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Why do we hold Nazi Germany and Hitler in such high regard? Why not Imperial Germany and Bismarck?

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because hatred is more common than education

Second Reich>>>>Third

posting a bismarck redpill about us civil war and the jews:

>I know of absolute certainty, that the division of the United States into federations of equal force was decided long before the Civil War by the high financial powers of Europe. These bankers were afraid that the United States, if they remained in one block and as one nation, would attain economic and financial independence, which would upset their financial domination over Europe and the world. Of course, in the "inner circle" of Finance, the voice of the Rothschilds prevailed. They saw an opportunity for prodigious booty if they could substitute two feeble democracies, burdened with debt to the financiers, . . . in place of a vigorous Republic sufficient unto herself. Therefore, they sent their emissaries into the field to exploit the question of slavery and to drive a wedge between the two parts of the Union. . . . The rupture between the North and the South became inevitable; the masters of European finance employed all their forces to bring it about and to turn it to their advantage

German militarism has been a mistake and a cancer on Europe since its inception. Frederick caused the Seven Years War by annexing Silesia, Bismark the Franco-Prussian War, the Kaiser the First World War, Hitler the Second World War by occupying the Rhineland, invading Czechoslovakia, and invading Poland. There is absolutely nothing worth glorifying in it and there never has been.

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Blue pill overdose!

France attacked Prussia you mong. And Germany didn't start the First World War

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What do you think the room smelled like at thus moment

>men wearing fetish clothing
no thank you.

Bismarck created the modern welfare state. I'm all for kicking french ass but i can't let that one slide.

Europe was already constantly at war before Germany. The other Great Nations did the same things without Germany.
That it ended up in world wars is because of technical and economic progression which made warfare more long-lasting and sustaining.

Gee I sure wonder why France attacked Prussia, it's not as if they had been baited into it by the political and diplomatic scheming of the Chancellor of a nation which had attacked Austria then Denmark a couple of years prior and now sought hegemony over Spain as well.

>holding gercuks in high regard
>ever
you really like to side with losers and weaklings

The Prussia of that time also made the prototype for the european union (Zollverein).

I said "caused," I did not say "declared war on." Prussia deliberately provoked that war.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ems_Dispatch

As for Germany's starting the First World War, yes, it did: first with the Austrian ultimatum, which had the sanction of Berlin, secondly by disgracefully invading the sovereign and neutral country of Belgium, which Britain had guaranteed.

He literally published his twitter DMs. There is no way to blame Germany for this. France attacked because Napooleon was a failed faggot.

Papism.

>muh self depreciation

Because Hitler is le badass who killed le kikes (but not really, but it'd be cool if he did)

This is now a fascist thread. Here are books on fascism

Stanley Payne A History of Fascism 1914-1945
Robert O. Paxton The Anatomy of Fascism
Walter Laqueur Fascism: Past, Present, Future
Roger Griffin Modernism and Fascism
Kevin Passmore Fascism: A very short introduction
John Pollard The Fascist Experience in Italy
Michael Mann Fascists
A. James Gregor Mussolini's Intellectuals
Daniel Woodley Fascism and Political Theory
Philosophy
Julius Evola Revolt Against the Modern World
Men Among the Ruins
Rene Guenon The Crisis of the Modern World
Oswald Spengler The Decline of the West
The hour of decision
Bertrand de Jouvenel On power, its nature and the history of its growth
Thomas Carlyle Heroes and Hero Worship
Gustav Le Bon The Crowd: A Study of the Popular Mind
José Ortega y Gasset The Revolt of the Masses
Francis Parkey Yockey Imperium: The Philosophy of History and Pltcs
Multiple authors Culture Matters: How Values Shape Human Progress
Giovanni Gentle The Philosophic Basis of Fascism
Alfredo Rocco The Political Doctrine of Fascism
Georges Sorel Reflections on Violence
Nicholo Machiavelli The Prince
Alexander Dugin The Fourth Political Theory
Sir Oswald Mosley A National Policy
Lawrence Dennis The Coming of American Fascism
Arthur J. Penty Post Industrialism
Guilds, trade and agriculture
Ezra Pound The ABC of Economics
Orthodox Fascism

Study Oswald Mosley, Giovani Gentile, Benito Mussolini, Strausser, and make sure to subscribe to Cultured Thug and Marshal Ironsides on youtube!

STRENGTH AND HONOR COMRADES
>tfw using stolen copypasta

After the unlawful disbanding of the Holy Roman Empire all those belonged to in the first place and France spending years vying for control over the areas best suited to launch a new invasion from. Just fuck yourself Sabbatean cur.

>Prussia deliberately provoked that war
Kekekek. You find a way to blame everything on Germany. Don't want war? Don't attack.

