I have 50k USD saved up in a US money market account. How can I best secure my wealth against inflation? I want to buy gold but I want to hear your thoughts first. Disregard my flag.
I have 50k USD saved up in a US money market account. How can I best secure my wealth against inflation...
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China's New Gold-Backed Oil Futures Contract Cuts Out U.S. Dollar
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If China drops petrodollar then USD is fucked
Buy platinum
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You will need to buy meme coins from the degenerate neets on /biz/. It's the only way you'll get your lambo
Why platinum specifically and what are my options in terms of risk vs reward in various investment vehicles and is there a resource you know I can study to find out more?
Buy gold, it will increase exponentially very soon.
Got to a casino and put it all on black
Bitcoin
I think silver, aluminum and copper all have more potential. Gold is over valued.
What are your thoughts on the Chinese Yuan developments related to Gold?
10k into platinum
10k into silver
10k into aluminum
10k into gold
10k into bitcoin
Am I thinking clearly?
this heeb is okay
ETH+LTC
All these altcoins seem scammy as fuck
you should definitely into gold, consider putting 10k into btc and or ethereum
btc has exploded once again which was enough for me to buy a new-ish car
I would swap out 10k aluminum for 10k oil (oil prices are currently suppressed, buy right fucking now and you will double your money in a few years minimum), and the 10k Bitcoin with 10k Monero.
Full disclosure, I have a small stake in Monero but I'm not shilling.
Avoid all of the retards telling you to diversify into stocks, bonds, etc. People are going to be fucking raped. The Federal Reserve has had interest rates at essentially zero for like a decade now, we're going to have another collapse, this one miles bigger than the last.
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I have $6800 in silver, $1200 in gold, $500 in Monero, and $500 in a shitcoin that tanked.
>10k into platinum
>10k into silver
>10k into aluminum
>10k into gold
>10k into bitcoin
What's the deal with other precious metals such as palladium and if I had to double up one of those to 20k which one would I remove? Oil? Gold?
I think you need to start investing in arms companies.
Give it to George Soros. Cut out the middleman.
Is there an ETF for arms companies?
bricks and mortar
If you're just trying to preserve wealth against inflation, I'd probably do 50% TIPS and 50% Gold. But why just preserve wealth? Grow it.
$ITA is probably the most popular.
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That's because they are. You have the right idea, buy precious metals. Do your research on rate projection and decide accordingly.
20K silver
20K XIV after the crash
10K crypto
Isn't this thread a bant thread?
Idk why people here keep suggesting crypto, this is obviously a serious thread
Well I'm working for a high paying startup and I can see that there is a huge amount of risk involved in any particular investment. I'd like to grow it as well which is why I like user's last recommendation of purchasing oil.
What location is safest to buy precious metals if China starts a war with the US? Or any other war for that matter?
I am biased towards Singapore and Switzerland
There will soon be a correction - not a collapse - of the stock market. After that, it will boom for the next few years as Europe and then Japan go to shit.
50k is fuck all.
Blow and hoes is your best option.
And it's a better return than tulipcoin.
But if you must....
Half in gold bullion and the other half in high value rare coins. Numismatics could also provide you with a decent hobby as you grow older and most of the dealers are growing decrepit and dying, without being replaced. So it couls also double as a potentially profitable skill set. The Netherlands has an illustrious numismatic history. You could help preserve that cultural heritage.
This, or art.
Art only appreciates in value ;)
>What's the deal with other precious metals such as palladium and if I had to double up one of those to 20k which one would I remove? Oil? Gold?
I would dump platinum and double up on silver. Most of the other precious metals aren't traditional stores of wealth and you aren't going to see a mass exodus away from stocks/bonds into, say, palladium that would cause the price to explode.
