I have reasons to believe there's a conspiracy between Sup Forums and Google...

I have reasons to believe there's a conspiracy between Sup Forums and Google. Here are a few things that raise mighty suspicion:

• Even though there are captcha alternatives, Sup Forums continues to use recaptcha, directly wiring posting information to Google. Google essentially knows what you posted and when you did it. Does Sup Forums not care about deanonymizing anons to 3rd parties? Ignoring the negatives by Sup Forums devs is a clear indication there's some cohooting with Google. Recaptcha is not an exclusive solution to thwart spamming.
• Webms don't get sound enabled sitewide because Youtube would lose quite a lot of views. No argument expressed against sound webms has been proven true, other imageboards are a clear example of this.
• Another clue to Youtube having unannounced preference is banning of Twitch on Sup Forums. Sup Forums admins have a clear stimulus to support Google services even at the expense of this very community.
• Mods are extreme leftards as proven by leaked logs, they only allow Sup Forums so Google could profile the users using recaptcha. Expect sjw witchhunts in the future and arm yourself.
• moot found himself employed at Google in mysterious circumstances. It's clear the conspiracy has been played out for years.

If you notice anything else, post it, would be nice to compile to redpill ourselves.

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Oh shit

theyre trapped in here with us desusenpai

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> 'lithuania' (not google)

sure buddy.

>Webms don't get sound enabled sitewide because Youtube would lose quite a lot of views. No argument expressed against sound webms has been proven true, other imageboards are a clear example of this.

the webm requirements are pretty strict and i have to wonder if it was a security decision or simply to discourage original content.

what was moots mothers occupation?

theres sound webms in places like

thats why I go to 0chan just in case

>Webms don't get sound enabled sitewide because Youtube would lose quite a lot of views
Yeah, that's surely why.

>still using Sup Forums

>Recaptcha

Sup Forums makes money with it. You fadgets are training google neural network while shitposting.

Moot literally works for google ever since he sold the site. I would not be shocked if there is a connection.

what the shit is moot doing at google now anyways

>Webms don't get sound enabled sitewide because Youtube would lose quite a lot of views.
Wut?
>Twitch is blocked cause of google.
No, cause of sjw, antifa mods.
Global-banned me yesterday for saying the n word in a channel (in a creative way)
>still using recaptcha and not original captcha
>still using Sup Forums and not being an infinityfag

I only ever visit half-chan because it has higher pph, so I'm not really bothered. If you are, use a vpn.

quit the wrongthink, Sup Forums has ssl

>Sup Forums has always been a honeypot for the F.B.I, C.I.A, ect. Moot sold us out in 2005. The only anons who knew about this at the time were banned, V&, or moved on. Sup Forums has never been, or will ever be safe and secure. Fucking newfags are the cancer thats killing Sup Forums.

this you faggots

use legacy captcha by the way.

plus it doesn't take half a fucking year just to type 2 words compared to clicking 50 squares since it never goddamn works the first two times.

>Lithuania
>VPN
Possibly security reasons but it's doubtful. Google has their hands in everything.. making root almost a requirement on Android phones. Even still the Google lock on phones guarantees they have a window into every phone from 2016 on.

Who the hell is moot. Some patreon dick?

>1st word is a test
>2nd word captcha doesnt know
so you're always supposed to type nigger for the 2nd word or sth

>>VPN

most are banned, as well as TOR exit nodes. put it together man...

>Possibly security reasons but it's doubtful.
it could be a little of both.

>making root almost a requirement on Android phones

it would be nice if they came with root access from the factory, but i don't think it's worth it to root them after the fact with third-party software.

they fixed that ages ago. forgot when but it's been at least a few years

By a pass with btc and a temp mailbox. Passposting bypasses the vpn checks

>anonymous
>on Sup Forums
Not possible unless you're behind a VPN but even that's extremely risky.
Then again this ain't the 90s internet anymore. Anything you do is being monitored and recorded.

I thought this was already obvious to everyone

>Does Sup Forums not care about deanonymizing anons to 3rd parties?
Moot never cared, why would gookmoot

well then they'd have my BTC address, but i guess they already do. and i'm not trying to make it MORE convenient for myself to post here. i need to leave, but it's hard getting out of a routine.

