How do you convince someone socialism is bad?

How do you convince someone socialism is bad?

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Let them try it

The mother fucker lives in Norway and he says its great there

So it's not really that bad then, maybe you're the one who's wrong

Massive taxation for public programs =\= socialism

Sweeden.

>Norway
>Socialist

Right, because socialism totally didn't open the doors to a tyrant to destroy my country
elaborate please

Socialism literally turned my grand-father from a country boy to a UN representative, true story
Personal anecdotes only will get you so far

Open market, democratic, government doesnt own the means of production

You can't. Socialists have no brain.

Norway isn't a Socialist country. It's left of center for funding social programs, but it's not a Socialist country. The means of production doesn't belong to the community as a whole

This is a simple start

I know that very well, burgers and bongs are absolute garbage whenever actual political and economic theory is involved and misuse words and concepts constantly
My family does come from a formerly socialist country though

It's a mixed economy, it is not socialist.

France is not socialist, where are you from and who is your grand-father?

Tell them the main motivator of economic productivity is the desire to independently acquire the basics of life for yourself. If this is no longer impressive or required then people will stop being productive.

Not to mention that the government couldn't possibly know the best way to allocate an individual's labor better than the individual himself. That actually might be a stronger argument because it appeals to the sense of muh individualism that liberals love.

Oops sorry user I replied to the wrong person. Meant to say that to op

Family is from Poland
Not telling who my late grand-father was obviously, he did science stuff is all I'll say
My father and his siblings all learned fluent french when he was stationed in Geneva, and he became the head of his field's related association on his return to the homeland
No biggie

get him a job

Wait till he wants to get something expensive and then he realizes he can't afford it because he's taxed out his ass.

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>they all starve to death, but it's okay because at least they're equally starving

Ask them if they agree with the statement that people respond to incentives (this is an established truth in economics)

If they do -- or you convince them that it's true -- ask them what happens near- to long-term when you introduce a system that penalizes the rich, competent, and successful, and rewards the poor, inept, and unsuccessful