Why are tech companies so liberal? Is it because these people are autistic weird fucks who are "weak" as men/women?

Why are tech companies so liberal? Is it because these people are autistic weird fucks who are "weak" as men/women?

Then companies that attract strong, masculine men such as banks, firearms, automotive and construction are mainly polar opposite.

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scottbarrykaufman.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Psychological-Science-2012-Hodson-0956797611421206.pdf
davesource.com/Fringe/Fringe/Politics/Conservatism-and-cognitive-ability.pdf
sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S104160801300215X
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hackers used to be libertarians. new generation is basically feminized beta millennials who are leftist by design. they're the product of a socialist school system.

also, this:

bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-09-05/the-lonely-lives-of-silicon-valley-conservatives

Get with the times, OP, liberalism is the driving force nowadays.

You're there to work, not sperg your political views. So fuck off faggot.

>feminized beta millennials who are leftist
Nice keywords

>socialist school system
???

>liberalism
I don't think that word means what you think it means

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t. Pajeet

Because liberal policies result in better profits, and they are interested in maximizing the return for their investors.

Who would you rather be liked by? Rich SJWs, or poor redneck racists?

wew lad you sure got me with that original comment

The nerd stereotypes are all true. I've met people in SV on excess of $150k a year in their mid 20s who have never had a girlfriend.

SV/programming as a profession attracts weak, lardy, feminine faggot-men. There's a huge population of tranny programmers in San Fran for example. These people are so biologically submissive that the idea of standing up to any sort of established norm terrifies them. They also buy into liberal ideas because they think they may win women's favor as a result of parroting sycophantic ideas about women infantrymen etc. There's a tendency of misogyny/gynophilia that runs throughout nerd "culture" in general too.

I also blame the STEM fields and wider culture for encouraging these stereotypes as a positive thing ("us nerd right? us nerds xD")

Nerd "culture" was a mistake.

>There's a tendency of misogyny/gynophilia that runs throughout nerd "culture" in general too.

Should say the best example of this apparent contradiction in terms is Whedon.

Probably a combination of factors.

1. High IQ tends to skew left for various debatable causes.
2. Tech people are dreamers/creative types which also tend to skew left.
3. Tech people now go through the same Marxist indoctrination camp colleges and unis as anyone else.
4. Likely low confrontation, low testosterone type people which tend to skew left.
5. The programmers themselves may not be left so much as the management is, and the management will hire people skewing left in various ways.
6. Many tech giant CEO's and high up executives see themselves as visionaries driving "progress" for humanity which is also going to skew left.

>Then companies that attract strong, masculine men such as firearms, automotive and construction are mainly polar opposite.
Conversely:

1. These tend to be lower IQ areas which skews right.
2. These are less "creative" areas and more functional and practical areas which skews right.
3. These people tend not to go to college and thus don't have propaganda poured into their skulls for four years.
4. These are blue collar jobs that tend to involve manual labour and appeal to high testosterone men which skews right.
5. Management of such companies will be right leaning and look for people with similar values.
6. They may be looking to conserve values related to their companies and often are small businesses working locally, so have less "change the world!" dreams.

But why are engineers and engineering companies often a lot more conservative despite being often just as socially strange as "nerds" ?

>1. High IQ tends to skew left for various debatable causes.

Internationally the highest IQ countries are all well to the right of Western Europe/N. America (East Asian ones).

companies that sap every penny out of their customers
companies that cant wait to even have the slightest hint of monopoly to start removing features
>liberals

>despite being often just as socially strange as "nerds" ?

They're not. This is a problem unique to programmers and other "tech" types, sysadmins being one of the best examples.

Every single civil engineer I've met has been a normal person. Every. Single. One.

>Every single civil engineer I've met has been a normal person. Every. Single. One.

This. Most engineers in their 30s are pretty ordinary people with wives and families. It's only in "development" that you'll find weirdos who horde porn and have piss bottles at home at the age of 35.

