Why do "nazis", mostly poltards associate nazism with christianity?

We will have to deal with Christianity in a tougher way than hitherto. We must settle accounts with this "Christianity, this greatest of plagues that could have happened to us in our history, which has weakened us in every conflict." - Heinrich Himmler

Why do you retards always bring up christianity and nazi values? Himmler, Hitler and many more high ranked nazis HATED christianity and saw it as the enemy of the third reich.

worldfuturefund.org/wffmaster/Reading/Germany/himmler.religion.htm

He even valued islam more than christianity

"Himmler: "Islam is a practical and sympathetic religion for soldiers"

I know you guys aren't gomna respond but some of you will read this and hopefully stop being such childish """"nazis""""

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You aren't wrong, but you aren't right.
National socialism inherently takes the place of any religion, but it doesn't mean it goes against all Christian values.

>taking the Reichsheini srsly
sage

So you can't take hitler serious as well? Was he also a "reichsheini"?
Who was important then lf not these two?

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THE THIRD REICH AND CHRISTIANITY:

"We will have to deal with Christianity in a tougher way than hitherto. We must settle accounts with this Christianity, this greatest of plagues that could have happened to us in our history, which has weakened us in every conflict. If our generation does not do it, then I believe it would drag on for a long time. We must overcome it within ourselves."
-- Reichsführer Heinrich Himmler; Speech to top leaders of the SS, June 9, 1942 Berlin

“National Socialist and Christian conceptions are incompatible. The Christian churches are build upon men’s ignorance; by contrast [National Socialism] rests upon scientific foundations. When we [National Socialists] speak of belief in God, we do not mean, like the naïve Christians and their spiritual exploiters, a man-like being sitting around somewhere in the universe. The force governed by natural law by which all these countless planets move in the universe, we call omnipotence or God. The assertion that this universal force can trouble itself about the destiny of each individual being, every smallest earthly bacillus, can be influenced by so-called prayers or other surprising things, depends upon a requisite dose of naivety or else upon shameless professional self-interest.”
–Martin Bormann

Many people due to misinformation, mistakenly believe that Nazi Germany was friendly to Christianity. This is not true by any stretch of the imagination. For those who are utterly confused, this ebook proves beyond any doubt that not only were the Nazis anti-Christian, but the Third Reich Leaders were actively working to destroy Christianity, both the Catholic and Protestant Churches.

archive.org/details/thirdreichandchristianity

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No one takes you goofs seriously

>He even valued islam more than christianity
Nope.

nobeliefs.com/Hitler1.htm

Daily Reminder that people pushing Christianity in pro white movements are just negro christians.

They are doing it because white nationalists tolerate Christianity and Christianity is one of the things that makes race mixing possible.

Christianity teaches that a Black Christian is exactly as good as white Christian and a white infidel is subhuman. Christianity has been telling the white man everyone is equal in the eyes of the god.

The left is the most Christian whether they admit it or not. White Nationalism is exactly the opposite of Christian globalism.

WE ARE BEING HELD BACK BY FAGGY MORALS.

>Sup Forums is nazi
lol

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These niggers or as christ cucks call them children of god, don't want racist atheists and neo pagans in their way.

Pic related: Average deus vult LARPER and his traditional christian girlfriend.

They mostly just like the nazi aesthetic. Knowledge of many of the actual views and values held there is considered optional at best and more often than not aggressively denied.

T. Jamaal Christensen

Your views are retarded

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>He even valued islam more than christianity
True.

What are "traditional Christian" family values?

Like goat fucker Abraham trying to kill his own son? Or Jesus encouraging European women to become degenerate nuns and stop making white babies?

Christianity is a Jewish sect which is now the forerunner of multiculturalism and race mixing.

Pro-White Pagan family values
Multi racial Christian v̶a̶l̶u̶e̶s̶ faggy morals

PICK ONE.

What exactly are "Traditional Christian family values?" Varg explains:
youtu.be/VjEqoltgSQE

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Don't bother, not worth it

>Pro-White Pagan family values
>Varg
kek, i agreed with you until this point but trying to be pagan in 2017 is just too fucking ridiculous

Shut the fuck up already you fucking spamming piece of dog shit. You thinking posting the same bullshit over and over is going to make you right? Dumbass fucking leftist.