>starting the First World War, yes, it did: first with the Austrian ultimatum, which had the sanction of Berlin
Same shit. You can't just say: They didn't but I blame them anyways.

This by the by is what the great Sir Oswald Mosley had to say about Adolf Hitler: "I blame both Jews and Hitler for the Second World War: Hitler for driving east, before he had got a diplomatic arrangement with us; Jews, for gradually persuading us, or the British people or government, to do absurd things which were bound to result in war. I was against both mistakes."

youtube.com/watch?v=HNhF28fzN9I

>Don't want war? Don't attack.

If only three hundred years of bloodshed could have taught your nation that lesson.

>The Herero
>Belgium
>Poland
Britain's "guarantees" sure tend to come at inopportune times since Rothschild bought your royalty.

And even then, I read your link - says there they came barging in making demands on threat of war. Fucking Frenchies very literally asked for it.

>Not talking about the glory of Merkel's 4th Reich

>imperial
>not nat-soc
I like it when the government aggressively supports small business, military training for large portions of the male population, and traditional home values.
Imperialism is a waste of resources and you don't get to vote in most cases.

>since Rothschild bought your royalty

You would rather tell yourself fairy stories than manfully face what is true. The story about Rothschild "buying the British Empire" after Waterloo was invented in a political pamphlet written in 1847, and is a complete and utter work of fiction.

independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/the-rothschild-libel-why-has-it-taken-200-years-for-an-anti-semitic-slur-that-emerged-from-the-10216101.html

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We didn't have colonies. We just had Schutzgebiete and they were bought by private businessmen.

And your nation? Britain has participated in more wars than Prussia and Germany and so has France? A lot of European countries have gone to war more than Germany, in fact Germany has often been the battleground for armies passing through to each other from east to west. Why hasn't Britain learnt its lesson about causing bloodshed? Why do you think your nation is so blameless when it comes to starting, aggravating or prolonging wars?

The British Empire maintained peace in Europe for a hundred years. It is a period known in history as the Pax Britannica.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pax_Britannica

>Independent
>Literally owned by KGB intelligentsia
Yeah, there's no way those would lie to you I'm sure. All that oy-veying about how Jews totally don't act the way they are commanded in the Talmud sure convinces me.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Lebedev

>not knowing "Nazi" is a slang term, insulting members of the NSDAP

cant blame you tho, all of Sup Forums is just as fucking ignorant

big wars in europe were always about preventing a balance of power. germany being the new big boy in town wanted more instead of being good boys and prospering through economics. they wanted more land in europe and europe is sacred this isn't like some shit colonial land.

The Zollverein was only between the different German states tough to strengthen cooperation between Germans no matter which state or kingdom etc. they lived in and speed up unification.
>Welfare State
He supported social reforms for the elderly like pensions. What the hell is wrong with that? NS Germany's 'socialist' foundation was built upon Bismarck's Prussian socialism. Do you consider Hitlerian Germany to also have been a 'welfare state' ?

So, much like the britfags and the Hudson Bay Co and the whole Raj business then?

The eternal kraut same-same as the eternal anglo?

pax britannica is a meme btw. just brits larping as hegemons when it never was the case.

Argumentum ad hominem.

I don't know about anglo sheming. Fact is the complaints about colonialism the guy I replied to had are false

Bier und schnitzel furzen.

Cause it was a pretry typical European empire, nothing really unique

>we
no one holds the losers in high regard other than the losers themselves

Oh fuck off with that britcuckoldery. You euros spread battlegrounds throughout the world during your PARPing pax, spread it to the Black Sea and Balkans, but you spread it.

Against genocidal Jewish radicals known for insidious brainwashing methods and owning people? You bet. Had your forebears had the same stones we'd both still have empires.

>Instead of prospering through economics
They didn't need to worry about that at all. By 1900 Germany had already eclipsed France in terms of its economy, empire and and all and was steadily catching up the Great Britain. Germany was the strongest military and economic power on the continent prior to WWI. To pretend that Belgium wasn't a piss poor excuse to destroy and economic rival on Britain's part is just disingenuous to say that Britain went to war with Germany in WWII to 'protect Polish independence'
>Maintain the peace in Europe
I can't even think of a period where Europe has gone without some kind of war for 50 years let alone 100 (Excluding time since 1945)
>Britain secures the peace
That's rich. Britain's entire modus operandi has been to constantly cause conflict and aggravation on the continent to stop Europe from uniting lest it pose a threat to your dainty island. Don't pretend Britain is some angle that just 'wants to keep the peace'. Britain is a shark in the water who flames the fires of conflict for its own ends (Not to say that's wrong but it is what it is).

