I have a theory and I wanted to know your thoughts.
I'm under the impression that people are getting too hooked to the instant gratification that the internet provides, which in turn is creating a society that wants change immediately and has no patience.
For example SJWs/Nazis or BLM/Alt-right have a real lack of patience. It seems like they're jumping to conclusions very quickly and have a real fear of the immediate future.
I get that there are concerns to address and change to be made, but i just see a link between this groups and being impatient like little brats.
Instant gratification
people have no patience anymore. they speak without thinking more than ever. technology makes them toxic and enables their worst aspects.
smartphones turned politically minded morons into bio drones that can be deployed at need.
it's a sad time to be alive.
Its the age of the brat. SJWs are clearly the worse, but i see it too in the alt-right. They get their knickers in a twist so quickly.
all smartphone heads are retarded.
If you want to deal with a normal person, find the ones without smartphones. It's not an iron rule but I have noticed a correlation between good conversation based on facts and the person not owning a phone or being on social media.
It's like the species has bifurcated. there was an article in the atlantic about how badly smartphones have fucked up the 25 and unders
theatlantic.com
Archived that archive.is
I also wonder if isntant gratification culture is giving an impulse to identity politics. People who are used to likes and so probably are more likely to believe that the inequity of outcome is unfair. The lack of patiente also plays a role, for sure, specially when you realized that all great rewards require really hard work and for a long time. We are not used to that and for sure the theory of redistribution of wealthy will be busted by this present generation of kids.
god's work user
as a 25 or under person i can agree with this completly
over the past year ive weeded out people by how much they use there smart phones
tl;dr
Congratulations britbro,you broke the case!
honestly yeah, that plays a huge role in our collapsing society
I believe that we could get women right without taking their rights away and treat em like property .
Its simple, raise em up like man, raise em up with the fact that ppl wont give them everything jsut because they hot and they have a vagina.
Which is unfortunately true and we men are the ones who enabled them to believe this by orbiting them like fucking betas. We need to teach the men also that orbiting is bad and detrimental to our mental health. What all of us need (esp women these days) are discipline and a realistic mindset.
But in that the media is a really big obstacle to overcome, which we cant manage to do now.
Women are a children because we've let them to. Men became pussies also because they have been raised in the wrong way.
And thats where SJWs nazis come in the way, and our need for instant gratification. The solution is again discipline, to look after ourselves and become real adults in the end.
Sorry if it turned out ot be too vague, and I shouldve written this in another "how we fix muh waman" but this thread , i hope , will be open for more serious discussions like this.
identity politics = veruca salt
If you can't read four sentences you are a dumb, fucking, nigger
it's that instant gratification. even four sentences is too much to handle. was that his point?
turned off flag so someone will notice me senpai
I don't think it's just internet but movies, books, and everything. Leftists seriously consider children's books to be sources of wisdom. They are stupid from all sorts of reasons and obviously are beyond hope of instructing or reasoning.
Sounds good
i agree but the speed at which they get confirmation of their ideas on social media is a big problem. that mixed with the endorphines from getting notifications. its a mix that is creating this veruca salt type personality. its snowballin
This post has resonated with me immensely, i think you're absolutely right.
Boring thread, moving on
It's a stupid theory. The principle driving the alt-right is a reaction to what has finally become an intolerable assault on European/ Western Society.
We will be minorities in our own homelands within 25 years. By 2042 we will no longer be in control of our own countries. The left meanwhile is driven by a manifest destiny styled fervor to become the dominant cultural, ethnic, and political force in every single one of our nations and functionally vanquish us.
This is literally the last chance. We will never recover from any situation where we are unable to act in our own collective interests with the levers of political and military power.
the theory obviously isn’t directed towards what they believe in and why. its more a comment on why parts of these groups start losing their shit. if trump lost and brexit didn’t happen then i’d understand the urgency a bit more, but i think its been magnified and its making parts of the right look as ridiculous as the left.
theres a reason these people are acting like this and its not just down to them being passionate about their cause.
> If Trump lost and Brexit didn't happen.
You don't seem to understand what's happening on those fronts: Absolutely nothing.
Trump's agenda is toothless because the Judiciary and Congress are not supporting it, and there is no political will to decisively navigate and resolve the Brexit scenario among any of the parties because they didn't expect it to succeed in the first place. Brexit mind you, was only voted for in the first place to keep out the immigrants. The UK, of course, is still bringing foreigners into the country, just from Pakistan instead of Poland.
These of course being the same Pakistanis who have literally been gang-raping British Children in almost every town in the country for 30 years and no one did or said anything because it was "racist" to stop them. The UK is a place now where a brown MP can say "Those White girls (the rape victims) need to shut up because they're hurting diversity" without reprisal while a white MP points out it's Pakis raping people and she loses her job.
p.s. Icing on the shit cake: Polygamist marriages are illegal to perform in the UK, but they're recognized as valid if the immigrant is from a country where they are valid, and therefore the Polygamist spouses are entitled to UK benefits. Collectively stacked in one household with multiple wives, this amounts to hundreds of thousands of pounds a year.
Europe, America, Australia, New Zealand, and Canada are absolutely fucked. Only Eastern Europe has a chance of survival at the present trajectory. It will literally take a Ukrainian style revolution in every single one of our countries to stop what's coming.
This. Awaken the normies.
No, the principle driving force behind the Alt-right is contrarianism. It's mainstream and acceptable to be supporting of socialism now, so these asshats LARP at being far right 'activists'.
>You don't seem to understand what's happening on those fronts: Absolutely nothing.