Be a ""positive christian"" or SS will come and get you.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_Christianity

You don't get it, do you?. I'm going to try and help you critically think here. The sources you are talking about are simply quotes. You do not judge people, especially politicians, by what they say, but by what they do. One of the very Pagan things that Hitler did was allow Heinrich Himmler to turn the SS into a Pagan organization. Now, no one is going to say with a straight face that Himmler was a Christian, he was a Pagan, and he had enormous power and influence in the Third Reich.

The SS was a Pagan organization headed by the Pagan Himmler. They had pagan holidays, pagan funerals, pagan weddings, pagan symbols, and ancestor and hero worship. SS men were even barred from naming their children "Christian" names. The SS was going to be THE cream of Europe, the aristocratic elite of the world. If you want a source, try and find the SS handbook.

Let's also look at the Hitler Jugend. Every boy had to join it. In the Hitler Jugend:

>They sung songs openly anti-Christian
>They were taught not to read the bible but Mein Kampf instead
>They celebrated Pagan holidays and not Christian ones

Even the SS men that fled to South America continued Pagan traditions. You can compare quotes all you'd like, but Hitler knew this was all going on and allowed it.

Hitler did the right thing, it shows he cared more about German people than some desert religion.

Unlike christ cucks and deus vult LARPERs on this board, my research is fact based.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler

If you cannot be a Pagan than become a pro white atheist or something else. Don't be a degenerate Christian and never subscribe to any Abrahamic religion.

Christianity is a universal cult of weakness, cowardice, humility, body discovery, racial blindness and pacifism.

"There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus."

This is a real verse from the Bible and it sounds like some new world order shit for even today's standard. (pic related)

Now imagine saying that in front of a Roman emperor back then! No wonder (((christ))) was crucified.

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Now, compare that to Germanic Paganism which is not only older than Christianity but also truly European.

It not only prohibited homosexuality but most importantly Race Mixing which Jews and Christ cucks can't stop promoting.

Tacitus's germania on Pagan German Morals:

Germans do not racemix.
Tacitus says (Ch. 2, “Origion and descent of the Germanics”) that physically, the Germanic peoples appear to be a distinct (indigenous), racially pure nation, not a blood admixture of their neighbors: "For my own part, I agree with those who think that the tribes of Germany are free from all taint of intermarriages with foreign nations…" They are divided into three large branches, the Ingaevones, the Herminones and the Istaevones, deriving their ancestry from three sons of Mannus, son of Tuisto, their common forefather.

Germans are racially pure and healthy.
In Chapter 4, “Racial characteristics of the Germanics“, he attributed to Germanic men and women that they all have common physical characteristics, fierce blue eyes (truces et caerulei oculi = "sky-coloured blue, dark blue), red-blonde hair (rutilae comae = "red, golden-red, reddish yellow, golden-blonde") and tall framers (bodies), vigorous at the first onset but not tolerant of exhausting labour, tolerant of hunger and cold but not of heat.[5]

Germans Reserve death penalty for deserters, faggots.
The death penalty is reserved for two kinds of capital offenses: military treason or desertion was punished by hanging, and moral infamy (cowardice and homosexuality[9]) was punished by throwing the condemned into a bog. The difference in punishment is explained by the idea that "glaring iniquities" must be exposed in plain sight, while "effeminacy and pollution" should best be buried and concealed.[10] Minor legal disputes were settled on a day-to-day basis by elected chiefs assisted by elected officials.[11]

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Germans hold marriage sacred, abortion is criminal.
He also records (Ch. 19, “Sanctity of marriage”) that adultery is detested and very rare, and that an adulterous woman is shaved of her hair and exiled by the community regardless of her beauty. To limit childbearing or to kill children (abortion) is considered criminal. “In Germany good morals (customs) are worth more than good laws.”

Germans Practiced monogamy.
Tacitus says (Ch. 18) that the Germans are content with one wife, except for a few political marriages, and specifically and explicitly compares this practice favorably to other barbarian cultures, perhaps since monogamy was a shared value between Roman and Germanic cultures.

en.metapedia.org/wiki/Germania_(Tacitus)
amazon.com/dp/1463698747/ref=cm_sw_r_tw_awdo_x_tz7fzb44Q9NTJ

Christianity on the other hand, had nothing against Race-Mixing. Bible never talks about race issues and it is only against Christians marrying non christians. Meaning, as long as a negro is a christian there is no bible stopping him from getting married to a white christian woman.