It's not to newkiddies who don't know to /internet/ apparently.
>inb4 someone gets grounded for posting the word "nigger" here.

lol ill fucking shoot sjws cause I'm in America

youtube.com/watch?v=Mcf9CLMQuRQ

If Sup Forums tried everything, everyone would leave to infinity chan. An image board that doesn't work with the government as a honepot and it would grow to replace Sup Forums.

Sup Forums is all user content. The community owns the website, not the other way around.

>> 'lithuania' (not google)
I feel this information is important enough to disseminate. My cause would be much less serious if I were to use a fake flag.
>the webm requirements are pretty strict and i have to wonder if it was a security decision or simply to discourage original content.
Technically speaking there's nothing about the format where inclusion of sound would have potential security risks. Security concerns were never used as an argument.
>simply to discourage original content.
A large part of OC produced on Sup Forums does get submitted to Youtube simply because audio is an integral part of audiovisual experience.

You should start wondering where are the developer priorities when it's easier to post a youtube link than to view a webm uploaded on /wsg/ from another board. Kicks you right in the almonds, doesn't it?

It only protects from intermediates (like ISP) seeing what specific page you're on or what you're sending. They can still see the domain. Google however gets whole package about you.

Legacy captcha or "original" captcha is an older unsupported v1 version of the same Google recaptcha service. It wires same information as the new annoying captcha. The only difference is what the user has to solve. Turning legacy captcha doesn't protect against spying.
developers.google.com/recaptcha/old/intro

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>they only allow Sup Forums so Google could profile the users using recaptcha

Is this also proven by leaked logs, and if so, can you post a link?

>community owns the website

Jim owns the site you mean

>implying captcha v1 is a growing brain network
no, with captcha v2 you directly contribute to google's new brain network, which studies the human extensively

>he still thinks it works

and Jim is a freemason who used to make pornography and he lives in a 3rd world country known for some pretty shady stuff

Flimsy theory at best, and I'll tell you specifically why.

>Even though there are captcha alternatives, Sup Forums continues to use recaptcha, directly wiring posting information to Google.
Are you a web developer or a programmer? Do you know the pros and cons of these alternatives? I'm not, but I don't think it's a huge stretch to assume Google's version is the best implementation.

>Google essentially knows what you posted and when you did it.
That's not what captcha does. You "connect" to Google while solving it and you're disconnected after solving it. You're not literally submitting your Sup Forums posts to Google servers.

I'm not saying they don't monitor this place. If you don't have NoScript / cookies properly set up, they're tracking your web history, but you don't literally upload your posts to Google.

>Webms don't get sound enabled sitewide because Youtube would lose quite a lot of views.
Literally retarded if you think a Chinese basket weaving website can match Google for online video hosting. Even if you decide to completely ignore bandwidth issues, you can't search for content on Sup Forums. You can't easily see "related" videos. You can't easily find content from the original creator. You can't switch between different video qualities.

>Another clue to Youtube having unannounced preference is banning of Twitch on Sup Forums.
They don't do this because Amazon is competing with YouTube. Twitch is banned because (1) you'd be flooded with Shareblue-tier plugs for autists' channels and (2) allowing Sup Forums to raid streams is obviously a bad idea.

If you wonder why YouTube videos are allowed while Twitch is banned, the most sensible reason is there's a lot more you can discuss from YouTube videos than Twitch streams. There's a lot more variety of content from YouTube. You could post links to video essays critically analyzing a series, or your favorite soundtracks, or a cutscene -- the list goes on. Twitch streams are just live Let's Plays.

character limit nu post

Your newfag is showing

gifted journalist detected

4chin is MSM center for a looong time now. "Anonymous" postings are joke. No place to hide. Just continue posting.

> what the shit is moot doing at google now anyways

Social media UX consulting and product design

>Mods are extreme leftards as proven by leaked logs
Never seen these so I looked into it -- the only leak I found was 2.5 years ago. I heard about lefties infiltrating Sup Forums mod spots and I think I saw decent evidence for that, but this actually isn't a big deal.

