Eating animals is mora-

>Eating animals is mora-

Why aren't you vegan Sup Forums? Do you have the empathy of a subhuman? Didn't you read Impeachment of Man by Savitri Devi?

"If man really wishes to be a "superior species," he has to give up the habit of acting as the "inferior" ones do." - Savitri Devi

"Surely modern man does not “uphold,” slavery; he denounces it vehemently. But he practises it nevertheless." - Savitri Devi

“One may regret living in a period when it is impossible to form an idea of the shape the world of the future will assume. But there is one thing I can predict to eaters of meat: the world of the future will be vegetarian.” – Adolf Hitler

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Vegans shit their guts out constantly. I eat meat because I don't want to be a constantly leaking sewerage tank

Habbit?
I could be vegan but I'm already not vegan and it's actually a big effort to change with no real reason to change and no payoff.

Keep living up on your high horse though. We all know you're just a hypocrite.

>humans instantly kill their preys
>other animals, like the mantis, slowly eats their preys brain's out while they suffer a slow, painful death
Nature is cruel, deal with it, fruit.

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Mankind has dominion over the rest of nature. God's commandments concerning morality have no relation to non-human creations whatsoever.
Fuck off.

I like meat. Your feelings do not matter.

Are you a troll, or are you unable to perceive the way your position (and the god you represent) seems morally bankrupt with that particular line of rhetoric?

Your position (its ok to eat meat) could be one I agree with, but philosophically its insidious.

A SIMILAR line of reasoning, since an example would illustrate my point is
"Maoism is the best way. Its not wrong to kill a non Maoist."

I eat meat because it has nutrients I need, and, on an animal level, crave.
Hunting and butchering the animal (or being required to) would perhaps make me more likely to be vegetarian, or at least have respect for the animal I'm eating as thats how I personally am wired, though I could imagine the same actions could de-sensitize me to eating meat too.

>vegans shit their guts out constantly
do you have a single fact to back that up?

>no reason to change
>no payoff
so you're only willing to take actions that benefit yourself and care nothing for how those actions affect other beings. The very definition of a "Man-in-time." I hope you can outgrow your subhumanity.

>nature is cruel
refer to the first Savitri Devi quote

>God's commandments concerning morality have no relation to non-human creations whatsoever
Precisely why the National Socialists recognized Judeo-Christianity as an inferior moral system.

>I like meat. Your feelings do not matter
Translation: My pleasure is all that matters to me. The feelings of other sentient beings do not matter.

To be fair, re-reading your comment, I may have misunderstood you, as you're talking about who you think the magic man in the sky has rules for, and since he's not signing autographs its a moot point and a non-issue for me, and my butthurt posturing less relevant.

We eat more fibre generally. Our shits are cleaner than yours as the human digestion can't effectively digest meat

God determines morality. God gave dominion over animals to humans. There is nothing morally lacking in following the moral law of God - no other false "morality" matters.

fucking hell man...
imagine being one of them

i would be vegan or at least eat much less meat but that shit is not really option here, not enough money and not enough variety

Questioning veganism is a good way of gauging intelligence. If you can't recognise that meat eating is unethical, unhealthy and bad for the environment then you aren't intelligent. Denotes poor critical thinking.

The problem is that veganism is the right thing, irrespective of your personal opinion. But that doesn't mean people will adhere to it. People are selfish and will choose personal gain over a collective nuisance

Humans are existentially more important than animals. If you don't feel any more for another human than you do for an ant, then enjoy hell.

kys

Predation made Man what he is. Our brains would still be as tiny as most herbivores without rich animal fats to push us forward. People who are unwilling to kill and eat an animal should not be allowed to vote.

We enjoy eating animal. Human is sometimes animal, you understand.

Fuck off OP.

i have empathy, but not for a cow..

it's not going to have a great life anyways.. it will stand there and eat grass for it's entire life. i bet the cow doesn't give a single fuck if she dies. we bred it for this purpose anyways, it would not have lived if we did not breed it for food

animals like rabbits are there for the sole purpose of being food. they breed so fast it would be an ecological disaster if nothing thinned out the numbers

all wildlife on earth is a balance between predator and prey.

