Here's how you argue with the lefties, if you are so inclined. I used to do it a lot and as soon as I realized how it is done, it is so easy.
Although many on the right have lots of ideologies, from ancap to monarchist to natsoc, there is generally two things we all have in common: a victory condition and a consistent ideology. A monarchist wins if the state has a king. Ancap wins when the society has minimal governance. Even cuckservatives win if there is no bad change made in society. We can say to the world: "I am a conservative, this is what I want society to end up like!".
Now we look at the modern left. Their groups are generally harder to define, save for the commies. Otherwise what do they want to do? Create race equality, stop hatred, create social equality, be progressive. How can you achieve any of these? What does a society need to be like to be equal? What is our end goal of progression? How do we eliminate all hatred? Simple! We can't.
Sometimes the left will define it's ideology, but very rarely. Go to any leftist website or video and see what they discuss: it's always the weaknesses of the right. All videos on youtube discuss how the right is wrong and they assert that the left is good without any backup. The few times I hear leftists explain their ideology, it always ends up being something really wierd. One guy I remember was dissing the idea of a god, but then went on to say how he believed in cosmic life force entities present in the stars. They are that stupid.
So all you have to do is this: after they've yelled at you simply turn the tables. Say: okay, now what do you believe in? Draw direct comparisons to what they think will work over what you think will work. Often they will yell and scream to try and shut you up, but put them on the defensive with: "If your belief is so obviously true, then you won't lose if you try arguing with me rationally will you?"
By law, all men are to be treated equally. There is a very important difference.
Juan Garcia
It's more fun to troll them and drive them into insane rages.
Luke Bennett
Nice the ol loaded question technique
Lincoln Perry
We are created equal, but defined by our choices.
Alexander Rodriguez
this
Grayson Hughes
I thought Commies did gulag and famine, so i was told in previous thread. Now in this thread Commies create equality. Ok then, have fun with your mental illness. You don't even know what equality means. Soviet Union was made out of different country, there was no equal law between them all, not even equal law between cultures. While your melting pot isn't equality either, you just don't give a fuck who you import to use for capitalism. Look up dictionary what equal means, it sure doesn't means diverse.
Michael Sullivan
What does that even mean? Equal intelligence? Equal capacity for memory? Equal height? weight? That's such a vacuous statement.
James Lopez
Listen.
The left doesn't want a genuine argument. They don't want a debate. They don't want an "open dialogue," because "dialogue" would imply two people speaking back-and-forth, which we know they won't allow. They don't want an "honest discussion," about anything, ever, because honesty is antithetical - a killshot - to everything they believe in, and again, a discussion would warrant more than just their side talking. What they want is for you to shut the fuck up while they lecture you, ostracize you, beat you with bike locks and steel bars, facilitate the genocide of your people, and to watch their wives get fucked by niggers. Your advice would be great, were it not for the fact that it is all too clear by now that they have made it a point to NOT listen to what you have to say, under any circumstances, but rather to fucking kill you off. That you still believe in a chance for debate, and they do not, is very telling. The left has abandoned humanity toward their ideological enemies. They've declared war on you, white man, and the sooner you realize that, the better off you'll be. To attempt to engage a leftist in any kind of earnest discussion is like trying to negotiate with a bullet coming at your temple to maybe slow it down a little. Don't waste your time. Save your breath. You're gonna need it. When all the conservatives are purged from Twitter and Faceberg, universities and government, they're going to come for you where you retreat to next. They are smoking you out until you have nowhere to run, and when your back is finally against the wall, they WILL open fire on you. Wake the fuck up.
Josiah Bennett
Created equal [in the eyes of god]
Matthew Cook
Yeah, but Trump is a Kike lover you wannabe Nazi. Socialism is left wing. Hitler was Socialism and against Jews.
Jordan Cook
No we are not. That's left-wing claptrap. You are born with some inherited characteristics. Some elements of your being are prior, are biologically predetermined. You can work on yourself, you can improve certain areas such as your physical appearance or your cognitive abilities but to pretend that man is born as a tabula rasa is such nonsense.
Ethan Myers
He's saying that the lefties can't even define what they believe in most of the time, which is true, because any positions they have are either illogical, irrational, or have no actual solutions. Ask one of them what "progressive" even means and I'd bet 99% of them cannot define it within logical parameters.
Christian White
You don't debate with leftists, it's a waste of time. You have to show the undecided that they represent a danger to society and how mentally unhinged they are so they will side with you.
Jordan Green
>implying conservatives conserve anything but billionaire's money Illogical is that you too stupid to understand the difference between Socialism and political party called Socialistic party. That's really sad you getting paid to spread lies for your Zion trying to collect votes.
Dominic Price
>"Yeah, but" >[insert unsolicited opinion on Trump out of nowhere here] >implying the left hasn't shifted the goalposts so much that anyone who doesn't agree with progressivism is literally Hitler Found The Kike
Asher Long
What about manlets?
