Civic Nationalism

How does Sup Forums feel about civic/progressive nationalism? Is it just another globalist plot, or is it the true future of nationalism?

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(((civilization)))

nobody wants to live near nogs man

Makes my dick hard.

Slap a diaper on her.

Civic nationalism is a broad term.
Most people think as long as they follow the law and don't ask for change its ok.
But as minorities populations grow they will get what they want more frequently until the whole culture of the nation changes.
If it is complete assimilation then it is ok but only like 0.0001% of foreigners can actually assimilate to a point where white nation's culture is not threatened

It's sadly the best hope of any sort of victory for Sup Forumsish ideas in society

If you couldn't get white nationalism in ~99% white nations, how will you achieve it when those nations are ~50% white? The race war is never going to happen, and any model for violent revolution relies upon having the sympathies of a significant minority of the public - which unsurprisingly white nationalists don't have.

>nigger
no

a bit of a thotty, yes, but that is no nigger my friend. don't make me angry!

>Implicit association test

lol. You mean the one that shows results that can't be separated from the novelty effect? The one where of the three people who created it, one is activity campaigning against it while the other two will say it isn't very good if asked?

These people are dumb as fuck.

Listen to Jared Taylor, there is hope of establishing white only areas.

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I'm for civic nationalism if we can holocaust communists first. Only way civic nationalism could ever work is if communism is eradicated.

I listen to ol' Aristotle on this one

Civic Nationalism is a great Trojan Horse for us NatSocs to talk to normies about shit.

>progressive nationalism.
Fuck that! That's not going to secure the future for our people.

Sauce on the ape?

>there is hope of establishing white only areas

Not while those areas are under the control of governments like ours. Plus your average white person doesn't look too fondly on WN death squads blackbagging and "disappearing" their non-white friends and relatives.

As the saying goes, you work with the army you have, not the army you want - the best way to achieve change is within the current system by supporting populist/nationalist types like Trump, not hoping for some WN IRA to take over (like most WNs are hoping for)

I don't see an issue with it as long as everyone's values are truly compatible with western civilization. Cucks, feminists, leftists and the like all get the rope.

>US still the undisputed number one global superpower for the past 75 years despite having millions of niggers
Was Aristotle wrong?

Would colonize her vagoo/10

Not a bad use of 88.

No.
Our diversity growing pains are relatively new. No generation of American had to deal with it to this extent before. It's the source of a lot of strife in the American population today.

I used to attend Amren conferences and had a few conversations with some of the people there.
There just needs to be a WN group that seperates itself from the Alt-Right, so people don't associate us with retards like David Duke who spams pseudoscience about testosterone or nordcentrists like Nathan Damigo. If we get enough member maybe the idea will go mainstream, the purpose of the movement will be establish white-only areas, limiting or stopping immigration and ending affirmative action.

>There just needs to be a WN group that seperates itself from the Alt-Right, so people don't associate us with retards like David Duke who spams pseudoscience about testosterone or nordcentrists like Nathan Damigo

Have you ever thought that maybe WN is the problem if it keeps attracting idiots and scam artists like Duke and Spencer?

It's been a political dead end since the '50s, the major "achievements" of it being a few murders and the enrichment of hucksters like David Duke, I think Sup Forums really needs to re-evaluate its attachment to white nationalism (and yes, there are ways to do so that don't involve wanting your people ethnically replaced because muh magic soil)

She's from Bongland. Don't know her name though

This is what they think will happen.
But if by civic nationalism you mean to enforce "the american way and costumes", you will find yourself deporting quite a lot of black people, and pretty much all muslims.

How do you think the government could ever manage to deport people for thoughts and feelings?

Definitively nope.
But if they violate the law because they're not following the american way..

what defines a civic nationalist? they like their country? they think borders should exist? that describes >99% of people. civic nationalism is literally nothing

Yep.
The "nothing" that is heavily under attack.

I think of race in the same terms as Enoch Powell did, namely that I am "conscious of the differences between men and nations" but at the same time I "do not believe that one race is inherently superior to another." Hence I accept, for example, that importing ten million blacks into Britain would fundamentally destroy the nation and change it into Africa, and that it would no longer be Britain; but at the same time I treat each man basically on an individual basis.

I believe that to want to retain your people in the clean majority, while tolerating exceptions to the rule, is the only sensible way to look at the matter; or, in other words, both the absolute purists and the open-borders communist tools are wrong-headed. Even in the eighteenth century, for example, the great Dr Samuel Johnson had a black servant called Francis Barber who married a white woman in his lifetime; Johnson saw nothing wrong in this, and gifted him a considerable sum of money in his will. The descendants of Barber live in Lichfield to this day. Hence a small amount of racial mixing has been going on in Europe since time immemorial, and never did us any real harm, nor was it really censured until recently; that only came about with scientific racism and the Nazi party in the 20th century. I think the really important question to answer is, is a person that is not white in favour of preserving the founding stock of the nation in the majority? If so, I consider him to be a patriot, and indeed far more so than I should any treacherous white communist who would see his own people exterminated by means of mass immigration in order to bring about his socialist utopia.