Exactly what im talking about. rome wasn't build in a day. brexit hasnt even happened yet and trump is working on getting the shit monkey off his back so he can actually get on with it.
im not denying theres a big shiticane we've got to get through, but to resort to identity politics and start using same tactics as the left is making it worse. i think its a trap that parts of the right are falling into
Nazism and Communism are the two most immature worldviews. Goes like this:
>Daddy and mommy will take care of the problems.
>The King and Queen will take care of the problems, they are the daddy and mommy of the nation!
>The Government is better than a selfish King and Queen because they really care about me! I am part of a big, democratic family!
Classical liberalism realized that millions had been killed because of humans insisting they can force their neighbor to abide by a certain morality. Humans have been in a constant struggle to seize the reigns of power so their personal morality can rule over others.
Classical liberalism said THE GOVERNMENT IS NOT YOUR PERSONAL ARMY.
The reason you morons love Nazism and Communism so much is because you have been soaked in Jewish, neo-Marxist propaganda your whole lives. You don't know the classical liberal tradition except as a caricature. Hence you are either neo-Marxists or you embrace what you think is the antithesis, Nazism.
Also, classical liberalism is perfectly compatible with nationalism and race realism.
Get a real education you goons.
Also children aren't ever allowed to fail or have any form of criticism given to them anymore. Especially if they are little shits.
imagine the quickest speed that things can change for the better, is too long before you resort to identity politics. then the identity politics halt things changing for the better.
if thats the case then you're part of the problem and not part of the solution.
Instant gratification and constant stimulation. Millennials are the digital natives who were raised with, and to a certain degree, raised by technology. Liberals caught on and hijacked the media. An entire generation brainwashed
Yea this is called materialism
Ted K. was right, we're becoming slaves to our own inventions that we thought would set us free.
It's more single motherhood and/or children raised in a daycare. They focus obsessively on acceptance by their peers, irrespective of whatever degeneracy they engage in.
Internet is a contributing factors.
Always been terrified of social media. Will never forget being in the library during exam time, and 90% of my peers on facebook.
Only if you're a hedonistic savage.
i agree and have been getting as many friends as i can and then forcing them to start being more disciplined and to look for the long term payoff instead.
unfortunately mobile games too good.
>p.s. Icing on the shit cake: Polygamist marriages are illegal to perform in the UK, but they're recognized as valid if the immigrant is from a country where they are valid, and therefore the Polygamist spouses are entitled to UK benefits. Collectively stacked in one household with multiple wives, this amounts to hundreds of thousands of pounds a year.
PATHETIC.
UK has let me down tremendously this year. I thought we were seeing something akin to the grandeur of the Magna Carta. Now they avoided electing a Chavez style commie by a cunt hair.
Brexit was a dead society's death throes.
this is getting creepy for me,
the other day I heard the 90's rock band Veruca Salt on the radio, I liked that band a lot back in the day and hadn't heard the song Seether in YEARS, that same day at the store someone mentioned willy wonka while talking to her kid about how stuffed he was from eating that was yesterday, within the span of 20 minutes,
now this picture
Hello aspie
>Muh patternicity
im sure jordan peterson could do a pretty good analysis of the metaphysics of willy wonka.
pretty sure he references the golden egg in stories like harry potter and princess and the frog.
dont turn into veruca salt. you have been warned
Daddy, I want a utopia NOW!
also her last name being salt, and she is whining and bitching cause she's butthurt
forshadowing for the new use of the term salty
I would agree, but I haven't seen or heard anything willy wonka in a few years, and when I was flipping radio stations and heard Seether, I stayed cause I thought it was weird they would be playing that song since I haven't heard Seether for YEARS on the radio. then the willy wonka reference 20 minutes later, I even told the lady about it.
As a human, you're better off assuming that rustle in the grass is a lion, and looking.
"Freak" events happen in random situations.
the instantly gratifying highs one gets when first exposed to the internet (joys of anonymity, joys of non-anonymity, getting likes and yous and upvotes, endless info/how-tos/porn, world of doxxing and exposures, quirky humor, people available at all times to chat etc) dwindle over time. that, and the fact that people spend so much time alone in their little bubbles, make it no wonder that so many are becoming impatient, irrational and unable to interact properly. it's really no different than narrow-minded junkies obsessed with getting a bigger fix.
can confirm that this is the problem I've been dealing with articulated in a sense to bring to reality my delusions.
browsing Sup Forums so much and thinking "habbenings" are gonna occur has led me to think theres some super villain heirarchy out there pulling strings I can't see.
We're in the disinformation age.
I agree, when you become jaded with the norm your subconscious addictions will direct you to something more extreme.
especially with getting rewarded by likes for producing more 'taboo' content which everyone is thirsty for. its like a viscous circle that snowballs to extreme/moronic views like identity politics
Discipline is a lost art
I'm giving (you) gratification for a post in a thread about how instant-gratification is bad.
>real fear of the immediate future
This is necessary in some cases, especially when we're talking about the changing ethnic demographics of Europe.
Example:
2001 - London was around 60% White British
2011 - London was 45% White British
2021 - London could be around 35% White British
In Sweden and Germany things are changing much faster because of refugees. Action needs to be taken sooner, not later.
i agree but bringing identity politics into it doesnt help. which is what some of the right are doing. those views will push people away. and thats the complete opposite of what we want to do. theres a lot of liberals out there that could be convinced that the problems we face are real. but not if its got taboo views attached to it. the impatience ruins the tactical game
It starts at home, m8.