Convince me ANTIFA are evil. From what I see...

Convince me ANTIFA are evil. From what I see, they counter-attack people who advocate violence and racism which I see as perfectly acceptable and i'm not here to debate that.

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Because they use violence to shut down opposing views.


E.g. fascism.

Their wouldn't be any violence and racism if it weren't for communists importing foreigners who abuse the native peoples, then when the natives speak out against it they get attacked by the communists screaming racism. Get fucked.

>"I'm retarded, make me not retarded"
lolno

>Convince me ANTIFA are evil
> i'm not here to debate
k then...

lol

They're shutting down people who use and advocate violence and racism.

If you show me that their evil, then I don't need to debate. I'm just here for your pov. You already know mine.

nancy sez so now go to bed

>"their"

I actually just came to Sup Forums for the first time hoping for an antifa thread, I want to get involved

It's not worth the effort it takes to look in my Antifa folder.
You're too far gone.

Racism doesnt exist. Pattern recognition is a foreign concept to liberals.

Spoken like someone assuming that their ability to reason is shared by other people.

Pro tip: It's not.

They beat people up and vandalize public and private property to force their worldview over people, yet everybody else is a nazi and a fascist. I respect them less than anything else.

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I use to be a member of Stormfront but I grew out of that phase. I'm convinced by evidence. If you want to show me somewhere privately just tell me your discord name.

Mostly useful idiots who don't know they are useful idiots - not like the alt-right who is aware that they are currently useful idiots, but they are useful idiots with a plan, not like alt-left, who are simply useful idiots with no plan. A shame because the alt-left thinks they fight against the enemy, while fighting for the enemy, while fighting against the alt-right, which works against the enemy of the alt-left. It's a fucking crazy jewish ball of wool played with by those who unleashed the whole memeplex in the first place, trying to untie it while making it more crazy. There is no order from chaos, just more chaos. I love it.

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Well first use the hooker you useful goolag drone
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Lol they shut down Ben Shapiro. A fucking Jew

You sure showed him who's boss of this situation!

They attack anyone who likes trump

POC and Jews can be complicit in white supremacy, obviously. There are jews that fought for hitler.

Because Trump supporters are racist? This isn't difficult to understand. People hate racism.

>they (physically) attack those who advocate (verbally)
here you go, I can call your mother bbc sucking whore and it still doesn't entitle you to touch me, antifa is not good or evil as these are distictions for children, they are fucking dumb, annoying and completely depend on system they shit on

>Implying racists don't do violent acts

>they counter-attack people who advocate violence and racism
>implying that beating them up will change their opinions

And now I understand why Sup Forums is the most reviled community on the web

since when is advocating a violent act dumbfuck?

Your initial assumptions are wrong:

They are not shutting down people who advocate violence. The "nazis" that they are shutting down want to get discussion rolling on racial differences and racial ideas. There's no threat of violence there-- the threat is the dicussion of wrongthink.

As for racism-- your assumption is that racism is inherently wrong. It's not. Racism -- or more accurately, race realism -- is an evolutionary instinct for differentiating between in-group and out-group. It's largely something that cannot be controlled, and the discussion of racial differences and the causes of racial tension is necessary for society. It's the stifling of these conversations and the censorship of the realities of racial differences that is creating a more hostile environment.

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You mean people who advocate racism and violence?

You haven't convinced me. I just think they should use violence towards you even more.

The overt racism from the left towards whites th last few years has directly lead to identity politics on the right and their own overt racism.

If you support progressives, whether you comprehend it or not, you are supporting the alt right.

If you support antia, whether you realize it or not, you're supporting neonazis and actual white supremacists.

So don't cry when they come back at you with bullets then.

yeah, when I say you should get gassed I did nothing 'wrong' until I actually gas you

They also attack plenty of innocent people and claim it's because they thought they were racist. It's merely an excuse to hurt people. The nazis are the same way and claim they only hate blacks, jews, etc because these groups are harmful to the country. It's the same logic, the same evil.

You're in hell everything is evil here

When are they not?
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>cannot be controlled

LOL you fucking pleb, what are you, a 12yr old? Try using reason instead of instinct, it's why nature provided us with self actualization

What a shitbrained excuse. I bet you also think rape isn't a crime because the natural male sex drive "cant be controlled"

That's not the point. Just because the left labels you something doesn't justify physical violence. That's not how a civil society works.

so since you're advocating violence right here is it ok for me to "counter-attack" and crack your skull with a bike lock?

answer quick because I'm right behind you in real life and its getting heavy

>Muh racism is okay

Words hurt
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"Convince me to change my opinion"
"I won't accept views that counter my opinion"
Weed dude lmao

>Convince me that this is true.
>But I see it as false and I'm not here to debate that.
The left in a nutshell.

