Buy land in cash and own it 100% with no loans or mortgages

>buy land in cash and own it 100% with no loans or mortgages
>still have to pay taxes on it forever or the government takes your land
>effectively forced to get a job to continue owning your own land

how is this not extortion?

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Because it's a protection racket.

Allodial title

buy 3 goats on the land and tell the irs
no more property taxes.

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Today I noticed a small crack in my street that had a little bit of damp asphalt around it. Within an hour there was water shooting out of the middle of the road. I called my water utility to let them know, and there appeared a work crew of 9 guys, some heavy equipment, and a dump truck.

They dug up the entire road, fixed the water leak, and repaired my sewer lateral which they noticed was damaged by tree roots, effectively saving me thousands of dollars.

This is why we pay local taxes. The feds can eat shit though. They're a bunch of kike parasites and they're mostly criminals.

You are only a true American if you live outside the radar in the remote areas of Montana or Dakotas and hunt/grow your own food. Government today is a meme that has been destroyed centuries ago. We must live independently and not be slaves to the state!

is this actually possible?

>you should pay to fix things you do not own, use, or care about!

Saved you a few thousand dollars, costs the people a few tens of thousands.

>you are only a true american if you make your own life objectively worse in every way for no reason
oh but at least you can dodge taxes

Move to a place with no property taxes or Jew the system
>the value of my land has went down and ive taken a massive loss; cant pay taxes
>my hose is a historic building; get paid to maintain it
>my land is a wild life reserve/farm/epa bullshit; pay less or no taxes

>should
But I don't care if its right or wrong, or justified or unjustified.

I care that it works. And it does.

Revolutions are fought against people like you

>saying this online
Prepair to have your assets assessed by the IRasS you fasscist. Now be a good little goy and unclench your booty hole.

There are lots of ways around land taxes.
In many states the land tax is so low it's irrelevant.
For instance, where I live land tax is literally $400/year. If you can't afford that, even on a pension, you should just kys.

You are a slave and government is your master, as long as you're a good slave master government will let you keep some of the fruits of your labor. If you're a disobedient slave master government will take away your possessions and put you in a concrete box and take away a percentage of your life.

Ok so when I come and start fucking your wife and gagging her on my dick every Saturday, she's going to be in a better mood the rest of the week, so lets arrange that since it works and you don't care how it works.

my uncle lives off the grid in alaska and he has no teeth.
its not as romantic as you think it is.

YES STOP BEING A CITY FAGNIGGERJEW

You figured it out. You are paying for protection, don't want to pay? Well your neighbors (the government) will take your shit. If you are stronger then the government, feel free to stop paying them and prove it, you little bitch.

About 60% of americans couldnt come up with a quick 400 dollars without lending or selling shit.
sad fact.

But you can't, because the same state that taxes you prevents you from doing that.

You sure are fucking stupid, aren't you?

ITT: Statists

Have you never heard of voluntary cuckoldry?
Its all in the rave, and legal, it seems like you would be the type who would be cool with it, cuck.

sorry, do you not use roads or toilets or electricity or public water?

>own land on edge of industrial area
>used to rent to farmers for cattle
>different companies approach
>want to buy it so they can build on it
>deny for years
>eventually VW agree to lease the land
>profit

This is precisely why cults breed armies of children—it's all in vain against the alphabet soup.

get an ag exemption faggot

Oh, I read that as a rape threat. My mistake.

But now I don't see your point. I care how things work in the sense that I benefit from them. You outlining a situation where I don't benefit is irrelevant. This is purely about my own rational self interest, and it's in my best interest to take your money. Right and wrong do not exist, and so it's stupid to factor them in when making decisions.

what?

utility companies get revenue from taxes and your subscriptions to their services, not property tax.

someone who lives in the middle of bumfuck nowhwere and owns land but receives no services shoudlnt have to pay taxes every year just to 'keep' his land. we already pay income and sales taxes

And where do you get your facts?

If someone does not use PUBLIC roads, toilets, electricity or water, they should not be obliged to pay for their maintenance

But you aren't, you're paying for the privilege to live here. That's like saying I shouldn't have to pay part of my rent because I can't drive my landlord's car.

Ah, so you don't believe that you REALLY own land that you own. You believe in the left-wing idea that a debt is owed to society as a whole for somehow creating the environment you're living in. In your analogy, the REAL owner of the land (in your words, landlord) is the government, and you're just renting.

Also, what said. You already pay sales tax, income tax and trade tax for the things you mentioned. Property tax is different.

>I can't drive my landlord's car.

What an asshole, Dave let's me drive his car all the time.