Some sort of middle-term to describe a position between what is called "racial" and what "civic" nationalism is required: namely, to advocate for the preservation of the indigenous population in the majority, while allowing for exceptions, and refraining from political persecution on the simple basis of race.

>Some sort of middle-term to describe a position between what is called "racial" and what "civic" nationalism is required: namely, to advocate for the preservation of the indigenous population in the majority, while allowing for exceptions, and refraining from political persecution on the simple basis of race.

>if only all black girls look like this

ITT Brainlets who fail to understand that civic nationalism inevitably leads to an ethnostate or at least close to it as it will reverse the declining white population

This video sums it up well.
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>It is not impossible for a black to be British but difficult

Civic Nationalism cannot prevail unless it has its racial ethnic base.

It must be ethnic. It could possibly stay civic with ethnic, but ethnic must be first.

except that none of the stuff on the left side of your cartoon has anything to do with "civic nationalism"

Isn't that Lea Edge

NO black puss puss for you wh*te boi

yeah I know her. This is her

That's kinda what I figured:

>not wanting a qt3.14 weeboo who will be your good wife for life

I like the idea in theory, like you see in Heinlein's work for example. Societies like the ones in Starship Troopers and The Moon is a Harsh Mistress seem theoretically plausible, but the main point is that these ethnically diverse people are culturally homogenous. It will never work without that cultural homogeneity and we're very, very far from anything resembling it.

I don't know how you guys can just hate and harp on people enjoying their lives because of how they were born. Jesus christ do you seriously not have anything better to do

wow! Racist much?!

I love the idea of it. The only problem is you have to murder every leftist agitator and "community organizer" to achieve it. But I have no problem with BASED echoes and subhumans, problem is they're pretty rare.

Also, we'll never achieve Civic Nationalism since blacks are just not on the same level as Asians and Whites. So we're always going to have this unfortunate reality that can be exploited and antagonized.

Would I, dare I say it, fuck a black catgirl? Hell yeah, I would fuck a black catgirl.

I bet her dad is like "thank God she's a weeb and not some ghetto chicken head".

And I say, her dad, because I'm pretty sure she has a 2 parent household.

There is no future tho
the jews will replace u xd

What's with all the nigger lovers in this thread?

she's a good girl.

Based Black Catgirls
I love me some BBC!

loves her mama

She is super qt and if even half the disgusting troll like black women were cute weebs instead of factories converting EBT into ferral young dindus the country would be a 1950s style paradise

Sailor Coon

Civic nationalism is a meme, why is this hard to grasp? Its a post-modernist concept - where in history has it been implemented and successful long term?

sauce on girl?

the jews are probably trying to take us down because we whites are too caring about everything to do what they want all the time. the chinese are willing to be sacks of shit and kill everyone, but they werent powerful enough to take us out, so while the jews would love to simply coerce the chinese to do what they want instead of whites, whites were still more powerful.

solution? fraction the whites, let the chinese get stronger while it happens. once china can win, get them under your belt, and destroy the whites for good.

easy.

fuckin cunt
made me lol

Why blacks.. Nigger culture is as American as football.

God I'd love to colonize that pussy

Knew some ausfag was gunna say it. I fucking knew it. You cheeky fuck

>Qt black girl
THIS
IS
MY
FETISH
MORE

Loves Jesus,
and America too

Civic Nationalism works. Look at Latin America or the Arab diaspora.

One single unifying culture will always prevail in spite of racial differences. White Americans were retarded to segregate and ostracize black Americans to the point that they ended up developing their own, niche culture.

Go back to plebbit American politically illiterate mong.

"I have and always will set my face like flint against making any difference between one citizen of this country and another on grounds of his origins" (c) Enonce Powell

Do you enjoy multiracial Britain and all the uppity affluent ethnics? Thank Enonce Powell. Despite his later anti-immigration views, whilst he was Health minister in the early 1960s he encouraged a large number of Commonwealth immigrants into the understaffed National Health Service. Prior to this, many non-white immigrants were often obliged to take the jobs that no one else wanted (e.g. street cleansing, night-shift assembly production lines), often paid considerably less than their white counterparts. Powell was vehemently opposed by the Trade Union movement (who feared that immigrants were being used by capitalists to keep wages low by artificially increasing competition for jobs), but there is no doubt that in easing non-white immigrants into what was considered a prestigious form of career, he boosted the confidence of the immigrant population and helped lay the foundations of a future immigrant-descended permanent Afro-Caribbean and Asian middle class in Britain
Form a resistance unit. Network. Stupid demonstrations and contemporary Western political culture of waving flags won't help. If you are ready to die, live in exile or spend some time in jail, consider the following. As long as you don't neutralise the opposing team: imams, high-profile kikes, cuck party members, community organisers, pro-refugee pro-migrant organisations members and leaders, nothing will change. Act up. Kill them all

Nonwhites will never be the majority, Trump wants to increase European/Anglo immigration via the Raise act. Plus if we make sure a tax plan that benefits white families happens not to mention ending birthright citizenship and deport all illegals using a 1 million man ICE team as well as Importing White South Africans and Zimbabweans. America could become around 80% white at the most in a couple generations. Spics are only growing because of immigration along with Asians. If arrivals from the third world were to be cut they would shrink drastically. States above 75% white would also have their white percentages increase because of it. The Mestizo/Hispanic Birth Rate is already declining the only reason it's still growing is because of immigration/birthright citizenship. Cutting third world migration, ending birthright citizenship along with other key things listed here will make their population in this country collapse.