If you're gonna go by the amount of violence done by people on either side you'll realize that the right is much more evil

I'm not trying to convince you. I'm trying to get you to begin to understand where other people are coming from. The only one who can convince you of anything is yourself. Take the time to really listen to what other people are saying.

The idea that you want to "use violence towards me even more" shows a sort of mental block that is preventing you from engaging with the ideas. Why do you feel the need to go to violence? Because the cognitive dissonance is uncomfortable, and violence seems easier.

The danger here is in the blind adherence to ideology -- and the bolshevik antifa are the perfect example of people who do just that. Don't become like them. They don't think for themselves, but parrot their masters' views and are conditioned to react violently to any ideas that challenge that. They're unable to engage the ideas themselves. They are, very literally, the "useful idiots" that the communists used to gain power. They all got lined up and shot when they were done being useful.

None of these ppl ever really left their moms basements before the left began this fuckery and antifa began open violence and property destruction.

This isnt opinion, its fact. Go take a look at the chronological progress of these two groups and watch how antifa manifests the enemy it claims to be fighting back whem they were just beating garbage cans and rioting.

cute, now post crime stats by race and maybe you'll get where that (((hate))) stems from

Not in the current year. They just walk around on small rallies, no violence and all, when suddenly some cunts go at then and beat'em/stab'em. Even if you dislike them so much for you to go try to kill'em, they theserve the right of self-defense.

How are they racist towards white people? That's hysterical.

Really? Thats how you spin that? OP wants to see other opinions, he doesn't want to argue his own and derail the point of the thread.

They're not evil, they're just stupid and violent.

There's a difference between controlling your actions and controlling your thoughts. "Racism" cannot be compared to rape, because it's an internal process.

This is one of the major problems that people on your side have: you want to police people's thoughts.

Jewish authorities tried to censor this hero. Here's what he had to say to you and all the other cucks.

Why wouldn't I want to use violence towards racist people? I think you're the one with the mental block.

Please elaborate. As I'm seeing from here, the right are not the ones assaulting journalists, peaceful protesters, vandalizing properties and gunning down cops on the streets.

>they counter-attack people who advocate violence and racism which I see as perfectly acceptable and i'm not here to debate that.


Well, you're the fascist and anti-White racist then, the enemy, rake yourself

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. -MLK

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Not an argument. Racism has been "okay" for all of human history up until the last few decades. You don't even understand what racism is -- other than that it's the "big evil" that the establishment has conditioned you to recoil from.

If you changed "antifa" to "racist" that comment would still hold 100% true.

>Implying this isn't happening because of a) cops being harsher on black men b) black men are poor leading to more crime and c) poorer institutions in black areas because of less funding from racist republicans
>Source: theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/09/public-school-funding-and-the-role-of-race/408085/

>counter-attack
False.
>advocate violence
False.
>racism
I fee perfectly acceptable to beat the ones who promote anti-racism, so?

Anyway, Antifa arent evil, they are to fucking minuscule to be that, they are just retarded. They fight EVUL NAZIS and side with the establishment to gain exactly nothing, neoliberal-globalist elite dont fucking care about anything that Antifa proudly promotes, but are fine to let them blow off some steam over retarded causes such as statues and after that crush them. It is already happening, smart thing for them to do would be to ally with the Right and try to dismantle the establishment, so that both parties could win (partition of the US).

>Blacks, chinks, mixed, aliens, abos should get prioritised because of their race
>Whites are no race, that's hysterical
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Right wing violence is eclipsed by Islam. Something the left routinely defends.

>No violence at all
Lol what

Reminds me of the Unabomber. Wrong because most POC support leftism.

The left defends the right to follow Islam, not the right to do terrorist Islamic activities

Yes. You are free to refute my claims, Abdul.

I understand what your saying, but I don't believe its accurate. We don't want to police peoples thoughts...we want people to make the effort to rise above emotions and instinct.

BOTH SIDES ARE RETARDS YOU ARE GOING AFTER EACH-OTHER INSTEAD OF THE REAL ENEMY. Which isn't Capitalism, or communism, It is oligopolies.