Jaxson Jones
Sure thing, whatever makes you happy. Fact is you are making anti-Jew memes to collect votes for republican party. You retards won't convince me, not in 1000 threads that words matter more than your laws republicans pass who are all pro-Zion and pro-migration. I don't give a shit about your memes of diversion. You are on black forums and gay forums too, but there you spread different propaganda for your republican party to collect votes. There's no difference between democrats and republicans.
Funfact: Hillary isn't in jail. Wall won't be build. Trump didn't deport more than Obama.
Wyatt Sanchez
MODS ARE SHITTING UP THE BOARD AGAIN WE NEED BUMPS
Robert Mitchell
Hahaha, great question. Sit down, son. Let's talk about that.
Cameron Russell
As a leftist, Progressive, or liberal to define a society in which they would be conservative. Watch how hot and bothered they become.
Carter Kelly
>implying I'm Republican >implying I voted for Trump >implying >implying >implying You're the only one here saying any of this. Putting words in people's mouths is a liberal tactic. Just shut the fuck up and go back to /leftypol/, retard.
Asher Johnson
>>implying conservatives conserve anything but billionaire's money Trump just signed an executive order that would prevent using taxpayer money to ever bailout corporations again. How does that benefit billionaires again, hot shot?
>"Core Principles for Regulating the United States Financial System" (particularly important because it prevents future government bailouts with taxpayer money) Signed: Feb. 3, 2017
Don't pretend you know shit about American politics when you clearly haven't done your research.
Nathaniel Sanders
The ultimate red pill: There won't be less blacks and Mexicans in USA no matter which president you elect, there never was less blacks and Mexicans. Why? Because you fail to understand the difference between political party and political system(laws). Your politicians pass pro-migration laws, always have, while you quote me some dumbass shit what some Jew said. Laws are all that matters, all political parties follow laws, they don't follow words coming from their mouths.
Dylan Perez
But user, there never been bigger difference between rich and poor. President should close their companies or limit them to specific town. You think their billions aren't enough to buy/bribe every politician and every new company to work for them? What have you solved? They can still spread.
Have had way too much to drink. (You) are reading shit that is not there, and distracting from Kys
Elijah Johnson
Amen.
>discussing with lefties
Joshua Baker
Step 1: Immediately post all factual information and cited credible sources for each.
Step 2: Fuck off and ignore them, you can't argue against facts and our current problems in the world are not those of a philosophical nature.
Joshua Smith
Reason if sane, Humiliate if rabid.
Brody Baker
>But user, there never been bigger difference between rich and poor. Maybe in your shit-tier country. A better question to ask yourself is why are you worried about what someone else has earned/inherited and why do you feel somehow entitled to their money?
Hard choices to limit birth of blacks/Mexicans, but never hard choice to attack 100 different countries rape/slay millions of children. Funfact: you aren't in control, elites are. If i would be president of USA i would instantly limit births of blacks/Mexicans, instantly put such high penalties for companies who employ illegals that their head would spin and they would get a stroke, nobody would ever employ illegals ever again, then i would simply limit corporations to one town and they would stop being corporations, we would create many companies in each country independently. Democratic voting cucks will never accomplish anything in favour of any race, culture, never conserve a thing.
I mean, you faggots change the goalposts all the time: >First it's Trump doesn't care about people >that gets BTFO >W-w-w-well what about the rich? >That gets BTFO
You lefties entire ideology hinges on blaming other people and literally never taking personal accountability. That's your biggest problem, to be honest. What's next? Evil boogeyman banks?
Wyatt Rogers
>you can't argue against facts The entirety of human history disagrees with you.
Also you are a retard. >Just leave so no actual debate can happen, just fuckin buckshot info you believe in and leave, that will work. kys
Luke Gonzalez
Yep. The Left doesn't debate, they assume you are wrong and need correcting.
They also hate anime girls for some reason, but I guess I'd be pretty humourless, grim and unlovable too if I thought communism was preferable.
Daniel Smith
This is a good point. Critical Theory involved simply criticising, without offering alternatives.
But you need to be prepared for the various easy routes they will take.
E.g. they can simply respond: "All the people of the world living together in peace". How do you respond to that?
"The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative." Never let the enemy score points because you're caught without a solution to the problem.
Nicholas Edwards
Conservative also means "modest" in English, yuri
Sebastian Brown
This doesn't work. I've tried this one many times on sheltered liberals.
You believe everyone should have healthcare regardless of their ability to pay?
>Of course! Look at Europe.
Why aren't you donating your disposable income to healthcare charities then?
>B-b-but the rich need to pay!
Wealthy people not paying your ideal tax rate doesn't prevent you from providing healthcare to someone who can't afford it, now sell your xbox and start donating since you believe everyone is entitled to healthcare regardless of their ability to pay.
