Freedom of speech at its core is a centrist idea because it allows EVERY one of you fucks a say. Current generation of kids will grow sick of SJWs and alt right bullshit. Each time there's violence perpetrated, people will see that both sides are nuts and side with centrists who see the value in competing opinions from all sides.
So go on and keep LARPing, keep running people over, keep acting like autistic fucks because your time is numbered.
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>assuming we will fall for this
(you)
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Middle of the road gets hit by both sides. Pls stay there op
shills to the left of us, shills to the right
and we're stuck
right in the middle of it
Fascinating OP! Would you mind spelling out the policies/beliefs of centrists for me?
The center is what the left was 10 years ago.
The right is what the far right was 10 years ago.
No. Think for yourself cuck.
this
centrism
>Think for yourself!
>NO NO NO Not like that though!
>think for yourself
>everyone around you acting increasingly irrational
>get annoyed at radicals everywhere
>eventually realize these people are beyond saving and should be put in the ground for the greater good
and the cycle continues
Wrong
The far right (le pen, nigel, etc) is what the right was 10 years ago
Or stand on the pavement and don't get hit at all
>quotes a movie to prove he can think for yourself
Not off to a good start there buddy
>Le pen
>Right
That was literally center left 10 years ago and only a predominantly communistic shithole, like France, can consider it even remotely right.
Fed deradicalization thread.
>Centrism is the future
You wish, but people are too retarded for that.
>the radical centrist meme
You say that centrists think for themselves and develop their own opinions, but the fact is that they do no such thing.
When you're a centrist, you have to be in the center of something. In this case, the center between the right and the left. But what happens when those move? If the left becomes more extreme, you have to move to the left to still be a centrist. If the right becomes more moderate, you again have to move to the left to stay in the center. That means you have no real values other than wanting to stay out of controversy or to come off as so smart and above-it-all. You're just following the crowd, saying whatever the "centrists" are saying. The last thing you are doing is thinking for yourself.
I realize that some people might hold the same views for a long period of time and happen to end up in the center for a bit. The difference is that those people don't call themselves centrists. They call themselves what they've always called themselves (e.g. "Classical Liberal").
tl;dr Centrism is a constantly shifting set of values masquerading as an actual ideology followed by those who don't want to actually stand for anything.
20 years ago the right believed in science and loose gun control before they started pandering to their evangelical and white trash base.
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Climate change was a centrist thing and now it's a left thing.
He was talking worldwide burger, he's still wrong but you're an idiot.
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>Middle of the road gets hit by both sides. Pls stay there op
Depends on what you're driving...
The position of an idea on an arbitrary spectrum relative to other ideas on that same spectrum has no bearing on the truth of the idea.
Left, Right, Center, it's all bullshit. Hell, the one dimensional spectrum is retarded.
Nope, we're gonna kill all the commies.
>Current generation of kids will grow sick of SJWs and alt right bullshit
Seems legit. I was a neo-nazi back in the mid 2000s and then a SJW in the early 2010s.
Arbitrary spectrums, when used properly, allow for the deducing of political views based on simplified information. If I say I'm right leaning you can divine I'm a conservative without having to have a 3hour political discussion, same if I say I'm far left, you can call the psych ward to take me away, without the need for a lengthy diagnose.
Are you sure? Practically everyone I know besides pro-corporate republicans believes in manmade climate change, although that could just be a function of where I live etc.
Gay marriage (at least in the US) used to be a left-wing issue. Obama (center-left) ran opposed to it in 2008 but ended up supporting it. Just one example of how centrism is always changing its beliefs.
Who could forget all those radical centrists in history. Truly a relevant ideology.
>Elitist, snobby "centrist" idiot fails to see the greater issue at hand once again.
When you, your country, and your people are under an organized attack from a hostile tribe of people who are actively seeking to destroy you, not "radically" fighting for your own survival is tantamount to suicide.
You aren't thinking for yourself at all, you are only choosing "centrism" because it strokes your own ego and makes you feel superior to the people who actually give a shit about the future of their country.
You are the ultimate docile, selfish idiot.
I get your points but if you apply your same logic to the left/right you will see why shifting ideologies doesn't matter for voter support. Ideological changes don't happen overnight, they happen over long periods of time. This is why the USA left/right have both been able to gradually shift more conservative while still maintaining strong bases. These voters did not notice the shifts because it happened so slowly, and most voters couldn't tell you what the ideological implications of policy proposals are anyways, they just go with what sounds nice.
So it doesn't matter if a centrist party needed to shift around because the other parties are doing it as well and it doesn't hurt them.
>You aren't thinking for yourself at all, you are only choosing "centrism" because it strokes your own ego and makes you feel superior to the people who actually give a shit about the future of their country.
Funny that both the alt left and the alt right would agree with this, but with different views of what is best for your country. I'm saying you both have a point and lets work it out in this experiment we call a democracy.
A centrist would admit that Jews do hold a lot of power and money, but who am I to say they didn't work hard to get that? A centrist solution would be to say if you want your race to hold the money and power, then start working towards that, but if you can't do it without violence or forcing people to leave, then that's your problem.
Sure, I mean that's basically how political parties work. But there's a difference between an ideology and a political party. An ideology means the same things regardless of the current political climate. But centrism, which people claim is an ideology, is really just an amalgamation of the most popular and least controversial views.
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It's like Civic nationalism, nothing will change. We need a state free of jewish control and black dysfunction.
>Obama (center-left) ran opposed to it in 2008
Everyone knew that was baloney though. Still, kinda wild how rapidly public opinion on that changed. I remember Bush43 trying to have the fucking constitution amended.
your argument fails when you realize there is not actually a hostile tribe out to get you, there is no organized attack on "your people", and that you have been deluded into this radicalization for a specific purpose...
