Socialist Healthcare

I can understand Sup Forums being against more anarchistic elements of the Left. But why does Sup Forums despise lite socialist healthcare reform? It's not about destroying meritocracy, it's about the state acting as an altruistic entity with the health and welfare of all its citizens in mind. It is indeed another system that can potentially be exploited by those who seek unfair advantage, or seek to gain something for nothing. But these people have always existed and they are called the Jews.

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>That fat bastard

Oh yeah he's SOOO poor, isn't he?

Just look at all the memrobillia and merchandize that adorns his room: he could easily sell some of this crap and pay for his own health care, the greedy self-absorbed arsehole.

This fucking cunt makes $220,000 a YEAR on advertisements, and he's saying he can't afford healthcare?
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that fat fuck just has to lower his intake to 10.000 calories a day. Then he got Money left for his Assbleeding Pills

When you look at the total expenditure ( government + private) for healthcare as part of GDP, it,s clear the US system is extremely expensive compared to other developed economies, without better outcomes.

>he could easily sell some of this crap
>implying anyone would buy his crap

>state
>altruistic
with others money

fuck you, abogan monkey

The american healthcare system is so fucked up. Obamacare was the last nail in the coffin talking about out of control spending, that's how bad the law is.

Nationalized healthcare works fine here, it costs much less for the state since everything is standardized and benefits from huge scale economies. The thing is that you can even buy additional coverage and get private healthcare if you want to.
I have literally no complaint and healthcare isn't a life threatening concern here.

imo healthcare in the us should be decided at state level

$220,000 yr to act like a giant infant baby hughey. I made the wrong decisions in life.

>altruistic entity
It's easy being altruistic if you spend other people's money.

It's a fake tweet. Boogie is still a libcuck shill though

no, you didn't. if you are a mentally healthy male you would prefer killing yourself to the life this fat disgusting degenerate leads. he doesn't create anything of value. he could be a woman at this point.

You're not wrong. It just kills me that that gets you that much. I don't regret having a valuable skillset and being able to do real work. Or being able to see my dick.

First of all, not an expert, just a few thoughts on the issue

If America wants to make universal healthcare they need to first change their lifestyle, combined with a slow, gradual change towards a new system. As it is right now it would be a tremendous burden to make taxpayers take care of everybody that is in poor health and get little to nothing in return. It would therefore be better and less costly if people learned to care for themselves in order to prevent various problems to happen in the first place.

Secondly, to just get universal healthcare just like that would cause hell of a lot of instability, because people's lives have adopted to the system that is currently there. Imagine the turmoil of having to deal with such a sudden increase in taxes(for instance), this will turn your plans, investments and way of life upside down because you won't be able to afford to live the life you had since it was adopted around a system that no longer exists. This leads to an uncertain future until people figure things out but it will also lead to less investments in America due to said instability which in the long long will cause poverty.

An interesting side note, western countries with universial healthcare do to a large part rely on advancments made in USA(mainly). This is because of the competetive system of America which encourage research and discoveries to get an edge on your competition. These discoveries(such as medecine, equipments etc.) are bought and used in "socialist hospitals" to maintain a modern standard while also allowing us to let America do the work of constantly updating the medical sciences for us

Reminder that Boogie is Jewish.

If you can force me to pay for other people's healthcare, then I should be able to force other people to make healthier decisions. For example this is how education, fire prevention, and law enforcement work. I'll support socialized health care if you support mandated calorie restriction, exercise camps, and pre-natal genetic screenings

>it's about the state acting as an altruistic entity with the health and welfare of all its citizens in mind.

And where do they get the money? Oh that's right, they ROB CITIZENS AT GUNPOINT for the money. Is robbing people altruistic now?

I hope you meet a pack of altruistic niggers.

Fuck off Communist, I will drown your whole family the moment you lose power.

And Communist systems always collapse.

Doctors are not your property, other people's money is not your property.

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Dehydration.......goes into Hospital instead of drinking a glass of water

I just cant anymore

loooool

>Rich Piana died and this fuck's still alive

The US operates much differently than countries with socialized healthcare, for a start you can actually go to a hospital and see a doctor without waiting for 7 hours.

>dat autistic order of photos

legit hope he dies from that idiot surgery he's done

Only someone with autism would complain about that.

