Why is communism so efficient?

why is communism so efficient?

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That's state capitalism, so the better question is, "Why is National Socialism so efficient?"

>posts obvious money laundering boondoggle
>Gee guise, why day so effizient?

UNDER BUDGET

AHEAD OF SCHEDULE

because it isn't real communism

No rural and suburban retards = maximum efficiency

why would a government need to launder its own currency?

Because you show pride in your own race combined with high IQs.

"NOT REAL COMMUNISM"
You have become the people you despise. Comedy gold.

Is the solar grid efficient though

businessinsider.com/how-china-went-from-communist-to-capitalist-2015-10

china gave up on communism years ago

And here's the archive unvis.it/businessinsider.com/how-china-went-from-communist-to-capitalist-2015-10

Because the country is one big slave plantation

>county is literally, LITERALLY, (not figuratively) run by the Chinese COMMUNIST Party
>"NOT REAL COMMUNISM"
Communism when it suits you, capitalism when it doesn't.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_property_law

Article 13 of the constitution provided that: "The lawful private property of citizens shall be inviolable. The country shall protect in accordance with law citizens' private property rights and inheritance rights. The country may, as necessitated by public interest, expropriate or requisition citizens' private property and pay compensation therefor." It can thus be seen that China's property laws have been undergoing developments. The most recent development would be the enactment of the Property Law in March 2007 (after 14 years of debates), which is noted as one of the most important core components of the evolving civil law in the PRC.

unironically it's not real communism

Because if you're not, they'll kill you. Private sector could still do it better.

"NOT REAL COMMUNISM"

>slave plantation

how is this different from wagecucking?

>what is great depression

Sungrow is a private corporation

china still has several aspects of communism, it's where all of their human rights violations come from.

North Korea is LITERALLY ran by a republic

STOP saying that communism ruined it!!!!!!!

>implying fascism gives a fuck about human rights

>"BUT NORTH KOREA SAYS IT'S A LIBERAL DEMOCRACY SO YOUR ARGUMENT IS INVALID"
>North Korea's official ideology is Juche
Every time.

>a rose by any other name...

Fuck off retard I can smell the lefty/pol/ falseflagger on you

>have billions of chink peasants to boss around
>wonder why they can do giant products efficiently

meanwhile 90% of those peasants can barely afford to feed themselves

>solar
>not nuclear

jews aren't human

One has the illusion of freedom

>they have some markets and attracted FDI to build a lot of shit
>this means they are capitalists just like the west lol

what does fascism have to do with the change in chinas economic policies?

>China
>Communist
Pick one faggot.

>"when leftists say that it's not real communism because it literally doesn't meet the definition of communism that's being a lying coward, but when i say it's not real communism for the exact same reason i am an enlightened intellectual"
The only basis for your argument is "it's okay when we do it."

You're an infant.

Because the goal isn't to keep people starving and in submission like capitalism.

because gooks can't into nuclear energy without cutting massive corners and polluting a large are with radiation

china would much rather their power source rust and sink as opposed to melt down and blow up

they know full well none of this shit is getting properly maintained

...

Wow, a Chinese works project requiring massive maintenance. Surely this thing won't start to fall apart within the next few years. Cheers.

because they're fascist?

pls go away leftypol it's so obvious when you faggots show up

Germany is run by a christian party. Name alone means shit.

China did try Communism. And it didn't work. Today, they are no longer Communist. It's some bizarre hybrid--with a wealthy business class and a slave class to produce cheap junk for export.

But THAT'S what you get with a Marxist materialist values system. Because communist "economics" literally doesn't work. Not even on paper.

Whether or not today's China is efficient is also debatable.

>why are insects so good at building shit fast

>why is communism so efficient?
Because they murder all the trannies and homos

Because it's NBD if people work themselves to death in the process

It won't, why are you so jealous of the chinks? Maybe because why they are leaving their villages to drive ferraris in futuristic megacities you are stuck with faggot liberals who demand you to kill yourself for being a bigot?

they are self aware

...

>when leftists say it's not real communism when property is collectivized but people die of starvation, they're lying
>when I say it's not real communism when property isn't collectivized, I'm not lying

Wow, that was easy! Looks like I'm getting really good at sniffing the smell of ammonia from the urine-stained underwear of you unwashed drug-addicts as well. Fuck off back to laffy/pol/

they'll probably just build a bigger/better one. one of their main problems is overproduction

And it's full name is "Democratic People's Republic of Korea". Note the use of the word "democratic" for that dictatorship. Names can be misleading my child.

lol not at all

go look up the definition of private property in the communist manifesto , then go read chinas private property laws.