Why is "racism" the ultimate evil that is deserving of violence? What does "racism" even mean to you? Racism is nothing more than an internal thought process -- largely instinctual -- and the idea that you can use physical force to police other people's thoughts is morally reprehensible. You seem to lack self-awareness.

If these people were legitimately hanging black people or something, you would have a point. But "racism" as you are using it is a vague and nebulous term that has no meaning, other than to give you carte blanche to attack anybody who you disagree with.

If you could quite pretending to be retarded and argue in good faith, that would be nice.

Whites are not victims of racism besides small incidents of prejudice.

jews were infinitely more persecuted and oppressed thorough history and yet they own your entire country so you can kindly fuck off with your 'but da white man be keeping us down'

The way it's worded it sounds like he doesn't actually want to hear discussion about why the things antifa are doing are not acceptable.
>From what I see, they counter-attack people who advocate violence and racism which I see as perfectly acceptable and i'm not here to debate that.
"I'm not here to debate that," usually means "if you have opposing opinions I don't want to hear them."
What OP should have said to be clearer was "I'm not going to respond with any of my opinions, I'll just listen to yours."
Misuse of the phrase "I'm not here to debate that," in my opinion.

What have racists done to you, excluding calling you bad words or hurting your precious feelings?

>Why wouldn't I want to use violence towards racist people?
Uhm..
Because they will retaliate?

The only antifa I knew IRL was this fat Mexican son of a professor (commie of course).

This guy was the scum of the earth. He was into kiddie porn, hard drugs, faggotry, etc.

Anyways one day he went to an "action" and keeled over dead at 20 something.

Turns out he had a heart condition his whole life but no one ever knew because he never exercised in his entire life.

>advocate racism
oh no, this kills people! no one racist is ever peaceful.

we better kill all white people, right my man?

The 'largely instinctual' manifests in reality, buddy.

So, i suppose you agree with hitler's moves.
1st against jews and communists for the 1918-1919
2nd against the pols for the problem they caused against germans in poland.

>Jews were more persecuted
They are now a wealthy
>Blacks are more persecuted
They are poor
You solved that yourself mate

What if their definition of 'racist' is anyone that opposes their ideology? (because it is)

rac·ism
prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.
"a program to combat racism"

Why are you acting like they are two different meanings and not synonyms.

>ANTIFA ARE THE REAL FASCISTS

Not accurate. "antifa" is a specific group that label themselves as such. "racist" is a label that is imposed upon people by others. There's no organized "racist" group. Your failure is in the use of these words and labels: you use "racist" as a label to smear and slander and categorize anybody who holds "the wrong opinions". It's a way of demonizing a group of people for wrongthink.

Antifa, on the other hand, are a specific group of people who dress in a uniform and act as a unit under a shared ideology.

>They believe in a failed ideology that has killed hundreds of millions of people

>They destroy property

>Anyone they disagree with (Anybody 2 clicks to the right of marx) is a nazi/fascist because reasons

> Instigate/Use physical violence against their political opponents, a barbarian tactic used by authoritarian ideologs such as fascists/nazi's

>Beat up bystanders with little to no provocations other than being there.

Just head to the BBC and see if you can get a job there.

>supports cultural appropriation
>so whites don't adopt inferior cultures

>supports safe spaces for minorities
>to ensure they segregate themselves

>are anti hate speech
>so when white are a minority,they can beat the other minorities with this club

>for socialism
>but not communist socialism, that's too much, just enough to remove the central banks from the hands of zionist elitist jews

>pro-diversity quota's
>will expel jews from media to make way for others

>pro-quota's in ivy league schools
>suddenly more whites proportionally enter, less jews and asians

>makes the left an embarrasment
>incenses the right, makes centrists look like cuckold wife-watchers

You be the judge.

Sure have one here:
vox.com/identities/2017/5/30/15711640/portland-stabbing-hate-crime

If you want more I can give more

convince yourself! my black ass don't teach for free, muthafucka!

There is one Racist group, it is the KKK but that has no relevance because they do not have very many members and no longer commit crime.

Also, its pretty much the same thing. I used to be racist...I put effort into growing out of it. Just like I put effort into not allowing my sexual desires to dominate me.

Just because one "feels" one way or the other doesn't make it a valid feeling. This is true of both the left and right. You think I don't still have racist thoughts at times? Of course I do. And I bury them and chastise them and not allow them to affect my -actions-.

Nobody is perfect. Internally, we all slip. We all categorize, we all judge. What is important is our ability to put that internal monologue aside and make sure our actions don't reflect them.

>small incidents of prejudice.
Ever heard of Rhodesia?

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