Molymeme vs Fascist

Finally Molyneux is debating a fascist, havent watched it yet but it's supposed to be pretty good
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>molyfag
>good
Pick one.

another one of the great philosophers of our time, up there with Sargon
e-celebs are so intellectual, I wish I could be like them

If he put it up it means he "won" so what's the point of watching it?

So it's just him ranting in the mirror?

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Not an argument

Almost 20 mins in, Molyneux is making pretty shitty arguments but the other guy is pretty good so I'd say it's alright so far.

FPBP
Can I nurse your bigben.

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Yes but be gentle because I'm uncut

Autistic libertarians always confuse the normative with the descriptive. Capitalism by its very nature is amoral, no matter how we think it should be otherwise.

29:40 tfw molyneux finally named the jew casually but so casually it probably won't redpill anybody.

Molymeme the BASED civic nationalist republican!! AWOOOO

He does that alot actually

He should've had an academic or someone like Matthew Heimbach.

> "hurrr they use words 2 win, not fair"

Samesies. Don't worry no teeth.. When you nut I'll keep sucking your head to watch you squirm!

This guy is actually really smart, it's just Stefan Molyneux that's sperging all over.

>The free market doesn't put people in debt for getting cancer

oh Moly. Poor guy didn't last 20 minutes.

Do people forget that Moly is Jewish?

He's only like 1/8 jewish or something and he shittalks kikes alot. He clearly doesn't identify as a jew.
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>(((Molyneux)))

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His narratives benefit Jews ultimately

>muh freedom
>muh individualism
>muh anti racism

The problem with jews is that they are tribal and they fuck with us.
Molyneux is neither of these things so why should anyone have an issue with him.
He even defends Christianity, most jews spontaneously self immolate if they see a cross, that's how much they hate us and everything about our culture.

>youtube.com/watch?v=-Q8BLfefGtg
He actually changed his views on that more recently after MacDonald's paper. They were arguing that it was a silly comparison as Israel is comprised of Jews of all different races and ethnicities, from all different continents. White, black, Asian, Arabic Jews etc. But this was in the context of Zionism in comparison to white nationalism - something Stef argued was not a fair comparison as Zionism was faith/religion based and white nationalism (or ethnonationalism) was more race/ethnicity based.

Haha. Fuck off kike.

Well yes but that's more due to his ideological dogmaticism rather then his jewish self-interest. Problem with debating and listening to jews is that they talk from a ethnic self-interest which they coat in some complex layers of ideology to make it look like they aren't. Thus every debate with a jew is almost always automatically lost by because the jew doesn't care about the ideology he's spouting so even when you point out potential failures and pitfalls in the ideology the jew doesn't care and just argues around it. Stefan does care about his ideology and while he's pretty zealous in it you can convince him of faults in it without him totally trying to screw you. This is sort of what happened on the race thing where he became redpilled on race, IQ and immigration whereas he used to be a radical individualist on such things.

It's however pretty obvious that he doesn't go into too controversial territory cuz that could endanger his show and thus his money-source.

That "facist" got completely #rekt.

>not even knowing about three-field system

HOLY SHIT WHAT A RETARD!

And he likes to rebut "Jewish Conspiracies".

youtube.com/watch?v=0o2eKaELGMY

His point was still valid, maybe not neccesarily fully in the context of that example but still, offshoring industries leads to a massive wealth transfer to other countries, i.e. modern example is of course America and China. America moved it's production to China, empowering the Chinese economy and political power and massively disempowering that of America and causing alot of Americans to either go into unemployement or to compete in the already heavily crowded service job-market and government work.

The American government should have tried to empower American businesses instead of allowing the corporations to move America's industry.

I guess u could argue that this one of his older videos when he was less red-pilled.

>Calls self fascist
>Defines fascism
>Uses Germany as an example

Fucking idiot. Nazism is not fascism.

>authoritarian cuckolds EPIC BTFO'd
>Nazi LARPers on suicide watch

Sorry, you cant talk about how a country should be led if you get #rekt on such basic shit.

