualy kill.

A bunch of shitskin loving cucks.

Lutheran institution doesn't equal religious courses. Also the church originally controlled universities and schools in the West, and they still hold thousands of them around the world.

>you still claim he's infallible
For the hundredth time, the pope only speaks infallibly when speaking 'ex cathedra.' The scope of this relies on it being relevant to Faith and Morals and MUST be EXPLICITLY stated as being spoken as from Supreme Magisterium, or "with the full authority of the Seat of Peter." This is a very specific scenario that provides the pope with plenty of room to be WRONG on MANY things: polotics, movies, hell even in matters of faith and morals when spoken as simply from the Common Magisterium or "just his theological opinion" on the matter. Papal Infallibility is reserved to clarify existing doctrine, not create new ones and it is a FACT that it has stayed consistent for over 2 millennia.

Also, they stuck him with a spear after he died.

Wow, they have a picture with a church with almost 10 people. In Norway?

Well... The Eurobarometer of 2010 says that only around 20% of the christians in norway believe in God. So I guess that means 2 of those 10.

And he died in like, 12 hours or something crazy short.

How do you determine existing doctrine? You rely on oral tradition, yes? How do you know which oral tradition is right and which is wrong?

The dramatic content of your paranoid replies gives an inside look into what must be a delusional hellscape that is the world you live in.

You are no authority to speak on what is correct interpretation of scripture and neither is the pastor you visit in a hockey ring stadium, barn, or wherever it is you proddys go to profane Jesus's teachings.

>says bullshit
>is showed scriptural evidence of him bullshitting
>"wow, so paranoid"
I'm not the one saying that you can pick and choose doctrine taught by some Catholic random that isn't in the Bible, mate. How am I profaning Jesus' teachings? You're the one saying the Bible isn't "all that and shieet".

>literature
Yes, theater is a form of literature.

Not every peasant spoke in iambic pentameter and was like "thou dost jest" and whatnot.

We follow the teachings given to us by Apostolic Succession which, yes, includes Scripture. A static book is insufficient though since this world is ever changing and new possibilities arise where discernment of proper application of God's Word must be used. An authority to sort out Truth from these new applications of the Word is necessary in order preserve the original teaching.

Heresy.

No shit, but they could understand him, correct? His plays weren't popular because the onlookers liked looking at the men in drag, were they?
Why do you think the authority that preaches fags are okay and that all people go to Heaven regardless of religion is valid? The current fag in the big hat is, according to you, the rightful successor of Peter and has holy authority. How much of a fag must one be to accept this?

And I'm saying Scripture is open to many (flawed) interpretations and that Jesus knew it!
That's why he gave us His Church to preserve the teachings He left us as well as weigh in and extract Truth from the chaos that is life in a world of Sin.

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