Why draw the line at animals?
All life is precious. Stop eating plants if you really care.

>Adolf Hitler
vegans are nazis

Animal farming is inefficient and unnecessary, unlike crop farming.

They glorify dogs first and then that irrational love for animals starts expanding and extending over other animal species.

>Why aren't you vegan?
Because i like having everything in my diet which is the most healthy lifestyle to have.
But oh, i want some gray malnourished skeleton to tell me what's better for me, who dies of the flu.

Oh, and CHICKEN NUGGETS TASTE GREAT.
I actually don't care if they cried and if the lifestock begged for its life.
I want chicken nuggets and if they cried, i don't even need to salt them. bitch.

Have you spent any time around chickens? If so, it wouldn't bother you. They died as quickly and cleanly as a chicken can aspire to.

There's plenty of things to dislike about factory farming (the meat it produces is TERRIBLE) but this isn't one of them. Just stupid melodrama bullshit.

>i bet the cow doesn't give a single fuck if she dies
When you do things to the cow that cause it pain it behaves as if to preserve itself.
Don't base your beliefs on falsities. Base them on concretes.

Don't be preposterous, you facetious burger.

being omnivore means that you are less in need of vitamin supplements. you'd still need them regardless but that's not the point. you need them more if you're vegetarian and even more so if you're vegan.

like, heck, even nutritional experts consume certain types of meat. then if you really wanna go down the rabbit hole you should find out which diet is best for you based on your blood type and what food you should avoid based on intolerances and what you should eat more and all that.

>Do you have the empathy of a subhuman

So, how about all those poor animals that get killed and driven away from their habitat to make more corn or soy or whatever field for you to stuff your gut to?

Or they don't matter because you can't make cute pictures about them?

Get out from your highhorse, fucking hypocritical, virtue-signaling piece of useless shit. Meat eaters, actually, are more humane, since they create the meat they eat, unlike vegans, who take over the land, fuck ecosystem in it in order to have more soy sauce or whatever.

What perfectly moral logic.
I should kill you for not being a Maoist.
What perfectly moral logic.

The ONLY valid argument people can make for not being vegan is that meat tastes better.

Personally I've found more vegan foods that taste waaay better than any animal products.

It's literally the healthiest diet possible to humans, why the fuck aren't you vegan?

God commands you to not use violence against other people, so you'd be committing an immoral act AKA sinning by killing me.
Go ahead. Your judgement is yours - not mine.

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I think the meat industry is needed, but it's not worth justifing ethically. I'm not going to go vegan because of it, but "who cares brah they're just animals brah" is a faggot opinion.

>suffer (...) painful
These are insects, they have no nervous system, they don't feel pain.

>implies all land is arable
Look faggot, animal production is important. Mega animal farms are kind of stupid but there's a lot of land out there you cant grow crops on. That land is perfect for cows/goats etc. It's not a fucking trade off like you think it is.

In the wild the chicken gets to fulfil its evolutionary purpose, in a chicken farm it gets to be pecked to death.

Ancap libertarian fascist vegan kratocracies are the future

Meateaters should be rounded up and placed in slaugherhouses like these

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i'm not talking about hurting it, but a quick painless death.

ofcourse it will react when you poke it's nerve endings

i acknowledge an animal went back to god so i could continue to live and feel temporary comfort.

life feeds on life.

>Why aren't you vegan Sup Forums?
Because I'm not a completely AIDS-ridden faggot.

>Why aren't you vegan Sup Forums?
Because I am not a self righteous poofter trying to convert people to my wacky food religion.

I would like to eat American hot dog with relish in yankee stadium one time, then watch New York burn from minimum safe distance.

i like to eat things only if they suffer first. It just tastes better.

> healthiest diet

> vegan

There's nothing wrong with this sentiment, so long as you mean NYC and not NY

>do you have a single fact to back that up?
he posts from the toilet

Why can't you just do it because it's the healthiest diet possible? It's like advocating for exercise and you're trying to dis it.

In addition, I point out how our conclusion COULD have been in agreement.
I like to eat meat, and persuaded by arguments in favor of this position.