This is literally DDR tier of retardness.

Obviously meant

If you believe in the superiority of the white race, freedom is the only choice that makes sense. Unless you don't think whites can win against the shitskins in a free society, in which case, how are we superior?
>b-but the kikes are too smart to be allowed freedom!
>b-but the niggers are too strong to be allowed freedom!

He self-admittedly used it very broadly and National Socialism was quite similiar to the beliefs of Italian fascism or British fascism.

Not really, Moly had to resort to muh morals at the end. It's also his show, he can cut and interrupt and tell his big massive example while his opponent has to do it much quicker and more concise. He probably did better than any other person Molyneux debated with.

My sensors aren't detecting any arguments

>muh morals
Thanks for letting me know I can just ignore all posts by your ID and not waste time reading shitposts.

No. In nearly all the video where the JQ or JQ related questions pop up, he's quick to defend against "antisemitism". Don't get me wrong I like the guy, but he's by no means "redpilled" on the "JQ".

it happens pretty often

You didn't address my argument idiot, you think America's outsourcing of jobs to the far-east is a good or bad thing for the American people and why? You think that empowering foreign nations and multinational companies over your own people is worth it when you can get maybe a 10% price decrease on certain industrial goods?

Collectives can easily overpower atomized individualists, look at libertarian movements anywhere in the world, the only place where they have an even mentionable power is in America where they get maybe 5% of the national vote

>memeflag
Going around crying about Jews isn't how you bring people to your side in moral or political arguments. If someone is intelligent and can view the world and history objectively, they will come to the conclusion themselves(or at least be far easier to convince). Try to force it, and they will reject you from the start.

Minarchism is not a free society.

Facism equals communism and vice versa

I'm not advocating for that. Nor would I want Stefan too, because I agree with exactly what you just said. We're on the same page here.

>He's only like 1/8 jewish
The fuck, his mother is full kike thus he is a jew.

>but he's by no means "redpilled" on the "JQ".
I think he is, he's just not stupid enough to display it.

It's the same damn issue though, you can't rally around a cause that is all about individualism because doing that would require some amount of collectivism, some shared values, some political leadership that you have to empower, it's bad enough with libertarians and minarchists, it's impossible with AnCaps.

youtube.com/watch?v=k79wCaFgU40
A fucking leaf that sounds like this dipshit, not surprised.

You are a fucking retard moly is a fucking idiot this time. Him advocating the buckshot out sourcing of our jobs because of MUH free market bullshit just like every Jewish libertarian

i stopped at: muh ancient Greeks already had the steam engine, but they didn't develop it further because they relied on cheap slave labor instead.

I haven't even heard the debate, I just know they are BTFO'd because authoritarians are triggered ITT.

>some political leadership that you have to empower
Wrong.

A collective pursuit of individualism is the exact opposite of collectivism. (((Political Leaders))) are a spook.

I'll agree to disagree, he's one of those #NotAllJews type from what I've seen of him, especially this year.

Stefan's right, the guy makes no sense at all. NO FUCKING SENSE! Fascists are rtards with no self-esteem.

We wuz star computers!
The Antikythera mechanism is pretty neat, better than the simple steam works the Greeks had back then.

>ancaps
>lolbertarians
why should i give a shit what they say ?

Pretty sure ancient Mediterraneans DID have a steam engine. There are stories of the technology being known in Library of Alexandria.

However the technology never became widespread partly because it was kept secret. I also think they never really conceived of it being more than a toy.

He's never really clear with how jewish his mom is exactly, only that she had some jew blood.

A collective pursuit is collectivism. Ask yourself why communism is so succesful in taking over countries historically despite the ideologically being self-defeating dogshit? Because it collective issues and collective identity is one of the most important facets of it which allows them to politically organize far better than any AnCap or other individualist ideology.

Great argument!

>Communism
Collective pursuit of authoritarian collectivist cancer != Collective pursuit of individualism.

>politically organize
Politics is a spook.

