Is this true that these three religions are killing europe?

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Liberalism is

Christianism certainly is

suer dumb or shitty troll?
who can tell?

The unholy alliance of progressivism and neoliberalism is destroying the west, religion is irrelevant

ID Semite

KEK

No, religion is. Religion breeds weak people like liberals.

Europe is dying of old age.
For example, Spain's fertility rate is around half that of the replacement rate. The past few years it has grown to 1.33 (still well bellow the replacement threshold), but only because of the massive immigration and immigrants having 3 to 5 kids.
While numbers might not be the same in other European countries, the must be not that far off.

A few dozen deaths a year by terrorism don't really mean a thing* in countries with millions of people. The problem is the native population doesn't reproduce, and it's being replaced.

* It would obviously hurt if any of the victims was a loved one, but you know what I mean.

Yes. Semitic religions. Semitic Gods.
Should be for Semitic people, not European people.

Muslims are the biggest threat by far. You don't see Jews roaming the streets like you do in America. Christianity is dead.

Funny majority of atheists are liberals.

Religion is violent.
Religion breeds liberals.

OK there Buddy.

>seMiTE

USA and Canada white people also have the same feritlity rate as Europe, Paco. So I guess USA and Canada are also dying of old age?

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jews started and control all religions

Europe was made great by Christian vales and laws.
Muslims, jews and godless devil worshipers are destroying Europe.

That FUCKING ID

there is no religion fueled community pressure to have kids and to refuse birth control which was common only a generation or two ago

current day western peoplee realize children are a massive inconvenience so they tend to have one for the experience with no additional to provide what they view as an uneccesary burden considering they are already getting the "experience" of parenthood with a single child

>declining birthrates are based on reasonable personal life choices and not a jew conspiracy

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Maybe? I might have not used the proper term, I meant the population is growing older and older. In no time (a few decades) it will be unsustainable over here.

Serious question: given that charging interest rates is a sin for christians, how would a modern christian nation work? Having a national bank that provides credit without asking for interest?

You're logic is flawed.
>be Europe
>All modern nations majority Christian since when they first began.
>No mudslimes anywhere they can be fought off
>Jews expelled over 100 times
>Liberalism + French Revolution
>Atheism and Nihilism grows
>Fascism arises as a response
>WW2
>Fascist nations lose
>"Fascist" ideologies banned across Europe
>Nationalism linked to Fascism
>Open border and pro-refugee polices expand
>Europe suffers
No where along the course of European history does Christianity serve as a detrimental influence compared to the more recently developed beliefs of modern Europe. Christians cannot be Nihilist, nor do they abort their offspring like atheists do. The most Christian states in the US are the most pro-white.

and islam?

The flag and ID have spoken, Paganism needs to be the prevalent religion again in Europe

i mean choosing to live with a higher standard of living at the expense of a hypothetical "richer parenthood experience" that having more children would provide isn't a difficult concept to grasp

>jew, muslim, and catholic
Yep. You should add in an atheist though.

>seMITE

This

nice one retard

>Muslims are the biggest threat by far. You don't see Jews roaming the streets like you do in America.

Actually you don't see either Jews or Muslims roaming the streets in America, they're both less than 3% of the population

Hahaha fuck

Maybe it was too early for French liberalism. Christianity keeps you open to ideas, but all that at once, too much.

>Christianity keeps you open to ideas, but all that at once, too much.

You guys seriously are retarded. Dropping Christianity was literally, and I mean literally, the best thing Europe ever did in it's history. Europe could only become so great after the Church's influence started waning, and it became even greater as religion was pushed out of power and politics completely. Islam did more for the Middle East than Christianity did for Europe, that tells you much.

>credit

Pater noster, qui es in caelis:
sanctificetur nomen tuum;
adveniat regnum tuum;
fiat voluntas tua, sicut in caelo, et in terra.
Panem nostrum cotidianum da nobis hodie;
et dimitte nobis debita nostra,
sicut et nos dimittimus debitoribus nostris;
et ne nos inducas in tentationem;
sed libera nos a malo.

Why are you speaking Latin and posting an Orthodox meme?

>>Dropping Christianity was literally, and I mean literally, the best thing Europe ever did in it's history.

>>Europe leaves Jesus.
Muslims invade and rape their women.

Were are the atheists to literally defend them?