Nerd genocide when?

>The Chad Engineer
>The Virgin "Developer"

Someone needs to make this.

At least in my country Civil Engineering isn't taught or grouped into the same category as other eng. disciplines. May explain the normies.

The ElecE's, CompE's and ChemE's I've met are just as submissive and avoidant in nature as the CS people I've met. Hell, I've has more EE's shill Thinkpads in my face than CS.

>Hell, I've has more EE's shill Thinkpads in my face than CS.

That surprises me. My experience with engineers is that because their work isn't as abstract as programmers, they're more grounded in reality even if they're a bit awkward.

Part of the problem with why programming encourages such rampant faggotry is that it allows people to lead lives of complete and utter digital seclusion in a way virtually no other job/profession does.

Also note that programmers 20-30 years ago were nowhere near as bad as they are today (general milennial subhumanism plays a part in all of this). Remember that part of Stallman's butthurt is because his then MIT-peers all went and go normal careers with big companies and had families.

The trend of high IQ being linked to Liberal and Progressive values is extremely well established. The causes behind this though can range from direct relationship, to optimism, to plain misidentification (people saying they're progressive/liberal but then actually having conservative viewpoints when questioned on specifics) and all of that can be debated endlessly but the trend stands across a lot of data.

As well you may notice that highest average IQ nations does not equate to "high IQ". A national average of 108 in Hong Kong makes no strong indication about the political tendencies of IQ 120 people within its society because those people still will be a minority in voting power and so the policies of the country won't reflect those of a high IQ individual.

And even if you took national IQs combiend with national policies as some indication, the top East Asian nations with the highest IQs were all socialism ridden communist leftist shitholes other than the ones that America either saved or nuked. Singapore is the only outlier to this.

Because it's popular at the moment. Most of them are living in the past and somehow think they are 'fighting the man', because the man used to be conservative. They don't actually realise that they have become the establishment, and are actually a lot worse (in a 1984 Orwellian way) than the conservatives ever were, because they actually think they have the moral high ground.

Actually if you look at stats, business majors, economists and engineers tend to be more right wing, and more wealthy. These companies are just paying lip service to the current political fad and are too scared to say no to this shit as they think it will make their public image look bad.

I think it may be because the strongly conservative people in tech are far crazier than the strongly liberal ones.

One guy I used to work with used to bring his guns into work to "clean" them when he was taking breaks. Weird, but tolerable. Other people bring in hobby related stuff to work on while thinking.

Then one day he forgot to unload one before cleaning, and fired off a round in the direction of HR. That quickly ended his employment.

>high IQ tends to skew left

I've seen stats that say the opposite.

>A national average of 108 in Hong Kong makes no strong indication about the political tendencies of IQ 120 people within its society because those people still will be a minority in voting power and so the policies of the country won't reflect those of a high IQ individual.

You can use proxies for this though, in HKSAR the non-geographical constituencies (i.e. the seats in the Legco voted for by upper middle class professionals) are nearly all pro-Beijing, i.e. more right wing than Joshua Wong and libtards like him.

>all socialism ridden communist leftist shitholes

Not true. SK, Taiwan, HKSAR, Japan etc are all developed. PRC may not be fully developed but its an impressive place.

I'm guessing you've never heard of Japan then? Probably the most conservative of all the Asian countries.

It's not about fear. They genuinely believe this stuff. Corporate elites really are committed to social liberalism. It's one of the reason I find leftists who rail against corporations to be so bizarre. We live in an age where "SlutWalks" are headed by major entertainment labels and sponsored by CocaCola.

Social liberalism is 99% supported by the elite: Corporations, most politicians, vast majority of academics and journalists etc.

Aren't other industries like pharmaceuticals and weapons more profitable?

>t. Man who masturbates to anime porn making up stories about how people who own guns are "weird".

What a time to be alive.

