Why are you against free migration, Sup Forums? According to economists, open borders would double the world's real GDP

Why are you against free migration, Sup Forums? According to economists, open borders would double the world's real GDP.

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What ((economist)))

More money than we already have now would just make us even more degenerate. The problems are spiritual.

it's not like the middle class is going to see any of that wealth, that's not the way the systems been designed, a strong middle class isn't part of the plan of the master controllers. anything they push for is something that will hurt us or they wouldn't be pushing it.

also, not having borders leads to world government. a centralized control system for all humanity would be an upgrade for the powers that be, they wouldn't have to keep pretending all these fake democracies are real. they want this

Good shill, globalist.
saged

According to economists, Keynesianism is good thing. Yes... trust them.
Third world people would vote for more and more government, which would result in a worse economy in the long run.

Keynesianism isn't taught in many PhD programs anymore, dude.

>Third world people would vote for more and more government,

As opposed to native-born Americans or Europeans. Oh, wait.

There would be no Domestic in GDP moron.

Yes goy... i-i mean guys, you should embrace open borders. Diversity is your strength!

I don't give a shit about GDP

You can't spend all that extra money before the immigrants rob you.

ASIA FOR THE ASIANS, AFRICA FOR THE AFRICANS, WHITE COUNTRIES FOR EVERYBODY!

Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.

The Netherlands and Belgium are just as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.

Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.

What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?

How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?

And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to this?

But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.

They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.

Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

thats kind of his point.. we already have poor people voting for more and more government while the extremely rich benefit from this so they also vote for more and more government. adding in more people period is bad. we are disagreeing with ourselves about what being American means and you want to add more people that have little to no clue?

Foreigners are generally more libertarian than native-born Americans. It makes no difference anyway since foreigners don't tend to vote and both parties are big government parties.

Immigrants do vote for the left at a higher rate than Americans(except for blacks), what's your point?

It is still mainstream in the world of economics today.

>Muh money over all
Fucking jew

I assume you mean vote for the Democratic party? Maybe. But both GOP and Democrats are big government authoritarian parties so it makes no difference.

You don't know the current condition of economics PhD programs today.

because i hate niggers, mudskins, faggots and just about everything else exept normal white peoples

The fuck is that message associated with that flag. Thread saged

False.
They identify themselves as Libertarians, but they don't know what that means.
pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/08/25/in-search-of-libertarians/
In the end, about 15% of the american population is Libertarian, and only 11% of Hispanics are.

They love socialism and hate capitalism: people-press.org/2011/12/28/little-change-in-publics-response-to-capitalism-socialism/

They want a bigger state:
pewhispanic.org/files/2012/04/PHC-Hispanic-Identity.pdf

See

Self-identification is a bad way to measure the prevalence of libertarianism in a population considering most Americans who identify as libertarian are just Republican authoritarian statists.

Fuck, i meant

That was my point. Hispanics do self-entitle themselves as Libertarians, but they are not.

White libertarians aren't libertarians either.

>t economists.
According to economists,subprime loans were the fucking new age of lending.
"free migration" as you call it is just a buzzword for white holocaust.
In the short term, it ruins western societies with gibs.
On the long term, it literally makes them Africa.
So no more gibs.

And i don't need to know. Most countries still practice Keynesian economics.
You are confusing "Keynesianism is the mainstream economy today" with "People seeking their PHDs are learning Keynesianism", but that's just because you are stupid.

You can tell a person is uneducated when he brings up Keynesianism on a topic in which Keynesianism isn't even related.

READ. THE. FUCKING. RESEARCH.
White americans lean Libertarian more often than Hispanics, and that's by polling their beliefs.
You are not even worth debating. Why would you respond me without reading the research? That's because you are emotionally tied to your opinion and you won't change it no mater what.

Not an argument.

Bullshit. no borders = no national sovereignty = banks and corporations in complete control of the world. Yeah profits would be rolling in while the rest of us are fucking slaves.

saged.

more people mean more loans. thats all the economists and jews are thinking of. It dose not work. its a nice idea but when you look at how delicate society is. I would not advise you try to reinvent the wheel.