If you look at the historical ratios of gold to silver prices, silver is wildly undervalued relative to gold. Furthermore, silver is the only commodity not to surpass it's 1980 price. One of the big reasons for this is the low interest rates we've had for the last 30 years + the fact the paper market for silver creates non-existent supply that tanks the price. We're currently in a unique buying opportunity if you buy physical gold/silver and then wait for a "silver squeeze" when they're forced to cover their paper contracts and the price absolutely skyrockets as they have to buy that from physical holders (think $200 an ounce silver and $5000 an ounce gold).
As a USD holder how can I protect myself against the negative effects of this outcome or potentially even profit from it?
What do you estimate is a typical time frame for decent ROI on precious metal purchases today
nope, its a /biz/ tread
I have little to do with the Netherlands as I am only visiting from the United States
As others pointed out gold is your go to commodity for security
When the market takes major hits youll notice gold ETFs go up
The opposite is true as well though, when the market is doing amazing gold doesnt see the same volume, but it does remain a solid investment for financial security
Just my two coppers
invest in bitcoin !!!
also if people now say MUUUUH but if the interwebs go down they are lost are idiots !!!
if internets goes down poof go the banks to!!!
so invest in bitcoin cause u can carry them on usb stick.... gold is heavy and even idiots recognize gold...
also bitcoin is speculated to go way above 500k a pop so invest while the prices are low
Invest in Safe Havens:
- US Treasuries
- Swiss Francs
- Japanese Yen
- Gold
You will sleep well at night
t. investment banking jew
500k USD per BTC? In what time frame? 1000 years?
Invest in citrus right this second on the commodities market. Frozen orange juice. Florida will lose the whole fucking crop.
Shalom can you explain how US treasuries and Swiss fiat are at all a "safe haven?"
What broker do you recommend?
Then ditto for U.S. coins. Or whatever you want to collect.
Gold is an insurance policy right now, hence the crazy premium. It is not an investment. If you want that, then start a business.
>500k USD per BTC? In what time frame? 1000 years?
the moment they outlaw cash your a filthy rich man if u invested early enough !
wanna bet ? this chart is only for 2 years !!!
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My father made $300k in one week in the late 80s doing this but it was a CA flood that ruined millions in walnuts haha.
Commodities is where you wanna be in disaster times. You will need to act quickly and educate yourself RIGHT NOW
The most Jewey one you can find.
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IDK seems like a fucking bubble ready to pop down to 2k
Except you can't long oil short of buying a storage tank. Oil futures on the NYMEX go out 10 years, good luck dealing with the volatility. You could buy $0.01 2027 calls, but have fun being absolutely assfucked by theta and rho
Not to mention energy is a losing spiel for the next hundred years; why else do you think Saudi Aramco is trying to go public on the NYSE?
>trading places
and fiat money and basically every thin you can buy at the stock market isnt ?
YES!!!
Cash will never be allowed. The CIA needs it for the drug trade. Politicians need it for hookers. Will never happen.
Phone post..
Allowed should have read outlawed.
All the OJ dubbs confirmed for great riches
dude i dont care what ur doing with ur money frankly all i want is giving a fellow user a tip!!!
Aren't citrus commodities already at their peak with news of the hurricane prompting purchases last week?
than u have no idea about bitcoin and the banking system m80
that amount of money shouldn't be static.
speak to a financial advisor.
it should be invested, into low-risk funds or property. That only will it be protected from inflation but it will generate more money.
If you're some sort of tin foil hat weirdo, then sure, buy gold.
>What do you estimate is a typical time frame for decent ROI on precious metal purchases today
I would say within 5 years. When it hits the prices will skyrocket though. Buy now when no one fucking wants gold or silver, don't try and chase rising prices after it's too late when silver goes to $50-75 an ounce.
Also bitcoin is risky and ethereum has no value as it's had multiple security problems that have literally resulted in 150 million dollar loses. Ethereum has a long term value of zero once the bubble pops.
Have you considered getting a rental property? 50k won't cover the entire cost but you can find some good deals around. Other than property, I'd go for crypto and some precious metals. Mostly crypto though.
US Americans and Nazis confiscated gold cause they made it illegal to own, so if you think you're safe when shit hits the fan, think again.