They're not real right-wingers to be fair, they just support lower income taxes. None of them will ever take a stand against fag marriage or trannies.

I didn't have a problem with it; but HR freaked out when they heard the gunshot.

It's probably due to them liking the practical design. CS memers buy a "gaming" laptop, slap a few stickers on it and call it a day.

Any software company worth a damn has their programmers working in teams, the seclusion aspect just doesn't hold true for those working for large tech companies. Scrum is usually a daily thing.

I feel it's the rise of the Internet that caused this. It exposes these people to mind-altering information that wasn't available to the programmers of a generation ago. It also puts them into contact with people that reinforce their deluded beliefs rather than their local peers challenging them.

Practical focus vs abstract focus may be one of the reasons for the difference. Though from what I've seen in the industry, you're probably better off with practical programmers because they focus on completing features instead of dreaming up new and often impossible ones.

I'm rambling.

Not true. SK, Taiwan, HKSAR, Japan etc are all developed. PRC may not be fully developed but its an impressive place.

That's what I said.

I mentioned Japan.

All of which of course is, once again, just a tangent from the main point since national IQ averages aren't data for the political tendencies distributed by IQ.

Can we just turn this into a work horror story thread instead?

Who is the most unhygienic programmer you've ever met? Who was the most antisocial?

>All of which of course is, once again, just a tangent from the main point since national IQ averages aren't data for the political tendencies distributed by IQ.

But wouldn't you expect international trends to mirror domestic ones, if the IQ distributions by political sympathy are indeed universal? If not, then they're not universal it would seem.

>They don't actually realise that they have become the establishment
wait did hillary win

Silicon Valley is ridiculously libertarian.

Faggot shit? Libertarian.
Supports unfettered immigration? Libertarian.
Justifying forcibly shutting down opposing viewpoints with "muh property mothafucka"? Extremely libertarian.

In case you haven't realized by now, libertarians are the problem.

>high iq skew left
No, high IQ skews white, homogenous white areas skew towards wealth redistribution because they empathize with their neighbours, and mixed areas make whites skew right. URBANITES skew left. Also lower IQ.

California = most leftist = 48th lowest IQ, top most urban state tho.

Vermont = top tier IQ, but leftist = over 95% white though. In fact, that whole north eastern region is massively white, and rural, which is the ACTUAL reason their IQ is higher, their politics is a simple result of their circumstances.

Pic related, more >100IQ states went red than blue. Every high IQ democrat state that liberals try to use as an example of their high IQ myth is actually an almost pure white state, that are also among the most rural of all states to boot.

Nice try though.

Trump's victory doesn't magically make 90% of US academics, journalists and tech CEOs socially liberal.

Also I want to see the changes to H1B made just to spite pajeets. There are some good Chinese PhDs working for US companies, but the arrogance of pajeet 'web developers' is nauseating.

Also has anyone else noticed a massive spike in the number of poos in the US entertainment industry (The Big Sick, Master of None etc)?

Because poos are one of the most competent minorities, and unlike the nogs, they don't fucking kill themselves on set.

>Also has anyone else noticed a massive spike in the number of poos in the US entertainment industry (The Big Sick, Master of None etc)?

second/third gen Indian SJWs are the worst. These are people almost uniformly from upper caste, privileged families where the poo's mother will scold servants for smudging the silverware.

You're too white, and consequently too "fair". The question is what their attitudes are towards us whites, and their attitudes are universally negative and hostile. Who cares how clever they are? In fact the smarter they are the worse.

I've seen LOTS of stats that say the opposite.

>EA popularizes stuff like DLC, false advertising and makes shit games in general
>EA gets voted worst company in America 3 years in a row
>EA starts pandering to LGBTQYZSDFASDADHASDHAD and other mentally ill people
>EA stops getting voted as the worst company in America

My expectations are irrelevant to the data and national averages do not map to or predict individual habits. The average Chinese man is 5'7", from this one would infer the average Chinese man wouldn't be very avid basketball players. This average contains no informative content on the basketball tendencies of Chinese men who are 6'5", who are a minority and may be inclined towards it.