This is why christian White women are more likely to mudshark with Christian Africans than white atheists or pagans.

As a white nationalist, this was a deal breaker for me.

Blacks have been raping and murdering Whites in South Africa since the end of Apartheid but somehow these Christian churches just keep on operating as if there's just been a change in political leadership.

Also the overwhelming majority of donations and aid to Israel and to the Israeli lobby are from zionist christians that literally believe jews are the chosen ones..

I started realizing that christianity was not helping whites but it was helping our (((perpetrators))) instead. This was the first time when I became skeptical of Christianity and its teachings.

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Paganism is very relevant in 2017. Almost all white countries has been infected with this Abrahamic disease called Christianity.

Look at the world today. Paganism has been dead for 1000 years. 1000 years of "social progress" for jews, arabs and christians.

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The degeneracy you see now in the west is what true Christianity represents period.

Pagan Europeans were able to sustain this desert cult because they were pretty rightwing and nationalist back then.

This is literally retarded and shows a pathetically weak understanding of political ideologies, philosophy and theology...impressive.

The left - right divide begins and ends with God. Either God exists, as does truth, natural order (to include the order of races) and we are fallen men seeking stability. Or, nothing exists and all is permitted, i.e., the dogmas of the left and leftism.

If your argument is that Christianity is incompatible with certain elements of white nationalism and some forms of fascism, sure, I'd agree. But, to say Christianity is anti-white and of the left is literally beyond retarded.

Also, that quite is stupidly out of context. It was the same Saint Paul who's constantly called a sexist bigot by left wing Christians.

You right but I wouldn't call it paganism they were practicing some Neo-pagan customs but it wasn't really because they believed in pagan gods, it was more like celebrations of Nazism. Hitlers plan was to replace christian religion with unlimited belief in Reich
Why start worshiping dead religion? Should I start "practicing" religion when I dont believe in it? You cant just say I like paganism so Im going to believe in it, and if yes you are just wannabe and not real believer

great posts, mate

there was a very anti-christian sect of National Socialism indeed, but that doesn't constitute the entirety of National Socialism. I would assume that most Germans who died in uniform and loved Hitler like a father were Christians are at least raised Christian. It would be ridiculous to assume that every German was as enveloped in racial theories and ancestor worship as Himmler was. Even Hitler thought Himmler was wildly eccentric

The Christian Hitler myth is so easily dispelled but no matter what christkike natsocs always scream and shout "muh table talks is FAAAAAAAAAAKE" as though table talks is the only source that mentions Hitler's views on religion.

Fucking EVERY source that's written by close associates and friends of Hitler corroborates with table talks, table talks is far from the only reliable source that mentions Hitler's beliefs and his views on Christianity.

youtu.be/CcOf94gMs8k

This video is the end of the fucking discussion. Adolf Hitler definitely was not a Christian.

Finally, some sanity. I have been telling people this long and long. Christianity is dangerous, as it tells people to do nothing in live to improve the Volk, and only focuses about doing specific ideals to get into heaven, when you realized that this created an apathy for defense, as in the Roman Empire, as many citizens became revolted at it, and had to use Gothic, Vandal, Suebi, Frank, Saxon foederati, who in turn didn't assimilate, thus ending the Roman Empire, and this infected them as well, as the ideals of peace and love, means that the nation is ill-equipped to handle the Pechengs, the Huns, the Magyars, who became Hungarians. Keep in mind. Hungarians originated in the East Urals, farther than the Germanic peoples, not only that, but the Muslims defeated the Christian Byzantines, the Persians, yet centuries of peace, infected by the pacifist religion, caused the religion to become militant. Only by the Reformation, did Christianity became fundamental, spewing Heaven, and individual, and tolerance, love, etc. The Romans had virtus, which was honor, valor, worth, character, and excellence of the morals. Christianity rotted that in 300 years. Supporting love thy enemy, which is complete nonsense, and love thy everyone. This is why the enemy can walk on us. We can't resist because we are now doughboys.

jeez, IDK op

No Idea

youtube.com/watch?v=B6bfIHUTnRw

>aryan paganism prohibited homosexuality
i really hope you dont believe this
it only looked down on life relationships, not sex

>out of context quotes from Hitler about Islam
>out of context quotes from Hitler on Christianity
You neopagan shills aren't even trying

He's right you know...

