Bosnian War

Redpill me on the Bosnian war.

MSM told me Bosnia was an utopia of multiculturalism before the evil Christian Serbian nationalists started massacring innocent Muslims at random.

Knowing Muslims this seems beyond fishy.
Tell me what really happened.

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>innocent muslims
we were just returning the favor

Read Tim Judah's book, The Serbs. It is not a nice read there are no good guys. MSM infers, but never specifically states, that Bosniaks have always been the ethnic majority in Bosnia. Yugoslavian census data shows that in the 1960's Serbs were the largest ethnic group in Bosnia. The Yugoslavian war should act as a warning as to the fate of multicultural countries.

once we and slovenia left yugoslavia, the balance in the federation was completely fucked. so the mudslimes wanted to leave as well, and croats in bosnia were already at war with serbs so it wasn't an issue, so a referendum was held about the fate of bosnia - croats + mudslimes are more than 50% of the population, and the serbs boycotted it anyways so it looked like bosnia was leaving as well

only problem was, mudslimes wanted a unitary islamic republic, and serbs didnt want to live in sharia law nor did they want to leave their ancestral lands

so some mudslime extremist killed a serb in a village, and serbs retaliated by opening fire on peace protestors in sarajevo and things just spiraled from there

also as an aside, the bosnian war was a fucking joke, orchestrated and manipulated from behind the scenes; despite all the blustering today from all sides about the 'rightousness' of their cause, most of the "soldiers" on all sides were criminals, football hooligans and other assorted degenerates; including the scum bosnians imported from the middle east. if you had money, it didn't matter what nationality you are - a mudslime or croat soldier wounded could easily be treated in the banja luka hospital (price was 1000 deutche marks)

I'm a crobro who had family member fighting against Serbs in the war.

With that being said, the war was the ultimate scam and the part where Croatia went into Bosnia was the worst mistake in this nation's history, ever.

Also, their president at the time was a hardcore mudslime, wrote some pathetic mudslime proclamations back in the 70s which advocated for sharia state, and when the (((chaos))) of the 90s came around, he rose to power because - well, bosnians. You have to understand, bosnians are like niggers of the balkans, extremely low IQ, you can hear their stupidity seeping when they speak, bosnian accent is actually audible stupidity.

Also, they have this insufferably stupid worldview, influenced by the welfare state of yugoslavia, because that was the only time where those inept retards were able to function and make some decent living, during the Yugo years. They're probably aware how fundamentally stupid they are as people, and they know they can't compete in anything other than cleaning toilets, so they are very Yugo-friendly.

But there's a catch, they're also white mudslimes lol so think about that for a second. Think about a group of "people", who are friendly towards (((socialism))) and the gibs it grants you - but will also fall for the inbred philosophies of mudslimery.

TLDR they're the dumbest, in the most literal sense, group of people in Europe. They have significant IQ deficiency, their leader in the 90s took advantage of that. Many Al Quaeda members like Khalid Sheik Muhammed, Bin Laden and so on, were in Bosnia during the 90s, but not just as visitors - they all got Bosnian passports. LMAO. Also, it was in Bosnia where decapitating was introduced, by mudslime scum, in the 90s.

Today they live on wahabbi gibs and tolerate wahabbi cells where those mudslimes live in seclusion and probably practice inbreeding and head chopping. All Bosnia, including the Hercegovno meme, deserves death.

The truth is everyone tried to genocide, backstab or in any other way to fuck over one another throughout history and there are no 'good sides', only propaganda

Muslims were constantly raping, stealing and killing so Serbs fought back and Gerhard Schröder together with cia assassin Joschka Fischer (murdered Petra Kelly) faked evidence to start a war.

I don't know if they're the stupidest people in Europe, not when you have Albanians on the same continent.

Or do you subscribe to the theory albozergs aren't human to begin with and thus don't count under "people"?

Albanian/Greek here, honestly the only good side was Croatia

>t.Manlet stefan suckocockavic

>t. tonibljerim diasporazerg

>implying im either gh*g or Diaspora

I don't see any difference between albanian scum and bosnian subhumans. Very similar. Before the (((migrant crisis))) those two groups of inbreds were the northernmost mudslimes in Europe.

