Dreamers will have to return to this failed-state hell-on-Earth they so much longed, missed and wave its flag. Even if I have to drag them here.
They'll see they'll see the reality of living in a war zone crumbling nation. Oh, by the way, fellow Mexicans are wayyy more racist, so still more fucked you wetbacks, who only made the rest of us law-abiding Mexicans bad.
And if you want to return to the US, you dreamers will be vetted like the rest of us do for biz or pleasure. Which I doubt because you were illegally so bye, bye visa.
Nah, Trump will sign a bill that makes DACA permanent law and give amnesty to all of them anyways. 10 State coalition was threatening to rape it in court so Trump had to do something to save it.
Jose Thomas
This is my war zone crumbling town.
Fuck off were full.
Robert Edwards
You and me know those mojaditos come from the fields and the mountains. That's another thing, they don't know how to properly live in big cities.
So what, they'll have to run to their dusty village which is infested by cartels or abusive military. I want to see them crying for a safe space in the US after that.
Julian Turner
can't we send "MUH DRIMERS" to Guatemala or some shit? most of them just do field work anyways, maybe we could use them to clear a long line in the guatemalan border jungle in order to build a wall too, and have the centracas pay for it
Michael Miller
Well, I was wondering what these "dreamers" could have been running from so hard to want to come to the US.
Turns out they are "dreamers" because reality is too good for them.
Dylan Harris
BTW, last time I went to MTY a lot of white girls having caca brown boyfriends. What the fuck man? What's happening to Monterrey?
Joseph Price
American tourist in Guadalajara here. It is a very nice and modern city, security guards at malls have assault rifles and shotguns though. Also my girlfriend saw a cop on the ground bleeding from the head unconscious today.
Other than that. It seems great
Logan James
Pretty much sums a normal day. Glad you haven't been mugged. Take care man.
Joseph Butler
>Rape it in court How? Illegal immigrants are illegal immigrants. The executive order was unconstitutional.
Eli Parker
What is preventing Mexico from getting rid of the cartels? Surely there are more normies than cartel members.
Tyler Hill
que onda wey. diles a todos los paisas aqui en los estados unidos que TENGAN QUE REGRESAR A MEXICO. pro favor. y sin llorar
Tyler Morales
there's no one else to choose... all monterrey people are caca brown except the richy richers - it's a caste system in Mexico
Kayden Sanchez
I wonder if flooding mexico with 800,000 young people with American values and a proper education will actually allow Mexicans to kick off a proper revolution.
Anthony Carter
Uh, no hablar taco
Mason Jenkins
I have a summer home in rosarito it is not that bad.
Maybe when you are deported I can give you a job?
Carter Parker
The cartels are the government largely. Mexican government needs to be cleansed violently for anything to happen.
Parker Williams
>I wonder if flooding mexico with 800,000 young people with American values and a proper education will actually allow Mexicans to kick off a proper revolution. I think it would be best for everyone no matter what happens.
Xavier Howard
>800,000 people going into a country with 130,222,815 citizens will make a difference
Robert Powell
Is the reggeton, narcocultura and cholo-culture, they are making brownies appealing to women, just look how everybody in there worships reggeton, cartel de santa and all that thrash
Tyler Watson
>This is my war zone crumbling town Scotia Bank is the worst up here, I had no idea they had infected mexico
Carter Bailey
how hard would it be to forcibly clean up the cartels? couldn't we just declare war on them or something?
Brody Young
University teacher here, we were told a few months ago that we would receive some dreamers, i'll be able to compare first hand how does the american education system compares to ours.
It'll be interesting to say the least, there will be a cultural shock indeed, the difference the dreamers will make on the mexican landscape depends on how much money are they allowed to bring here, if they start from 0, they'll be completely fucked, at the mercy of whatever political party or church is willing to help them
Eli Rivera
sorry for the beanspeak. translation = tell them they have to go back
Ryan James
its been an all out war for at least 12 years
Joshua Bailey
what about airstrikes or drone strikes?
Austin King
You cant use drones cause cartels are cowards with guns, every time the gvt shows on they swiftly hide among civilians, we should adapt Duterte's strategy
Liam Phillips
God, it's gonna be beautiful.
Lincoln Young
Aren't they just going to end up in some execution video on Narcoblog or whatever the hell it's called anyway?