Goebbels was excommunicated and stole student loans from priests

Im pretty sure that quote is fake
>Hitler said our land was given to us by god
must be christian!
>Hitler met with bishop
must be christian!
great evidence m8

>Himmler, Hitler and many more high ranked nazis HATED christianity and saw it as the enemy of the third reich.

Irrelevant as Nazism was bigger than a handful of men at the top. Nazism was an organic expression of countless Germans, so it didn't matter how butthurt those fedoras at the top were about Christianity since Christianity would still play a huge role in the shaping of Nazi culture as the average Nazi was a Christian.

Nazi leadership opposed the will of the Christian majority at their own peril. Without the loyalty and will of the German people behind them they immediately revert back to a handful of misanthropic old men with no power.

...for marrying a protestant

Also peace was a softening force. The German state was to be in perpetual war, where there would be conflict in the Urals and to harden soldiers, and to prevent softness.

its not its from his newspaper article in the volkisher beobacther

excommunicated nonetheless

Ashamed of OP. I am Swiss too. You're a trash one.

Shove ALL this (((propoganda))) up your ass. Any Pro-Christian quote by Hitler is from a SPEECH, and any Anti-Christian quote is from POST-WAR (((forgeries))).

>Any Pro-Christian quote by Hitler is from a SPEECH
he was trying to get christians support, most of germany at the time was christian he couldnt just say fuck it bois lets go full pagan

obviously had his own criticisms of institutional western religion relative to what they were doing with Islam

That's grasping at straws. No matter what conclusions you draw, the fact is that unless you could have him state his opinion right now, he presented himself as Christian. Hard.

Some english newspaper wanted to tell me these days, that himmler saved 300.000 jews from being gassed.

funny how he never talked about jesus by name. and how the state sanctioned positive christianity

it's pretty obvious Hitler was a spiritual person but never a "true" Christian

Are you joking?

What is a Christian? He said Cross.

He followed in the footsteps of Jesus by physically removing Jews. The New Testament is the most anti-Judaism book on Earth.

While not a Christian, Hitler thought pagan LARPing was retarded.

Hitler wasn't a Pagan nor was he a Christian or an Atheist. He is most accurately described as a pantheist. The laws of nature were sacred to him, he basically considered the laws of nature and what it has produced as the will and manifestation of God. To Hitler, reality was God, and the laws of reality were, naturally, the will and "laws" of God.

In Mein Kampf and many other sources he often says things like "to go against the natural order is to SIN against the will of eternal providence" lots and lots of references to this vague "eternal providence" and how he himself "comes from providence" that sort of sentiment bares all the hallmarks of pantheism. Hitler didn't believe in a personal God he could pray to and understand but he did believe that the laws of nature were literally sacred. Whenever Hitler said that he was doing God's work or engraved "Gott mit uns" on belt buckles, the God he was talking about wasn't the Christian God, it wasn't Odin. It was mother nature.

You only have to read what he wrote about nature to appreciate how sacred the subject was to him. He speaks of it with just as much passion and reverence as any devout theist speaks about the will of their God.
youtu.be/CcOf94gMs8k

Bruh, get over it. He wasn't a Christian. The evidence is overwhelming. if you want a good Christian fascist to admire check out cadreanu.

No idea, medkit. What I want to know is why the idea persists that christcucking is relevant to anything.

Meant to post this video actually, as an example of how Hitler speaks about nature.
youtube.com/watch?v=-PoNDRD8k1c

Codreanu wasn't really a fascist, he was just fond of Mussolini. The iron guard was its own thing

If you are speaking about modern people, then it is pure ignorance through social engineering.

Nazism had a bastardized version of Christianity that replaced God with Hitler, just like the vestiges of Christianity in Communism replaced God with Stalin- it was just for keeping the Christians in check.

The Nazi movement, in fact, was saturated with pagan and occult symbols. The whole "Nazi Christians" meme is just atheist propaganda to add to Christianity's "death toll".

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Those are the One World Government churches you see there. Main liners have never been real believers, or actually practiced Biblical principles. They are the Antichrist churches. And actually someone you would relate to.