Because the English translations have the word debt and debtor changed into trespass and trespassers , And a spanish fag would have an easier time understanding latin than Greek.
It is also debt in every Orthodox church prayers books and orally transmitted prayer versions. Where the word debt isn't only about money, but includes money. Roman Catholics and other heretics have been jewed for too long.

...even though most devout christians are conservative and most atheists are liberal faggots

>>Europe leaves Jesus.

That wasn't what happened you retard. Instead Jews corrupted capitalism and created a system that can only be maintained by constant economic and more importantly, population growth. The Germans, French, UK, etc, in their desperation to maintain high birthrates have succumbed to accepting migrants to keep the system going, some the US has been doing ever since it's inception (except that the US mostly took in white people since there were many white refugees, after 1960's Germany rose up again and became prosperous, white refugees except Slavs stopped coming to US and instead brown people did).

Germany has one of the oldest population on Earth with low birthrates. German mayors were begging the federal government send immigrants because everybody was getting old and population decreasing. This is all a recent phenomena which is why so many migrants are being accepted into Europe. During the prosperous 70's to 90's in Europe there were nearly no immigrants because birthrates were decent.

The problem here isn't that we left the Christcuck religion, but rather we accepted a system that is bound to fail due to low birthrates which become a reality after prosperity has been achieved. What happened to Europe also happened to Japan, except that Japan accepted it's fate and accepts no migrants. Result? Decreasing population, stagnating economy and bleak future. Jesus didn't do anything for Europe.

you're killing europe with this stupid fucking thread that keeps getting posted OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN JESUS

FUCK OFF IDIOT

>seMiTE

Liberal Atheism is the Answer to uncuck europe.
Hows that going for Europe.

All atheists have the same story.
>Hurr durr i had too much autism and social Anxiety to continue a thousand year old tradition that the last 20-25 generations of my blood valued above all

Islam is maybe killing Europe, Judaism and Christianity are not Europe.

We're in a complicated situation here, this is going to blow up no matter what Euro govts do

>Continue accepting migrants. White natives get mad and chimp out, destroying economy.

>Stop accepting immigrants. Economy plunges, white natives get mad and chimp out.

If you want to know what would happen to Europe if it stopped accepting migrants, then just look at Japan. Japan doesn't accept refugees/immigrants like West do. What happened? Japan's population literally decreased by over 1.3 million since 2011, mind you this is not simply a case of "low birthrates", but too many old people. What else? Complete economic stagnation; the Japanese economy under Shinzo Abe has barely grown by 3% since he took power over 10 years ago. As time advances, Japan's population graph looks like an upside down pyramid which spells inevitable chaos for the country down the road.

This is Japan we're talking about here, with the most smartest and hardworking population on Earth. If Japan stood no chance, why would Europe?

In my opinion, liberal atheism is the solution, but a moderate version of it. There is no "multiculturalism", immigrants are kept to a low number and are constantly reminded they exist only for economic purpose. Like what the US is doing.

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>Jews hold all the power
>Highly religious
>Muslims hit constant huge strikes and don't care if they die doing it because they believe it's for a purpose higher than themselves
>Highly religious
>"LMAO DUDE LIKE NO BORDERS XD ROFL CHECK YOUR PRIVILEGE! WHY CAN'T LIKE ALL OF THOSE STARVING AFRICANS JUST MOVE HERE WE HAVE PLENTY SPACE LOL XD FUCK JESUS!"
>No religion

You're absolutely right. Please talk a long walk off a short pier whenever you like.

>CATHOLICISM IS EUROPE
CATHOLOCISM IS EUROPE
>CATHOLICISM IS EUROPE
CATHOLOCISM IS EUROPE
>CATHOLICISM IS EUROPE
CATHOLOCISM IS EUROPE
>CATHOLICISM IS EUROPE
CATHOLOCISM IS EUROPE

>>Liberal atheism is the solution.
European genocide.

>>There is no "multiculturalism"
White Women get raped everyday by muslim immigrants.

No voice coming from atheists.
You don't speak out because your scared of being called a racist.

>christianity
what the hell does christianity do to kill europe?

So Roman Catholicism, Anglicanism, etc. that were founded throughout Europe and advanced European society have nothing to do with Europe?