I don't believe in white superiority

I believe the white race has a right to territory to thrive as we see fit

Get outa jail soon friendo.

He literally said in one of his vids that he is "apparently jewish" but he denounced his judendom since he considers it as just another cult.

This idea that everyone that has jewish blood in them is somehow part of a massive conspiracy to take over the world is retarded

>people watch this guy

To figure out if he's a Jew you have to either look at his weiner or at his wife's nose. If he's a Jewish racist, his wife must be jewish too.

I KNEW THERE WAS SOMETHING OFF ABOUT HIM

Yeah I got my comments in already. Molyneux showed just how full of shit he really is - in my opinion.

The kid didn't even use all the arguments I was thinking of while I was listening.

>I don't believe in white superiority
If you want an ethno-state, or even just a society free of degeneracy, the only way to do it is to have a free society in which the "riff raff"" cannot compete or manipulate the (((Politics))) to favor their inability to compete.

that was not the point - tbqh. the argument he made is still shit. and i show this so called "steam engine" in the gif i posted.

>Politics is a spook.
/leftypol/, please leave your shitty memes at the door.

You should call in then.
Not an argument.

The concept comes from race realism, they as a tribe act a certain way by nature. It's not a conspiracy to take over the world, it's just in their nature to steal, displace their hosts, parasitize and be all round kikes.
Personally I think his hate for his mother would negate a lot of that though, he would go out of his way to not be like her.

>Jewish clan
>Berlin
>1940s
Yeah that sounds believable.

Well hes prett y much advocating standard Jewish libertarianism who only gives a shit about profit

>muh markets
>mun NAP
Every time another dude spends his youth cuddling a 2D waifu I like the "free market" less

You're retarded

Keep crying about the Jews, I'm sure that will make people stop caring about those evil profits and freedom.
Not an argument.

Sorry, Mohammad.

Will Stefan shift over to neocameralism and other free market oriented ideologies? When does he realize anarchocapitalsm cannot sustain itself over a long period of time before reverting to a democracy?

>When does he realize anarchocapitalsm cannot sustain itself over a long period of time before reverting to a democracy?
A democracy? Don't think so, it will either change into some type of corporate dictatorship or oligarchy or a monarchy.

Try posting more Moly reaction faces with every post of yours please. Need some.

have a free one on the house, I gotta go and sleep now anyway.

Monarchy is the true end game of AnarchoCapitalism.

Correct.

>blonde hair
>blue eyes
>square jaw
>advocates against white genocide and communism
>calls jews out on their hypocrisy regarding immigration
>is somehow evil and jewish because his mother might've been or might've not been fully jewish

What do you guys think of based Base? is it based?

Cultured Thug>Molymeme

Thanks. I'm off too.

>calls jews out on their hypocrisy regarding immigration
He completely changed his views on that. See .
He said the only fair comparison to Zionism would be if the USA or Europe adopted a faith-based immigration policy, not racial. So that means black, white, Asian and Middle-Eastern Christians allowed in just like Israel lets in black, white, Asian, Middle-Eastern Jews in only. They tried arguing Stefan on Jews being a race, but he cited scientific documents stating that it's not true as it's only Ashkenazis & some of the Sephardis that share very similar genetics/DNA and on a lot of cases they actually share far less than together than white Americans and Hispanics do, which makes it silly as we wouldn't consider them part of our race.

>what's the point of watching it?
This question works for all of his videos.

>brainlets

>Molymeme: shut your mouth you know nothing
5 minutes later
>Molymeme: woah come on bro dont be a douche dont belittle me
really faggot ass molymeme?

I listened to most of this. I don't think Moly is very good at addressing the shortcomings of muh free market to be honest.

I watched a bit and while the guy calling seems intelligent enough his idea of collectivism being good is really fucked up. You can't trust anyone into governing that. We're not bees and government with too much control over people always ends up abusing them

There are no shortcomings in a free market. All the "problems" attributed to the free market do not exist in a free market, but in controlled markets masquerading as free.