What events/outcome do you think would have occurred in WW2 if Japan had never attacked Pearl Harbor?

What events/outcome do you think would have occurred in WW2 if Japan had never attacked Pearl Harbor?

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weaker USA, much stronger Germany

also, no anime

Japan would had a veeery big domain on Asia right now.

FDR would've found another way to get the US into the war.

The US would have eventually bombed Japan from china
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FdR was one of (((them)))

Nazi Germany still falls to Russia in the end. Japan retains control of Indochina. The (American) war in Vietnam never occurs. France most likely fails to retain its former colonies. A weakened China may or may not become Communist. There's really no telling where the Russians would have stopped without the Americans to prevent them from moving past Berlin. England fares the same either way.

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Japan just took the initiative, like how Germany attacked the USSR. Plan jb-355 would have been executed if Japan didn't do anything. War was inevitable

>all of western mainland Europe becomes a war torn communist hellhole
>Japan and USSR go to war in the pacific, ends in decades long stalemate
>Japan controls all of east Asia and the Pacific
>Japan and Britain go to war over India
>cold war still happens

>FDR would've found another way to get the US into the war.

Yep. (((They))) committed the US to the war as part of the agreement with the Brits to pretend to give the Zionists Palestine.

Would nuclear weaponry still end up being used? What if the Germans got a hold of it?

Nothing would change. I'm not even sure the timing of the war would change much.
US armed forces had little impact on the war.
On the other hand US economic output, shenanigans in the Atlantic and embargo on Japan had HUGE impact, but all were in motion months or years before Pearl harbour.

Is it agreed that Nazi Germany would be likely to have fallen nonetheless, because of the sheer number of Russians against them?

If Japan never went after the US then it would have delayed the entry of the USA for at least another year. Also without the damning attack the american people would not have had the anger and resolve needed to deal with the coming conflict.
With japan still a potential enemy for the soviet union the siberian armies would have had to stay put. These are the same armies that stopped the advance and led the counter attack against the germans. The rest of the Russian army in the west was in shambles at the end of 1941.
The american air force not being deployed would have enabled the germans to maintain air superiority in Russia. The 8th air force's real effect was not industrial destruction it was forcing the luftwaffe to spend resources defending the home land and not maintaining air superiority in threatre. Without air superiority in the field Russia could not maintain any offensives.

>US armed forces had little impact on the war.
Tell that to the luftwaffe. The 8th air force bled them dry. Enabling russia to maintain an offensive in clear weather. Without the sheet amount of fighters dedicated to combatting the 8th airforce it russia would never have achieved air superiority.

Germany would have won the war against the Soviets. Soviets lost 17-19 million soldiers and they would not have been to fight the war for another years. The soviet drafted 16-17 years in 1945 and could not have waged war in Germany where every city would have a fortess with faust patrons boys and mg42 in every window

the united states would have attacked the philipines which it held since the end of WW1 because they beat up germany in WW1 in the pacific which germany had simply annexed shortly before WW1

this is contrary to america history textbooks from 1970 - 2010 take on things but multiple other countries verify that japan had taken the philipines from germany in WW1 and owned all of korea pre WW1

and america demanded it hand the philipines specifically over or there would be war. to which japan simply attacked

Germans would have been eaten by wolves and bears if they reached Siberia

In 1943-1945 Germans wanted peace with the Soviets. At first they the Baltic States and the Western Ukraine, then 1941 or 1939 borders.

German airforce was pretty much done after the battle of Britain and Barbarossa. You guys put the nail in the coffin to both their airforce and industry, but there is no reason why allies and comintern couldn't have done the same if you supplied them with the equipment.
The most liberal estimates never went over 14 million. Official Russian records state about 9 million casualties. By the way, Soviets didn't conscript underage personnel although some faked documents in order to serve.

And Soviets did wage war in Germany with their fortress cities and kicked German ass hard. Last ditch low quality weapons, "volksturm" battalions, and "flakhelpers" had no chance against superior Soviet numbers and firepower.

Anyway, it is important to note that around 90% of total German casualties up to 1944 were on the eastern front.

I fully believe the Nazis would win. no woken giant, no defeat of japan and invasion of Europe, Germany would refocus on one front and would eventually stonewall Russia into peace treaty and Germany gets butt tons of land, Britain dies a slow but inevitable end, china and Australia eventually steam rolled by japs, no one left to fight back, Nazis rule the world in 2 hemispheres - west and east.