CHRISTIAN THREAD

atheists welcome to accept Christ. We will debate you.

Fuck off Buzznigger you traitorous Malaysian faggot

Why are you so obsessed with what other people do with their time?

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>jew on a stick

Judging from what I've seen, in my opinion barely any are really Orthodox. They just say they are because they think the Orthodox aesthetic is cool.

We want them to be saved. You don't honestly want to be punished for your sins for all eternity?

Why does the bible present a flawed creation story
>inb4 it's a metaphor
explain this metaphor to me

What do you think is flawed about it, and to what are you comparing it?

Non-Christians on Sup Forums think Orthodoxy looks "cool" because it has the Babylonian aesthetics and the name "orthodox". They still don't care about the Bible...

What did I do? I have never killed nor stolen, and I try to stay out of other people's business generally

Hello again party people

>tfw you've been saved
It's like i'm always comfy deep down inside. Come, everything will be forgiven. The lord loves you.

Simple.

We want more people like us in heaven for eternity.

get fucked mike, we dont care

give me proof that god exists.....

It claims that plants were created before the sun (plants need light for photosynthesis, also, the sun is older than the earth, which means the plants must have been floating around in space)
It also doesn't get the chronological order of evolution right. It claims that birds existed before land animals

We?

how does one become a christian.

Have you ever hated anyone?
Wished anyone was dead?
Called anyone a fool?
Prejudiced against anyone?

All of those violate Thou Shalt Not Murder

Have you given to God what belongs to God?

that violates Thou Shalt Not Steal

So far, you're a murderer and a thief. Shall we go for fornicator and blasphemous adulterer as well?

I posed a series of questions to you in the other thread. Feel free to respond here.

If you've committed a single sin, it's as you've broken all of God's laws. The Bible says that "all have sinned and come short of the glory of God". But because God loves us, he sent his only begotten son, Jesus Christ, to die for our sins.

When Christ was crucified, it was as if he carried the sins of the whole world in his own body. The only thing we need to do is accept Christ as our Lord and savior, then our sins will be on His record. So when you meet God when you die, you'll have a clean record.

Why is Christianity more valid than much older religions?

Free will and morality.

Just reminding all you crappy trolls that there are indeed no proofs that any god ever existed, so all your beliefs (just like mine) are just beliefs, nothing more.

I don't have it up anymore. Are you the baitfag from the other thread? If not please feel free to restate them.

Yes, we, the large user community on Sup Forums who are in fact believing Christians but you didn't realize that we are because we don't autistically screech on and on about it like atheists.

What did God create first? (Light)
What is God? (Light)
Who put light into the sun? (God).

When was the sun made? Day Four
When was the earth made? Day Two

So yes, the earth is older than the sun, by two days.

When were birds created? Day 5
When were the land animals made? Day 6

So yes, birds existed an entire day before land animals.

And your "evidence" that any of this is incorrect is, what, again? The "wisdom of men"?

If God isn't real then why don't the people in Australia fall off the Earth? Checkmate, atheists.

What? The sun was created before. Read Genesis:

>1. In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

>3. And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

>9. And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.

>11. And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.

one confesses with the mouth, that is to say out loud, that Jesus is Lord, and believes in one's heart that God raised Him from the dead. Do this, and you will be saved. Romans 10

Accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and savior, believe that he died on the cross for your sins, that he was buried, and rose again from the dead.

That's it.

Evidence:
>the existence of the universe
>free will

Islam is a truth.

Satan couldn't have been an angel because angels are made of light and thus can't disobey God. Satan was a jinn, made of fire.

Jesus (pbuh) can't be God, the holy trinity is debunked by the Bible.

I can be moral without god,

if god is omni-scient/benevolent'/potent/present and has predicted our every move we dont have free will, but i do since I dont believe in god

I asked how you knew God did nothing for the innocent dead; how you knew the innocent dead were not in heaven living with God in perfect bliss; how you knew the innocent dead even had memories of their lives here on earth, and of course I know that you have no way of knowing any of those things.