Ayden Brown
No, cartels do that gruesome shit against other cartel members, when they suspect somebody is a cartel member but they are not certain they just put a bullet on their head
Nathan Young
Oh, well that's kind of civil I guess...
Adrian Rivera
Godspeed Mexico, I hope this ends for the better in your country. Your people's nationalism needs to be focused on fixing the country, not expanding the shithole.
Hudson Roberts
I'd like to see them yell black lives matter and protest when they got cops shooting fucking miniguns at narcos from a helicopter
When one cartel is "destroyed" its only fractured into a myriad of local cartels, which become super violent in order to "eat" the other groups. And the cycle repeats.
Also, poverty. Poor people are drawn into it. One guy told me he doesn't care if his life expectancy is 28 or 29 in cartel wars, as long as he gets to see money in his lifetime. Crappy short-term decisions.
Also corruption. Big time corruption. The more money or whiter the better you're here in Mexico to get away with murder.
Hunter Jones
If I get deported, what city do you recommend? Mexico city is my main choice. Also what cellphone provider is top tier? Internet? Is Uber popular in Mexico, the metro doesn't look too comfy
Jace Phillips
True. Never thought of it.
Women will always be women, going for the losers.
I used to have a gf. White, from Guadalajara. I wanted to polish her. She wouldn't, she wanted to "party". She ended up pregnant with a fat ugly ass hole and left her. Now she's crying to get back with me, but I'm happily married.
Christopher Morris
/ptg/ is now openly defending amnesty jesus fucking christ what happened to that place
Jace Nelson
dodged a bullet there
Jace Brown
Corrupt cartel-infested Mexican govt VS cartels. It's a fucking joke this charade.
Someone has to intervene. UN sanctions. Something else.
Also, people in Michoacan joined forces to make civilian militia against cartels, but the fucking govt rounded them up instead of cartels. See what I mean?
Levi Sanchez
Nothing is comfy over here.
Also, Uber is super popular in Mexico City, Monterrey, Guadalajara, etc. Cabify too.
Julian Thompson
I think drone strikes are a good idea, especially in their remote hideouts where most planning is made.
Also, fuck poor civilians... poor Mexicans always side with cartels.
But those drones have to be US operated, never give them to Mexico govt. Please!
Adam Gray
Nope. Since 2003.
Ethan Cruz
>/ptg/ I don't see anything about amnesty there?
Carson Roberts
What if Trump sends a million soldiers to clean the country up and deal with the cartels and corrupt officials like Pinochet did with the commies?
Julian Taylor
The dreamer program was bullshit, a political stunt to embed and create a new generation of democratic party members due to the massive exodus in their population. A lot of them are self entitled, and feel they are right by virtue of "just being". Please slap the shit out of them, and demoralize them often. Maybe a few actually took their studies seriously instead of being given easy A's by their teachers, but i doubt it.
Noah Parker
well there ya go. point being that its a bit more complicated than declaring war. the corruption is so deep. cartels wield more power than the govt but prefer to operate in the 'shadows'. THeir assests are in cash and properties so its hard to quantify. and they let the shitty politicians and police chiefs and sicarios do all the dirty work. correct me if im wrong
Elijah Walker
Literally a bluff. It's very cut and dry. DACA is not a law. The president has full authority over it.
Illegals are still illegals. They are making a fuss about this the same way they made a fuss about every other ACTUAL law Trump is trying to apply.
Blake Reed
Who's we?
Some villagers in the jungle declared war on the cartels and wiped them out from the local community until the gov. went back in to set up shop for the cartels again.
As another kid pointed out, it's the gov. down there that is running that shit. Not "Super badass cowboy hate gangsters"
Justin Edwards
They'll just bitch about American intervention. It's a never ending bitch storm from brown people and women.
>PLEASE WHITE PEOPLE/AMERICA HEEELLLP!
>GTFO White people/America, no one needs you!
Leo Nguyen
You Mexicans should go on Reddit and say "we welcome the dreamers to our homes. Me casa You casa"
Julian Collins
It's gonna be a cruel thing. Just imagine the thought of living a different life with better things and then being forced to come back to the small and kinda forgotten town where your parents were born with no gringo stuff. That maybe will make them want to inmigrate...
Brandon Williams
As one guy has said before you, massive poverty. Also, people feel safer under the cartel than the Mexican government.