>Mostly crypto though.
AMEN!!!!
Which is why I suggested purchasing on the Singaporean or Swiss market
LURK HERE !!!
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Invest half in gold and half equally among the top two most stable, and one now-fastest-growing, cryptocurrency
A few index funds can get 8%+ a year on a longer time frame
Vanguard Global Emerging Markets
Vanguard US or Global Small Cap
UK FTSE 250
forget trying to be clever with cryptos or precious metals or trying to time the market, just be invested
I'd be careful in purchasing oil. Electric cars are on their way in, its only a matter of time before they break through and the technology becomes cheaper than petrol cars.
Solar and wind energy is also becoming much cheaper and more efficient, so there are real threats to the oil market.
>Singaporean or Swiss market
Singapore is too geographically vulnerable.
Switzerland is a different story.
You could buy government securities which will always pay indifferent of regime change.
this
with 50k you could get a great to lease mortgage on, for example, a flat in amsterdam. rent it out. rent pays the mortgage and then some. once the mortgage is paid off you own the property, and it's probably worth 3-4x what you paid for it.
Property is the easiest way to make money.
You really went down the crypto rabbit hole.
What's a typical ROI on real estate?
I repeat, are citrus commodities already at their peak and if people have been monitoring them for over a week now, why not?
Gold does not pay dividends
50k is not fuck all, it's a life-enhancing amount of money over 30+ years and OP is free to add more
Diamonds.
I am 27
>What's a typical ROI on real estate?
just look at how much house prices have increased in your area in the last 5 years.
you are really barking up the wrong tree with gold and oil. 50k isn't enough for that sort of thing.
Imagine what you would have if you had instead stored your wealth as Bitcoin.
I am led to believe synthetic diamonds are going to absolutely destroy the diamond market
From what I gather commodities by their nature do not generate profit or divided unlike stocks of profitable companies. They are heavily dependent on demand, production, capacity utilization and economic cycle. 1970s commodity boom became a 30 year bust until China started building infrastructure. Now China is near its credit limits, so investing in commodities is very risky.
If your only concern is inflation but TIPs. It's basically government backed inflation immunity.
There are always booms and busts
If you are worried about 'buying high', Dollar Cost Average your 50k over a few years into the stock market
Personally I would just lump sum into a Global index tracker or if you feel the USA is too expensive, Vanguard Asia Pacific excl Japan
>If China drops petrodollar then USD is fucked
Let's hear why.
Buy physical faggot, some jew paper that says you own something in Schlomo's safe doesn't mean you do. It's only yours when you can hold it, then buy a gun to protect it.
>You really went down the crypto rabbit hole.
well duh!!!
do yourself a favor before u do anything with the money read and study a bit of bitcoin and the cryptos... than sleep over it and make ur decision
>50k is fuck all
t. europoor who gets his jollies from implying he has money on tunesian sand castle forums
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>In 3 years we all are going to use electric cars
Thank me later
Sure
>US Treasuries and USD
$737B annual defense budget, higher than next 20 nations, plus 10,000+ nukes. Not to mention world reserve currency (inb4 muh SDRs), biggest economy, etc. If the world goes to shit the USA can isolate itself and still produce things (remember WW2?)
>Yen
Japan is fucked for a long, long time due to its deflationary (money becomes MORE valuable) debt cycle lingering from the property bubble of the 80s and the crash. Plus, Japs would all collectively sepuku themselves before ever defaulting on their admittedly huge debt (200%+ GDP)
>Swiss Francs
Swiss isn't really fiat, it's more Austrian than fiat.
Swiss M3 money supply: 1T
Swiss Forex Reserves: 720B USD
Swiss GDP: $600B
Swiss Debt: 40%
Also every citizen has a bunker, is a trained soldier with automatic weapons in the home, and the country is surrounded by mountains. There's a reason Hitler didn't invade. Switzerland, despite being a wealthy economy, is still an export oriented economy ($200B or 33% of GDP).