That's just proof positive that the system is complete bullwhip. The reasons for having taxes are not really true, toilets, maintenance of power lines, road repair are MINIMAL, in that the average person probably needs to use $100 a year in those services. The system is bloated. For a 800K house, you need to pay $5,500 in the norm. Are they building a new room in your house every year or something?

I personally know someone who lives off the grid with his family.
Hunts/grows his own food. Has a hawk that kills rabbits for him too. Home schools his kids.
Stress-free life.

I wish I could do that shit. All Americans should be able to be that self sufficient.

It is, user.

You are literaly renting the land from the govt. At a low cost, sure, but you're renting.

It's not yours.

The trick is to move far enough north that the government loses money when trying to collect any money from you.

this is actually a good idea

I love to talk shit about the Fed & Yellen, but they actually do a good job of assessing how malnourished their peasants are:

washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/05/25/the-shocking-number-of-americans-who-cant-cover-a-400-expense/

It is. And as long as there's a government you don't own land. You just lease it.

>you're paying for the privilege to live here

fucking bullshit garbage

Choke on a dick, you lily-fingered faggot.
It's soft people like you whole only skim across the surface of life, never tasting its depths.
Live in your safe middleclass cage forever and bicker with your loved ones about gadgets and entertainment programming.
What an insufferable caprophagious bore you are.
KYS.

Make some small corner of your house a synagogue.

kek, Sup Forums still falls for the ruralfag meme every time. This is why cities are expensive as fuck to live in, because they are in desirable locations and provide you access to way more services than some cletus living in bumfuk, nowhere. if you're not a poorfag or a farmerfag, you should be living in a city, ANY city or you're wasting all your shekels for services that mostly benefit cityfags like me.

The only government body that really makes money off of me is my town and I don't mind that because we are small enough that we all truly benefit from it. Its basically just us putting money aside so we can maintain power and water.

High property taxes are a good thing, as they keep land and house prices down.

Otherwise you get gooks pouring in, sitting on and hording property.
Just look at Canada.

fuckoff nigger

You all are invited to Tuvalu

>I called my water utility to let them know, and there appeared a work crew of 9 guys, some heavy equipment, and a dump truck.

how many years after your phone call did anyone show up, liar?

Nigger, I have legit not used any of those for times.
So have literally billions of other people.
Die quick, you unadventerous eater.

reveal your pooinloo/spic flag now user.

>squat on land forever
>refuse all offers to sell
>land remains stagnant and useless

Welcome to reality! Property taxes, insurance, and a ton of other nit picking expenses force us to have to plan for some form of income stream for the long haul. As others mention, some services are provided like roads, drainage, etc but not nearly up to par with the amount the govt takes in. Only silver lining is that property taxes in an odd way make it possible to actually buy land. Otherwise we'd have Google-like companies buy large masses of land and hang onto it, selling small bits as the prices rose to the level desired.

>About 81 percent of people making more than $100,000 a year reported they would be able to cover the bill

>make $100,000 a year or more

>so little fucking self control they can't help but spend all of their fucking $10,000 paycheck a month

this is why the world is shit, fucking braindead morons who think as long as a paycheck is coming in the future it's fine to spend all of their fucking livelihood on shiny gadgets and restaurants

I believe in the reality that exists around me, yes.

There is no functional difference between property taxes and land rents. Sure, you bought a lease, but that's all you bought. If you stop paying rent, you get evicted. You can be kicked out at any time if the landlord needs to make space for renovations. If you die without giving your lease to someone else, it goes back to the landlord for auction.

There's lots of nice rules that govern the landlord-tenant relationship, but ultimately those rules are enforced by the landlord anyway. You are allowed to own land, it isn't an inherent right.

Might makes right. The government owns this land because it either killed the people who owned it before, bought it from another government that killed the people who owned it before, or had no owner and was up for grabs. It is allowed to own this land because, if anyone tries to take it, they're fucking dead.

You are allowed to rent the land and are given certain privileges because we, as a group, could at any time rise up and attack the government. Our might also makes right.

I'm not saying that taxes are JUSTIFIED, I'm just describing the relationship. And taxes are practically rents.

>if someone is doing something with their land I don't find agreeable I have the right to seize it from them

More and higher paying jobs are the main reason its more in demand to live in cities.

We ARE here, you microcephalic.
There is no other HERE than the people, and the people incidentally sometimes put on the pretense of "State" to strut around, make money, and boss people around.
Yeah, fuck those people.
Don't need 'em.
Never did.
Never will.

>buy some gold forever
>refuse all offers to sell
>gold remains stagnant and useless

This statement is less retarded

property taxes are the absolute worst form of taxes.

communism=goverment owns everything.