Religion offers people safety by being a conformist group build on lies so the weak can be protected when they can not compete with other people. These religious people who manage to have kids will pass on these weak r-selected conformist genes, their kids will eventually become liberals over generations. Strong K-selected people never needed religion because their labor and rational consistency was key to their survival.

So it's this regressive leftist slave class bred by religion who is responsible for all the decay in the west.

>White Women get raped everyday by muslim immigrants.

No they don't, stop exaggerating bullshit. We know it's already happened but it's not a common thing. You all like to make fun of Sweden and etc but you don't realize Sweden has an extremely low crime rate, much smaller than the US even in per capita terms.

>European genocide.

That's the cost of maintaining a highly prosperous economy. Capitalism requires constant population growth and any slowed down population growth results in stagnation. There should be a compromise, smaller immigration for slightly smaller profits. I'm looking at this from an objective point, eventually if the white population decreases too much it will results in civil strife and possibly civil war, which is much worse than economic stagnation or crash. Thus we need to make it so that majority status of whites is never threatened, but small immigration still being done to ensure perpetual population growth.

In reality immigrants really don't commit that many crimes, I'm not a specialist about European statistics but here in Canada immigrants commit much less crime than natives. My city, Montreal, one of the most multicultural cities in the world, only had 23 homicides out of a population of 1.7 million, a record low number in 2016.

We need to look at this objectively. All "muh feels" shit needs to stop. This includes accepting refugees to virtue-signal for the left and the extreme paranoia of immigrant with creation of civil unrest for the right. A middle ground needs to be found here.

Sure

Keep lying to yourself if it makes you feel better.
Ignoring reality has consequences.

>Capitalism requires constant population growth and any slowed down population growth results in stagnation.

This it's ridiculous, can we stop this or do anything about it, because it will ultimately destroy humanity and there's no pussyfooting around it.

>That's the cost of maintaining a highly prosperous economy. Capitalism requires constant population growth and any slowed down population growth results in stagnation.

So? Get rid of the Marxist deconstruction of the formerly healthy Western Civilisation so that White people grow again.

How do you do, fellow semites?

This is the only truth in this thread.

NatSoc / WN is mostly about emotion. The weak men who espouse these ideas are scared life is going to be as hard for them as for everyone else, so they act like they're the oppressed victims. Literally the mirror image of the far left. Just with less women and more sexual frustration, so they tend to be more violent.

I would much appreciate you try to either disprove the facts I've presented or propose a better solution than what I have in mind.

It's the best system we have. It's the best system to ensure the world's GDP continues to grow at it's maximum. It's objectively the best system. It won't destroy humanity, it will make humanity as strong and big as possible. But the downside is that it will also destroy individual cultures and racial identity. The Jews with this system are paving the way for a collectivist pan-human race.

>He thinks Jews are responsible for low birthrates

Explain Japan.
Explain South Korea.
Explain CHINA.

Yes, China, the country with the largest population on Earth, is facing a demographic crisis as the population is growing too old. This problem is getting so out of hand that the CCP abandoned the One Child policy and are trying to bring up the birthrates. Falling birthrates aren't an effect of Jewish Marxist culture, it's an effect of the economic reality that follows prosperity. Those countries I've named have no "muh immigrants", "muh refugees", "muh degeneracy" cultural elements like the West do, but are still having birthrate problems.

Trust me, I used Japan as an example for today, but in 20 years I will be using China as an example of how refusing to accept immigrant negatively affects the economy. Make your choice.

>It's the best system to ensure the world's GDP continues to grow at it's maximum.

Why we want that?

Shouldn't we want to live free and healthy, those two things aren't directly related.

Religion is one of, if not THE, biggest social divisions in man kind. Religion in its most basic concept, IS DIVISION. Think about most faiths besides buddishm:
>I am a part of belief group A
>We are "pure" or "sinless"
> by default, there are people who are "in sin" or "stained" or "unpure"
This naturally leads to resentment of the people who do not follow the teachings and practices of the religion. I used to see this shit every day for 14 years being forced to go to church growing up. Jews think they are better than gentiles, christians think they are better than homosexuals or sinners, islam ( do i even need to go there?)
The sooner the world discards religion the sooner we get one step closer to not arbitrarily hating groups because of their beliefs. Not to mention the effects of religious morality on social laws. (muh seperation of church and state). There are many things that are illegal because faith deems them as immoral, but shit takes place every day in nature. (see killing babies/abortion)
Fuck all of you religious crazies. The funniest/saddest part about it is you think you are doing "gods will" and making the world a better place. Fucking L O L.

