Why is it okay to include Nazi imagery, logos and other iconography in Western media?
The US and the FREE WORLD fought a war to bring down fascism, yet such racism and political idiocy continued even in 1945 + 72.
What gives? Why is Sup Forums okay with this? You guys are supposed to be all about freedom and American values, yeah? What is American about this shite?
America is a Jewish puppet state and the Nazis were the worst thing to ever happen to whites. Fuck both of you.
>not realizing that the German state was the only country with the will and the way to eventually establish an authoritarian European superstate capable of challenging both American liberalism and the Asiatic hordes.
DECAF user.
Fascism wasn't the great enemy we were lead to believe it was, Bolshevism is far more dangerous.
In what universe? Hitler was an incompetent war leader and ironically the greatest gift the Jews have ever been given.
>posts vidya
thawed thoughts by user
And don't post again until you are done reading.
Yeah, he failed, but what about Churchill? He sold his country (and with it all of Western Europe) to the United States when he refused to acknowledge defeat at the hands of Germany.
Do you think America would not have taken advantage of European factionalism and established hegemony if Hitler never came to power?
>Shit tier game
Op, you speak of freedom but wish to restrict the freedom to use Nazi imagery? How do you rationalize this in your mind?
So you've basically said that America and the Jewish bankers would've come to power anyways? Hitler was a tool that was too dumb to know he was being used.
They would have come to power had his mother aborted him, yes.
The point is, America was destined to become the leader of the Western world if there was no united Europe to contest it. I don't buy the whole "Hitler was part of the plan" stuff. The guy obviously made mistakes and was still adherent to the petty nationalism of the time, but he was poised to exert a degree of control over the European continent far greater than the USSR ever did following WW2.
He was "part of the plan" as far as being allowed to get as far as he did, not that he was in on it. If France and the UK would've declared war when Hitler remilitarized the Rheinland, the Nazis would've been crushed. But no, and Hitler kept gaining more and more territory piecemeal. The declaration of war came after he invaded Poland, which was also simultaneously invaded by the USSR, yet no war was declared against the Soviets. Why?
Addendum:
Hitler was allowed to get as far as he did because The West was moving towards globalization, and Hitler's nationalist philosophy was directly opposed to such a thing. The Western powers knew the more Hitler gained, the more things they could use against him. 4D chess.
>which was also simultaneously invaded by the USSR
Nope, invasion started on Sep 17, UK was at war with Germany since Sep 1. Big distinction.
It's hypocritical, of course, but the Western Allies were already at war with Germany. It doesn't take a jewish plot to make sense their tolerance to Soviet aggression in the face of actual war with Germany.
Globalization in what sense of the word? League of Nations on steroids?
The jews want international socialism, if they keep pushing socialism we will become socialists, national socialists. Same shit happened during the Weimar.
You do realize there is a big possibility you are trying to argue with a jew or a leaf right now, right?
If you want a trip, look of the platforms of the Socialist and communist parties of USA from early 20th century, 1932 and 1936 specifically and notice how their rhetoric has now been incorporated into our mainstream political vocabulary.
Im giving the benefit of the doubt finbro, but I'm losing hope. The crassness is quite characteristic of
Honestly, if a person is using fake flag but tries to argue with you it's better to just dismiss it as a shill. Why would anyone, who wants their point taken seriously, not use their own flag? That's how I see it, at least
The Allies were worried the Soviets would team up with the Germans, and the Soviets were worried Germany would team up with the Allies against them.
The point remains, the Nazis war was ultimately futile, as America would've become the hegemon anyways, you said it yourself. It cost millions of white lives, and tarnished the ideals of nationalism to this very day. Nobody had anything to gain from the war except the Jewish bankers, who were financing all sides.
Hitler's lust for power was his undoing. He expanded too far, too fast. Meanwhile, The West has slowly slipped into utter and complete decay. One thing the Soviets understood was that completely destroying a nation was a slow, generational process.
Cultural Marxism pushed by the Frankfurt school, they did it by infiltrating academia and ostracizing conservatives, this was called the long march.
They need to be purged from these positions if anything is to ever change. Our universities are churning out communists. This is why the right wing is growing fast, people are realizing this, a war or something is inevitable.
>Attempting to form an ethno state is the worst thing you can do as an ethno nationalist
Kys
>he's talking shit on Nazis so he must be a jew or a leaf
This is why you idiots lose. You rely on the symbols of the losers. Nazi symbolism is too taboo. We need new symbols, new flags to rally around. The stigma of Nazism is too ingrained in The West to be effective en masse.
Thats a custom emblem you dumb faggot
> You're suppose to be about freedom
> So why do you do things that offend me?
kys
White nationalism is taboo, autist.
>what is the EU
The post.
No shit, spergie. That's why using symbols of muh white nationalist paradise is terrible optics and is not going to get enough people on our side.
US also fought wars against fucking commies, and yet you people wave commie flags like you want everyone in the fucking world to starve to death and you also want Isis to behead everyone
>Why is it okay to include Nazi imagery
>You guys are supposed to be all about freedom
What's not to understand?
On you side for what? What's the point of bringing people over if it costs you the white nationalism?
nazis in ww1...you people truly are retarded
>doesn't understand why the nation of freedom allows people the freedom to display nazi imagery
ironically kill yourself
GET THE FUCK IN HERE FAGGOTS
How is it not okay to include any fucking imagery you oversensitive piece of living breathing garbage?
