Newfag and lurker here. Just curious as to what people here think of my political sentiments. I believe in capitalist society, with an emphasis on liberty and fairness. Little government intervention in the economy and in general. As for fairness, I believe fairness=/=equality and fairness>equality. For example, the Civil Rights Movement allowed for equal rights for everyone, which is good, but it also caused minority scholarships, affirmative action and "white guilt", which is bullshit. No special or worse treatment on the basis of who you are, but on the basis of your actions and contributions to society. I disagree with the Nazis/NatSocs, and commies/socialists.I know that my beliefs have many flaws, but that's what it is. Everyone is welcome to discuss.
Am I a cuck?
You sound like an average citizen.
I didn't read any of that, but yes. Yes you are.
Sage
That is some boring shit right there. Spice it up with some AnCap and NatSoc philosophy. Offend someone FFS.
And Nazi-boos are cucks for big government.
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You're a couple of 'redpills' away from being Chris Cantwell.
All the cuck nonsense is just a product of manchildren trumptards projecting like any other retarded liberal.
Pretty great, but your level of understanding could be better. A true American.
Thanks for the advice, I'll make it more interesting next time I post.
>For example, the Civil Rights Movement allowed for equal rights for everyone, which is good, but it also caused minority scholarships, affirmative action and "white guilt", which is bullshit. No special or worse treatment on the basis of who you are, but on the basis of your actions and contributions to society
These are fair beliefs, IMO. But the question is, where do you go from here? You say that you don't like the affirmative action, white guilt, etc., and yet it currently prevails in the American system. So the question is, should any changes be proposed to the American system? You reject National Socialism (and that’s fine…I don’t think you need to be NS to not be a cuck), but what do you instead stand for? If you’re answer is effectively “the way things currently are in America,” then you’re effectively saying you’re willing to accept all of those things you stated you were against (affirmative action, white guilt, etc.).
No NS, okay that’s fine. But what do you believe in? That the current system is fine, and that we should just live with those things (that you admit you don’t like)?
do you believe all men are created equal?
Thanks, user. I find anything political rather enjoyable but I'm not quite redpilled yet.
You sound like a normal tax paying member of society. Good job
Have some self esteem ffs.
Asking "am I a cuck" just because you believe in liberty and not in a regressive ideology like fascism, - is the epitome of being a cuck.
Be proud, or at least don't seek validation from others about your political ideology.
Interesting question. I'm not really sure what to answer. I guess so.
>minority scholarships
Reminder that there's literally nothing wrong with minority scholarships from private organizations
Like I said, my beliefs are flawed, but I suppose it's not really possible. Anyone anti-establishment would likely not get elected and if they are their laws likely won't pass
despite there being scientific evidence to the contrary?
Thanks user. Though my beliefs are very likely flawed though.
get raked, leaf. we all know you're a shill anyway. SAGE!
Fair enough. I guess I was doing 'Am I a cuck?' as an attention grabber, but thanks for the input.
I meant federal scholarships. Sorry for not specifying in the post
Oh, sorry, didn't mean to upset anybody, fatso.
You're a nigger loving normalfag. So yes, you're a cuck.
Fair enough I suppose. Wasn't quite sure what to answer anyways. Interesting question and point, user
I guess so, thanks for the input
No, you are the opposite of a cuck
You don't support those who take from you
Affirmative action = cuckoldry
Sounds like dull Thatcherism. It's been debunked by decades of laissez-faire capitalism failing the west. You need to throw in some cultural nationalism or something.
been learning a lot about myself lately. found myself to be closer to the left than i believed.
the issue of race is one that cannot be overlooked though.
Do you have a waifu?
>Anyone anti-establishment would likely not get elected and if they are their laws likely won't pass
I don’t necessarily disagree with this statement.
>I suppose it's not really possible
This is where the fundamental disconnect is with you and many people here. You take your above statement (someone anti-establishment won’t get elected), and your conclusion is therefore that the desired changes aren’t really possible. Do you think that people here who say they are national socialist, ancap, (or any non-mainstream ideology) just woke up one day and decided that’s what they would be for no apparent reason? No – they first had the realization that you did: that the candidate who could affect the necessary change will likely not be elected *under the current system*.