If a country's national IQ average is 108, but researchers find that a strong and consistent curve towards progressiveness doesn't begin to present until IQ 120, then one would not expect a nation's political tendencies to reflect the curve as the point at which the curve begins is on the small end of the country's bell curve, thus representing a minority of policy influences and culturally dominant ideas.

It's actually not a try. It's psychologically verified studies. psychologytoday.com/blog/the-scientific-fundamentalist/201003/why-liberals-are-more-intelligent-conservatives
journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0022022115611749
scottbarrykaufman.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Psychological-Science-2012-Hodson-0956797611421206.pdf
davesource.com/Fringe/Fringe/Politics/Conservatism-and-cognitive-ability.pdf
sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S104160801300215X
aei.org/publication/are-liberals-smarter-than-conservatives/
sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289614000373

Oh and also we literally just went through establishing that political tendencies of an average voting population are not indicative of the political tendencies of that population's high IQ minority, so even if all the research didn't point to a correlation in liberalism and high IQ, your entire post would still be invalid anyhow on its own merits without being disproved by the actual psychological studies, so it's essentially wrong on two counts.

High INT vs low INT

Pretty simple OP

2nded.

That all is some ignorant guess work-- well done, user. Shame it's mostly accurate.

Yeah, your supposition is unfounded unless the engineer you speak of works at a gas station.

Well thought out. Here's your (you).

Because it's the only logical choice. They are smarter than you

>horde porn and have piss bottles
What's the problem?

>Actually if you look at stats
... of course Sup Forums considers any educational institution as "brainwashing facilities".

>be code ape
>smart

Lmao

To be fair, all of them are and so is society itself. How many people actually have their very own opinions, how many are just parrotting what they see on TV, or what their friends say who saw it on TV, or what their professors say in a lecture? Modern society has made it its job to claim that things that "shouldnt be", "cannot be". I mean, I guess schools and universities arent really brainwashing facilities, since to brainwash someone you need them to already possess some form of knowledge. Tuning facility seems more accurate.

Asians never vote for the GOP

>These people aren't Ron Swanson stans like me
>Terrified of standing up to established norms
>'trannies'
>Terrified of standing up to established norms

You...you do realize how hard you're projecting, right? Don't be mad you have some canned personality

Asian Americans vote Dem for racial-tribal reasons. You really think they're progressive? Let's see how progressive Patriarch Chang is when Mei Ling brings Tyrone round for dinner.

>You...you do realize how racist you are being right now?
>L...Literally shaking!

lmao gay shitlib

This guy is right:
To elaborate further:

Hacking requires a certain will to disobey, to find a different way than everybody else uses (that's pretty much the original definion of a "hack").
If you look at the startup scene, this gets multiplied: startup guys are people that want to follow their own rules. And of course those people influence each other.

Oh yeah, I too remember how Bernie won the election

see

And? You're aware that the president, congress and senate are conservative, right? How does it get any more "the man" than that?

Being liberal is just a convenient way to do illegal and highly unethical business but still be called good in the eye of the public. Google steals millions with tax dodging a d manipulating US politics on top of pushing a political agenda that will end the human race within a few decades, and shutting down websites and accounts of people who dissent, all under the guise of social justice. Some of them probably believe it, but at the end of the day it's just an easy tool.

Go back to your containment board

You don't even know what the "driving force" is or where it comes from. People have been saying shit like this for centuries now. It's Marxist dialectic historical thought trash proven wrong by:
>decline and fall of communism in several countries under different conditions(therefore proving that "not real communism" is a meme)
>fall of the socialist left and replacement of it by liberal left
>actual historical research on past periods(the transitions between "economic models" are a meme, feudal "slave empires" and capitalistic feudal ones were a norm rather than exception through the history of many countries)

Nowadays "liberal" left re purposed the same tired socialist slogans to their goals and they're just as false as they were back then.

