Same-sex marriage: What does the Bible really have to say?

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>LGBTQIAP+

this is a shill thread folks, just hide and move on

Tolerance is the bare minimum any society that wants to sustain itself can afford, you cannot be accepted. Let me break it down for you

>evolution>race>religion>morality>civilization

civilization relies on morality which relies on religion which relies on race which relies on evolution. Homosexuality is anti evolution, an evolutionary dead end, a curse upon a species. This hurts the race, which the religion was based upon which hurts the religion which hurts the morality and which hurts the civilization. Too much of a deviation from this chain and you're society will collapse. Just as Rome did.

This is the most brain dead interpretation of the bible I have ever seen. The author is clearly being intentionally dishonest and claiming that actually the point was some side detail, instead of the actual focus. This is the equivalent of trying to find loopholes.

Not really, but I find if I make it along the lines of:
>Look at this fucking (((cunt))) playing word games with God's Word in order to push degeneracy. I hate this shit so much.
then I won't get replies, and I wouldn't get the satisfaction of knowing that there are many other pissed off cunts out there. If I was actually a shill I wouldn't have archived the Conversation because that site is cancer.
Maybe you're a newfag and you don't understand this, I don't know.

>1 Corinthians 6:9-10
"Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God."

There's no such thing as same-sex marriage, and there will never be, no matter how many times you repeat the meme.

it is very specific and states and restates that same sex acts are immoral as it is destructive and regressive on many levels.

what is does say is that you should not kill people who are homosexual, but social isolation is acceptable as along as they do not seek Reformation. if they do, reform them.

mark10:6-9
romans 1:26-28
romans 13:8-10

>The Greek word malakoi in 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 means “soft” or “effeminate” and captures the Graeco-Roman distaste at a man taking a “female” role. In the Bible it is commonly used to describe fancy clothing, and outside the Bible was a term for cult prostitutes.
>The word arsenokoites is rarer. Scholars have debated whether it refers to male prostitution or pederasty or something else. To translate it “homosexual” is problematic for two reasons: it is unlikely Paul had any concept of sexual orientation and he was certainly not describing a committed adult relationship.

>Leviticus 20:13
"“‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads."

>Matthew 5:17-20
"“Don’t misunderstand why I have come. I did not come to abolish the law of Moses or the writings of the prophets. No, I came to accomplish their purpose. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not even the smallest detail of God’s law will disappear until its purpose is achieved. So if you ignore the least commandment and teach others to do the same, you will be called the least in the Kingdom of Heaven. But anyone who obeys God’s laws and teaches them will be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven.

“But I warn you—unless your righteousness is better than the righteousness of the teachers of religious law and the Pharisees, you will never enter the Kingdom of Heaven!"

Gay marriage is for faggots

let me also add in clarity, the bible has three kinds of love as stated in the English text as the translations mottle that.

there is familial, sexual, and enjoyment.

most statements of love are familial in the bible, not sexual. this is backed by the original writers word choice, Hebrew and Greek have specific words to separate these meanings.

Remember: when replying to a shill thread, sage goes in all fields

>Despite the linguistic history of the word “sodomite”, Genesis 19 has nothing to say about homosexuality or mutually consenting adults of the same gender expressing their desire and love.
Stupid fucking goy, don't you know that because Moses couldn't conceive of this level of degeneracy, then that means it's 100% ok?

So noone gets in cause this covers anyone that has made it past 10years old

LGBTQIAPWTFBBQ[>>

Yeah it also promotes incest, another reason not to read desert fairytales.

The Bible is a book written by people to control other people that is all it is.

>leviticus 18:22 is about having sex with another man when you're married
>"thou shall not lie with mankind as with womankind; it is abomination"
Holy shit this article is retarded.

Kike shills, here we go.
'No one is to approach any close relative to have sexual relations. I am the Lord.' Lev. 18:6

Doesn't say anything about lesbians though :^)

I debated sending her an email explaining why she's wrong, but I wonder if there's any point. She seems like a committed subversive who doesn't actually give a shit about the Bible.

