Really makes you think

Really makes you think...

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Compare the deathcount of capitalist and socialist dictators

That wasn't REAL capitalism

capitalist fascist dictators run countries better than socialists

>70's Iran was bad.

here you go

sure

Good idea

Stalin wasn't a capitalist

>Khmer Rouge (not communist)
jesus you guys need a new meme graphic division

>Hurricane Katrina
Stopped reading there.

>Communism had nothing to do with WW2

jacobinmag.com/2015/04/khmer-rouge-cambodian-genocide-united-states/

Pinochet saved his country from communists, then retired and gave the government back to the people. Like Cincinnatus. Pinochet was so loved by his people that they still celebrate him to this day, despite all the propaganda against him. All you have to do is look at starving Venezuela to see that Pinochet was completely right about everything.

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Most of this isn't even because of Capitalism

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The Shah brutally tortured opponents using methods like:
sleep deprivation
extensive solitary confinement
nail extractions
electric shocks into the rectum
acid dropped into the nostrils
and much more

Stalin's not up there.

Press F to spit on grave

Sure they can,but a brutal capitalist dictator is still better than a commie one.

>look at starving Venezuela
aljazeera.com/programmes/upfront/2017/06/don-blame-socialism-venezuela-woes-170617080851514.html

youtube.com/watch?v=le86H7Xfjrc

Thanks user i never knew until now that hurricane katrina was a capitalist dictator you stupid fucking faggot

Cappies BTFO

>Indonesian Anti-Communist Purges
Why is this in here? Commies aren't people

>Cigarettes
Oh c'mon now.

>Muh hoarded grainz
You commie scum never fail to amuse me.

>expecting anyone to know the gay /leftypol/ nobody

>Khmer rouge
>capitalist

You need a helicopter ride, you fucking kike

Unlike Bush’s war on terror in which US troops are fighting abroad, Pinochet was confronted with an indigenous terrorist movement. Chilean terrorists engaged in assassinations and bombings of public infrastructure. Pinochet was able to put down real terrorist movements with less damage to Chile’s civil liberties than Bush’s trumped-up "war on terror" has caused to America’s.

According to the Rettig Commission, Chile’s struggle with terrorism resulted in 2300 (both sides) dead and missing. Pinochet’s detainees number less than Bush’s, and the torture used against Chilean terrorist suspects was perhaps less draconian than that used by the United States against suspected Muslim terrorists. The Bush regime is responsible for many multiples of the deaths for which the Pinochet regime was responsible. Yet, Pinochet is the demonized figure.

The propaganda against Pinochet has fantastic elements, such as "eyewitness" accounts of bodies of slain innocents thrown overboard from navy ships on the Mapocho river that runs through Santiago. Anyone who has seen the "river" knows it is not navigable.

The international left loved Salvador Allende’s socialist rhetoric and his policies against "the rich," policies that destroyed Chile’s economy and led to public agitation for his overthrow. The left hates Pinochet for overthrowing Allende and for turning Chile’s economy over to economists educated at Harvard and the University of Chicago, who privatized Chile’s social security system and put in place the institutional basis for Chile’s successful market economy. These are the real reasons for Pinochet’s demonization.

The international left cannot make up its mind whether Allende was overthrown by Pinochet or by the CIA. In some accounts the reason to hate Pinochet is that he is the puppet of capitalist Amerika. Why then demonize the puppet instead of the puppet-master?"

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In truth, Allende overthrew himself. He disregarded the constitution, permitted private property to be seized by communist organizations, tolerated and assisted the formation of armed groups that operated independently of the government, and disorganized the economy to the extent that there were food shortages.

In left-wing mythology, "the popularly-elected Allende" was overthrown by the tyrant Pinochet. This is far from the truth. Allende received only 36% of the vote and was appointed president by the Chilean congress after Allende swore an oath to respect the constitution.

Three years later on August 22, 1973, the Chilean congress censured Allende for violating law and the constitution in order to "establish a totalitarian system absolutely opposed to the representative system of government established by the Constitution."