OP:
1. Engineer's syndrome. For an engineer, especially one that delves in tech(where he has more or less full control over the thing he's making as he's not really limited by anything - I mean, come on, where's that killer app that kills those flagship processors so people upgrade every year - oh wait, there are none), the idea of fully structured, "mechanical" society, seems to be easily applicable. So they really believe that you can measure and scale everything so you make shit more liberal.

2. Lack of women in tech. The diversity doesn't mean shit. All that tranny or nigger acceptance shit doesn't mean shit. The nerds want some hot babes in their job because they're too scared to pick one up. Mind you - it's not about getting women to do tech, it's about having them around for comfort(but not necessarily productivity). Women like this because they like being in the centre of attention. They can't be so obvious about it so they dress it up in "diversity" and liberalism. In reality they're just screaming "I WANT MORE INTERACTION WITH WOMEN" in the ether.

3. It's a good excuse to push for outsourcing or H1B from underdeveloped countries so corps are all for it.

(cont)

Having more education doesn't mean you're going to earn more money. Notice "more" instead of "better". Women have more education but their median income is lower than male, despite the fact that hourly wage in the same jobs is equal. Magic, isn't it? That's because fucking journeyman machinist or welder straight out of school earns more than fresh graduates of almost every single kind. I think petroleum and aerospace engineers get paid more on average than gearheads. And what about people who studied education? Women's studies? Sociology? Many of them will never earn more than those gearheads. More education=/=better education.

4. Companies themselves. Majority of companies and the bigger the worse have issues with having "no balls". There's a reason for it and a very good one. The HR, marketing departments etc. are "infiltrated" by goons, feminists, liberals and other commies. It's mighty silly how the administrative arm of big corps reminds of civil administration. Same rules apply to them, the longer they exist and the bigger they are, the easier they are to infiltrate - which back in the 60's and 70's was part of open agenda of so called "radicals", and it's likely that it's still on the back of the head of some people*. This means that a codemonkey or two in XXXXXX can be straight-headed instead of being demoralized, but they are afraid to ever voice it because whole administration is filled with people with malfunctioning brains. Your great work performance won't matter if you're a wrongthinker as the case of that google guy shows. In fact he's the perfect example of a guy who exploited this thing - he knew what would happen after he published it, he probably contacted lawyer beforehand. Google will pay him lots of money now, it's just a matter of time. "Lack of balls" leads to the companies bending under lightest pressure as long as it doesn't concern their profits directly and being extremely slimy when it does.

*mind you, this is no conspiracy - people who enter companies voluntarily try to achieve the agenda's goals, which they share.

why they share them(indoctrination) is another aspect.

bump

Nice trips.
The problem is that Google, Facebook, etc. inadvertently pushes leftist propaganda on all the normies. Separating that from the employees who produce the content and services for these companies is near impossible.

All of this, though I'd add that the core of the issue is that Bezos, Zuckerberg, Page, etc. don't give a rats ass about SJW politics and are completely aware of what they're doing. Most people in tech I've interacted with are neo-liberal centrists who distance themselves from the human-centric aspects of their work. They're oversocialized and want to do what it takes to "be a good person" and make a positive impression on their co-workers, so the culture just fosters itself. They're driven by complacency and free Soylent and don't have the mental or emotional capacity to deal with anything other than their 9-5 jobs and going to the bar with friends after work.

This.

a lot of tech people will be from foreign countries
plus the factors listed in

>the weak shall inherit the earth

Or whatever that was said.

Because a large company benefits from gummint protection and libtards politicians sell that.

>Why are tech companies so liberal?

because the establishment is liberal.

They liberal because they go with the flow. If we lived national socialist reality, they would be national socialist. And everybody knows that their valuable employees i.e. engineers are not liberals.