Fun fact: Did you know why Swiss watches became so prolific? Because in WW2, all major countries in the war directed their watch industries (mechanical at the time) to make timers for ordanance. Since the Swiss were neutral, they were free to capture all domestic market share for years.
Also Rothschilds.
>Gold
This goes without saying
Invest in crypto coins.
I'd avoid Swiss debt
SNB overnight is -0.75% and last year Swiss bonds were negative yielding on the entire yield curve, out to 50 years (1000 francs invested today would be 850 in 50 years).
Invest the money in growing weed and then sell the weed for bit coins on the dark web.
Two affiliated companies own 97% of the diamond mines. Never, ever invest in diamonds. There's a hand on that hose.
ROI on residential is 1% of purchase price should equal 1 months rent.
If it's below 1% it's not really attractive.
If it's .5% don't touch it.
Swiss real estate would be a good investment, especially rental if you can access the market
In Geneva a 1 bedroom goes for 1M francs, and you can get a mortgage for 0.5%. Rents are sky high in Geneva where vacancies are sub 1%, rental availability is way tighter than NYC and you are dealing with wealthy workers so minimal headaches
Graphene batteries are on the horizon, which are better in every way and made of plain carbon.
gold inflates
bitcoin is deflationary and crypto will be the staple of the new economy after capital flight has taken place and wealth is shift from this system into the next
adopt or die, cryptocurrency is literally the best thing for the white race right now.
I am slightly older than you. I just split my money evenly across these and I am mot intending to begin drawdown for at least 15 years, I don't stress about it, the stock market will always be a rollercoaster
US total market
UK mid cap
Global emerging markets
Asia excluding Japan
To be honest you can't go wrong with just the US S&P 500. Gold is risky, gold is speculative and on a long time frame stocks will beat gold. Maybe be 10% in a gold miner ETF if you want but I would stay away.
Same with cryptos, don't bet the farm, always be mostly invested in stocks, via super cheap index funds from the likes of Vanguard and Blackrock.
Please don't be pressured into gold or silver or a particular crypto because of something you read on Sup Forums, buy a bit if you want but use your brain and be mostly invested in the productive economy. The internet is full of doommongers who will tell you not to buy stocks which is suicidal in the long term.
Not ones with legitimate purposes.
LTC's aim is to be lightweight and easy to spend.
In fact the lack of support for QR codes on most of the sites mean you need to manually type in long text strings between your phone and your computer making it a pain. Also my only experience with it had me waiting days for a transaction to clear. Also easy spending money needs to be bad money. That its it needs inflation or people won't spend it unless they must. I wonder who LTC is for.
Easiest to use/spend/get in/out of = BTC currently.
Namecoin suffers from the fact that nobody gives a shit. More people use .onion than can browse .bit addresses.
Zerocoins are borderline illegal. Someone needs to set up some .onion BTC/ZCoin exchanges... Or... they could just set up their own BTC laundry and cut out the Zerocoin re-minting fee. Also the price of re-minting Zerocoins will increase as Zerocoin gains value defeating its purpose. Sure you can mint as many as you want , but then you potentially have a record in the bulk reminter laundry service's hands of whose coins were exchanged for reminted coins ( and this service might be illegal since it does the reminting operation ).
ZCash has all those problems as well as you can't know if it is broken and people have been minting erroneous coins. Inferior to ZCoin, their price has been inflated by hyjacking all inquiries into Zerocoin to point to their site.
ETH has a lot of buzz about non-monetary uses. Don't understand it b/c have not looked deeply into it - but I see alot of buzz and not so much other uses implemented. Probably Gresham's Law (Bad money drives out good) mitigates against using ETH for many online transactions - ETH's raison d'etre.
BTC is online gold that can be laundered on .onion sites and accepted and spent anonymously if you use tor and a laundry service ( better to run your own ) and know what you are doing.
For that money you can buy 10 bitcoins. Your best bet against inflation.
Lithium is shit.
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