Posts and threads that are deleted by the mods still end up on the archive. Even if the mods are huge anti-Trumpers, what are they DOING wrong? I'm sure if there was rampant abuse, some turbo-autist would compile the evidence and post it here, and other autists would spam it too. I haven't seen any evidence and since you haven't mentioned any, I doubt you have either.

>moot found himself employed at Google in mysterious circumstances.
It doesn't seem "mysterious" to me. He created and for years maintained one of the most influential websites in the last decade.

Also, I'm probably gonna get shit for this but I really don't think moot would sell out Sup Forums. He was an autist himself. Some people create website to profit. He created the website when he was a teenager because he was an autist and wanted to talk about anime. Despite server costs kept going up, low ad sales, and legal issues, he kept the site up because he cared. You can go through his quotes and he talks about free speech all the time.

He obviously cares about free speech, but more importantly since he was an autist himself for years and he connected with other autists on here, I think he really cares.

Buy a pass.

>• Even though there are captcha alternatives, Sup Forums continues to use recaptcha, directly wiring posting information to Google. Google essentially knows what you posted and when you did it. Does Sup Forums not care about deanonymizing anons to 3rd parties? Ignoring the negatives by Sup Forums devs is a clear indication there's some cohooting with Google. Recaptcha is not an exclusive solution to thwart spamming.
Nothing to hide bitch

>• Webms don't get sound enabled sitewide because Youtube would lose quite a lot of views. No argument expressed against sound webms has been proven true, other imageboards are a clear example of this.
Imageboard, newfag

>• Another clue to Youtube having unannounced preference is banning of Twitch on Sup Forums. Sup Forums admins have a clear stimulus to support Google services even at the expense of this very community.
>• Mods are extreme leftards as proven by leaked logs, they only allow Sup Forums so Google could profile the users using recaptcha. Expect sjw witchhunts in the future and arm yourself.
Implying sjw can operate tech

>• moot found himself employed at Google in mysterious circumstances. It's clear the conspiracy has been played out for years.
He was weak. Fukushima is stronk

>If you notice anything else, post it, would be nice to compile to redpill ourselves.
Using fucking bullet points on an anime board

He is the founder of Sup Forums, newfag.

Or Sup Forums is a relic no one wants to fix because it's not broken and we should have invented our own alternative long ago if we wanted something different, but that would cost time and money.

spotted the real newfags

t. Google employee

>Are you a web developer or a programmer? Do you know the pros and cons of these alternatives? I'm not, but I don't think it's a huge stretch to assume Google's version is the best implementation.
It's important to understand that any captcha can be beaten by paying some pajeet to solve it for you. Thus there can't be any "best" implementation. The point is to filter out the majority of potential spammers. However anyone dedicated enough can't be stopped.
Other imageboards successfully use alternative server side captcha systems, that are similar to the legacy captcha, but without exposing the user to any 3rd party. Alternative captcha works in practice. You can find multiple projects on the internet.

>That's not what captcha does. You "connect" to Google while solving it and you're disconnected after solving it. You're not literally submitting your Sup Forums posts to Google servers.
Of course it's simplification, but the timestamp and IP information gotten from the captcha, the page a user is on and Google's indexing services is enough to pinpoint to exact posts a user has made across the whole website. It would be trivial to make it work that's why there's a high likelihood this is actually practised.

>Literally retarded if you think a Chinese basket weaving website can match Google for online video hosting. Even if you decide to completely ignore bandwidth issues, you can't search for content on Sup Forums. You can't easily see "related" videos. You can't easily find content from the original creator.
Videos up to 3MBs don't take much if at all bandwith to serve compared to what Youtube is doing, the filesize limit could even be halved with introduction of VP9. Even more in the future with AV1. However that doesn't mean the view count can't possibly be there. A strong community with its own set of distributed videos would run Youtube dry by actually sharing content and not holding it behind censorship, unlike Google.

I hate to say this but all of this is very suspicious.