Romans 1:26-27 mentions lesbians

No, that's not what the bible says.

Go read Hebrews 10:26-27.

No, the Bible doesn't specifically mention this one specific situation which never occurred in the pre-Modern era, therefore buggery is totally fine. Why is this so difficult to understand?

The original bible was written by Jews all of it then was redone by some people in the early 1600. The only difference in the bible being used as a religious book and the book of Scientology is one is older than the other.

Of course the Romans mention the best porn to fap to. I wouldn't expect anything less from the orgy masters.

There is no original bible, the bible has over 40 different authors

>Romans 1:24-32
"So God abandoned them to do whatever shameful things their hearts desired. As a result, they did vile and degrading things with each other’s bodies. They traded the truth about God for a lie. So they worshiped and served the things God created instead of the Creator himself, who is worthy of eternal praise! Amen. That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other. And the men, instead of having normal sexual relations with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men, and as a result of this sin, they suffered within themselves the penalty they deserved.

Since they thought it foolish to acknowledge God, he abandoned them to their foolish thinking and let them do things that should never be done. Their lives became full of every kind of wickedness, sin, greed, hate, envy, murder, quarreling, deception, malicious behavior, and gossip. They are backstabbers, haters of God, insolent, proud, and boastful. They invent new ways of sinning, and they disobey their parents. They refuse to understand, break their promises, are heartless, and have no mercy. They know God’s justice requires that those who do these things deserve to die, yet they do them anyway. Worse yet, they encourage others to do them, too."

OK, lets quote the kike Torah, that is the Old Testament there lurking goys.

>Genesis 19:30-38
30 Lot and his two daughters left Zoar and settled in the mountains, for he was afraid to stay in Zoar. He and his two daughters lived in a cave. 31 One day the older daughter said to the younger, “Our father is old, and there is no man around here to give us children—as is the custom all over the earth. 32 Let’s get our father to drink wine and then sleep with him and preserve our family line through our father.”

33 That night they got their father to drink wine, and the older daughter went in and slept with him. He was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up.

34 The next day the older daughter said to the younger, “Last night I slept with my father. Let’s get him to drink wine again tonight, and you go in and sleep with him so we can preserve our family line through our father.” 35 So they got their father to drink wine that night also, and the younger daughter went in and slept with him. Again he was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up.

36 So both of Lot’s daughters became pregnant by their father. 37 The older daughter had a son, and she named him Moab[a]; he is the father of the Moabites of today. 38 The younger daughter also had a son, and she named him Ben-Ammi[b]; he is the father of the Ammonites[c] of today.

biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis 19:30-38

The King James Bible, a translation from the Greek and the Hebrew, was produced in the 1600s. It was not 'redone.' There exist plenty of manuscripts, pic related, from just after the events described, and in the original languages. You are either being deliberately ignorant or deliberately deceptive.

and then they were punish by God. keep reading it gets interesiting

Notice how that passage merely describes the events that occurred, and makes no moral judgement. To assume that because it is mentioned that it is sanctioned is sheer idiocy.

I'm playing the devil's advocate here, sarcastically. I thought I'd made that obvious.

Retard or troll.

Read the shit about Sodoma and Gomorrah.

Also, Leviticus 20:14: If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them.

They changed words that had no translation to the language it was translated to so it was redone.

I know what happens
>no moral judgement
Well goy church today is all about feeling good, love and turning the other cheek. The new Testament isn't Communistic pssh no never. Let tyrone sleep with your daughter if he stabs you it is ok for the meek shall inherit the earth, the rapture totally inst getting sent to the gulag.

Why do you think anyone who matters gives a shit about what it says in the bible?

>archive.is/9Vn0R
So she twists the story of Sodom and Gomorrah to her convinience... I guess that's how liberals manage to love Islam and justify its verses as non-violent.