>seMiTE

ahahahahahahahahaha

In the world you dream of, standards of living are much lower, but yes homogeneity is preserved. Sad truth is : People can't tolerate lower standards of living. Western govts in face of this situation had 2 options.

>Prioritize the economy, which the majority of the people hold dearly.

>Prioritize homogeneity, which a minority of the people hold dearly.

You already know which side the gov chose. Put yourself in the shoes of the governments, don't you think it's rational? Remember, think about this objectively. Govts today care more about economic growth than racial and cultural preservation.

But at the time the system was deviced the governments weren't in control of the population growth, but they are now.

Higher standars of living just mean better things and you don't need a higher global GDP to have good things, you just need to make those good things, also, high sandar of living in the current world means:

Clean air.
Clean healthy food.
Education
Space.

All of them are things farm people have, highly populated cities are the places people escape in order to have high standars of living.

The problem with your theory is that third world immigration fucks your economy and quality of life.

They are all 3 abrahams religion against goyim

Think of this on the global stage. Capitalism and globalization has brought BILLIONS of humans out of poverty. Capitalism and globalization has saved BILLIONS of human lives. Capitalism and globalization has increased the world GDP the most in recorded history.

Beyond you getting mad at the percentage of whites decreasing in your country by a couple percent, globalism and capitalism are the two greatest things to ever happen to humanity, quite objectively. And I stress the use of the word "humanity", because I really am talking about all of the human race here.

Yes, the system was proposed by the Jews, but your democratically-elected leaders accepted the system. Listen, whatever choice or beliefs you will hold, I will respect, as long as you know the facts at the very least.

When you look at the long term it really doesn't. The majority of immigrants later give birth to children who become productive citizens. Don't forget, the majority of the government's revenue comes from taxes of the people. The whole problem with less birthrates is that there are less taxpayers and thus less revenue.

Don't be naive, the governments aren't doing this to feel good about themselves, they're doing this because they know immigrants eventually assimilate and become productive citizens. The cruelty of government is seen when the govt realizes that some "undesirables" aren't productive and ignores them while pretending they don't exist. This is the case in my country with the First Nations. This is the case in Europe with Gypsies. Those two groups in need of help are stepped upon by the govt because they don't do anything for the economy, while immigrants do. Majority of economists agree on this.

I like this pdf article by the OECD talking about migration. Please stop pushing me in a position where it looks like I'm defending refugees. I'm not defending refugees. I'm not defending mass-immigration.

I don't doubt what market capitalism has done so far, but it's not going to work forever.

That's all.

Here's the article, I like it because you can see it's really not politicized and is rather objective

oecd.org/migration/OECD Migration Policy Debates Numero 2.pdf

Also I was going to finish off by saying

I'm only defending moderate immigration through an extensive screening process. I'd love it if it was mostly white (Many Poles and Ukrainians have migrated to my city) but otherwise respect the others too.

LOL @ ID

The Gods have a sense of humor and they have chosen an auspice we can not ignore.

Worship the Gods of your ancestors, listen to the semite, he's correct.

Jesus was a cool guy but too peaceful, bring back the All Father. Bring back Poseidon, they pay attention to other worlds while ours ignores them.

I really don't believe this. I'm American 32y/o, have two kids one on the way, my siblingsall have kids, my wife's siblings all have kids, a decent number of my friends have kids and I live in 'liberal' Northeast.

I studied in Europe for a time and all my European friends have 0 kids, most haven't moved out of their parents houses. I highly doubt the U.S White population has the same birth rate.

Creates too much kindness that leads to the opening of doors to rapefugees.

Women being raped by Muslims isn't a common thing?

LOL


fucking LOL

Holy shit. During WW1 the U.S should have siezed on the U.K's distraction and invaded Canada to save you from yourselves.

>Jesus was a cool guy but too peaceful
For you

no, just the guy in the middle

That actually is still too peaceful for me, but then again that's why he amassed such a massive following he was one of the first non-assholes in human history and a much better person than the rest of us.

The west could use one of the warrior Gods at the moment for sure.

The only praying for my enemies I do is that they'll be utterly destroyed and scattered to the wind.