PAY

It's like he is taking huge breaths between the sentences.

People like him is the reason free healthcare is hated.
I mean the idea that goverment will help you out in sickness is truly great, but again there are those people who will basically drain all the resources available for that.
Welfare again is a great idea, i had a moments in my life when i could barely eat while searching for a job. In fact most people can't even leave their current shitty job just because they can't go on job search properly and leaving from job without a settled new one potentially can end very bad.
But again THOSE FUCKING PEOPLE will parasite on it from the day one and you will have to pay for a lazy biotrash.
Maybe welfare and healthcare should be strictly limited somehow.

Fuck off kike, there is nothing good about governments robbing citizens to destroy healthcare. Healthcare is better and cheaper in first world countries without Communist healthcare.

Because it subsidizes people's bad decisions while punishing others good decisions also as with anything the government touches costs spiral out of control where if you let the market compete you'd have better service at a cheaper price. The only part that government should have involvement in is the legislation of mandatory acceptance of pre existing conditions. Other than that, government needs to be involved in as few services as possible.

>Healthcare is better and cheaper
>no medical insurance
>lel die
>with medical insurance
>one tooth per year goyim or pay me 2000$

When healthcare becomes "free", people start going to doctors for everything they think is wrong with them. 30% increase in demand for healthcare overnight, meaning a drastic shift in supply and demand, meaning a drastic shift in pricing going up. Of course, now healthcare is no longer affordable with the budget and either taxes have to go up OR the government has to fix the prices. Taxes going up is very bad for the politicians in power, because it is a very visible action to take. Instead, they tell doctors "you can ask this much for this procedure". Price fixing. This means that the doctors are now property of the government, and healthcare is now rationed through TIME MANAGEMENT. The costs are lower, but now you have to wait with your serious problems until every half-baked retard who coughed gets examined for bullshit nothings. It also means that the doctors who are terrible make as much as the good doctors in the system. Many good doctors will start more expensive private clinics as people now have to pay both for OTHER PEOPLE'S healthcare as well as their own which is no longer covered, or these doctors will become lax since it no longer matters how well they do thanks to government assigned customers. This of course, is visible to the next generation of intelligent people thinking about becoming doctors. Intelligent people have options, and when given the choice between freedom and slavery, the best of them will choose freedom as it brings greater rewards. Now you have less quality doctors over time, with an increase in demand and cost, with a declining quality of the care in already in place, with ever-expanding waiting lines for simple treatments.

Would you go to North Korea, Cuba or Venezuela for healthcare? I don't think so. Socialist healthcare has been tried in dozens of countries and it always follows the exact same pattern. It doesn't work, it cannot work, because you don't own other people. It's that simple.

You don't have to take my word for it either, plenty of material online about this.

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>t's about the state acting as an altruistic entity with the health and welfare of all its citizens in mind.

Yeah. Using the money of its citizens. It's piss easy to be generous and kind when you're using wealth created by others. It's why the public sector here in the UK is so terrible and inefficient.

Based toothpaste

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>other developed nations

I wish this facade that Ameristan isn't a third world shithole would end.

This is common with people I know with medicaid. I'm paying $200 a month and I never go the doctors because it would just cost me more, but these fucks stroll into the emergency room every month because muh head muh stomach muh fever. Going to the doctors isn't pleasant anyway, why would go unless you need it?

>implying he doesn't have a retarded fanbase that would pay for his shit

>be me
>eat fruit salad every day
>still not fat

The problem is that you think money is infinite. You want to give free shit to useless people and expect everything will be fine.

You have to be very effeminated to believe in the equality meme.

Though, living in a comfortable 1st world country it makes sense the youth becomes drunk with joy.

I'm not against socialised healthcare, I'm just very aware of it's misfortunes.

I'm not against socialized healthcare, I'm just against enacting it without careful consideration of the consequences of it and doing so against the will of the people who will actually have to pay for it. But you know, fuck the rich and shit.

ALmost nobody I know can even admit that the resources of the planet that we live on are finite from an atomic perspective.

>Be American
>Go to the hospital because you forgot to drink water
Grease isn't a substitute for water, fat fuck.

>PLS SAVE ME I CANT DRINK WATER
>PAY MY HEALTHCARE

>what is the NHS