Is water a human right Sup Forums?

Is water a human right Sup Forums?

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It's so abundant that it doesn't matter. It's like air: who gives a shit whether or not it's a human right because everyone can access it anyway.

Clean water is a different question. If I go through the trouble of removing the AIDS from a bucket of water, I will charge you for it.

positive rights don't exist.

Considering that for you to clean the water, that water has to be taken out of the collective water, the question there goes, did you paid or replaced that collective water.

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has this fucker not heard of bottled water?

I thought this was monstrous until I learned about the situation in Africa. Africans will not pay unless their arms are twisted and water is precious in Africa. Privatised water will help Africa more than public water which, in Africa is always doomed to collapse.

Also the west takes a cut.

The only legitimate kind of border is a private property border. National "borders" are illegitimate. there is no contradiction leaf.

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>The only legitimate kind of border is a private property border
Hmmm, you seem to have forgotten to substantiate such a claim.

Fake! He said *free* water isn't a human right and indeed it isn't because otherwise WHY THE FUCK DO I KEEP GETTING BILLS FROM THE WATER COMPANY???

Fair point.

Are you going to use cohersion to force me into accepting that my land it's not mine commie?

This. Unless you live in a desert, water is practically inexhaustible.
>taken out of the collective water
Have you ever seen a river? There's no way you could drink it dry unless you were in a desert.

>government robs me of my tax dollars and buys land
>I shouldn't have a say in how that land is used and whom can access it
you're so close, hoppean libertarian white nationalism will come soon to you

dean kamen already cured water faguts

Nice spook

>water was not invented by humans
>water is natural
>humans need water to live
>food sources need water
>humans need food to live

Removing the 'right to water' removes the 'right to live'.

Someone's gotta pay for the pipes

Nothing is a human right.

While it's a human right for basic survival I think the best way to keep people from wasting it is to have them pay.
In America it's best off privatized while the rest of the world it's best off owned by the communities.

Are you going to make an argument?

>I'm going to act retarded in the hopes that someone will argue with me. I need attention!

I hope it's an act at least.

I have actually drinked plenty of river water, but up there in the mountains were it's as clean as it's going to naturally be.

Who?

Anyone who denies water is a human right is outright retarded.

You ancaps should be shot in every cavity of your body

>On August 30, 2012, Bulcke claimed that water is not a human right and should be privatized. He was quoted as saying ""If something isn't given a value, people tend to waste it. Water is our most useful resource, but those using it often don’t even cover the costs of its infrastructure. Fresh water is being massively overused at nature’s expense, but it seems only a global crisis will make us realise the importance of the issue. What is environmentally unsustainable today will become socially unsustainable in the future,"


Makes a decent point to me, I don't see why you couldn't claim ownership of water on your property or that you collect.

>Privatised water will help Africa
beign this cucked

>Clean water is a different question. If I go through the trouble of removing the AIDS from a bucket of water, I will charge you for it.
It tends to be undrinkable because it's polluted though, by the very same type of predatory 1%ers who claim it's not a human right & should be privatised.

Yes, people has a right to property cause it's implicit in the social contract, unless you don't believe in society in wich case we as society have no reason to listen to you.

has anyone else ever had ground water?

in 2nd grade we went to a landfill for a "study trip" and they had a pipe connected to a water supply, it tastes amazing

youtube.com/watch?v=w_pb6r8VNWk

bill burr talking about him

The only right people have is the right to die in this current day and age...

Rights exist if they are backed by force.

There's no such thing as human rights

I never said helping Africa helps us.

In your mind or in reality?

>Yes, people has a right to property cause it's implicit in the social contract
The social contract that ANCAPS completely reject, so what the fuck is the point you're even trying to make?

>Privatize water
>Enact Carbon tax for (((muh climate change)))
>Control entire life cycle
>Make everyone pay to live

Then why did the UN declare that human beings have human rights?

where do human rights exist?

How do you classify which water though? What if i collect rainwater? if a company owns the rain water do they pay damages in a storm? if i bore a well and start pumping water from an aquifer under my property how can you say that water isnt already mine?

Interesting thought. Eh, death certificates will be issued in about 10 years. The Jews will find a way to profit off a dead person.

This is how it works in most countries. If you own land and that land has water on it, you also own that water.
If you put land that has a lake in it, you own all the water in that lake. If you buy land that has a river flow over it, you own the water on that part of the river. You even own the right to have water flow through that river, so someone else cannot legally block the river upstream and deny you of water that would flow through it.

ANCAPS accept capitalism with their quirks and perks, cause money based economy relays on the concept of private property, unless you are talking about another ancap ideology.

How can a resource be a right?

"Human rights" as a political term has lost its impactfulness if not its meaning at all. Many claim absolute bullshit to fall within the scope of human rights, denigrating them to a gibsmedat veil.

Water should be dubbed a human necessity - it is something you must not deny to a fellow human (note murderous sandnigger actively trying to kill you might be an exception for obvious reasons).

That is why have a codex of morality: you may not be morally entitled for a sex-change operation, but putting a money barrier on a free-flowing spring, on water currents both on the surface and beneath it, on water meant for drinking and bathing in general, is morally corrupt by anyone's standards, be it an AnCap or a Turbocommie.

Everyone except this white Jew. That Nestle chairman should neck himself at the nearest lamppost

>durrrr where do my rights as an American exist?
In your constitution. Want to know where your human rights come from? The UN human rights declaration, unless your country happened to sign the Cairo declaration of human rights :^).

so they can be justified in regime changing any state who goes against their wishes

Positive rights do exist, but they shouldn't. Having a right to a good or service means you have a right to somebody's labor, and having a right to someone's labor removes others' rights to their own agency and freedom.

