PJW GOT FUCKING OWNED

PJW GOT FUCKING OWNED

SIT DOWN ALT-RIGHT

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You can see how threatened they are by him.PJW is a powerful voice. He can't be stopped.

They wouldn’t have written the article had they not felt they were first burned along with that fat lard ass that’s licking Rowling’s taint. They can’t ignore that he’s becoming a formidable force on the platform littered with SJWs, Twitter

Oh yeah a guy living in western Europe during the early 20th century would have totally loved Communism.

>news
>responding to e-celebs
Sure showed them.

Antifa too stupid to know they're the dogs in "Animal Farm".

1984 and animal farm were both about communism.

PJW isn't one of /ourguys/
Who cares

But Orwell obviously would have hated pantyfa.

They kinda are, aren't they?

Orwell was an anti-fascist but he would not have approved of antifa. He coined the term, "the fascists of the future will call themselves 'antifascists'", and he would recognize antifa as the violent anti-human cryptofascists they are. Of course he would also recognize the alt-right as the dangerous sub-fascists THEY are, he would have been on neither side of today's culture wars.

>antifa stands for antifascist and therefore is anti-fascist even though they literally employ the tactics of actual fascists & are anarcho-communist
>george orwell hates fascists
>therefore george orwell loves antifa

also,
THE MANESTREEM METEOR

>actual historian

So, like some fat guy with a twitter account who was dumb enough to get a degree in history?

These people are so pathetic.

> actual historian
> Mr Stuchbery

IT'S THE SAME MENTALLY HIGH SCHOOL TEACHER

You can't make this shit up!

(By the way, at the end of his rant, you can tell the high school teacher realizes he fucked up. He had to admit that Orwell opposed communism.)

Also PJW isn't even alt-right, he's consistently disavowed the alt-right

These people are so fucking stupid it hurts

> the fascists of the future will call themselves 'antifascists'
He didnt.
>everybody I dont like is fascist
Must be nice being a retard.

Lol

Blah blah blah blah, some name with a hyphen.
Jesus Christ you are all ducked.

>when a distinguished, decades-old newspaper has to go on a childish, unprofessional platform like twitter, and use the word "owned" to mention an e-celeb as they struggle for relevance in the world

wew

within the article itself they admit that george orwell came to hate all forms of totalitarianism, which antifa is a part of lmao

Paul seems to talk about things that he doesn't understand all the time, like calling paintings that came from 20th century communist countries "stupid and nonsensical" when they more often than not had anti-communist messages. They wouldn't been able to make those anti-communist messages realistic.

Dunno if I agree with Orwell supporting antifa, seems quite unlikely for me

I think they are more like boxer and the other farm animals. They are doomed to be cast away and forgotten.

The Independent is Gawker-tier at this point.

Desperation of a dying company, these people are the blockbusters of news

He makes it pretty clear in both books that he doesn't support communism.

Orwell hated Stalinists, so of course he would have hated Antifa cunts

IMAGINE MY SHOCK

>1984 and animal farm were both about the horrors of communism

FTFY

independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/far-right-antifa-george-orwell-paul-joseph-watson-historian-alt-right-left-wing-novelist-mike-a7924491.html

Their argument is "Antifa is a name for a loose coalition of movements that protest Fascism and Nazism. Orwell hated Fascism and fought against Fascists in Spain. Therefore, Orwell would like Antifa"

From the article

>Antifa, shorthand for anti-fascist organisations, refers to a loose decentralised coalition of groups who are in favour of opposing fascism via popular grassroots action rather than relying on the police or the state. While the movement dates back to the rise of fascism in Europe in the 1920s, it has gained increasing attention for clashing with white supremacist groups in Charlottesville last month.

Find this one pretty funny

>[Mr. Stuchbery added] “I encourage Paul to widen his reading beyond the message boards and Facebook communities of the 'alt-Right' and develop a little nuance in his attitudes.”

This bloke is also the same "historian" who "owned" him about Roman Britain being ethnically diverse

He obviously wouldn't have supported antifa. He hated Marxism.

See:

antifa and the left are absolutely the 'useful idiots'. they are fulfilling that role 100% perfectly.

Without opening the link, let me guess.
It's (((Mike Stuckleberry))) again, isn't it?

Archived that for you archive.is/MoTPr

PJW isn't alt-right. Orwell fought for the marxists in the Spanish civil war, so the independent is actually right about that. This whole thread is a mess. Stop worshiping faggots who wrote books you had to read in high school.

/slidethread

(((actual historian)))

Very true. 1984 was about living under Communism whereas Animal Farm was more about the rise of Communism, particularly Stalinists.

Leftists always cry "BUT ORWELL WAS A SOCIALIST" whenever his works are brought up against them. True, he did consider himself a socialist, but it obviously meant something different to him, because in "1984" the totalitarian systems are named "IngSoc (English Socialism") and "National Bolshevism". Orwell also was disenchanted enough with mainstream leftism by the end of his life that, according to his biographer, he believed that socialism could only work in England due to what he saw as the inherent decency and fairness of the English character.