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No one said pro-white.

Nationalism in the sense of NatSoc was a Christian Nation.

What a shit meme.

....faggot.

>that quote
The party had lots of people who attacked the ideas of Christianity. That's not even debatable, it's a well known fact.

you aren't a "true" christian if you don't believe in the equality of all peoples

Bruh, get over it. Despite quotes made by the man in the presence of no less than 10,000 witnesses.

Despite being monogamous, a non-smoker, non-drinker, anti-heathen, God-fearing man.

Based gadsdenfag BTFOing all the godcucks ITT

We are reaching a new level of Christ-insanity that shouldn't even be possible!

Now, what is a "Christian Nation?" Well, let me explain. Take Brazil for example, it is very Christian. It is also a violent mixed race shit hole.

So a Christian nation is a violent mixed race shit hole where everyone is Christian, i.e. where everyone bend their knees to dead kike on a stick while being anal fucked by pedo priests.

Now, very important thing that needs to be addressed:
Christ cucks claim that Jews hate Christianity. This is not true. Christianity is now the forerunner of multiculturalism and race mixing and it literally started as a sect of Jews for the goyim to follow.

Supporting Christianity because some old Jews hate it, is pretty dumb. It's like saying Jews drink water so we should stop drinking water!

Jews don't hate christians - Jews hate white people. If Jews really hated Christians/Christianity (their own sect for the goyim to follow) then why Jews are helping black and hispanic "christians?" Weaponising them against the white race?

See, nobody except Christfags care about their shitty religion that has been dead for so long. Almost all of the so called real christians died out a long time ago, killed by the muslims and kikes. They were brown desert hippies who were too weak to survive. All of your holy sites are owned by kikes and muslims, and they desecrate them. You couldn't even keep hold of them after your "deus vult" shit.
That's not the kind of religion I want in any white nation.

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This is so false it's embarassing.

If you don't read and study the Bible, dont speak on it. You'll get owned.

Yes, but to be fair that quote was well before the invasion of Poland. I believe there was a point when the boys realizes the (((Vatican's))) true colors. Intel leaks abound. Hitler's only mistake was trusting (((Catholics))). Can't blame him though, no internet back then.

Lol another day another triggered Jew worshiper. Sup Forums is not a degenerate Christian board, this is a white nationalist board.

Go back to your pozzed church and bend your knees to dead kike on a stick while being ass fucked by your pedo priests christfag.

>German propaganda
>in English

Nice try

Holy fuck I triggered this guy by calling him a faggot and making fun of his snaek flag.

Not reading any of that.

Hitler hated papists

According to degrelle he was anti clerical but not anti catholic

Catholicism was the most widely practiced religion in Germany during the rise of the Third Reich, which is likely why people assume NS is a predominantly christian movement.
However, 'Gottglaubig', the idea of believing in God and divine law while getting rid of the practices of organized religion, was promoted and became increasingly popular. If anything, the Third Reich was simply theist and promoted no religion officially.

>This is so false it's embarassing.

yeah, then every christian organization in the world is wrong. the only real christian are the muh deus vult larpers on Sup Forums

european christians))) have been converting non-europeans for centuries

Papists one and all bow to their king in Rome.

1st Google result: www.vanityfair.com/style/1999/10/pope-pius-xii-199910/amp

Please archive archive.is/1eDXL

You refuted nothing. It's true that christ cucks have really low iq. I mean, this is not surprising to me because the forces I clash with on a daily basis are Jews in and Christians. I don't seek confirmation of what I already feel I know.

You don't even know the Bible.

"Every person is equal" is JEW, NWO bullshit.

There are the saved, the unsaved and those who willingly reject God's Word.

2 Corinthians 6:14
Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness

Ephesians 5:11
And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

My bad

There's also the whole "temple chimp-out" thing with whipping Jews.

>Pope Pius XII
Even your supposedly based Christians are anti-white Jew lovers.

>Being unironically Christian in 2017 on white nationalist board.
Kek

this is just talking about believers and non-believers, cretin

>There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus

all christians care about is religion. "christian nationalist" is a oxymoron

The solution to (((christian))) problem. Great persecution when? Hail Diocletian!

>pepe pius
WOAH

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