Water should be privatized to the extent that people can own access to the resource, just as people own access to any other resource. That doesn't stop others from buying/obtaining the resource on their own and undercutting their competition. The Nestle chairman is essentially making a statement in support of the free market.

>why did the UN say you have human rights?
>mumble mumble I don't have human rights mumble mumble mumble UN literally Hitler mumble mumble

>has anyone else ever had ground water?
I have sampled all the various types of water.

If it was, then (((their))) friends would be able to pump hormones in that shit to "fight toxic masculinity and racism." All they would need to do to get the bill past is to give some shekels to salon and a couple of dindus and they would all just blindly give it support then the bill would be signed in. It'd make it to easy for (((them))) to distribute it in white neighborhoods making more good goys and they'd purify it in Israel.

This

because you don't want water that has nigger shit floating in it

>legally block the river upstream and deny you of water that would flow through it.

Well that would suck.

It does make sense to distribute water in a private ownership model, it forces people to conserve the recourse especially atomistic people living in a consumerist society.

Water is already privatized. Every time you open a faucet, they're charging you for it.

you are impeding the flow of water, that water would leave your property if you don't capture it. literally detaining it against it's will.

>Man jailed for collecting rainwater in illegal reservoirs on his property

foxnews.com/real-estate/2012/08/16/man-jailed-for-collecting-rainwater-in-illegal-reservoirs-on-his-property.html

neither do negative rights

Is food a human right? Privatize and maybe we'll see cheap as fuck water. Fucking retards.

Rights exist in a negative way. You don't have the right to water, but you do have the write to own water.

I'm stealing this.

>the market solves everything

*right* FML - It has been a long day.

we all need and do pay for our lives, but to whom is the question here.
We pay it if anything in struggle.

But when a man in his arrogance attempts to pedestal him self as an god like authority upon whom lives of other are dependent, that is when i call for immediate impalement

>There's no such thing as human rights
In that case there's no such thing as the rights of the ceo of nestle, so everyone is free to drink whatever water they want to.

It's a right in many countries.

This man should be shot.

and for those that did not crack this simple puzzle.
no one is to be charged for natural resource, of any kind. what they are charged for is delivery and processing of that resource.

it taste amazing right? spring water came close though

>Food is a human right
Why doesn't the government run breadlines

Food isn't a human right though.

fucking jews

It is in some countries.

Self preservation is.

How do you expect humans to self preserve if they don't eat or drink?

Where? Venezuela? How's that going?

If you take someone prisoner and refuse to give them water haven't you violated the NAP?

I can't wait until they start charging for sunlight and oxygen

>not knowing we're actually 78% Gatorade™

It's my right here in right wing capitalist Ireland. If I ever have no money the government will give me money for food.

It's rich in minerals I believe, yeah it tasted breddy gud.

who gives a fuck, whos gonna charge you for violating it.

>Something that costs pennies a gallon is privatized
>Given out free by every single business out there
OH NO ITS PRIVATIZED. Also food is privatized yet most people in the 1st world manage to eat every day.

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You're missing something. SELF preservation, if a gov't forces people to provide for you than it is no longer SELF preservation

That's a product of right to life. If someone is deprived of the capacity to gather their own food (such as when they're imprisoned), they have a right to food because the food serves their right to life.

I'd like to see these rights in writing. A right to water and a right to access water aren't the same thing.

For the record, I actually live in a large, desert area. Because of the nature of the environment, there is enough water to go around, but it has to be managed appropriately to avoid going to waste and reaching all the useful areas.

The current mechanism for it works like this:
>Buy land
>Optionally buy water rights (or shares) which entitle you to water for use with said land
>Water is delivered via large canals from a hydroelectric dam
>Dam upkeep is paid for via electricity and property taxes
>You will own these water rights forever as long as you pay your property tax (~0.7% of property value annually in my area)

A more private system could exist, but this is really quite efficient as far as governments are concerned. I don't see a lot of ways a privately owned company would do it any differently.

Nestle would prefer to sell it by volume, which always works out to be far more expensive than the system I described because of the metering necessary. Despite less accurate measurements, the system I described is profitable, functional, and self-sustaining. Everyone involved has a vested interest to keep it working as-is.

water should be banned and replaced with soy milk.
each soy milk canister will have an ad for your daily intake.
drink your soy up and then check out blacked.com

Water isn't a right anywhere. You pay for that water bill.

Homeless Irish families stay in hotel rooms. They even complain about it.

That's rich considering Nestle puts salt in their bottled water to make you thirstier and buy more.

>It tends to be undrinkable because it's polluted though, by the very same type of predatory 1%ers who claim it's not a human right & should be privatised.
It was undrinkable back in the middle ages too before there were chemicals to dump in water. Shit's always dirty.

Why not?

>Homeless Irish families stay in hotel rooms.
Show me this right to shelter in Ireland. In writing I mean.

Because that would imply any piece of food on this planet is your for the taking because it's your right to food, food in it's entirety.

Access to food is different. I'll drop your ass in a farmer's market: there's your access now you better have the money or you're probably going to starve.

It's a right here. During our recession they tried to privatise it and it collapsed. Clean drinking water piped to my legally built home is my RIGHT. Of course taxes apply to having a home so you could say I'm paying for it anyway.

If they have a shitty product and everybody knows it, make a better product and put them out of business.

I'm looking at a bottle of Kirkland bottled water right now from Costco

INGREDIENTS: Purified Water, Potassium Bicarbonate, Sodium Bicarbonate, Calcium Citrate, Sodium Chloride, and Magnesium Oxide

Feels good to live in an ethnically homogenous mildly socialist state.

With that ingredient list they could have pulled that water from the great salt lake. Are you sure you're not drinking straight brine?