And yet you made declarative statements about them, almost as though you believe your opinion is the same as the Word of God.

>hated anyone
>called anyone a fool
>violates thou shall not murder

Huh?

Angels take human form.

Satan told Mohammad he was Gabriel. The father of lies, lied to Mohammad.

Foreknowledge and free will are not mutually exclusive, as they are independent of each other.

Right. Jesus takes our place as the guilty in God's courtroom on the last day because outside of Him there is absolutely NOTHING we can do to redeem ourselves. We aren't saved because we stop swearing or lying or smoking AND the blood of Jesus. No, we are saved because of the blood of Jesus ALONE.

>I can be moral without god,

Then you must be God, for only God is good (moral).

It's part of the rage the pharisees had towards Jesus. They thought, as all men thought, that unless they murder someone, they are innocent under the Law re murder.

Matthew 5:22 But I say to you that whoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment. And whoever says to his brother, ‘Raca!’ shall be in danger of the council. But whoever says, ‘You fool!’ shall be in danger of hell fire.

All sin begins in the heart.

But without evil there could be no good so it must be good to be evil sometimes

There was nothing but Good, nothing but God, prior to God creating the angels.

And when God confines all evil into the lake of fire, there will again be nothing but Good.

Dualism is fail.

>if god is omni-scient/benevolent'/potent/present and has predicted our every move we dont have free will

Yes, we do, because God gave us free will. Just because he knows the outcome of his creation doesn't mean he caused that outcome. God can do anything, and God gave us free will.

If I record a baseball game on TV, and we watch it the next day, I didn't cause the game to play out the way it did just because I have pre-knowledge of the game. I just know the outcome because I've seen it play out. I didn't cause it.

God exists outside space and time, and he knows everything. So obviously he can jump on the timeline and see what's going to happen. How do you think Jesus predicted things and how do you think Revelation came about?!

14 And God said, “Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth.” And it was so. 16 God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. 17 God set them in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth, 18 to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fourth day.

"Let there be light" cannot refer to the sun because according to the bible the sun was created on the fourth day.
So light existed before the sources of light? Either way, a permament source of light is necessary for plants to exist.
>the bible is right because the bible says so
Food for thought: Isn't it the wisdom of men with which we determine that a holy scripture or a religion is truthful?

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I'm all for deus vult because it will kill niggers, but don't think I'm kneeling down and wasting my time for a church that tries to "save" them and let's illegals take refuge under them. Christianity is cucked and lacks modern day morals for a healthy, open and friendly society without fundementalist religious niggers.

You can debate me all you want, but there is no point in living a life cucked under some cross, when you can be all that and a better human being without believing in ooga-booga kike-cross-section desert scribbles. Christianity is weak and only ammo they have is "hell this" and "sin that" and scare-tactic bullshit.

So you ARE the baitfag, gotcha.

religion is an old wives tale with the belief of a scary all powerful man living in the sky, its fucking terrible, Religion is stupid but by far Islam is the worst

>Angels take human form

Yeah according to Christcucks everything takes human form. When did Lucifer takes human form? Never. Get the fuck out

So Satan taught Muhammad the same things prescribed by Christianity or Judaism? You don't make any sense

Oh and by the way, Jesus (pbuh) was tempted by Satan in the desert, so your god can basically be tempted by Satan. Interesting. Fuck outta here

Morality doesn't save you. Our idea of morality is totally corrupted from the start.
Let me make this very clear: you will NOT stand before a HOLY God on the last day in your own morality or your own self-righteousness.

>Food for thought: Isn't it the wisdom of men with which we determine that a holy scripture or a religion is truthful?

No, it is by the indwelling presence and instruction of the Holy Spirit of God.

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Yes, because I said there are some wonderful Jewish people in the world.

Maybe get out of your house and meet some, in person.