Yeah that's what I thought, Paul deserves a lot of criticism but this isn't one of them. And Orwell was democratic socialist, which isn't maxist socialism, not 21st century democratic socialism at least

manly Sup Forums intellectual leader

Orwell's entire later career was against thuggery, Stalinism, and leftists using "the revolution" as an excuse to do whatever they wanted to do anyway, and normies know that. This professor is just underlining the worthlessness of academia. That said Norks just tested two nukes, released Huma emails include references to pizza in the context of human trafficking, and a Bulgarian journalist was fired and interrogated for establishing that Hillary's State Department funnelled Eastern European weapons to ISIS through diplomatic pouches. But hey, PJW is important too.

George Orwell would have been a lefty cuck in the modern day... he was best friends with all of those type of people back in the day. Google Bloomsbury Group

Look up the definition of "Fascism"
And then look at what Antifa is doing...
If you are not a troll, then you are a fucking retard.

>an actual historian
So is it some diversity woman or an actual one selling themselves out for virtue points?

Actually Orwell was a top Shabboz Goy, rank-and-file member of the JEWlluminati and his "1984" is classic JEWlluminati "in your face"

They do this part to mock us, part because they think it gives them power and part a sincere (i repeat: SINCERE) warning to us to give us a chance to fight back.

But he also made it pretty clear that he was a "t-that wasn't REAL socialism!" pinko.

Yeah, both the left and the right claim Orwell and while he was probably more left he was anti-authoritarian regimes in general.

AHAHAH right user. The same faggot cuck who claimed that roman britain was nigger level diverse

Why would you trust any tweet written by 'Muh Independent'?

He'd probably have hated watson even more desu

He's redpilled as fuck libturd get out

>alt right commentator

This fag has denounced the """"alt right""""" like 10 times

Not a historian, a history teacher.

This is probably the funniest thing about this whole tweet

PJW hates the alt-right

He's a gateway for normies to eventually end up here. He's redpill lite, but that extremely important to make our side grow. You aren't going to redpill normies by going full 14/88 on them. Gotta ease them in.

Wut. Is he gay?!?!

That's even worse. Teachers are subhuman scum. Most of them anyway.

No mate. Paul makes these.

read that thread
in any case the one owned is the """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""historian"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" cuz he was literally spweing fake news to fit his narrative

Not sure about that. A fair number of lefties turned their backs on the USSR in the 1950s, though granted a lot of them were Jews who became neo-cons. If Orwell had lived to a ripe old age he might not have become a hardcore right-winger, but he would certainly at least have pissed off the orthodox Left for decades on end.

>Historian/school teacher
>Orwell fought for the left
>Obviously Orwell would fight for the current left
>obviously obvious.

Lol it was the same faggot jew that tried to argue with him saying that there was a "Mediterranean" dug up in order to prove his point about diversity.
The only reason a liberal will use the word Mediterranean is to be misleading that it was a Spaniard or an Italian.

Yup =[

>they literally employ the tactics of actual fascists

stop saying this.

fascists would not allow their own people to fight each other in the streets unless absolutely necessary. fascism may forceably bring people together but it doesn't cause or preach chaos out of a destructive desire. Pantyfa are just retards that want to bring down "capitalism," born out of an aggrieved state of mental illness. None of those people could succinctly tell you what they're even doing except spreading chaos.

Orwell almost got killed by the intellectual ancestors of antifa when he was fighting for the anarchist side in the Spanish Civil War.

Orwell used violence against those who were using violence.
Antifa uses violence against those who are using words and arguments.

>words are violence

This is what the left believes in 2017.

Are you sure? Maybe that's a shoop, no?

It has to be said, though, that today's "fascists" are often drawn from the same marginalized and socially disaffected elements as the antifa rabble. That said, I don't count white nationalists as "fascists", because these ideologies are two different things (wanting an exclusively white country is not the same as wanting a corporatist State)

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Maybe if he goes back to Prague and explores the gay scene one more time, the left will stop unfairly attacking him.

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Orwell took action against fascists when they caused tangible harm within a war, he didn't beat up white guys with tiki torches because they triggered him on twitter.

Boxer represents the workers. In our context, he'd be your typical normie slob who holds down a shit service job and believes everything he hears on CNN and Facebook.
Antifa is purely the violence that leftwing totalitarianism requires to keep itself in power when it becomes obvious that it can't deliver on its promises and is destined to fail.

There's nothing wrong with an Orwell thread. Anyway, half the threads on this site are repetitive, content-free bullshit.

>yr guns can't defeat the almighty government
>u r mad white boi
>*sips tea*-- Sup ForumsBTFO -- "apologize"
>this nonwhite girl is cute/this nonwhite guy is smart therefore racism is wrong
>u r all losers who eat hot pockets in your mom's basements and [etc.]

