This thread is for discussion of property rights, natural order, right-libertarianism and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Left-Libertarians, Cosmopolitan freaks, Open borders cucks and other assorted libertine degenerates need to fuck off.
Questions are welcome, however many are repeated often. We advise you research the basics before asking.
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THREAD THEME: >hoppewave | Hans-Hermann Hoppe | physical removal - youtube.com/watch?v=LP41IK91_qA >Against the State - (Hoppewave Hans Hermann Hoppe) - youtube.com/watch?v=HLaqr3QorCw >I need a Pinochet! - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Drop it like it's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM
True right Libertarianism is the Final solution, and dude weed LGBTQA lolbergtardians are a cancer that must be removed if we are to ever acheive a Libertarian social order.
FREE THAT MOTHERFUCKER. I NEED MY RADICAL AGENDA NOW!
Andrew Bennett
Dave will commit suicide, his blood is on your hands you goddamn commies.
Juan Morales
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Brayden Adams
KEK, where will he get his relationship advise from now?
Nicholas Reyes
He will go insane, probably going out on a killing spree.
Luis Brown
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Andrew Flores
who here esoteric liber/aryan/ism?
Oliver Evans
Are there any news on cantwell?
Jack Perry
looking at his site, no update. last I heard of him was a couple days ago calling from jail.
Adrian Harris
I saw many threads here saying he got 60 years, but they seemed like shit so..
Michael Jackson
thats what he's going up against, but I highly doubt he'll actually get anywhere close to 60 after trials and all.
Zachary Scott
What do libertarians think of Mexican immigrants?
Sebastian Jones
Can any of you explain to me the elicopter meme?
Brayden Davis
augusto pinochet sentence many marxist to die by helicopter removal, we like that.
Jaxson Baker
I hope americans stand up against this, because all he did was defending himself while having radical views, if this makes an example you will get the same shit like we have in europe, where you can get up to 5 years jsut for raising your right arm.
Blake Baker
And the fisical remobal meme? And the image of a draw guy that anons post when someone talks about ayn rand?
Kayden Evans
Is she crazy? I got that view of her when I look at her facial expression
Nathaniel Allen
Physical removal is both a meme and an actual position we here at /lrg/ take. Coined by Hans-Hermann Hoppe. Its the idea of forced exclusion/ostrazation from ones property
>In a covenant...among proprietor and community tenants for the purpose of protecting their private property, no such thing as a right to free (unlimited) speech exists, not even to unlimited speech on one’s own tenant-property. One may say innumerable things and promote almost any idea under the sun, but naturally no one is permitted to advocate ideas contrary to the very covenant of preserving and protecting private property, such as democracy and communism. There can be no tolerance toward democrats and communists in a libertarian social order. They will have to be physically separated and removed from society.
1. is libertarianism and anarchism the same thing?
2. would a democracy with the athenian model, meaning property rights + not having someone take away your profit and a system where landowners decide the law, be somewhat acceptable?
Ryder Lewis
I'll do my part.
yeah she's nuts, but shes an /lrg/ qt
Oliver Parker
She is a Jew, of course she is crazy.
Cooper Baker
1. Anarcho-Capitalism is a form of libertarianism, but not all libertarianism is anarcho-capitalism
2. Democracy is generally an infringement on property rights, being that you could simply vote away ones property rights, but its possible to enter a democratic community voluntarily via contract.
Noah Gonzalez
She looks exactly like an antifa girl back from school, who was batshit insane. She is qt, but I am sure she will crazy in a relationship and tries to kill you at some point.
Gavin Cox
I don't doubt it.
Juan Jenkins
And Ron Paul is alibertarian? A few years ago there were s lot of Ron Paul memes, why? Doas pol like Ron Paul?
Aaron Taylor
Ron Paul is a Paleo-Libertarian and an AnCap. and yes Sup Forums like Ron Paul.
Jace Sanders
1.Whats the difference?
what are the best arguments for government pets. i keep telling a private market economy is more efficient and taxes are a heavy burden on working class people, but they dont listen
Carson Barnes
BLUE SKIES IN POUGHKEEPSIE, SOME OF YOU ARE OKAY
Christian Green
You are fighting for a lost cause in germany, everyone there is a socialist.
plan to make lot of money asap and move out of here as soon as possible
Evan Wood
the difference of being forced into a democratic society and and voluntarily choosing to join such a society? Consent.