Allende was censured for "making violation of the Constitution and the law a permanent system of conduct" and for "systematically trampling the powers of the other branches of government" while at the same time "violating the civil rights of the citizens guaranteed in the Constitution and permitting and stimulating the formation of illegal parallel powers which constitute a grave threat for the nation."

Allende was censured for systematically violating private property rights and illegally taking over 1,500 farms from their owners and hundreds of businesses. The resolution condemned Allende for aiding and abetting the establishment of illegal armed groups that "intend to replace legitimately constituted powers and serve as a base for the dictatorship of the proletariat." The resolution noted that this goal was publicly acknowledged by Allende himself.

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The censure of Allende called upon the military to intervene and oust the Allende government. Housewives, unable to find food for their families, had been calling for military intervention for months. When the women would encounter military officers in the streets, they would throw corn kernels at their feet and cluck like chickens.

The military had to be forced to act by the elected representatives of the people. The irony is that Allende would likely have been pushed aside by the parallel government that he was allowing communists to create.

Pinochet is demonized despite the fact that he established a broad-based commission to create a new constitution and scheduled elections to return the government to civil authority. To achieve reconciliation among Chileans, both terrorists and the military government were amnestied. Pinochet permitted himself to be voted out of power.

The military government kept the amnesty, but successor governments did not. In his old age Pinochet was harassed by vengeful leftists determined to overturn the amnesty only with regard to Pinochet. That fact alone is testimony to which side of the conflict represented true character and a spirit of good will.

Today government corruption is on the rise in Chile as power-seeking politicians seek to remove constitutional restraints and to create economic dependencies that expand political power. It remains to be seen if the legacy of freedom that Pinochet gave to Chile will survive or whether it will succumb to the power of propaganda, just as America’s freedom is succumbing to neoconservative propaganda about the need for a police state to protect Americans from terrorism.

lewrockwell.com/2006/12/paul-craig-roberts/the-power-of-propaganda/

> war is inherently capitalistic
wat

>native american genocide

Take a moment and consider how hard you have to reach for this bullshit thing. That is how never ok communism/socialism/collectivism is user.

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Brutal dictatorships can happen everywhere. Depends on how week and domesticated the society is. And weak and domesticated societies happen to manifest under Socialists systems.

>capitalist fascist dictators
I swear, American education never fails to amuse me for achieving new levels of retardation. Fascism can't exist if there's capitalism and vice-versa. Fascism is the very negation of capitalism. It was born as "the third way", an ideal that opposed both communism and capitalistic imperialism. Ancaps memeing helicopters and snakes in Pinochet's hats are a bunch of mouth breathing uneducated retards that once again prove that castor oil and the truncheon are the only two valid answers to anarchism.

Did you know Mobutu made it punishable to wear a hat similar like the one hes wearing?

>human nature was filled with war and tribalism
>human nature is not capitalistic

Cant expect a man to much out of communism user. He was the hero they deserved not the one they needed. Now get a fucking helicopter ride.

see

TRIPS OF TRUTH

Quit making excuses its socialism.

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Seizing the industries was completely legal and it was a law of the goverment of Marmaduke Grove.

The famous armed revolution never existed and it's all a fabrication, evidenced for the complete lack of armed resistance to Pinochet for the next 10 or more years.

Allende never called for an armed revolution Altamirano did, and even him never armed nobody.

Show me their 'civilian' kill counts.
Then compare with commies.

Citations on those numbers.

> what is inefficient government?
come on left pol. Not even your shitty memes are logical

The "private charity will solve all these problems" meme is the most bullshit part of most of the right-wing arguments against socialism. Ben Shapiro is particularly bad at it. I guarantee he gives less than 1% of his annual income to charitable causes.

People are generous when the government isnt robbing them. We actually have evidence of this user. The wellfare state grows and charity dies.

Can we see the same map but using a percentage of whites only?

s-s-SHUT UP!