You have to be a special kind of stupid to be a mudzie. Also, during Tito years, religion was "banned" in a way so these mongrels were kinda, sorta, extremely loosely speaking, cohab-friendly.

When those brakes were off, they've shown their true colors. Subhuman, cowardly scum.

Srebrenica wasn't a straightforward "muh genocide", it was a war crime at best, but we have to thank (((Americans))) to promote and fund the eternal guilt tripping on this subject and pumping the agenda.

REEEEEEEEE BALKANNIGGERS GET IN HEREEEE

"Bosniaks" we're never a true ethnic group until Tito proclaimed them.
Before that they were just Croatians/Serbians who converted to Islam because of the Ottomans

meh
i don't feel like it

>t. Le religion m-matters i swear

Serbs were Zog bootlickers
Bosnians are /ourguys/
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As Croatia and Slovenia declared independence Bosnian muslims wanted to follow their example... but desired to create an Islamic state.

Both Croats and Serbs were against it.

Then Muslims started to kill Serbs arround Sarajevo.

The war stats after Izmet Fekalija manages to fuck up diplomatically despite having everything handed to him on a silver platter.

Croats initially stay allied with Muslims due to the common enemy thanks to the war in Croatia.

As the war in Croatia was ending Muslims found them selves surrounded by hostile Serbs and Croats who started to become vocal about the genocidal shit they pulled on us in central Bosnia.

And then the Clintons stepped in and helped their Saudi backed Muslim allies by forcing the Dayton agreement onto Serbs and Croats.

This delayed enough to allow muslims to propagate, slowly force the Serbs and Croats to emmigrate due to shit economy while building up jihadist camps and settlements in the mountains.

If another war starts we will need to evacuate all the Serbs and Croats so we can napal the whole shithole to the ground.
It's the only way to stop the infeastation.

Its alright serbbro, yellowhouse you another time

It does, kike. For example, I can't say there are no stupid christians - there are, I know them.

But I can't say I ever heard about such thing as "smart mudslime".

Get it?

My family killed kikes thank you very much mr.Titococksucker

>Bosnians are /ourguys/

Oh sure they are, both dumb, retarded, unibrow mongrels with a special feature of audible stupidity. Don't rape your sister today, Cenk.

Muslime are 50% of the population + croats its like 80%

>mr.Titococksucker

Your flag checks out, goy.

>t. got bullied by a muslim and is still assmad over it

Yugoslavia was a mini Soviet Union and Slovenia, Bosnia and Croatia wanted out, but Serbs were too autistic to allow peaceful seccesion

>what is being forced out your country in 1945 so you flee to the place of opportunity

>bullied by a muslim

Don't rape your sister, Cenk.

lmao confirmed got bullied. Sad!

Mfw Yugoslavia and the USSR had a disagreement in the late 40s and Yugoslavia basically became neutral/slightly west commies

The Bosnian war was however the fault of Muslims.

Honestly only in Croatia were the Serbs the agressors.

thoughts on these ethnostates? no bully pls

based

>t.Manlet who forgets Albania is about to get western fyrom

Honestly most of Bosnia east of Kupres belongs to the Serbs.

Albanians can be civilized but have to get their shit culture beaten out of them.
They need a crusade+colonization to be fixed.

Historical Croatian clay

this

>Be Bosnia
>be 48% muslim Slav
>this somehow qualifies me for statehood
>have (((referendum))) for independence no one but them wanted
>surprised Serbs boycotted
>chimp out
>Serbs are sensitive to turk chimpouts
>btw their political platform was called "The Islamic Declaration" lol
>form Serb republic
>war breaks out
>muslims vs other muslims vs serbs vs croats
>get annihilated because your a minority in the country you want independent
>import thousands of mujaheddin to fight for you
>get utterly rekt
>oy bre allah we just wanted a multi culti bosnia (taqiya)
>tfw yugoslavia was already multicultural
Need I go on? You literally did it to yourselves.