This shit shouldn't be posted here
Nobody gives a flying rats ass what some smartass wannabe Twitter intellectuals bicker over on social media
It's time to stop

people lean way too much on Mussolini's so-called definition of fascism. Fascism is a nebulous word that has been used in many different ways. The main features of fascism is a reaction to hostile forces seeking to destroy the host culture. To fight of the disease, the body politic gathers to itself all the means necessary to preserve its traditional ideals.

There is no traditionalism in pantyfa, they are not American, they are born out of a Jewish philosophy of destruction. Calling Antifa fascists is like calling a turtle a fish. Maybe it works on some level, but it misses the point.

why is he walking towards the camera?

>Redpilled
>Constantly attacks any and all attempts to smear Jews

Him and Milo eased me into conservative politics. I was a Socialist before them.

>owned
what is this 2006?

your giving antifa too much credit, the dogs represent left wing death squads.

Antifa are basically useful idiots doing the rabble rousing and getting the shit beat out of them.

Paul Joseph Watson is Chad for normie brainlets who need some easy sweet redpills to start out on.

I personally like PJW. His video "Dear Black People" is fucking hilarious.

>Replicate the tactics of the Brown Shirts
>Call yourself anti-fascists
>Suddenly you're no longer using the tactics of fascists

Really activated my almonds!!

>A news source is picking a fight with some random rightwing youtuber
How the mighty have fallen

>The main features of fascism is a reaction to hostile forces seeking to destroy the host culture

That's exceedingly broad, though, because all tribal and ethnic movements throughout history have had that same motivation. The Scots who fought off the English in the 1300s certainly did, for example, but it's highly anachronistic to call them "fascists" (and for that matter the Catholic Polish patriots who fought the Germans and Russians in WWII weren't "fascists" either).

He said Karl Marx would dislike Antifa not George Orwell. Regardless he wasn't totally being serious. Also who the fuck is bragging about someone liking that TERRORIST GROUP anyways? Fuck Antifa!

so his proof that george orwell would've loved antifa is george orwell was part of communist groups in his youth?

is this nigger for real?

Antifa is anti fascist because they say they are anti fascist.
Therefore, Hitler and Mussolini where socialists because they said they where socialists.
Communism is socialists because Marks, Lenin, and Stalin said communism is socialism.

Bring on the autistic shrieking

He doesn't make it clear that he supports it either. In Animal Farm he basically says the path to hell is paved with good intentions.

Holy shit I love Brittany Venti

>Independent
Oh wow, surely it won't be another capture of tweets which certainly doesn't exclude inconvenient parts of a discussion.
Gwalidy jernalisum

It's not the street-fighting tactics of the Brown Shirts that are objectionable -- they only arose as a reaction to Communist scum trying to take over Germany by similar violent methods -- but the overall idea of one ideology monopolizing the entirety of public political discourse and punishing all dissenters, which is where Nazism went off the rails -- they didn't just punish the Left, but also the dissident Right, and used tactics pioneered under Stalinism to do so

Alright, I'll put it to you this way. Antifa isn't Boxer because none of them actually work.

20th century Fascism wouldn't work in America for the very reason that can be inferred from your post, most of it had to do with ethnic or racial ties to an historical people and/or land.

America is made up of disparate groups of Europeans, nevertheless, you could in fact call all of your examples fascists since that's what they were. often many "scholars" or historians will attempt to tie fascism to Authoritarianism, which isn't wrong, it just misses a critical aspect of why people turned into fascists. diving head first into an Authoritarian State is not exactly red meat for the average pleb.

I think the problem is that the Left have been screaming that everyone who disagrees with them (i.e. every normal, sensible person) is a "fascist" for so long that a lot of people on the Right have just said "well fuck it, I'm a fascist then and fascism must be a good thing." That's entirely understandable as a reaction to the insanity engulfing our society, but it also demonstrates a complete ignorance of what historical fascism actually was.

Paul Joseph Watson doesn't reads history, he monitors memes and propaganda and which has the highest interest that is what his videos will contain to get views. He's a collection of all rumours, memes and propaganda that are popular.

>He's a collection of all rumours, memes and propaganda that are popular.

They're not "popular" here in the West, because PJW (whether right or wrong) is almost always at odds with the dominant media discourse or narrative.

Because this is what people have being warning about the alt-kike since ever.

They invented this word to target us into one group to make easier to attack us and influence right wing people into following controlled opposition like queer spencer.

Both the media and libtards know people are not "alt-right" but they will still smear and label us like this because they are liars and manipulators, see how they oppose anything bad as "not real communists" but will call anybody they don't like or is embarrassing an "alt-right" and right wing, completely disregarding any shred of truth.

This. He's a spineless cuck and a moron
>Won't name the Jew
>Criticized modern art by slandering Duchant's Fountain, whose ENTIRE FUCKING PURPOSE was to make a statement about modern art
>Immediately denounced Trump after the Syrian airfield bombing, then backtracked and claimed he was only "off the Trump train" on that particular issue
>Claimed to be alt-right until the Charlottesville Challenger made that an unfashionable thing to be, at which point he denounced them

>actual historian
>independent.co.uk

Around Jews, get ready to lose.