Sounds comfy, honestly.
My skin is warn out from bathing.
I want to be hungry in a dark place again.
That's when you know what it REALLY means to be a human.

then youll simply be taxed even more when you buy a expensive ass appartment. FUck property taxes

>waaaah, you have something that I want, so you HAVE to give it to me

Fucking socialist.

#roasted

But it is. The welfare state continuously asserts that money is no longer a thing of scarcity. It's printed, after all. If you run out of it, just borrow some more. If you can't borrow, beg Uncle Sam for assistance.

Money will not be remembered as a thing of scarcity until the welfare programs go belly-up.

Before FDR's alphabet soup, the vast majority of workers expected seasonal unemployment and tried to structure their lives so that

A) Savings from employed months covered unemployed months

or

B) Roommates/friends/family members who also suffered from seasonal unemployment would be bringing income into the household during the bad times and that they would return the favor when their respective unemployed months came

It's shocking for most people today to realize that we actually took care of each other when we had something closer to freedom

>>effectively forced to get a job to continue owning your own land
You should have purchased apartments or an apartment building so you could rent it to others and make money.

Housing prices are waaaay higher in Canada, you can't buy a house bigger than a boxcart here unless you pay at least 600K (not talking about the cardboard new houses that you commute 90 minutes on the highway to get from the city though). Suburbs and city. Just go on realtor.ca and see.

You write like you are in high school.
Rent the fuck from who?
Who waltzed in and made who king again.
You must live in a city, otherwise you would know how much wide-open space there really is.
All these faggy pencil-pushers bureaucratizing from across the country do nothing but fill their pockets at the expense of the common man just trying to get by in the name of "law and order."
I don't know why, but your rhetoric is super annoying.
It's like listening to public radio when it gets really preachy and disconnected from reality.

...

That's the most retarded analogy I've ever read on here. Only idiots and leftists compare situations to make a point because they can't argue the finer points of an idea.

>>There is no functional difference between property taxes and land rents.

except the fact that you had to pay a person who owned the land for the land

If government is giving out plots of land for free and making you pay taxes on them then it would be a different story

The government owns every piece of land and refuses to sell it. They'll only let you "rent" it. You can't "own" property, only the government can.

Or inheritence tax... taxing the money fucking twice.

In the 1700's you would be publicly hanged for misrepresenting the Law so badly. In 2017 you just get called a fag on the internet. My how the times have changed.

Is your uncle romantic?
You can tell us.

I've lived in both. Having easy access to Taco Bell isn't worth all the niggers. I'm moving back to the country as soon as I find the right house.

I wish most people were like white americans

>me and my spawn should be able to live here forever because i was there first

I don't disagree with your opinion as long as you take action to defend your claim

They take your land for not paying your taxes, I am a farmer I know land taxes when you make a million you pay around 50 000 in taxes excluding water and electricty plus a luxary tax. So you make 900 000$

This nails it. Rural life with a good, stable job is nice. Rural unemployment is hellish.

We should also all take a moment to have some appreciation for South Africa bros who got born into the most crazy nog danger situation possible for white people.

I'm considering moving to Cape Town, convince me otherwise

There are ways to do this without living in a cabin hiding from the world.

You will be alone in the woods your whole life, i don't want that desu.

It is theft / extortion.

A minarchist society would work way better. There would be no property or income taxes on individuals, just low corporate tax (

>me and my spawn have the INALIENABLE RIGHT to live here AS LONG AS WE WANT TO because we made a consensual trade agreement with the previous owner of the land to transfer ownership to us*

FTFY

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Okay fine, but if you think laws last forever then you're a moron, so my only point was that if you feel that way you should have an armed bunker or something. Again, not disagreeing with the merits of a solid bunker.

>tfw you can not buy legal pistole

Your fatal flaw in reasoning is that it is the law which grants the owner the right of ownership, and not innate natural morality.

Fun fact, people in the Faroe Islands do not pay any property tax. Their state get their money through the income tax only.

Get a Vepr-12. They're very nice shotguns and will remove two or four legged intruders.

what bird is that?

>High property taxes are a good thing
best goy right here

Which would you rather have protecting you when these guys come to slap your homesteads ass - the military or innate morality?

>still have to pay taxes on it forever or the government takes your land

that makes absolutely no sense to me and is the reason why many children of parents who will properties to them end up selling them and moving into rent or smaller place because are unable to pay land/property/luxury taxes.

>still have to pay taxes on it forever or the government takes your land
The land is held in fee simple, which is basically feudalism. We are all good goys.

Me and my spawn armed with AR-15s