Don't do it, Cenk. Maybe fuck your cousin but don't plow your sister. Not like this, not today.

there is no such thing as bosniak, it is a cultural experiment made by the austrians in bosnia, when the ottoman empire was kicked out of europe, they basicly decided it is a good idea to convince the croats and serbs that converted to islam that they are not croats and serbs,

Ustace are Balli Kombëtar counterparts, gotta like em

Why ya mad?

Splitting of Bosnia when?

Republic of srpska is like Kosovo so i support 100%

Nice try, tonibler

Not even by Austrians, they were just called muslims back then. Then it became Muslims (with a capital M) in the Kingdom of Yugoslavia (I mean seriously, have you ever heard of an ethnic group whose only claim to particularity is religion and that's it) - and finally, in SFRY, the communist social experiment went full steam ahead with the creation of a real life meme ethnicity - the Bosnian.

Finally, Bosnians themselves, butthurt that Bosnian just means 'person from Bosnia' (as in Croats and Serbs as well), invented the new meme identity of 'Bosniak'.

In reality, "Bosniaks" are just Croats and Serbs (mostly Serbs though, I never did get this meme that they're all Croats in denial that some right-wing groups try to peddle here) who converted to Islam out of economic reasons in the Ottoman Empire (tax exemptions, not having to send your children to be jannisaries etc.)

>like Kosovo

Fuckin kike.

see: #based

Soon Miloš.
Prepare to evacuate your fellow Serbs so we can napalm the whole country safely and then make a clean split with everything east of Kupres to the Serbs and everything west of it to Croatia.

Then we can build a nice big wall in the middle and be good neighbours.

You'd get the industrial potential of the east Bosnian mines and we finally get our historical borders or (deffendable borders to be exact) back.

Can't wait to restore the old castles from Jajce to Duvno

See: Proud 2m tall siptar

I get it - but what about all the mentions of Bosnia as a territory back in the 15th century and older...what about that? Just curious, not advocating for those mongrels' identities.

Arnautovic detected

Soon, m8, soon...
From what I hear, Izmetbegovic is chimping out because his own Constitutional Court told him to change the election laws because they were super biased against Croats in Bosnia. He actually started threatening Croatia that he will "stop us from building the Peljesac bridge (EU funding for which is already secured)"; meanwhile Croats in Bosnia are getting increasingly fed up with this shit and it's only a matter of time until they support the Serbs and run a referendum to dissolve the federation, let RS go its own way and split up the rest of it on ethnic lines (I get the feeling this won't go over too well with the mudslimes)

Are any of the serbs or croats in this thread twinks?

The muslims from the Una area and Kupres area are muslim Croats tho.
The ones east of Kupres are Serbs.

Still neither can be converted back so it's best to remove them in a joint operation.

Infighting between Babo's forces and 5. Korpus makes me giggle to this day

It was a duchy under the control of Croatian and then later Serbian nobility. Back then the plebs didn't matter and were for the most part just Slavs with no particular differences between them and plebs from Poland or Russia.

As soon as I realized this was going to be a Balkan thread, I thought, surely there will be a Croat in this thread acting like a mother hen. I scrolled down and there were four.

>Sad!

""""bosniaks"""" wanted an ethnostate, and were given one, Serbs wanted an ethnostate, considering we've been living here for a thousand years, AND WERE DENIED!

If everyone got their right to self-determination we would've avoided the war, but the foreigners took one side- the wrong side. Now, with Yugoslavia destroyed we see it being part of the Migrant route, something a strong Yugoslavia would have never allowed.

>tl;dr Euros destroyed Yugo so they could import their bulls from Africa and ME.

P.S. Bosnia was an experiment in libertarianism /spoiler/ it fucking failed /spoiler/

How can he stop you from building a bridge in your own territory lmao

Ready to watch from Albanian border eating popcorn

it was a croatian land until the hungarians inherited the crown, then some hungarian king gave it to his yunger son, and i think in 12th century it sliped out of theri control and became independent until the ottomans conquered them

I meant to say an-cap society

Tim Judah seems to have some deep-seeded resentment of the Serbs. All the so-called "facts" presented in this book are twisted and peppered with his own personal distortion of the truth. Not only, but he also contradicts events which have been described by noted authorities involved in the various situations that he describes here. The worst of it is that his writing espouses a style that convinces the reader of his point of view, with very few facts or dim allusions to having obtained information from reliable sources. I find this author not at all objective, and wonder if somewhere in his past he doesn't have some kind of skeletons in his closet which would make him so despise a nationality. I would suggest to potential readers that time with this book is not at all well spent, and Tim Judah's otherwise impressive credentials defy the sensationalist nature of this work.