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Also have a free banana

Latin America is a gigantic shithole, that's not a good example at all.

It's a perfect example of putting National identity over a racial one though.

The US would be twice the country it is today if segregation/slavery never occurred desu.

Except we probably won't be heading towards another Brazil if you looked at my first post. Also racial tensions are extremely high over there as well.

It would be better, if blacks were kicked out/never brought in. Non-Germanic and non-Anglos would have never been allowed in too, you stupid mongrel.

The main reason for all these mess is a fucking basic biology. But I guess you "very own multiracial society never been tried", right?

The only way to keep it as natural as possible is radical exclusion. It's literally unnatural to care about those who are not of your own. Empathy towards those genetically dissimilar is literally a sign of genetically inferior individual good only for sterilization. Genetic altruism fails the evolutionary group strategy greatly.

Civic "nationalism" is multirculturalism. Culture is a racial ethno-linguistic product alone. That's about it. One way to deal with it: In Europe DNA based citizenship within the subracial group only; in USA - Balkanization. A multiracial society is just some bizarre perversion dreamt up in the minds of marxists with sad childhoods and literal rootless jews (not even a conspiracy, look up the ethnicities), biological organism following their biological perogative when inserted into it is not strange or surprising. You guys act like Brazil, USA, Russian Federation and South Africa don't exist. Population groups compete for resources; bringing a bunch of different subspecies of primate into one administrative region and saying "okay, you're a country now" doesn't change that.

Civic nationalism is a con job meant to console whites on the theft of their countries.

No one is going around telling the Chinks or the Japs or the Muds that those who aren't from their country are somehow just as Chinese, Japanese, or Shitistani as they are.

Make no mistake, (((civic nationalism))) is an oxymoron and a tool of you know (((who))).

nigga dat's kawaii af

>Form a resistance unit. Network. Stupid demonstrations and contemporary Western political culture of waving flags won't help. If you are ready to die, live in exile or spend some time in jail, consider the following. As long as you don't neutralise the opposing team: imams, high-profile kikes, cuck party members, community organisers, pro-refugee pro-migrant organisations members and leaders, nothing will change. Act up. Kill them all
That's the only option we have left

The Roman republic lasted 500 years

>Hispanic

Delete this word from your post

This picture is fake. Niggers can't swim

Since when it became multiracial and egalitarian? Basically in 212 only. Ignorant moron

She's a good girl, crazy 'bout Elvis

That's still 300 years
The empire was even more multiracial than the republic

How does that not count as long term success?

i think most peoples understanding of civic nationalism is exactly what that image describes. perhaps we have the wrong definition, perhaps you do.

perhaps a large part of the problem in this argument is that people see civic nationalism as something it isn't. some see it as racist, which it isn't. some people see it as a diversity lovefest, which it isn't.

>cutting taxes, slashing welfare
>people born in America are not American
>closing voting centers in big cities to save money
>giving grants to rural families that want to start a family
if these are defining features of municipal nationalism... why? what is the common thread? what basic principle would exclude someone that holds opposite views from claiming to be a city nationalist?

Would fugg these niggaboos.

w e w
unironically would racemix
easily 9.5/10 and definitely culturally compatible. in advance, let me just say: fuck off, nazi larpers

That pic was white nationalism in disguise, not really civic nationalism. It even has increasing the white population as a goal.

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Oh my god. In love in Ellicott City now.

Live not love

>civic nationalism will never wor-

niggers have no culture. Outside of crack.

> tfw NZ out jews the jews

It's retarded, that's for sure.

Civic nationalists would've been etheo nationalists if they didn't had a asian or latina fetish.

Societies work best in ethnostates. Societies that are multicultural usually fall or turn to shit. It is low-brow to have unequivocal hatred towards an entire race though.

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You can't eradicate communism without displacing the Jews.

>she photoshopped herself into the picture

its so cingeworthy and sad but its a qt Negress doing it instead of the typical NEET

Does a family exist indefinitely and create relationships that incorporate people?

Or do people form the relationships that make the family?

Civic nationalism is program/system that creates ideas and ideologies that forms relationships between people that have nothing to do with one another.
Ethnic nationalism focuses on the people and their already built relationships, disposing the relationshipless/social-outcasts.

Life and society should be like a good family; stronger with common blood, more understanding with common language, more cooperative with common tradition.

how about cultural nationalism?

that would be a better name than civic nationalism, it's still a lame idea though