>t.sunni pedophile / shia zoroastrian

That sounds incredibly authoritarian in nature. All I am getting from this is that this god person is a bit of a fucking tyrant

When lucifer tempted Jesus in the wilderness, for one.

>So Satan taught Muhammad the same things prescribed by Christianity

Christianity: Jesus is God, was crucified, died, and rose again from the dead.

Islam: Jesus is not God, was not crucified, did not die, and therefore did not have to rise from the dead.

Pretty sure most people can tell those are not only different, but opposite and mutually exclusive.

Well isn't that convenient

How do you know it's the holy spirit guiding you and not something else?

Hey guys, we have a /christian/ imageboard and discord. All Christian denominations that follow the Nicene Creed are welcome. Links are in pic related, God bless!

1- Christ "suffered" from the temptation as the NT says, for 40 days and 40 nights.

2- Christ had "evil desires" in him.

3- Christ felt spiritually weak that Angels had to come down to "attend him", because he was getting weaker and weaker, spiritually from satan's temptation.

4- Christ was between satan and GOD Almighty for 40 days and 40 nights.

5- Christ coveted the kingdoms of the world, and coveted turning them into satanic world such as open pornography, alcoholism, drugs, violence, theft, prostitution and all of the sins that one can think of.

6- The Bible says GOD Almighty can not be tempted by anyone! Yet, Christ was tempted for 40 days and 40 nights, and the temptation got very bad too for him.


Your non-monotheistic cult is blasphemy

He created the day and the night first... the definition of day and night is literally light and darkness. Stop being silly.

>Food for thought: Isn't it the wisdom of men with which we determine that a holy scripture or a religion is truthful?
No, the Bible says that holy man of God were moved by the Holy Ghost as they spake. The Bible was written by God.

He absolutely is. He is the King of Kings, and the Lord of Lords, and will not share His glory with anyone or anything. And as I mentioned before, He will rule with world with a rod of iron to break the nations.

Now ask yourself this.

What would you give to be able to go into His throne room, climb up on His throne, hug Him, and tell Him that you love Him?

I treat kikes everyday, the only worse scum on this earth is niggers.

kinda sounds like this christian(totally not jewish lol) god wants you to be his subservient bitch.

raelli maeks u thunk hmmmm

I really wish I could believe in God. I believe in the morality of Christianity, and I wish I could be a Christian. It would be so comforting to have the community of the church, the understanding that you won't cease to exist when you die. I can't though. No matter what I do I can't just "turn on" faith like a switch. I just don't have it.

God is capable of making Himself known, and by not doing anything contrary to His Word, or His name, or His character, or His nature.

How long have you been sucking jesus cock?

desu I don't have a problem with Christianity I just despise Islam

What in terms of practices? Why didn't Satan taught Muhammad that pre-marital sex must be encourage, why did he taught him to be circumcised by Jesus. Why is Islam's theology similar to Judaism's theology?

what sort of coward mentality is that, disgusting.

Jesus was tempted by the devil.

At no point was Jesus tempted to give in to those temptations. Nor was He spiritually weak; He was dying of hunger and thirst, hence the angels ministered to Him and kept Him alive. They were obviously on hand the entire time.

Jesus is God, not between man and God, and Jesus did not want the broken sinful and cursed world the devil offered Him.

He has better plans for this place than that. And they include the devil, his demons, and his human allies in an eternal lake of fire.

>literal thoughtcrime

The only thing this implies is that the bible is contradicting itself. How can there be day and night before there was a sun?
>No, the Bible says that holy man of God were moved by the Holy Ghost as they spake. The Bible was written by God
How do you know they were guided by the Holy Ghost?

I feel sorry for the people in your care, as you do not seem to care about people.

>We will debate you.
ffs, no. I'd rather be beheaded than arguing with a christfag in .

Which is why you have to humble yourself and ask God for assistance, because these are supernatural matters that require supernatural assistance.