Now, one takeaway from that conclusion could be, as you currently suggest, that it’s therefore not really possible to affect the necessary change. But that is a very, very narrow view of the situation. The US’ current system of government, and more specifically, the way it has evolved over the last several decades, is a very narrow slice of the types of political systems and ideologies that have existed or have been conceptualized throughout the history of Western civilization. Relatively speaking, it is a very new concept, and it is a very narrow concept. One reaction to the belief that it isn’t working is, as you suggest, to say it’s not possible to achieve the type of society we desire. Another reaction, however, that inspires much more hope, is to say that we can achieve the society we desire, but we need to consider political ideas that exist outside of the very narrow mainstream political thought that currently exists in 2017. It could be national socialism, ancap, plain old socialism, communism, fascism, monarchism, some combination of the two – the list is endless.
Thanks user, but not quite sure how to fix things though. Someone anti-establishment wouldn't be elected, and their laws wouldn't be passed.
This and trend is over
Who doesn't on Sup Forums, user?
Your ideology will not be possible when America resembles Brazil and Europe resembles North Africa.
Do you honestly think a muslim majority Europe will vote for limited government as opposed to sharia? Do you honestly think that a black/brown majority America will vote to get their gibs taken away, when most of them rely on those gibs for survival?
Libertarianism can only work in a homogeneous, high IQ society with a strong work ethic and solid family structures.
Thanks for the input. I think that diversity for diversity's sake is stupid, but I'm not against working with others who actually earned their position.
Interesting point, user. I suppose I think outside my p.o.v. with this subject. Thanks
What do you think about feminism, nationalism, Israel, and race and IQ?
>laissez-faire capitalism
Thanks for your input. I have to agree, affecting change will be pretty much impossible with the state the US and other countries are.
Well, if we had a stable minarchist society where the state (in its minimal form) would be able to enforce the NAP, low IQ retards would die out sooner or later
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You sound like a Cuck, merely for asking.
>I know that my beliefs have many flaws, but that's what it is.
Then why the fuck do you believe in something flawed? Also, mixing economic and societal views is problematic.
Questions for you, and anyone else wanting to answer. Do you believe in free will and personal capacity to understand right from wrong, and how easy is it to attain the wisdom to tell the difference? Also, how do you feel about individualism? Is an individual born into duties, or are duties realized through moral expansion and an understanding of self?
Feminism is no longer needed in first world countries, and SJWs are just a shitshow, I agree with nationalists that we should have no illegals and less unskilled immigrants, of there is white genocide, I am completely opposed to it, and diversity for it's own sake is bad, and I'm not sure what to think about the correlation between race and IQ
Interesting quote and point, user.
Less than 15 years after Laissez-faire was introduced in limited capacity within France (1754), it failed. It was introduced only in regard to sale of grain, and for about 13 years was fine, until a single bad harvest turned the trade of grain on it's head. French farmers, instead of feeding their country, sought the best profit by exporting their crop. Widespread famine ensued.
Even in limited capacity, Laissez-faire isn't a good idea.
Research the race realists, starting with Dr. Rushton. Then research R vs K reproduction theory, and Darwinian evolution. Translate that knowledge, into the major races (Black, Caucasian, Oriental, Jew) and watch the new paradigm that emerges.
You're welcome.
I believe people can think for themselves, but their need to be general laws in place because everyone has different views of what is right and wrong. I feel that an individual matters, but an individual is different from everyone else, and a society where everyone is catered to cannot work. I feel that people realize their duties through moral expansion and understanding. Interesting discussion points user
Being a cuck means going out of your way in your treatment of minorities of you hold everyone to the same standards you are not a cuck.
I'll check it out if I remember, user
I guess I'm safe then, user. Thanks for the input
Calling out the minority quotas, excessive minority gibs, and affirmative action bullshit is commendable
Thanks user, but I'm not quite sure if there really is any way to solve this
Can't the differences in IQ be down to like shitty education systems for young children in each country though?
Or like maybe the different environmental factors in each country effect the ability to concentrated & learn? E.g, if I was sat in the dirt in the blistering heat, I probs wldnt give 2 shits about thinking anything besides 'get me the fuck outta here' least of all trying to learn stuff so that I score I high IQ when tested?
Not saying you're wrong but seems like there's alot of factors that could influence those stats
These studies have been done all around the world, btw. Blacks in Japan, checks out similar as Blacks in America. Too much correlation across the board, to suggest anything but genetics being the major factor.