America was on the wrong side in this war just like they are on the wrong side in every war , americans are the true traitors of the white race and they need to be purged

It was a perfect ancap society, genocide, total war, McMassacres, etc

>Redpill me on the Bosnian war.

Muslim shitskins killing christian shitskins

It isn't well doccumented but they were a dutchy under Croatia with the eastern parts including some parts of Serbia which means everything east of central Bosnia was mostly Serbs.
Then there was an internal conflict for the crown of St. Stephen in Hungary and nobody cared enough for the fact that the Šubić family conquered the whole area and basically created an independent kingdom.

I'll take a bait. Please OP and all others, appreciate my time writing this.

It is comlex story, interweend with politics of whole region, aminly Yugoslavia.

So, story goes like this.

When Austrian-Hungarian state collapsed, state of SHS formed, State of Slovenes, Croatas and Serbs. Serbs were huge minority in Croatia, so they got special rights and they were huge minority in that state. Later no one wanted to legitimise this government, so they asked Kingdom of Serbia to help it out.

*fast forward* - *cont*

aside from Tesla, Slavs are subhuman scum
low iq, alcoholism, abortions left and right, women are total sluts
the only reason they have it good in eastern europe is because Germany removed all the Jews there

Yugoslavia was many years not so functional state, even if we go back to its beginning "Kingdom of SHS" - Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes. In the beginning there were mainly tensions between Croat and Serb elite, who also lived in territory of banovina Croatia. There were also tensions with FYROM, who also wanted independence hence assassination in Marsei. - nonfunctional state. King with dictatorship tried to build Yugoslavian identity and in same moment gave huge concessions to Croat leadership in order to pacify him, but shit happens.

*skip fast forward* -*cont*

Under Socialist Yugoslavia, it was no different - one of most famous examples showing that even during TITOs reign, national ambitions of elite were not under control is "Croatian Summer of 1970" when inside of "Union of Communist of Croatia" movement started which wanted federalised country, more right to Croatia (read Croat federation and elites ruling it) - outcomes of it are different. Some say TITO has cut those who initiated and were in movement, others say TITO (his government) gave huge consciousnesses to Croatian Elite. In my humble opinion, I think it was both.

There were also huge unrest regarding Albanian population on Kosovo, wanting their own federal subjet.

Ten years after that, it was not any different. Republics and their elites wanted more of "freedom" to do what they wanted, but Serbia elite were powerless, because their power was "gerrymandering" divided between two autonomous provinces, who could stop any constitutional changes and also because of this, Serb elite had weak power inside CK (central comity).

*cont*

Conflicts between elites inside communist party of Yugoslavia has begun - (propaganda apparatus) media started firing shots at each other. Dissidents of past started returning/organising nationalist parties of national awaking, which further spread fear among people.

Meanwhile Milosevic rallied people against nationalism, but as same time used it as protector of Serbs on Kosovo, who were saying Kosovo autonomous government is not treading them well. (1987) - With series of popular coups he managed to overthrow the leadership of those autonomous, put new leadership which booster his power inside Serbia as well in CK of Yugoslavia.

With new power he abolished huge autnomies of Kosovo and Vojvodina which in his opinion and opinion of his flowers made Serbia weaker, which was greeted by nationalist who began to sung "oh Serbia, from three part, you will be whole again". 1988?

*cont*

>it all started when a spastic serb shot the heir to tha Hungarian throne

As a Dutchman I really like it when Sup Forumsacks from the other side of the Europe put things like this in perspective.

Like usual, we are only ever taught the "official" version of events were the muslims did nothing wrong. They were good boys and dindu nuffin' and the Serbs were literally fucking Nazis.