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/ch02.htm

the theory of the Communists may be summed up in the single sentence: Abolition of private property.

Abolition of private property.

then chinas private property law..

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_property_law

In 2004, the fourth amendment to the constitution was made. Article 13 of the constitution provided that: "The lawful private property of citizens shall be inviolable. The country shall protect in accordance with law citizens' private property rights and inheritance rights. The country may, as necessitated by public interest, expropriate or requisition citizens' private property and pay compensation therefor."


The lawful private property of citizens shall be inviolable.

inviolable

adjective
never to be broken, infringed, or dishonored.

so it literally is not communism

Venezuela tried Communism. Starvation, murder, and a dictatorship is the result.

no it's perfectly fitting actually. christcucks love to suck refugee cock to virtue signal. they love to dance on their children corpse and forgive people who killed them to pretend they've got piety. christcucks were the original virtue signalers in this world so it's natural they're the ones who put the final blow into europe

China has a stranglehold on the rare earth metals used to make solar panels. Of course they are able to do this, they basically control how many solar panels can be made.

both are shit systems that destroy countries, china is doing so well economically because they are going apeshit on capitilism to the point that they've made unions illegal

same reason the living standard of north korea is slowly going up, they are on the downlow allowing the free market to function and people are actually trading and producing goods on their own accord, so people in big cities can, shock horror, buy their children toys now

At last, intelligent conversation.

I think it's disingenuous to say that Chinese communism was a flat-out failure. Deng's reforms wouldn't have been possible without the centralised state that Mao created and we can see today how the decentralisation that is inherent in freer markets is undermining Beijing's ability to rule its own country. Guandong province has its own private navy that it uses to stir shit up in the SCS against the express instruction from Beijing - imagine if Florida was sending ships to raid Cuba against the orders of the President. A country can't function like that for long.

China's economics revolves around keeping those in power, in power. The rich who support and make up the party need to stay rich and influential, so that's one goal. The economic growth China's experiencing needs to continue to ensure that there's no unrest, so that's two goal. And the provinces and 'little emperors' need to be kept under control to prevent them undermining Beijing, so that's three goal.

China's a fascinating place and I can't wait to go back there, but it's nothing like anything we have in the West. It's not communist or capitalist, and "state capitalist" doesn't fully encapsulate the backroom dynamic where party influence controls the entire economy. China's economy is still 100% state-run, but it's state-run from behind closed doors through an old boy's network of rich powerbrokers in the CCP.

But at the same time it's not just a Chinese version of Putin's mafia state. It's not an all-out scramble for money by gluttonous oligarchs (though it definitely is that as well). The Chinese have one eye on the immediate profits but they're also playing the long game in a way that the Russians aren't.

You're right that China's "miracle growth" is wildly overstated and it's nowhere near as efficient or great as we're told. Half the country still lives basically as fucking peasants.

i'm sure you could make the argument that their economy is closer to fascism than anything else, it certainly has very nationalistic policies and tendencies.

If ANYONE needed this solar plant, it was China

"NOT
REAL
COMMUNISM"

Pathetic, try harder.

Anything communists do is real communism according to you chucklefucks.

fascism and capitalism aren't mutually exclusive. exhibit: china

That's not classic communist. They mix capitalism with communist

You have no idea what you're talking about.

It went from having no nuclear power to speak of to being the 4th largest operator of nuclear power plants in like a decade and a half.
And it's reactor fleet is expanding quite rapidly.
Almost 2 dozen reactors are under construction right now.

>nationalistic
>with a pinch of socialism
>eugenic
>very effective at building stuff
HMMM Where have I heard of such a model before?

i mean they're politically fascist. economically capitalist

Misrepresentation is not a satisfactory substitute for an argument. Now fuck off back to laffypole where you can circlejerk about where the line should be placed between personal and private property with the rest of your low test eunuch comrades.

what is your argument here exactly? you acknowledge that china is no longer a communist economy here the contention isn't that it's not 'real' communism , it's just not communism any longer.

>extremist pragmatic
>706.4 on pollution

what is the extremist pragmatic solution to this problem?