>Nothing to hide bitch
This is always the argument used by cowards and idiots with nothing important to say.

the only people here are newfags, paid shills and the occasional raiders. pol is a battleground not a home base. We're all in other places or the deep web.

The mods have definitely become left-wing shit monkey recently just as is happening with google and youtube.

do you know how the internet works, you fucking moron?

>Nothing to hide bitch
They'll find something anyways or launch a smear campaign for the fact alone you browse this board or website. That has already happened so time to open your eyes.

>Implying sjw can operate tech
They are dumb enough to operate a hammer to your skull. So either wear a helmet or enter cyberwar.

>He was weak. Fukushima is stronk
Gookmoot is tech illiterate. Even then, there have been counts of him selling user information from other imageboards he has managed. He's no agent of virtue.

>Using fucking bullet points on an anime board
You'd probably like me to use redditspacing more, wouldn't you? You find that more readable, don't you?

>That's not what captcha does. You "connect" to Google while solving it and you're disconnected after solving it. You're not literally submitting your Sup Forums posts to Google servers.

let's assume you only had access to the times at which users submitted the captcha.

it expires in one minute, so you have at most a one minute margin of error. even in a fast-moving board like Sup Forums, the average time between posts in a certain thread is longer than one minute.

if someone makes more than one post per thread, you can further refine your guess if their second post is not surrounded by the same posters as the first. more posts, more info. it would be trivial to map posts to IP addresses just by knowing when they submitted the captcha.

BUMP!!!!

GOOGLE DISINFO SHILL
GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE FAGGOT

hey you stupidfag what's wrong being a newfag

and what's your point trashfag ?

and even this (very effective) process of elimination can still be improved if you can find a model for the time between captcha completion and post submission.

lol, I hope you are proud of yourself now you stupidfag

Dear god...

>We're all in other places or the deep web.
no stupidfag you are obviously here and posting

Reminder that pol is satire.

>moot
Literally who

You haven't been here when the captcha was turned of, have you, LARPer?

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>Gookmoot is tech illiterate. Even then, there have been counts of him selling user information from other imageboards he has managed. He's no agent of virtue.
Fuck! Your shit. You can't even read Nagasaki's simple game? Of course he sells our shit. He is the hero we deserve. Everyone who doesn't expect this is a fucking fedora tier whiteknight

have a bump

Lay the booze and sober yourself first.

I have wondered about the connections, especially with moot being a litteral cuck and he ended up working at google, which is now the biggest echo chamber to have ever existed.

>I heard about lefties infiltrating Sup Forums mod spots and I think I saw decent evidence for that, but this actually isn't a big deal.

It may be safe to assume that the mods responsible for implementing larpflags instead of only allowing geoflags did not have Sup Forums's best interests in mind.

The new flags only serve as cover for trolls and shills. The quality of posts on Sup Forums has dropped noticeably ever since they were reintroduced.

Dont bump your own unfunny thread, infidel jew

>it expires in one minute, so you have at most a one minute margin of error.

*two minute, but whatever.

Daily reminder to use ad nauseam to confuse Google's AI and defraud their ad buyers to erode public trust in google.

>Technically speaking there's nothing about the format where inclusion of sound would have potential security risks. Security concerns were never used as an argument.

maybe not sound just by itself, but making the format as simple and specific as possible would probably make it easier to check the files validity.

but i do agree, it's probably just to make it as annoying as fucking possible to post content.

I hope these are satirical posts. I gave you clear and specific rebuttals to OP's points. If you disagree with me, please explain why instead of just screaming shill.

>It's important to understand that any captcha can be beaten by paying some pajeet to solve it for you. Thus there can't be any "best" implementation. The point is to filter out the majority of potential spammers.
Yes, the goal of Captcha is to prevent spam, but since neither of us are developers, we don't know all the facets of implementation. Maybe there are compatibility issues, or problems when you scale to a certain number or users, or something else. It could be a technical issue.

To me, the more likely explanation for the continued use of Google's Captcha system is basically laziness. After moot added Captcha years ago, spam went down a lot, the site got better, so he didn't really have any real reason to change anything. Maybe the Google Captcha was far and away the best one at the time.