>Why do we hold Nazi Germany and Hitler in such high regard?
Because in the end Sup Forums consists of a mob, which is easily motivated by big and emotional visions. And this mob is easily shaped by a proper propaganda and visuals

We are all leftists, there's no escaping that, even Sup Forums shows that. Conservative societies died in 1914. Fascism, NatSoc, Communism - those are all ideologies formed after the radicalism of the french revolution

Oh the Germans prospered through economics, lad. In 1914, their GDP passed the UK's. Sort of a critical event and moment, eh Pierre?

Germany was actually one of the more peaceful nations in Europe. France has always been a warmongering nation, especially during the 18th century.
But then you are a dumb Brit Bong who's country was at war with almost everyone for most of its history. You're the last to counsel anyone on that.

>more british education
Not even answering on your WW1 """""knowledge""""""

>Ems Dispatch
>Oh no, they used diplomacy to their advantage
>quick, let's chimp out

Of course we sought to defend ourselves against the tyranny of Philip, of Napoleon, of the Kaiser. What exactly do you think Britain ought to have done in history; permit tyrannical regimes that hated us for our liberties and religion to grow in power until they were strong enough to invade us? Our conduct has been more faultless than that of any European power in history.

As Conan Doyle remarks, the menacing tone of Germany was what led Britain to entangle herself in the entente, and the enemies of her enemy became of necessity her friends. "An aggressive policy on the part of France or Russia would be absolutely discountenanced by Britain, but if France were attacked Britain would pledge herself to do her utmost to prevent her from being overwhelmed. It was recognised that a victorious Germany would constitute a serious menace to the British Empire—a fact which neither the Pan-German fanatics nor the German national Press would ever permit us to forget."

>Conservative societies died in 1914.
Somewhat true.
In the sense of how a country should be ruled there are barely any conservative people around any more. But then, who could you make King or Kaiser when even the royals are totally cucked in these modern times.

>Tyranny of the Kaiser
Wow, you Brits never learn do you. Both the Kaiser and Hitler were notorious Anglophiles who desired an alliance with Great Britain but Britain just can't ever get over the fact that Germany's economic potential is much greater than that of Britain and that what the Americans observed as well which is why US political scientists observed that Germany and Russia would be their primary adversaries during the 20th Century completely leaving out France and Great Britain.
>Hated you for your liberties and religion
What the fuck is that George Bush tier American cuckservative speak. 'They hate our way of life' bullshit. Do you unironically think the Kaiser or Hitler hated Britain for its 'liberties' or its 'religion'.?

This is why I think that Europe is inevitably doomed. Once Europe descends into anarchy, civil war, chaos and bankruptcy, new natural leaders will have to emerge, a new aristocracy that could rule societies again

I know, but there's a lot of waste in imperlism systems. Taxes literally pay for the ruling classes life style. Public service is the easiest way to a wealthy life. Zero accountability as well.

>muh prussia
First Reich > Second Reich

I never check my sources - the post.

Sure, like if the british didn't constantly meddle in Europe throughout history.

>2nd Reich
>Agrees to help Austria fuck up Serbia and Russia because they were honorable to their word.
Okay. Understandable.
>Britain: Okay fags, have fun. Just stay out of Belgium since we're obligated to defend them. You understand this Germany because you're fighting due to contract with Austria.
>Germany invades Belgium anyway.
>USA: alright, you all have fun with your little war, I'm staying out of it but will sell you guys some guns, don't expect me to go and run a blockade for you though. Just don't go around fucking up my ships, I don't want any war of 1812 shit from any of you.
>Germany declares unrestricted submarine warfare.
>Germany then cries when the anglos start fighting them.
The eternal hun cries out in pain as he strikes you.

The true answer to this question is the lack of fashion and more importantly that there arent forces at work to remind you every 3.2 seconds that something besides nazis define germany.

>Once Europe descends into anarchy, civil war, chaos and bankruptcy, new natural leaders will have to emerge, a new aristocracy that could rule societies again
I don't think we will descend to these lows before a new aristocracy comes along. The next aristocracy will be the engineers of AIs and genetic optimisation. They will shape the future of Europe to a degree that no future politician can.

Who is this based Aussie goodposter?

>Gee I sure wonder why France attacked Prussia, it's not as if they had been baited into it by the political and diplomatic scheming of the Chancellor of a nation which had attacked Austria then Denmark a couple of years prior and now sought hegemony over Spain as well.
>Gee I sure wonder why Germany attacked Poland, it's not as if they had been baited into it by the political and diplomatic scheming of the governments of the nations having the strongest military and economy, the biggest empires and were already responsible for millions of dead people in their colonies, trying to gain as much hegemony over the planet as possible

Who is this based Aussie goodposter?
That would be me Deutschbro. I just don't like retarded 'logic' especially from Anglos. It gives us a bad name.