>God wants to destroy S&G
>Abraham begs him not to, saying that if he finds at least 10 righteous people he should show mercy
>God agrees and sends two angels to investigate.
>The inhabitants want to have sex with the angels thinking they're men.
>Lot offers two virgin daughters in exchange.
>People refuse, they want to have sex with the men.
>Somehow this is not about men rejecting women and wanting to have sex with men and about degeneracy when 2 angels couldn't find 10 decent people therefore the wrath of God fell upon Sodoma.

>Perfect translations don't exist.
>Therefore translation doesn't exist.

Leviticus 20:13King James Version (KJV)

13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Goddamn you corny faggots are so obvious with your raids.

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who cares what the hebrew tales say?

>Well goy church today is all about feeling good, love and turning the other cheek. The new Testament isn't Communistic pssh no never. Let tyrone sleep with your daughter if he stabs you it is ok for the meek shall inherit the earth, the rapture totally inst getting sent to the gulag.
Straight out of the JIDF playbook. You even call me a goy. Just because the church pushes the Sermon on the Mount without context because of Jewish subversion does not mean that Christianity forbids conflict. Why did this hippy 'nice Jesus' stuff only appear in the 1960s? If it is the core of Christian practice, wouldn't it have been present a thousand years ago? Kikes infiltrated Christianity with Freemasonry and the Jesuits in order to destroy it. Cucktianity is the result.

this makes me hate faggots and happy that they are treated like garbage in 90% of the world

So why are people so stuck on this law but all these others they just ignore.

biblehub.com/nasb/deuteronomy/22.htm

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>Leviticus 20:13King James Version (KJV)

>13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

>Leviticus 18:22King James Version (KJV)

>22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.


>Leviticus 5:3King James Version (KJV)

>3 Or if he touch the uncleanness of man, whatsoever uncleanness it be that a man shall be defiled withal, and it be hid from him; when he knoweth of it, then he shall be guilty.

Jesus frees us from the laws like Kosher, which are arbitrary, but not those that are about personal morality:
>Don't you see that whatever enters the mouth goes into the stomach and then out of the body? But the things that come out of a person's mouth come from the heart, and these defile them. For out of the heart come evil thoughts--murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander. These are what defile a person; but eating with unwashed hands does not defile them."
So eating pork is fine, but sexual immorality, which Christ specifically mentions, is absolutely not.

That one seems to be more about the separation of meat and dairy than allowing pork.

I think lesbianism isn't as bad as male homosexuality.

Actual lesbians don't look like this or those attention whores at the club m8

Cool, but cut out the TQIAP+
>Being this much of a faggot

They're worse in practical terms.

bump

I was going to say, real lesbians are so fucking ugly and undesirable that they have to be lesbian.

For the final authority on what is "Christian" and what is not, one only has to look at what Jesus had to say:

He answered, "Have you not read that from the beginning the Creator made them male and female, and said, 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and will be united with his wife, and the two will become one flesh'? So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate."
(Matthew 19:4-6 [NETfree])

What is a and p? Animal & paedophilia?

wut? i have 2 lesbian nieces in my family, one who is happily married.

okay they are ugly though.

>sola scriptura

Canon VII of St. Basil the Great

They who have committed sodomy with men or brutes, murderers, wizards, adulterers, and idolaters, have been thought worthy of the same punishment [as fornicators; Canon VI]; therefore observe the same method with these which you do with others. We ought not to make any doubt of receiving those who have repented thirty years for the uncleanness which they committed through ignorance; for their ignorance pleads their pardon, and their willingness in confessing it; therefore command them to be forthwith received, especially if they have tears to prevail on your tenderness, and have [since their lapse] led such a life as to deserve your compassion.

>one who commits the sin of sodomy must repent for 30 years before being accepted back into communion

You need a bolt to the noodle

Canon LXII.
He that abuses himself with mankind, shall do the penance of an adulterer.