YOU on the other hand would have us persue a devisive, metaphysical based, faith-contingent lack of agreement.

"your Invisible sky man says you have the right to eat pork? WTF, suddenly I don't want to sell you my Pig. Get off my organic produce farm, psycho we're pagans here"

To be fair, we feel empathy with animals because doing *unnecessary* harm to them is wrong. Or is it not a depiction of your hatred or indifference towards his creation, its beauty and goodness to f.e. burn 1000 puppies alive? When you slaughter an animal you should do it rightly, and the sadness you feel while doing it because you are destroying a living being should transform into thankfullness while eating it. The amount of ungrateful consumption of today is... Sinful. Gluttony.

Respect the animals but kill the kikes, they are inferior to any dog or even apes

Literally zero evidence for any metabolic or chemical causation of animal fats increasing our brain size.

shut up faggot, (((veganism))) is just another way to weaken us

Wanna maybe say why that's wrong?

Why do you think there's any moral distinction between something dying in x time versus something dying in x+y time? People hunt deer with bows, and even with a double lung shot it can take minutes for them to die. Should you feel bad for the deer? No.

I used to be vegan until a month ago.
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You're a morally inferior subhuman,

Morality is utterly unrelated to eating animals. Animals are not moral agents and thus applying morality to this is absurd.

How many vegans have cared enough about their own health to ask a competent doctor about their choice? Or a PhD in biology? I dare any vegan who reads this to do that. Go on. The ethics argument at least holds some weight but saying we are not supposed to eat meat, and traditionally haven't, is just idiocy.

Just to be sure.

t. egg council kike

Jews have co-opted veganism to be filled with numales and liberals to turn us away from the Creator's diet

Thank you.

yeah nah we've only been eating meat for millions of years, cant effectively digest it AT ALL

Life feeds on life.
Stop being a pussy little bitch, subhuman.

Because if chickens weren't consumed, they wouldn't even live in the first place.

>Meat eaters, actually, are more humane
fuck off with the cringeworthy inhalation simulation commas
>since they create the meat they eat
citation needed

Meat insustry requires far more land and deforestation to feed and raise livestock than soy farming does. Not to say it isn't bad that people are deforesting to profit off soy growing, but meat is objectively more inefficient and worse for the environment and ecosystem at every stage.

>Why can't you just do it because it's the healthiest diet possible?
Prove it.
>It's like advocating for exercise and you're trying to dis it.
I am not trying to "dis", I am "dis"ing it.
Fuck your retarded religion.

All harm is "unnecessary". All of it.
I hold a similar view to Kant on animals, which is that none of our activities in their regard carry moral import, but that it can be revealing of a sinister nature or a bad will if one seeks out the suffering of other living things.
Jesus sort out your philosophy.

Are you not keeping up?
I don't have to be insulting here.
I was using YOUR line of reasoning;

"Dogmatic reasoning justifys my actions" is your stance as much as the strawman Maoist that wants to kill you for not being a Maoist.

I know you theists have difficulty with Hypotheticals, but if you think _I'm_ a Maoist, you WERENT KEEPING UP.

The point you appear to be missing is I have difficulty telling your position and the maoist that wants to kill people apart, because both are only justified by their personal preferences,

as neither Mao, nor god, are currently giving autographs and answering questions.

So you don't think animals have a subjective conscious experience like you and I?

Have you not seen mother cows cry as their child gets taken away and go mental about it until it gets electrocuted and poked at with pikes?

Not seen how they scream in pain as they're smacked with blunt objects?

Deer are an invasive species in Australia, it is morally justified to kill invasive species that will threaten the local fauna.

>calls others subhuman
>has a diet of soy

>Implying animals have rights
>Blatant appeal to authority

Fuck off skelly. Bacon it's awesome

Enjoy your colon cancer you pleb, i'll be over here fighting my food to the death like a man

Huge shit eating faggot is what you are

Babies aren't moral agents either, therefore we can kill and eat babies

not making every effort to feed yourself to the best of your ability to pay dividends on the price paid for your freedom by your forefathers is LITERALLY SLAUGHTERING HUMANS
I eat animals because:
they taste good
they are fucking assholes
they are dicks
they are stupid
fuck them
they'd kill / eat me if they could
fuck you nigger

Where is the dogma? Do you know what dogma MEANS?

