Reminder that individualism is redpilled

Reminder that individualism is redpilled.

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Reminder that western liberal individualism is degenerate and atheistic and that religious collectivism is redpilled.

Reminder that individualism leads to globalism

>let a group tell you what to do, what to believe, how to think
can you get any more cucked than that

how so

>be individualist
>reject culture and tradition because you wanna do your own thing
>eventually rest of world follows suite
>no more culture
>no more tradition
>big giant cesspool of degeneracy
>one world culture
And collectivism is thinking as a group. It isn't "here do what I say when I say." It's putting the tribe over yourself.

Faggot commies with no individual achievements detected.

le ultra enlightened centrist detected

It is evident that the state is a creation of nature, and that man is by nature a political animal. And he who by nature and not by mere accident is without a state, is either a bad man or above humanity; he is like the

"Tribeless, lawless, hearthless one, "

whom Homer denounces- the natural outcast is forthwith a lover of war; he may be compared to an isolated piece at draughts.


But he who is unable to live in society, or who has no need because he is sufficient for himself, must be either a beast or a god: he is no part of a state. A social instinct is implanted in all men by nature, and yet he who first founded the state was the greatest of benefactors. For man, when perfected, is the best of animals, but, when separated from law and justice, he is the worst of all; since armed injustice is the more dangerous, and he is equipped at birth with arms, meant to be used by intelligence and virtue, which he may use for the worst ends. Wherefore, if he have not virtue, he is the most unholy and the most savage of animals, and the most full of lust and gluttony.

Fascism is also collectivist.

Wow dude this was SUPER deep. Like, you're so cultured. You even had a statue guy to back up how cultured you are.

Gosh, this whole board is so intellectual and historically knowledgeable. If doth by a man penus weenus, then whenith came the hoppitus woppitus? Checkmateth atheisthsth!

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You can never get rid of the concept of "God"
Either god is an other worldly deity, the individual, the government, or nothing
Giving government god status is communism which has contributed nothing to civilization. Giving god status to nothing is nihilism and the death of civilization, usually comes to the conclusion of "well nothing matters, aspiration gets me no where, might as well sit around and let government baby me" aka communism.
Individualism is just like these in the sense that there is no objective metric for anything and therefore life is still meaningless. You can try and ascribe meaning to things as an individual but no one man can be the god of his own reality. Individualism leads to no reason for society or culture and instead implies that there are as many cultures as there are individuals (i.e. globalism).
Religious collectivism has contributed the most to the world and gives rules that lead to happier lives and better societies.

if your individual life is less valuable than the well-being of a group you subscribe to (and which also exclusively indoctrinates you) you are no different than ISIS or the Crips or the Bloods. Family is important, friends are important, but a large organization is just as trustworthy as any government is.

Yes, and fascism is for niggers.

And you will be thrown to a psychiatrist and they will stuff you full of meds. Happens to kids way too much.

AND the individual is free to choose what he wants, he is not forced to be free.

Individualism is blue pill

Ethnocentric cooperation in order to foster a homogenous white environment where individualism can actually flourish... is the real red pill

Only if you view collectivism and individualism as binary absolutes defined only by race and class. Given that fascists believe in more than just race, a common good and high ideals to build a better man and by extension a better society, as well as the self ownership and the meritocracy of private enterprise, fascists are more individualistic than socialists.

Not to be le edgy centrist but there's a balance between individualism and collectivism.

For example, meme "do as thou wilt" ancaps are absolute degenerates because they reject all forms of societal order- their only concern is being able to do whatever they want. Communists and leftists are the exact same way.

On the opposite end of the spectrum, collectivism is bad in the "hive mind" sense. Leftists are also guilty of this- it is plainly observable with the Left's unanimous acceptance of all sorts of degeneracy and their unanimous rejection of any traditional Western culture.

The proper balance is a society that is unified under one culture and preferably a handful of religions- religions that are compatible with each other and allow for cross debate; think more Christian denominations than Islam and Judaism- with individuals able to move through society and challenge its norms to within a healthy degree.

As long as the religious sects all uphold free will, personal responsibility, and meaning to the universe in some way, it works.

Christianity has all the characteristics that lead to a healthy society and individualism always leads back to "feel good now" actions.
>inb4 turn le other cheek praise jesus

Pic related is a good way of looking at it; individualism turns toxic when one is unable to conceive themselves as part of a larger whole, the way Christianity teaches.

Wrong fucking pic rip me

Only when individualism is the driving force for personal achievement and enterprise that better serves a unified collective.

Nihilistic and anarchist individualism are societal cancer.

Yall can do whatever you want but youre all going to follow me anyway.

>Im a individual
says everyone

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Individualism and mutuality go hand to hand

Mutuality = basically an individualist form of collectivism

The final redpill, I think, lies in the realization of the fact that capital matters, and individuals who have the skill to control capital and care after each other in a mutual way are the ones capable to dominate the world

agreed. collectivists are brainlets.

Cooperative Individualism is the best way of organizing society. Others are unnatural.

It's redpilled in a homogenous society, e.g., Iceland, Japan.

Elsewhere it's a Jew-shill for whites not to work together.

>one world culture
How is that a bad thing? Id like it if everyone spoke english instead of a language with an inefficient information rate.