>Commie does something bad
>Ha ha communist is shit!
>Commie does something good
>Not real communist!
And vice versa

>yfw solarplants don't work because you can't see the sun through all the smog

where?

agreed.

socialism with Chinese characteristics is L I T E R A L L Y not communism

Chink communist do not support faggotry, transfaggotry and 3rd world immigration. They actually looked up to the west to base their development goals.
You, on the other hand...

Nowhere actually, they're still far from being environmentalists or compassionate toward each other.
But at least the similarities are there.

It's not the government, they're actually trying to stop their companies from doing this. It's private companies. Once the government starts cracking down on mainland corruption and laundering they just proceed to do it overseas in Australia or Africa, or sometimes even the EU. Bitcoin and every crypto that is held by a lot of Chinese is a form of this

if men can go to war to fight and die for a country then they can give up their life because of poor health. they're obviously gaining capital and then will invest it into their own country. within 10 years they will be planting as many trees as the rain forest and doing other things to solve the smog issue so the best people on the planet move there

fake commie detected

that's correct
the state does stupid shit
the smartest thing china did was permit designated cities to experiment with free trade and business which has enabled their economy to grow
now they are reaping the fruits of the people's labor

>through all the smog

why do you think they're investing in clean energy dumbfuck?

What's going to happen to all that shit when it's not a calm day on the sea I wonder...

>what is your argument here exactly?
There are two arguments.

First is that you're all hypocrites who I have no reason to take seriously because you will ascribe every failure in a country run by communists to communism no matter what happens while every success in a country run by communists to capitalism no matter what happens. The country is literally fucking run by the CCP, yet you cannot - even through clenched teeth - admit that the communist party has performed a veritable economic triumph. You will sit there and screech about how they're secretly capitalists according to a fucking 1850s understanding of leftist ideology as if the intervening 150 years never happened and ideologies aren't allowed to evolve.

Secondly, China is neither capitalist nor communist anyway, it's its own unique thing. Chinese politics are as complex as the entire politics of the entirety of Europe - makes sense, because it's about the same number of people. Actually, China has even more people of Europe. You wouldn't sit down in 1974 and say "Europe is X" because that doesn't make any fucking sense. Why does anyone think it's possible to do the same for China? Full retard.

>why do you think they're investing in clean energy dumbfuck?
because they already can't see the sun
do you think they will just stop producing things while they wait for the sky to clear?

there is nothing christian about the CDU any longer except vestiges to keep the moronic middle class in their fold. party names mean jackshit

They systematically stopped using Communism in order to be productive and progress.

You are literally ignorant.

>support faggotry, transfaggotry
uh, no sure why you think these need to be listed first. asian traps are the best on the planet.

the issue with the west is white women want to destroy white men and are flooding the west with shitskins to ruin the demographic. it isn't easy to ruin a civilization but white women managed it

Time to stock up on geiger counters.

>As well as accelerating its investment in renewables, China has also been putting the brakes on its fossil fuel consumption. In January this year, the country's energy regulator brought a stop to more than 100 coal-fired power plants under construction across the country, with a combined output of 100 gigawatts (GW).

weforum.org/agenda/2017/06/china-worlds-largest-floating-solar-power/

what is transition

Why is nuclear power still a thing? I seems unsafe and expensive to maintain. Unlike Solar power that requires little to no maintenance

they should double down on pollution
then make post-apocalyptic survival a tourism activity

>First is that you're all hypocrites who I have no reason to take seriously because you will ascribe every failure in a country run by communists to communism

AHAHAHAH!

You deluded fucking retard. I already BTFO you right here: Now, once again, fuck off back to your stupid little den of "revolutionaries" where you can beat yourselves off over how 'inevitable' communism is despite every communist country effectively collapsing back into capitalism.

If western countries adopted 3rd world building standards and slave labour they'd produce shit like that in no time too.
The question is how many chinks died making it and how many times a week will it catch fire?

>transition
something only the mentally ill do

>asian traps are the best on the planet.

they don't serve in the military. next

i guess that would include us

>it's not christian to flood your country with shitskins
yes it is. it's the defining christian feature. nobody but christcucks think like this on the ENTIRE planet. liberals just follow an abominable christcuck doctrine regarding race and make it slightly more extreme.

christcucks were the original people who thought all races were equal. all races are equal so letting in 1 billion shitskins makes sense.

Well this is what happens when you don't spend your money on importing and keeping alive non whites

Nuclear pumps out the most power and is pretty safe in the hands of the right engineers.

>Why is nuclear power still a thing?
To make nukes, duh