You said "According to economists, Keynesianism is good thing."

Which is obviously false, considering hardly any PhD programs teach Keynesianism anymore. The trend these days is grounding macroeconomic theory in neoclassical microeconomic foundations. For example, real business cycle theory is basically the classical model plus the assumption of sudden exogenous technology shocks.

Fuck off Ahmed

This is a topic of labor economics. Keynesianism has no relevance in labor economics or international economics.

>look mum, I posted this thread again
This has to be a bot.

Radical Islam. That's why.

>"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."

right.. even if it did double GDP (which it won't),
it would kill the girl in the pic
I care more about her than doubling GDP

blood is thicker than shekels

...

sage

See Even the lowest estimate is a gain of 67% of world GDP.

Money isn't everything. Also, some of the migrants are very, very hostile to their host countries. Sometimes murderously so.

Because "open borders" would double the world's real GDP at the expense of the U.S. poor and middle class, and we don't give a shit about overpopulation in third world countries. We've been spending billions to ship safe sex pamphlets and free condoms to these places for thirty years now, but they're too busy fucking and having kids to read the damn pamphlets or use the damn condoms.
N-O-T
O-U-R
P-R-O-B-L-E-M

Then give me your money libtard and you'll be as spiritual as can be!

You posted this thread yesterday.
Because who knows how many innocent white men, women and children would die from the migrants acting like themselves

>double the world's real GDP.
Based on fucking what? The false believe that decent civilized folk will move to 3rd world shit holes to improve them? Absolutely incorrect, the exact opposite will happen. Economists are fucking stupid and live in a fantasy world.

archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/27128735/
try 3+ years with just this image alone

youtube.com/watch?v=cllFK-hv3MA

> Imaginary

Better let these people know the whole problem was imaginary.

Neoliberalism has been increasing GDP and stagnating wages for decades. Nobody is interested in making the 0.1% richer in exchange for completely quality of life for everyone else.

Who cares? Democrats and Republicans are both awful parties. You're just revealing that you're another partisan hack.

>would double the world's real GDP

All of which will be spent on supporting gibs for libs. It would also ensure democrat party rule for all time. No thanks.

No, this is not what economists believe. As usual, people like you never bother to understand the model.

thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/11/23/race-and-the-alt-right/

Poll results like this don't tell you anything. White people answer poll questions in such away in the abstract, but if you go thru a list and ask them what they want to cut, they want to keep everything. White people, after all, are the ones who created Social Security, Medicare and voted to make the military as large as it is today. Those are the three largest components of federal spending.

So explain to me why white people have never voted for the Libertarian candidate or someone like Ron Paul? Each election, they vote for authoritarians like Donald Trump.

Cool, well you're a perfect model of an absolute retard.

>according to economists worshiping the current model like an eternal ideal

They first need to understand that overpopulation is bad for them. Nigeria is doing well compared to other African states, but the rest of the continent is chimp-tier. Really, like a comparison of a well-evolved Silverback versus those small screeching little shits.

Probably because Libertarians are fucking stupid and live in a fantasy world.

because almost nobody is truly a libertarian
but of the tiny slice that is, 90% are young white males

i couldnt care less. suck a dick you massive nigger

Right, the overwhelming majority of white people, so it doesn't make any difference what the racial constitution of the country is, from a libertarian point of view.

*the overwhelming majority of white people aren't libertarian

You are confusing things here.
My point was not to prove that whites are 100% individualist and libertarians, but tht they are far more so than other racial groups.

Race and culture do influence on politics.

False
Nonwhites always vote more socialist than whites
Women always vote more socialist than men
Identity politics have huge consequences for people with more libertarian ideals

No, white people in America generally vote more Republican authoritarian. Non-whites and women vote more Democratic authoritarian. There's a dime's worth of difference between each side.

open borders means turning over all your rights to businesses.

all the money would go to the few business leaders.

it's already what we are transitioning towards.

Chew you havisfaction a singlelicious satisfact to snack that up?

this but both sides are corporatist authoritarian. business controls the government.