And just like Columbia, the Mexican government is too weak to deal with the cartels. The Mexican cartels are literally their own government now.
Dominic Myers
How much shit are Mexicans going to take before they BTFO their corrupt cartel bought government? Instead of running away to be poor in the USA, they should make their own country great.
Luke Kelly
But just for the sake of thinking ahead of the current events it's more likely that most flee to Canada, you know it's more like USA and they will receive anyone and do anything to give the impression that they are fighting the "evil nazi Drumpf"
Dylan Cook
Why would anyone leave their comfy life to fight a war against their cartel? If they were patriotic to begin with they would have never left.
Sebastian Young
wtf is happening there? i'm from Veracruz
Logan Thomas
Post your war rig.
Christian Smith
>Scotia bank
Ryan Lee
Much like you, my emu cucked friend, mexico has strict national gun control. Even if the people wanted to form a revolution, they literally do not have tools to do so.
I feel bad for them, but they still have to go the fuck back.
Nolan Parker
And the CIA.
Joshua Sanders
If you wanna know basically some people are criticizing the double standars of the dreamers; their parents flee the country and basically grew like americans, but some wave mexicans flags and brag about the pride and la raza while never been in Mexico, and now that the threat of coming back is real, well some of us are having fun.
Oliver Robinson
Fuck chicanos mate, they will not survive
Angel Young
Good, then they will not burden us any further, and won't cost you more than a burial/cremation.
Jonathan Richardson
you faggots from the CIA took our guns, look into what bullshit the Shadow government does and then can you blame us for being a shit country, but first look into everything starting with the school of the Americas
Angel Ward
Yea its sad what the CIA has done to your country. We haven't had any control over our government since JFK was assasinated, and what control we took back with Trump seems rather miniscule at this moment.
believe me, we are cancer but not as much as those fucking apes, at least we are useful for you gringos and very cheap
Cameron Cooper
>Dreamers have to go back >Trump wants Mexico to pay for the wall >Mexico can use the deported people Mexico doesn't even like to build said wall
It's a win-win
Dylan Cook
/ptg/ is literally a Reddit shill circle.
Evan Phillips
I was looking at TJ with streetview,and although I know there are better places to look at, its a fucking dump lol jesus, how do you even let it get that bad, everything is tagged up with gang signs or whatever, shit on the floor, broken down cars on the side, its like nobody follows the law. Why cant you guys enforce anything? Its no wonder this happened.
Jonathan Allen
The problem is gringos think the mexican shits they have in the usa are the same as the real mexican, and its not like that lol
Josiah Peterson
100% this
Xavier Lopez
Those sneaky bastards go there illegally, do crime-related things, ask for handouts, protest waving Mexican flag, don't even speak Spanish or Nahuatl anymore.
Oh those fuckers are coming back here, one way or another. There are still law-abiding Mexicans who believe in being good neighbors, study, and don't ask for welfare. Send them back here, that'll teach those traitors.
Kevin Gutierrez
I don't know why they're so upset, they're always waving your flag here and everything
Bentley Cooper
Yup, that's how they're gonna live!
Fucking parasite dreamers will come back here, and see for themselves the country they so much longed and miss, backwards hell-hole.
Also, illegals in general. They're coming back too! Fucking ass-holes think they're better than anyone. Little mojaditos will end up dead or starving, and mojaditas will be low-life ficheras and street walker prostitutes.
Colton Hernandez
I know right. They wave our flag, but live over there. They refuse to assimilate for won't turn back to Mexico because is dangerous.
What the hell do dreamers and illegals want? They don't even know, they people without land.
They want to be in the US? Be American. But nooo, they say they're Mexicans, well to Mexico they should be sent back asap.
Also, they think they're better than us Mexicans in Mexico. Why? Fucking caca brown wetbacks who live on welfare. They make us Mexicans look back.
No wonder they wanna throw them back here. They're cancerous everywhere they go.
Austin Rivera
they are artificial, just created to destabilize an economy and country.
Noah Lopez
Why the fuck does Vicente Fox act like his life depends on the United States taking as many illegal immigrants as possible?
Isaiah Flores
Just the irresponsible blabbering of a big mouted old man who is disconneted from the world. He's is the old man yelling at the clouds.
Jace Hill
but you could literally crap anchor babies on canada and get citizenship for your whole family. their message is loud and clear.
you don't even need a visa to go there, what are you waiting for?