To drive the point home, why do they always have shitty education systems, user? Why is Detroit a shit hole, when compared with Seattle? They're both socialist, so whats the difference?
>I feel that people realize their duties through moral expansion and understanding
Then, like you said, you are less likely to agree with NatSoc or any heavily nationalistic ideologies.
What are your personal feelings on order/structure? How important are the ideas of order/structure in your life?
>I feel that an individual matters, but an individual is different from everyone else, and a society where everyone is catered to cannot work.
Do you believe conscious thought is more powerful than subconscious thought? Also, do you believe Objective Truth exists? Or do you believe Truth to be subjective?
Almost forgot about Israel, sorry user. I have heard of the conspiracy and seen some evdience, but I hope it's not true. Last thing I want is some guy orchestrating genocide over a few shekels.
i am guessing you do not understand how IQ works? all i am saying is our differences are more than skin deep.
>Posting worst girl
>Kiwi
Fuck you cunt! Jus cus I was suggesting some factors that may have effected those stats doesnt mean I'm a fucking idiot.
Also 'IQ' doesn't 'work'
At least the Canadian was gave a mature response
You're doing your country a disservice man, shape up
>These studies have been done all around the world, btw.
There are similarities that exist, especially considering the role in-groups play, and the status of being a minority.
>Why is Detroit a shit hole, when compared with Seattle?
The answer to that question is extremely complex, while the answer you are attempting to suggest is extremely simple. To put it bluntly, your reasoning is complete bullshit, and it's apparent without bringing up any specifics.
I feel like their should be order and structure to protect citizens but not so much that it strangles the people. There must be a balance. As for the thought question, I suppose subconscious thought is stronger. It affects everything we do, and we might not even notice. And honestly, I think truth may be subjective. Everyone is different, and sees the world in different ways. The truth gets distorted. People come to different conclusions. It's hard to explain user, sorry.
wow, go beat your wife or something, honestly meant that as an observation not an insult.
Sorry for the late reply, thanks for your input, user
We are our genes. Every biological entity is merely the expression of its DNA. This genetic code is the software that governs the behavior of all life forms. Homo Sapiens are no different. Plant an apple seed anywhere in the world, what kind of tree grows?
The "complexity" drops away, once you swallow this red pill, user. It becomes predictable, demonstrable and repeatable. In other words, a scientific fact.
You're a couple red pills away from being literally Hitler.
No you aren't a cuck but you're not totally redpilled either, equality is satanic, hinders humanity
Alright, thanks for your input, user
You are a delusional cuck. You believe in things that have no basis in reality. You believe in some bullshit but when go to the polling station you forget all that and just select some candidate whose politics and policies have nothing to do with what you believe. Thats it. After you go back to believing in your delusion that have nothing to do with actual real world politics.
Even worse
Unless you call people faggots, tell them to kill themselves or call them a cuck on Sup Forums then, yes, you are a cuck you fucking faggot. P.S. KYS
Thanks for the input, user
I'll be sure to kms, user, thanks for the input
You sound like a neocohen.
I figured I was more libertarian. Thanks for your input user
Because he's aware that he doesn't have all of the answers, so he's looking to sharpen his political ideologies. It's not being a cuck to want to be more educated on things that interest you, you huge faggot.
Yes, everybody was fine with that back in the '80s.
But the picture has changed. Racial equality now means whitey has to be jobless and live off government handouts in a crime-ridden ghetto too. Or wear slave chains and an I'm Sorry sign while paying for everything everybody wants.
Since equal outcomes are an article of faith, the failure to achieve them can only be proof of the white man's oppressive nature. Since leftists believe wealth comes from distribution and not creation, one group can only rise by lowering another.
So who cares what your beliefs are. They have been leapfrogged. Now you need to engage in the debate as it stands today or just be a fucking cuck.
You sound like a generic slightly left-leaning republican AKA neocon. I'm not even going to claim that's a good or bad thing, but it is what it is.
That's an interesting point, user. Thanks for the input
Yeah, it is what it is. I guess my beliefs and such are a bit generic though, true.
Well, I think this thread is finally dead. If any anons are listening, then have a wonderful week. I really enjoy thought-provoking discussions like these. I'm still a newfag and not redpilled but this was very interesting. Goodbye