Judaism, Christianity, Islam = Axis Of Evil.

Evil is live backwards, and the Axis Of Evil is to live backwards.

Jewish Filth is just that: Backwards.

I care for people, not vermin.

What do you mean? Faith always comes with some doubt. That's the point of faith. Salvation is by faith, which means that we need to believe. If we didn't how to believe ... that would be pretty easy, wouldn't it?

But we all have doubts, that's part of being human.

Because most of the good things in the quran were taken out of the bible. Also other sources, like the gnostic texts, infancy gospels, etc. A massive bit of plagiarism.

>Jesus was tempted by the devil.

So you admit that your god can be tempted by Satan?
And it doesn't bother you to worship a Jew, a great one, as God almighty? Damn son

If you someone used advanced technology or drugs to manipulate your mind they could make you believe anything they want too.

You could not stand on your own two feet before the Almighty.

I have the honor of calling Him Abba, Father.

What kind of coward are you, to not appropriate this for yourself?

Mohammed was a literal pedophile who molested and raped a 9 year old. I don't care what universe you live in, that's an abomination. That's a sick perversion.

If you don't know the story of Mohammed, this is what happened: one time when he was out traveling, Mohammed stopped by and rested in a cave. While he was inside the cave, an "angel from heaven" named Gabriel (how convenient to name him after one of the few angels in the Bible that's actually named) flew in, grabbed him by the throat and spit in his face, "TEACH THIS UNTO THE MASSES AND DO IT NOW!!!"

Mohammed got scared and started doing it. Throughout the rest of his life, Mohammed kept being visited by the "angel" who told him to do various things, for example, raid the trade caravans that went to Mecca and murder the travelers along the road. Mohammed had previously been banished from Mecca for trying to start a violent cult.

After Mohammed gained a large following, he taught a handful of people about his visions, and told them to write it down, which they did. After Mohammed died, they all started fighting about who should compile the "collected Quran" into a single book. They eventually created a version of the Quran, but kept on fighting, and eventually someone named Uthman (who never knew Mohammed) burned all surviving copies of the Quran and wrote a new one -- that all Muslims use today.

Meanwhile the Bible teaches that NO OTHER GOSPEL, not even if it is preached by an "ANGEL FROM HEAVEN" is true.

It's generally understood that Mohammed met Satan in the cave, or he just made the whole thing up.

desu

Why would I love somebody who's damned thousands of clueless pre-Christianity innocents to hell?
I would honestly rather burn than kiss up to somebody like that

Yes, and known before the creation of the world. So, forethoughtcrime.

then go perish, you piece of shit.
as atheist your life is worthless anyway and nothing awaits you beyond that.

Because God is light.

Because God divides the night and the day.

Because God can tell time without a sun.

So can someone help me with these questions? I would appreciate it, thank you.

What makes Christianity more valid than other, much older religions, such as Zoroastrianism?

Why do European churches ignore the Book of Enoch, the Book of Jubilee, and the Book of Giants? All of these are accepted as canon by the Ethiopian Orthodox Church and the Coptic church, but Occidental Christians do not include these books in their Bible.

Why is God characterized as masculine?

Why do European Christian churches ignore the Greek Septuagint?

How can you be sure the teachings of the Bible you read is in fact the original Bible, given all the revisions, omissions by the ecumenical council and various individuals?

Read the very next sentence.

The devil tempted Jesus, and at no point was Jesus ever tempted to give in to those temptations.

>Mohammed was a literal pedophile who molested and raped a 9 year old.

Only sunnis believe that, and even their sources are contradictory, not to mention that the hadith were written 200 years after his death

give demonstrable and testable evidence for the existence of specifically the christian god without using anecdotal evidence, using the bible to prove itself or breaking a logical fallacy.

I am actually protected from such things.

Then why even create a sun?

what the fuck are you talking about?

People damn themselves to hell.

If you love them, try to get them to change their minds.