He can't do shit, that's the point. Oh, he threatened to "unilaterally set the border on sea" but that would just mean instant war. In fact, the only reason the bridge costs so much in the first place is to allow shipping to pass below so the argument of how it will make Bosnia unable to go to sea is debunked. It's just butthurt that he'll miss out on all those people going through Neum and paying customs to BiH

Serbs are commie faggots

the muslims slaughtered both croatian and serbian soldiers and civilians, there was a short period of time when the croats and serbs worked together to stop the muslims

Burgers are pathetic little obedient kike slaves.

They also imported a bunch of Mujahedin fighters from the Middle East who are now a big security problem (vehabije aka wahhabis). You can literally find ISIS flags flying is some villages in mudslime parts of Bosnia.

see: Death to America, ya Ali

>Then we can build a nice big wall in the middle and be good neighbours.
why would we build a wall?

Milosheveic meawhile with all his new gained power in CK (highest body of communist party) blocked other communist parties and their proposals of confederation of Yugoslavia, which in his opinion and his followers only lead into abolishing of Yugoslavia. Slovene delegation got mad and left congress of SKJ and after that also Croats which meant death of SKJ (Union of Communist of Yugoslavia).

In first parliamentary west style democracy elections, in most of federal subjects nationalists parties won. In Croatia HDZ, whith Tudjman as its leader, in Bosnia where Muslims were majority a DSA - jihad like party with Alija Izetbegović who wrote "Islamic Declaration" (later in war, jihadi all around world came to help them out). In Serbia actualy Socialist won, who borrowed to certain degree some of Nationalist rektoric, but so did other "socialist" parties in other republics.

*cont* - shit is going down the spiral

except he didn't? and like he said it would be a fucking shitshow if he tried to enforce his treats, im sure you will give us a hand if that happens, right?

I hate Wahhabist in America say how Bektashis arent real Albanians, yet we did everything from declaring Albanian independence to btfo italy twice

i swear i saw a story in some newspaper that not even bosnian muslims are allowed to go near them if they want to stay alive

>im sure you will give us a hand if that happens
I don't fucking know, we have a track record of working against our own interests lately. Maybe if someone more...radical was in power.

Wahhabist Albanians*

The worst thing about Bosnian scum is that it serves as a rift between Cro and Serb relations. We are supposed to hate Serbs - and Bosnian scum are promoted as victims of Serb nazi killer maniacs etc etc - hence, Cro and Bosnian scum "should have the same enemy".

Absolutely pathetic. The (((politicians))) and the (((media))) won't ever allow for the alliance between Cro and Serbs to cleanse these lands of mudslimes scum, in Bosnia, Kosovo, Albania...

It's all a fuckin joke.

>lesbian pm & vuvic

you dont need a radical, just an oportunist, if they attempt something you get rs under your direct rule basicly for free, and even get praises for 'keeping the peace' in bosna, as the americans like to say it

i wish we were literally Nazis..

>t.Catholic scum

That kinda looks like Belka

DO IT

the lesbian part is not that big of a deal when you consider she is from Krk, i dont know about them but i wouln't like it if a serb is put as pm,

It could be done if it were done smartly. But I can't expect smart moves when we have oafs like Dacic high up in the political pyramid. The man is a walking embarrassment.

*hang in there, this going to be fast*

New elected governments of republics push for independence. Army is like wtf, what are we going to do? it is our obligation to protect. Slovenia holds referendum and says bye bye. Government of Yugoslavia like wtf, lets resolve this. Miloshevic makes deal with Slovene goverment and pulls back Yugoslav Army, Croat leadership votes against it (scheming maximum). Croatian leadership takes constitional rights of Serb population inside of Croatia, who were Constitutional nation (without them no constitution can be changed). they go wtf and start organising even more. In Bosnia, Croats and Muslims scheme together for indepednce of Bosnia, Serbs are against, they want to stay in Yugoslavia and say "if you want to go, go, but you will not pull us with us". Serbs are constitutional in Bosnia too, hence kinda illegal what is happening, but who cares. So barricades and borders start happening in Bosnia too. *some more shceming between everyone happening* oh before that weapons start comming in, weapon traders very happy, bussines is booming. Some idiot starts shooting somewhere everything goes ablaze.

*cont*