I said a no-nazi timeline would have brought us roughly to where we are today. You're misinterpreting what I said.
Europe divided as in both 1914 and 1939 would have been overwhelmed by the USA no matter what. However, a hegemonic power within Europe commanding, from a European capitol, the combined wealth and population of the continent along with colonial holdings would have overwhelmed the United States.
I agree with you on the fact that the United States (((ruling class))) (and the USSR) was hellbent on crushing Europe.
Are you arguing resistance was futile and that Liberalism would have just dissipated if not for Hitler?
Look how many whites are marching with Antifa and saying #BlackLivesMatter. If there's anything these last few weeks have shown us, it's that the numbers aren't there. You cannot hope to turn those whites towards ethnonationalism using Nazi symbols. The idea of purging them isn't realistic either, because 1. The numbers, and 2. The cops are not on our side.
>nigger with British helmet and puttees has nazi insigna on him
What did they mean by this?
>The US and the FREE WORLD
two domains that are quite separate indeed
>fought a war to bring down fascism
this is what people believe. On a politically educated board.
signing off fuck this shit
What's your point? You've gone from "get rid of white nationalism to bring more people to our side" to "whites are cucked and we can't hope to pull any numbers". Get your story straight, senpai.
I never said get rid of white nationalism, I said get rid of Nazi symbolism. If you honestly think you're going to entice more whites using Nazi regalia, you must be an abbo.
His whole uniform looks british.
Maybe it's a shittily made mod or photoshop
So you think that people will find white nationalism more palatable if you don't look like a white nationalist? People don't dislike the swastika because of its shape, it's because it stands for white nationalism and anti jew. There's going to come a point where someone is gonna ask you why exactly you've denounced natsocs and either you're gonna have to cuck on your views or be a libertarian autist.
The EU is full of internationalist cucks. I'm talking an EU of Mosleys.
Honestly id be a libertarian that supports borders, if Europe and all white homelands where not under siege. I fell America being a melting pot only applies if whites have a homeland somewhere, how can whites in america support a "melting pot" if we our ancestral homelands in Europe over-run by immigration.
I blame Socialism and Jews 100% , we wouldn't have so many immigrants if jews didnt push so hard to let them in. And we wouldn't be in this situation if people didnt want welfare. People dont have enough kids then expect the welfare state to take care of them, especially when they get older. Well since they didnt have enough kids, yet still want their gibs , they want foreign to come in replace us and take care of them by working and fueling this welfare state. Its insane and its the single most destructive thing the west has ever encountered, as it turns us on each other, destroys our freedoms and shits on our history absolutely destroys the meaning of a dollar. And to think it was all thought up by jews.
Jews think the immigration will dilute and destroy our races and cultures, they think the muslims will become materialistic and will become athiests, and that whites will roll over and capitualte. Instead we are seeing Islam in the west become more radical, isntead of working they themselves are living off the welfare state. Whites are starting to wake up and become far more right wing, the Jewish plan is crumbling, and they are going nuts its clear to see in the MSM.
Just answer my question. Are you for or against white nationalism? You can't claim to be white nationalist while at the same time shit on another group that shares your ideas.
I support white nationalism, i recognize it is not the same thing as white supremacy, nor do i shit on these groups. We as white need to have some kind of ethnic guarantee. I think i remember reading somewhere where the Mexicans have a "ethnic guarantee" some how written into law, claiming that mexico is to always remain Mexican majority nation. Idk if this is true but if it is this is what whites need in European nations at the very least.
>You can't claim to be white nationalist while at the same time shit on another group that shares your ideas.
You sure as shit can. If their strategy is bad, it needs to be corrected. Good luck convincing or persuading anybody of the values of ethnonationalism using symbols associated with genocide. Justified or not, it's bad optics.
No worries. I don't expect everyone to be natsoc, I just don't like the people who seem to think that throwing the swastika under the bus is going to bring the normies around.
You pandering to the wrong people. Which demographic are you targeting that is going to albe all about white identity and the jq, but be turned away by a swastika?
>I wanted to save the white race but then I saw a swastika so I guess I'll just accept my fate.
what are you fuckin' retarded?
stop posting on this board until you've lurked at least 6 months ya fuckin retard
jesus christ
It's not about pandering, it's about turning and convincing. You have to make it palatable. That doesn't mean compromising on your beliefs, it means you need different packaging. Realistically, you're not going to appeal to the larger crowd using the swastika.
Rareflag
And you're not gonna make it compatible without compromising on your beliefs. People aren't going to suddenly be open to white nationalism because youve denounced Nazis.
So again, what demographic is it that you're trying to appeal to that is all about nazi like ideas, but scared of a swastika?
Unless you get rid of the swastika, you're fucked m8. There's whites who are on the fence that are going to shy away from it because of the association with Nazis. If you can't disassociate white nationalism from the swastika, then the entire movement is fucked. If you can't see why this is a problem, then you're doubly fucked.
You've already said this and I asked who is it that is going to be open to nationalist ideas jbut scarred of swastikas?
>forward slade paul forward slash
>about freedom and American values
lul, this has to be satire. If serious please fuck off and don't post until you've lurked for at least 2 years, or just go back to rebbit since it's more your speed. OP proving why he's a giant faggot as always