It is one of the most common tactics in political history to take extreme viewpoints to mobilize the angry, and to give these people a scapegoat, while promising everything will be alright when this evil enemy is finally defeated. The problem is almost nobody is really evil, and the problems of society are vastly more complicated than this kind of extreme ideology can understand
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go to bed carl
You realize that centrists look to you how you look to them. Evil extremists looking to disrupt civil discourse.
Except that what you bongs call 'pavement' is what Americans call a sidewalk and what you lot call a road or asphalt is what they call pavement.
You see here is the big problem, you are literally not thinking for yourself there. First you start off trying to mediate between two groups that actually have the ideas, while adding nothing of your own, then you turn towards democracy, which is literally the death of original thought due to needing mass appeal and then you end on, "if you don't like something, it's your problem, I like my current system."
This. Former centrist here. I've come to realize that centrism is what got us here in the first place. Centrists just try to appease everyone, and in doing so they compromise any their principles and stand for nothing. They are weak, spineless, and complacent, and thus could never rule over a society for long. Conviction and principles always win out in the long run. Pick a side and stay on it.
Right, political parties and ideology are separate. But that is why centrism might be effective as a party. In a polarized political environment, like the current one, the ideology of the left and right parties are so far apart that it is a crime to the base of the parties to be seen compromising with the other side. US system still requires minority party approval for many actions. If the parties remain extreme we would likely see an increasingly ineffective government unable to get anything done.
A centrist party would have no real ideology, true, but a party based on compromise for effectiveness may seem attractive if the left/right continue to no longer see eye to eye. That may be the only route for our government to run well. Other option may be removing the power of the minority party, which we already see from both sides use of the nuclear options in Congress, but that would likely lead to a one-party state and I do not want that.
Please get off pol you cancerous lolbertarian and centrist jewish pets.
>Centrism is the future
there might not be a future
>This is what centrists actually believe.
You do realize that in some situations more, or less gun control could be better. Once again you say we should think for ourselves and there is 0 thought put in that picture.
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Centrists should be boiled in hot oil, there, you gave me the freedom to say it. Don't like it? To bad cuck, it's my freedumb according to you.
Obviously you weren't Centrist, just an indecisive cunt. Contrary to Sup Forums memes, there is a difference between the two. You can be socially right-wing and economically left-wing. Nothing indecisive/compromising about that nor is it rocket science. Only subhumans and the niggers of white people are unable to think in anything but stereotype extremes.
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"Ouch, that really hurt and you really got me there. I regret ever giving you free speech!!!!!!!111"
... Oh, wait, he never said that
>Gravity is either real or not real
>Joke's on you, I'm a centrist! It's half real!
>he doesn't believe every citizen should have the right to own a nuclear warhead
Filthy centrist.
the only enemy is jews
>commie jews
>zionist jews
>and fence sitting yellow backed coward centrist jews who just want it all
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fucking die
The problem with centrism is, that it is unable to generate any decent policy.
It is superior if applied as an attitude to different opinions, but fails if you must make an unconvenient decision, because you want to please everyone at the same time. Our chancellor is a good example.
>which is literally the death of original thought due to needing mass appeal
So Hitler didn't rise to power without mass appeal? Also, what happens when the opinion of the masses changes? Centrism and democracy allows for changes to public opinion and their leadership. That's the point and that's why I even do welcome opinions of the far right and far left, but don't believe violence in the streets or vilifying either side is accomplishing anything.
hell yeah, take the gold pill radical centrism all the way
>implying alt-right are trying to silence anyone or take away rights
Yeah, you can shove your commie propaganda right up your ass, faggot. You're more obvious than CNN primetime. We're coming.
>using science to convey a message
All observations change. Theories are contrived from regulated observations.
You've missed the point of the "alt-right."
As long as the "alt-left" receives support from fake media and the establishment, the "alt-right" is what is preserving freedom of speech. Period. The alt-left was only there to shut it down.
Understand, centrist nigger?
yet Merkel has been in power for over a decade now and that seems likely to continue. Looks like centrism is working just fine for her
>It is superior if applied as an attitude to different opinions, but fails if you must make an unconvenient decision, because you want to please everyone at the same time.
No I realize that not all centrist views will please all sides. Take abortion for example. There's pro-choice and pro-life. The pro-life extreme wants to ban all abortion, yet pro-choice believes it should be left up to the mother because it's her body. I think that pro-choice is a centrist position because it allows both sides to make a choice.
It's like with guns. Far left would say ban guns, far right says no restrictions. I think gun control is fair, just enough that those who are pro-gun don't feel like their rights are trampled on, but still manages to keep them from being so available that even a child and insane person can buy them.
There's only one group of people on Sup Forums i've seen constantly change their viewpoints on a whim.
Hitler rose to power due to mass appeal, yes. However his decisions from there on out were vastly authoritarian and did not wait for the sluggish, suffocating and downright schizophrenic voice of democracy to let him enact them. Yes, democracy is good for one big decision, but is no way of efficiently governing a country. And weather or not you'd like to admit it, violence on the streets and vilifying either side is accomplishing something, you could never hope to - It's giving people a purpose, something to strive for, someone to fight against. Human life require strive, this is why centrism could only briefly take power in the cool down period between giant shifts.
Sure, but that won't tell me anything about your particular beliefs. Are you socially conservative, or just fiscally, for instance. It's a useless schema, and it only encourages misunderstandings and fallacious arguments.
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