He received a lot of emails, but you have to think he received very, very few asking him to switch to a different Captcha system. Same with Hiro.

>Of course it's simplification, but the timestamp and IP information gotten from the captcha, the page a user is on and Google's indexing services is enough to pinpoint to exact posts a user has made across the whole website.
This is possible, but not as robust as you make it out to be, since IP addresses are not shown on Sup Forums. Rarer flags, like yours, are much easier to track than ones like mine. Timestamps can be fairly reliable, since most people hit Submit right after solving the Captcha.

People should look into the ways to anonymize yourself to Google (NoScript / cookie manipulation / browser spoofing, etc). I do agree with you that Google probably do some kind of logging on here. I disagree with you on its accuracy, but I do agree that they probably do try.

I appreciate you replying to my points.

character limit again

>As if this isn't part of our plan to shutdown google

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She was a genuine fuck-for-money Whore

>post is spam

i lied there are more, still readable

>However that doesn't mean the view count can't possibly be there. A strong community with its own set of distributed videos would run Youtube dry by actually sharing content and not holding it behind censorship, unlike Google.
This strikes me as naively optimistic. Even if there was a video hosting service that took a hardline stance on free speech, it would be a gargantuan task to attempt to disrupt YouTube. Not only does YouTube have billions of videos worth of content above its competitors, but it also has billions of dollars of infrastructure, plus the entire Google system behind it.

I could see a video site come up that takes a stand for free speech, but I can't see it ever beating out YouTube.

>webms don't have sound enabled on some boards
Sup Forums and Sup Forums don't get audio because we would be trolling each other with "screamers". That is why we can't have nice things.

>since most people hit Submit right after solving the Captcha.

even if you assume this difference in time is uniformly distributed within the captcha time limit you can still make incredibly accurate guesses. and that's without even assuming they have access to the site itself (likely) or analyze the post's content (also likely)

what do?

>This strikes me as naively optimistic.

what is bittorrent?

you could definitely build a decentralized p2p media platform and i'm pretty sure it's been attempted in the past.

>i'm pretty sure it's been attempted in the past.

see: vuze

Can someone tell me what this means. I was in a thread before and the guy was a known shill. It was obvious. I took a screenshot of this image and he threatened someone for posting it and told them to delete it. I think it may prove he was a shill, but I have no idea.

Here's a link to the thread.

>even if you assume this difference in time is uniformly distributed within the captcha time limit you can still make incredibly accurate guesses
It would depend on the information they have available.

All we know they have for certain is
1. Time of Captcha completion
2. IP address of Captcha user
3. Page where you completed your Captcha
4. Timestamps of Sup Forums posts
5. Flag of Sup Forums posts

I forgot that they'd know exactly which page you were on when you complete your Captcha, so their alleged system would be more accurate than I first thought.

Of course, there's some variance depending on the speed of the thread, but you're right that they could model a very accurate system with the information we know they have.

Again I have to stress for people reading this and that care, look into anonymizing yourself. Browser spoofers, NoScript, cookie manipulation and all that. Every bit helps.

Bittorrent isn't really a competitor to YouTube. I agree with you that there's nothing preventing the platform from being created. I just can't realistically see them ever gaining enough traction to upset YouTube's position.

Is this proof that the mods are part of it. Not that we needed proof but here it is I think.

It says ind.admin(flag.uk) next to his id and he threatened the first poster to delete it and when he didn't he stated it was photo shopped, then I posted the same image and he shut up about photoshop.

>his national imageboard doesn't support webms with sound

>Bittorrent isn't really a competitor to YouTube.

again, see vuze. something like that could be extended to do much of what youtube does with some effort.

You're posting the wrong version.

>I just can't realistically see them ever gaining enough traction to upset YouTube's position.

not when they get mysteriously bought out and change their licensing

In the early days of Sup Forums, we had a lot of pedophiles. The FBI gave moot a choice: go to jail as the admin of a pedophile website or help us fight sick fucks and give us full access to your datas.

Since 2006, the FBI have a clone of the server of Sup Forums, including the IP of the posters, and no data ever get deleted.