>open borders would double the world's real GDP.
Some meaningless number goes up. Great.
GDP has gone up a lot since the 50s, but how's home ownership and debt looking? How's the family life looking? Traditions and values?

GDP isn't everything.

Who captures that increase in GDP? A small number of elite capitalist cronies.

Because it's one way migration.
Californians get arrested if they stay in Mexico past their visa expiration date yet a Mexican can stay in almost any US city and have protected rights and benefits.

pure bullshit & globalist propaganda


also there will be no GDP if the lack of borders causes a global tyranny which eventually implodes on itself, or a homogenization of the world's ethnicities into one global mono-ethnicity which is then wiped out by a viral epidemic aided by lack of biodiversity

1. Labor who immigrate from poor countries receive higher wages
2. Labor that stays in poor country receive higher wages
3. Capital owners in rich countries (this includes many Americans because most of us own 401k's and such) receive higher "rental rates"
4. Labor in rich countries tend to have different sets of skills than immigrant labor. If domestic labor and foreign labor generally are complements in production, then domestic labor overall receive higher wages.

Not an argument.

>global tyranny
The west will continue push for open everything while China holds on to their strict immigration laws, lack of respect for human rights and fierce nationalism. Now they're surpassing the us, later they'll probably be dominating us.

This is true. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if China was directly involved with sabotaging the West with the open borders retardation.

propaganda is not an argument

my arguments about global tyranny & viral epidemics caused by lack of biodiversity still stand, you've failed to counter them

>open borders would double the world's real GDP
I don't care it doubles if I don't get a share of wealth.

In fact, it might indeed double, but just to end up I'm the pockets of few sharks and world leaders of the elite

>>muh gdp
there's more to life than mass production

>peer reviewed academic papers are propaganda

Mass production is why your life is as pleasant as it is, dude.

absolutely, tons of peer reviewed papers are propaganda
the state of universities in the world right now is absymal

and as I said before, a planet without humans will have no GDP, and that's exactly what no borders will do (in one or more of several possible ways)

Try to counter the argument

>this retarded thread again

you've already been BTFO quit spamming this bullshit here

my life isn't pleasant. I'm surrounded by "diversity". less boreders = more brown/blacks into happy white countries. Sweden was happy with their tiny gdp. Same with france. But those countries are getting blacked. We don't need more people, to create more shit. What for? Mass immigration is about creating debt for the creditors, not quality of life.

>A thousand (((economists))) agree
Propaganda
information, especially of a -BIASED- or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view.

Yes, propaganda, you fucking brainlet.

The women coming in won't let me fuck them. That's enough reason. We're just importing hot tight sluts for the top 7% chads.

You're on Sup Forums instead of toiling on a farm for subsistence. That seems relatively pleasant to me.

we already have farmers toiling. we. dont. need. more. cheap. labor.

>You're on Sup Forums instead of toiling on a farm for subsistence. That seems relatively pleasant to me.

Thanks to white people for inventing all the technology, WITHOUT getting rid of their borders

Also, many people would happily grow their own food and live a simple life, having regular sex with a hot healthy wife and raising a big loving family

sounds like heaven compared to using this place as a depression outlet and nervously contemplating the inevitable looming wars & cultural conflicts that are coming thanks to idiotic globalist policies like the ones you're spewing

threadly reminder that these concepts are a product of jewish alienation from blood and soil

reading through your former posts, you don't see the value to a white ethnostate. Have you lived with diversity?
No matter the system, authoritarian, socialist, ancap, whatever, it will work fine if the population is just whites. multiculti is the death of nations. Open borders accelerates this process and leaves the super rich jews on top, while shitposters like you and me live with the shit.

>Also, many people would happily grow their own food and live a simple life

Then why don't people live in such a way?

I don't give one iota of a god damn fucking gnarly rotten shit about the GDP. A proper GDP is simply put to waste by neo-con pukes waging jew wars and shitlib faggots turning over their money to niggers in africa

My co-hort in grad school is mostly non-white and foreign-born. I live in a mostly non-white city. I don't see the issue with diversity.

You're a psychopath.

It has NOTHING to do with diversity, you idiot. It's about mass control.