>B-but drumpf is a doody head!
There is no arguing with them. Making them uncomfortable? Sure. But no back and forth argument.
Oliver Turner
Oh no. The Serb won't vote republican in the American midterm. Whatever will the GOP do?!
Jose Morgan
>President should close their companies or limit them to specific town. This is the antithesis of capitalism and in no way a viable solution. You don't just abandon capitalism on a whim because a company puts up too many franchises across the country. Also we have anti-trust laws in place that take care of that in the US. Don't know if that's even a thing in Slovenia. Again, if you did actual research on the topic you're trying to talk about you might come across as a little less....uninformed.
Thomas Ortiz
I seriously can't think a single thing in which USA is better than Slovenia. USA is cancer that's killing the planet and you still failing in race, culture, debt, degeneracy, you are a bad example. I don't give a shit about how much you 30% white mongoloid spends and how big your GDP is. It's pointless to measure GDP, especially when i am not the owner of skyscrapers, i don't care how their GDP has increased or decreased, i am not the owner and those shitty multi-billion dollar building cover my sun and nigger stank up the whole New York with chicken and rape semen, so fuck that.
Jordan Smith
I didn't even notice this post, but it's genuinely funny that some Nobody in slovenia is this butthurt about what's happening in America. Go outside and kick around an empty soup can or whatever you people do over there for fun.
Juan White
Good points bro.
Noah Gray
>facts are just pointless >the absolute state of leftie delusion right now I'm in the US and can't remember the last time I even saw a nigger not on my laptop because I worked, saved, and bought a house in a majority white neighborhood. That's how capitalism works.
Samuel Jackson
You sound mad
Adrian Rogers
>limit them to specific town
Lolwat? Apple can only sell within San Fran? Good god man, do you know what that'd do to the US economy?
Camden Smith
the obvious answer is when black lesbians are all that are left alive. at which point they will kill themselves for lack of anyone else to blame for how miserable they are in their meaningless shallow unfulfilled lives
Cooper Jenkins
Oh my god what a fucking disaster
Jace Cox
The Left's debate skills are evolving. Yesterday it was >You are literally Hitler is now >You are unironically, literally Hitler
Ian Perez
most alt-lefties don't even know what they think, they're programmed by the (((PC))) agenda via the (((education))) system, MSM, and SocMed.
That's why they're always triggering off, because they can't compute the logic of their stance, because it was brainwashed into them rather than happening organically.
That's why they can't argue rationally.
Michael Morris
That is blatantly not true.
Cooper Scott
Anyone got those studies that show how conservatives are able to understand the mindset of liberals, commies, etc, but that these leftists are literally incapable of understanding a conservative mindset?
Hunter Allen
Don't argue. Just red pill them and leave.
Kayden Ward
Oh god, op wants to try and dismantle the way the lefties argue and pose thier ideas in order to disarm and redpill them hopefully. Meanwhile you're over here LARPing your own murder. >Yes goyim their is no hope left, we're fucked, the left is too stronk. Realize that there is no possible way to win against them!!! Next you're going to criticize me/my person and not refute my argument just like the we-todd-edd lefties you just described. Neck yourself
Jace Jackson
Sort of like how you hear about so many lefties switching to conservatism, but hardly ever hear about it going the other way
Anthony Collins
Talking about the state of nature. "Endowed by his creator with certain inalienable rights".
Please quote in context.
Logan Jenkins
Then go out there and prove us all wrong, sport!
Charles Kelly
OP is blind to rational progressive logic and assumes they lose control when confronted. OP is demonstrating his immaturity and ignorance combined with weak bait.
OP please kys.
William Murphy
This. Don't try to talk (in the sense of speaking the truth and trying to reach agreement) with the left. The left never does not talk in this sense, they just attack you and try to shame you. And that always beats genuine dialogue. You have to fight moral fire with moral fire.
James Carter
I think you win more people over by trolling the far left so the people that are in the middle that can sway either way can see how ridiculous they are, how they can't take a joke, and how they can't manage to function in their own.
I also think many young people on the far left will snap out of it eventually, at least the ones who deep down are reasonable but have been conditioned by their education add the media. They'll get tired of their lazy good for nothing friends one day and want to do something productive with their life and that's when they'll turn into conservatives.
Alexander Allen
Fun as hell. We should try getting more of them to see logic and reason, though so I agree with the OP. Many libs are not beyond saving
Camden Baker
The left is a cult of mystique; none of their rhetoric touches practical concerns. Their purest instinct is their lust for power.
Luke Gonzalez
None of that works. There is no arguing with leftists, they are indoctrinated cult members. They have no minds. Arguing with them is like arguing with a wall. Better at this point to smash the wall to bits. They have truly become the zombie horde. Kill them all now before its to late. They are spreading.