At first I thought:
>They who have committed sodomy with[ men or brutes, murderers, wizards, adulterers, and idolaters,]
But then I realized:
>Wizards
>God commands us to get married and fuck our wives before the age of thirty.

Funny, the early church spoke the same language as Paul and always interpreted it as gay sex.

>woman
>preaching
>claims to be christian
PFFFFAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

1 Corinthians 14:34-35King James Version (KJV)

34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.

35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

God intends for people to marry and start having children before age 20. That's when humans are most fertile.

Women are nurturers and hence unable to maintain any form of orthodoxy when it comes to feelings.

Lesbos BTFO'd for eternity:
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I think 12+ is fine as long as parents consent.
But I'd say that you should court them for a few years first

>Bible
it's irrelevant you fucking caveman

>supporting fucking 12 year olds

Hello Muhammad

Fuck you OP.

How convenient that they forgot that sex should be had with the intention of procreation, something that is impossible in a homosexual relationship.

The bible makes it pretty clear that marriage is between a man and a women:

Genesis 2:24
24 Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.

1 Corinthians 7:3–5
3 The husband should give to his wife her conjugal rights, and likewise the wife to her husband. 4 For the wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does. Likewise the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does. 5 Do not deprive one another, except perhaps by agreement for a limited time, that you may devote yourselves to prayer; but then come together again, so that Satan may not tempt you because of your lack of self-control.

>supporting fucking 12 year olds
I support marriage.
I think after puberty the should be able to bear children right? isn't that how it's supposed to work?

Also It'd be easier for them to stay a virgin if they can get married earlier.

Unless your a roastie.

Her point is that 'gay sex' in Paul's time was nasty adulterous pederast sex without love, while 21st Century gay sex is loving and beautiful.

Yep when you at like a goy i'll call you brainwashed goy you are.

jrbooksonline.com/PDF_Books/lightningsun.pdf
Have some fucking pride and lose your fables.

Yes but infertility makes a big spike around the mid-thirties.
>12 year old
>after puberty
12 is During puberty mate. Not after.

>jrbooksonline.com/PDF_Books/lightningsun.pdf

THE LIGHTNING AND THE SUN by SAVITRI DEVI

I'm referring to the ability to bear children...

>Hey whitey, follow this poo-in-loo currynigger religion!
Not an argument.

>I was just pretending

youtube.com/watch?v=U7hO3zMYKfY

See .

Women can preach outside the church building.

"Church" isn't just a building
It can refer to a congregation of people

All people don't belong to a church. A woman can preach to a non-believer.

Of course she can preach to a non believer but that doesn't mean she can preach whatever she wants/whatever she preaches is correct.

Daily Reminder that the leftists openly promote and condone fucking little boys in the ass and general pedophilia.

BAMN= By Any Means Necessary (Anti-Trump proesters/militant commie/druggie scum from Berkeley)
NAMBLA= North American Man-Boy Love Association
(advocates for gay pedophilia, literally defend the rapists in court pro-bono).

This is the kind of degenerate scum we're fight, Sup Forums, never forget that.

Of course, but that's the same for a man.

And a woman must be covered when she does this in the presence of brothers
1 Cor 11:5

I know she must be covered.
My church follows that.

I won't drop a single tear when these monster will be destroyed.

>Proverbs 26:18-19
"Just as damaging
as a madman shooting a deadly weapon
is someone who lies to a friend
and then says, “I was only joking.”"

>feelings
No. Sex is not about feelings.
Only a man and a woman can create life together. Gay sex brings only disease and death.

not really what is about little guy, its cool dance in rome and such
your non argument isnt an argument

I'll fap to that.

There is nothing more beautiful than a woman with her head covered tastefully.

Same sex marriage? No, that's a 4some right there.

I feel the exact same way. They're pushing for the complete breakdown of society. Day of The Rope can't come soon enough.

a Child should grow up with a mother and a father. its hard enough as it is with parants seperating and having single parents who weren`t lucky enough to finding someone else willing to take care of the parents Child.

the Day of the Lord > day of the rope