Can we overlay this map with data about illegal immigrants (number of them, sanctuary cities, perhaps even how many of their kids go to government funded schools) and who governs these regions? Cause I don't think "capitalism" has anything to do with this.

Please, schlohmo

Any percentage of Americans can be in poverty if you use a politically motivated definition of poverty

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really makes me think that maybe capitalism or socialism are completely separate from democracy or autocracy

Thanks Obongo?
2008 - 2016 = America to the shitter

A decline since Good ol' Bush was elected, and your commie black prezidentz added 1 tri to the debt

>regime killed 10,000
>less than stalin or mao before breakfast
>less than Castro
>'disidents', many being violent enemies of the the state
So about as many as Che killed with his own hands?

Pinochet did nothing wrong

>United States
>African Slave Trade
>150,000,000

u fokin wot m8

Wow who would have thought? You might be onto something

>killing ISIS tier muslim fundamentalists is a human rights abuse
WEW LAD

A couple thousand of dead commies is much better than risk millions of people starve

Really makes you think

youtube.com/watch?v=LCkd6EA_B0U

>Brutal dictatorships never happen in capitalist countries
Said no one ever

>inb4 USSR was capitalist

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>pak chung hee
>brutal dictatorship

I would take every bit of Pinochet's bad sides if it meant no communist revolution in my country. Every time.

Better dead than fucking red

xDD

batista was a social democrat, sese seko a fascist, the shah was not a dictator, pinochet stepped down when the people voted against him (as a truly democratic leader), and park chung hee was freely elected in 1963, 67, 71 and indirectly elected in 72 and 78 and was relatively (compared to the alternative) a peacenik, while mr suharto was elected as freely as mr putin, nice try tho

Nice try

this is how you see how retarded commies are

The Soviets did not invade Afghanistan. The Democratic Republic of Afghanistan asked for Soviet intervention to combat the Mujahideen Islamists which were being backed by the USA and Pakistan.

>When you don't know what capitalism is

This is pretty interesting. (((Commies))) seem to have a habit where everything that isn't (((Communism))) is capitalism or is Nazism based on whatever meme point you're trying to make.
Something tells me if I backtraced this image I would end up on the same place the "(((Commies))) had a higher calorific intake during (((Communism))) than after its fall" meme, seemingly originated, and only ever gets posted on - plebbit.

Communist countries can't afford to go to war with being subsidized by porky.

>free elections means a leader can't be a tyrant

I don't think anyone has ever claimed that dictatorships don't happen under capitalism, considering that capitalism is an economic system, not a political one.

Thanks OP. This is one of the most enjoyable threads I've read in a while.
Dictatorships can START in a capitalist society. It's just that the thirst for power will eventually entrench the economic system of the country

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>Communist countries can't afford to go to war with being subsidized by porky.


^meant for you

*Brutal dictatorships never happen in white capitalist countries.

>implying ruthless right winged dictators are "tryants" because they weed out the communistic rats that made the country a shit hole in the first place

>not realizing pinochet was literally the only dictator that quietly handed over his thrown when he promised to

>Mobutu
>Capitalist

And t b h. Chile had long-term economic progress due to Pinochet and Spain under Franco was in economic,social and moral peak.
Not to mention Portugal under Salazar.

correlation is not causation

>Annex half of poland
Annex karelia
>annex all of the baltic states
>Woah, where'd all these new people come from?

/leftypol/ is truly stupid

>what is annexing Eastern Europe

Only Americans had slaves and they'd kill them for fun because they were really cheap and not considered valuable in any way.

>capitalism is an ideology
are you literally retarded?

>public debt % GDP
>~13%

Wow. Genuinely impressive.

I never claimed he was.

...said no one ever

These graphs are the stupidest shit.

13% should be the ceiling not the floor. The last century has really destroyed people's sense of debt.

>Hurricane Katrina

Maybe it was legal to seize the industries, but still it completely destroyed the economy you dumbass. Which is the main reason of why its a bad a idea.

Fake news