I would say as far as normalfags go the "against me" argument by stefan molymemes is a killer argument againts light liberal socialist types youtube.com/watch?v=UD_1nbahAts&t=4520s learn this argument, know how to apply it to your debates.
William Gray
\ kek
are you the fashy goy that always posts here? you should join us in the discord some time.
Easton Jenkins
Ahh ok I will ask you aquestion that I never get answered: Can a libertarian work inabank or financial business, or it is agains the libertarian ideology?
Ayden Foster
yes and /lrg/ is my greatest ally
Daniel Smith
Stefan molyneux is a libertarian too?
Brody Hall
sure he can, a libertarian can be the president if he wants. I don't see why It would be a conflict to work in a bank.
Jordan Brown
im talking about libertarianism and anarchy
ill take a look at it. thx many helicopters to you
Cooper Richardson
Yes, Stefan is an AnCap, and has produced libertarian content for many many years.
Adrian Gutierrez
Cool
Austin Ramirez
>many helicopters to you Lol
Brandon Ortiz
"libertarianism" is more of a categorization of many philosophies that ancap, classical liberalism and the like happen to fall under. however it is common for ancaps to refer to themselves simply as libertarians.
Nathan Brooks
How can we keep developed world levels of social order and peace (police inforcement, hospitals, firefighting and shit) in a libertarian world?
Justin Ward
Stefan is what is necessary.
Jackson Harris
police enforcement, hospitals, firefighting and shit will exist in a libertarian social order. they'll just be voluntary, and paid for directly by the consumers.
Gabriel Carter
another question.
Do you think the free market has failed when it comes to food production, as all modern food is shitty and mass produced?
James Stewart
Explain to me the classical Ron Poul meme : Its happening ! Where it comes from?
Kayden Gomez
>Kek imagine being this deluded.
It is you ancap retards that are getting currently " physically removed"
-Google is removing your sexist asses -Twitter is removing your bigoted asses -YouTube is removing your racist asses
Sillicon valley is becoming a covenant of modern progressivism which naturally means no "freeze peach" for dissidents according to Hoppean ethics.
Nicholas Perez
do you mean fast food and shit? Real food is plenty available. its just that the retards bred by our mass democratic states choose to eat unhealthy because in many places they arent economically responsible for thier health.
Andrew Lewis
yes, we live in a communist controlled global democracy.
Christopher Anderson
fuggin based.
Jackson Bailey
And other question: Contamination from business? How do we fix this ?
state collusion with corporations? Or are you talking about pollution?
Wyatt Wilson
Compared to older times when food was heavily salted and bland, and more often times diseased, I would say progress has been made. As always, the only way to make food perfect is to make it yourself from scratch. Also, the only people who used to eat comparably well to us would have been the rich for most of human history. It's all just a matter of how much time and money you are willing to spend on health. Fast food today: happy meal, fast food for 19th century and earlier: hard tack, gruel, leathery salted meat, etc.
Lucas Cox
Are libertarians racist bigot and sexists?
Thomas Foster
Clear defined private property is the only way to secure social peace and prevent class warfare, which leads to natural formed hierarchies and authority which comes with it.
Dylan Mitchell
I'm sorry that was the wrong clip, imma try to find it for you.
Jacob James
Im talking about polution, how do you see this problem?
Dylan Parker
>libertarian >right
Ethan Perez
I sure am. but not all are.
Owen Brown
It made me laugh
Isaac Edwards
>(((you))) >not a dipshit lurk more fag.
Camden Butler
We also need to purge the unironic fascists. Dopey skinhead fags.
Ian Richardson
They are, but they shill for private property rights as well - and modern business conglomerates are mostly run by SJW's themselves, which naturally means that there is no such thing as "free speech" infringement when a company fires you for being a racist asshole.
Luke Wood
If you mean all those edgy teens, who never bothered to get into it and only try to live up to an wikipedia article about fascism they just googled, I am in for it.
Grayson James
In a true libertarian society there is no such thing as public property, all land is owned by individuals. and person who wants to dispose of waste has only two options
1. throw waste on your own property, destroying its value and your ability to profit from selling your property
2. making an agreement with another property owner to dispose of your waste on his land (like a trash removal/landfill service)
2 and a half. you could throw your trash on his property without is consent or paying him and then he'll get the copper on your ass.
its quite disincentivized to pollute in a libertarian society. its not impossilbe but not as likely as you might think.