>inferior species breath
>we must give up the habit of breathing to show our superiority over other species
>t. shitty woman philosopher

hurr

If you can prove morality is objective I will be happy to agree.

Reaction to stimulus is not the same thing as moral agency.

>I am not trying to "dis", I am "dis"ing it.

Yea, it was in context with the exercise analogy - you're not dissing that. Calm down faam.

And mkay, I'll look up some reasons why a vegan diet is healthier than consuming animal products.

Nowhere did I say I have a diet of soy. You're stupid.

So you don't believe that they have a subjective consciousness like you and I do?

Why not have love and empathy for all life?

It's no longer necessary to develop the brain, so what's the modern justification for eating meat?

Agreed, Impeachment of Man has a chapter on plant rights. Hopefully synthetic foods will become widespread soon. Until then veganism minimizes the loss of plant life, so it's still the moral choice.

mexibro is correct
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So it's better for these male chicks who are just born to exist for a brief period of time and then get ground up? I'm sure they enjoyed their day of being caged, really worthwhile life there.

never implied animals have rights, only that they deserve empathy as sentient beings

My life is more important, and I need the nutrients.

"Invasive species" is an arbitrary classification you just used to justify something you wanted to do.
I could call you a demon and justify my burning you at the stake based on the arbitrary classification that you are a demon and that it is justified to burn demons at the stake.

Enjoy grappling with prepacked walmart chickens you fat bitch

>subjective consciousness
That's just a phrase you made up without any real meaning.

Stop watching disney.

Because life isn't equal.

You should at least try Googling it before looking like a mongo, mate.

Chickens can't survive in the wild on their own, so the choice is we either keep on letting them live to benefit us or we let them die out on their own. If we're playing the moral game, then isn't mass extinction pretty high on the bad morals code?

If veganism was adopted by everyone the population would fly so out of control due to the lack of diseases and illnesses caused by processed food and people living longer that it would actually have a negative effect on the planet in the long run, resulting in more habitat loss due to housing being built for the larger population, and land that would otherwise be used for dairy and meat farms which bolster a hugely beneficial population of pollinating flying insects like bluebottles due to the presence of waste which serves as a feeding hotspot for other small animals like voles, shrews, spiders and wasps due to the insects it attracts. Assuming meat eating was abolished entirely, this land would be be converted into pesticide ridden crop fields of lettuce and whatever the fuck else vegans eat, literally of no benefit to the environment as countless insect species would start dwindle due to excessive usage of neonicotinoids being used all across the world. There is only a finite amount of space we humans can occupy on the planet, so shitty food that keeps the population unhealthy and dying young is a necessary evil to make sure we don't fuck up the Earth further. in our current state we already occupy 90% of land on Earth, 10% by humans themselves and the other 80% by farms, roads, train tracks, highways, industrial land etcetera. You literally cannot refute this. It makes me sick how little vegans and hippie faggots actually care about their planet they jizz so much over

every respectable hunter will still try to kill it the fastest way possible.. if a double long shot is what it takes then so be it

they don't use bows and arrows in slaughter houses tho..

> 2 posts by this ID
Meh.

> Cats?
No.

> Dogs?
No.

> Bovine?
As a personal preference, no - bovine estrogen is too similar to human estrogen. As of late, for me, eating beef causes symptoms similar to drinking water from a heated plastic bottle.

> Fish?
Maybe, depends on Hg content.

> Avians specifically bred for food?
Yes.

Birds and fish are nearly mindless. Moreover, they do not produce hormones analogous to those in the human body. Ergo, they are generally safe to eat (cooked!).

Also, I don't feel empathy for animals not in the form of a fuzzy homunculus.

Most animals consumed by humans are herbivores.

If anything you should eat cats and dogs, since they would actually eat you if they could overpower you

Life is a subjective experience, people who are truly individual make moral choices.