Grayson James
>liberal queer pretending to be rightwing hoe exactly does your brain work, i just dont get it
Andrew Williams
You sound like one of those cryptosocialists of the new right.
Dominic Edwards
of course when it fires you for being gay or trans that's a different story.
Adam Garcia
im sorry I couldn't find the original video.
basically Ron says "Its happening" in a talk at the Mises Institute, Sup Forums latched onto it and turned it into a sort of WW3 warning meme.
Dominic Murphy
Do you think if "real" capitalism ever occurs property owners will be white anglo-saxon heterosexoal white males of "good character" - loo around you faggot.
When google fired James Damore the ancap community was chimping out like they forgotten the fact that google is a private business and that the little faggot just got "physically removed". Thankfully they are not throwing you off helicopters...yet.
Jaxson Walker
>cryptosocialists im a corporatist
Dominic Martin
to be right wing means to embrace Hierarchy, Natural Order, and any sort of individualism/kinship/family values/nationalism.
I am for all of that shit.
Brayden Flores
yea, cryptosocialist.
Julian Lewis
our state is run by communist democrats, they collude with corporations to push their leftist agenda. The problem is the state.
Josiah Cox
Anarchy will never work, small government is needed.
Elijah Wright
When Paul was still running in the primaries people were hyping up that he could actually pull off a win. It was partly a joke because we all knew he didn't stand a chance. So every time the polls showed Paul in the lead or some news about delegate counts would show up Sup Forums would get a bunch of "it's happening" spam. Later on it just got repurposed for any happening.
Gavin Collins
Why won't it work?
Ayden Collins
>small government is needed. until they open the borders and force immigration on you.
Ian Morgan
theres no such thing as a limited state, they will always use their power to expand the state.
Luke White
Are you legitly tarded?
Capitalism when it gained steam and started to erode the feudal order, was viciously attacked by aristocrats for destroying the "natural order" of things.
The traditionalist found it unbearable that the free market equalized him with a complete pleb who just got lucky in selling shit. That's why the french aristocracy despised the merchant bourgeoisie who were gaining political power through being good at business.
Zachary Thomas
Im not Really? The mayority of them? It is sad Lol I will try to find the video Ohhh come on, correct me if I understood it wrong, so you dont give a flying fuck about business poluting the fucking world, like the chinesse who live in a dirty full of smog city ?
Brayden Harris
Capitalism is simply another way to organize a social order. people still have to compete to form a hierarchy. your opinions on economics are irrelevent to your right-wing status anyway. you can be a leftist capitalist (like bryan caplan) or a right wing capitalist (Like Hans Hoppe)
Parker Bell
nationalism requires self sacrifice, to embrace both indovidualism and nationalism is not coherent. The right is built on tradition, individualism does not care about tradition. At the end of the day anarchy is revolutionary, and therefore leftist. if you say so
Benjamin Long
Can I shoot communists?
Cameron Young
>so you dont give a flying fuck about business poluting the fucking world
I care plenty. I even consider myself a type of enviormentalist. maybe you misunderstood.
Under anarchy, people are less free than they are with laws and a state to enforce them. The productive will find themselves shackled to their land, constantly forced to fight to protect life and property. You would think most people are good and will get along, but there is plenty of evidence that historically, even "ordinary men" can turn into monsters when put into abnormal circumstances.
Under the best case scenario, people will get fed up and form miniature police states in small communities to keep the thugs and thieves in line, while everyone else sacrifices their freedom. Under the worst case scenario, the mob wins and everyone starves as no one can produce any food with out their farms getting zerg rushed by hungry people.
Aaron Campbell
>Tfw lean more friedman than rothbard
Wyatt Butler
You are both libertarians but dont agree? The snake user is less "radical"? I dont like racism, but im not a retard
Jackson Parker
>individual and nation are incompatible yeah, you're a socialist. kek.
Chase Adams
Sure. especially if they're on your property.
Carson Lewis
I'm sorry to hear that.
Brody Young
would you an open border libertarian?
Justin Barnes
>people still have to compete to form a hierarchy. compete only in terms of material possessions >your opinions on economics are irrelevent to your right-wing status anyway. you arent fooling anyone yes indeed, any chance of you presenting an argument?