Ask a former black nationalist anything

Ask a former black nationalist anything.

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>when did you fall for the white woman jew?

Have you read The Crisis of the Negro Intellectual?

What state are you from?

> former

Why did you start being a fag?

>former

don't tell me you regressed into niggerdom.

No. I just pulled up a few reviews of it, seems like it's from a leftist that criticizes the means of communist controlled black nationalist groups but not the aims.
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Why do you edge-posters on pol claim marxist black nationalists are the only good niggers and simultaneously think commies need be thrown out of helicopters.
I fell for the Eastern European woman jew once but found out that they're more expertise than American women in luring you in for commitment. Shiet.

I just want blacks to go away desu senpai. Wouldn't you be comfy as fuck playing black muslim in 100% proud black New Africa communities along the Mississippi River?

>marxist black nationalists
all nationalists in that era were marxists. In leafland we had the marxists quebec nationalists, and the irish nationalists were marxist too. The soviet union was likely pushing for these things so marxism seeped into what could have otherwise been good nationalist movements

ignore the flag, it got stuck on ancap accidently

why have you abondoned your people?

>I just want blacks to go away
This is more or less the core of our movement. For a long time we did our best to ignore the existence of non-whites but its becoming increasingly hard to do that.

I personnally want quebec to seperate for the same reason as I just want to be able to not think and hear about quebec anymore.

What do you think of the current racial tensions?

Black islam is more shit than actual islam senpai. No baka.
Your post is redpilled until...
>marxism seeped into what could have otherwise been good nationalist movements
Marxism didn't seep into nationalist movements. Nationalism as an ideology was formulated in revolutionary France as a banner to force loyalty of all citizens to the state. When Karl Marx was imprisoned in Germany in 1848 and sentenced to death, he had been taking part in a nationalist revolution to unify all the german states under one strongly centralized government-- the NEW NATIONAL GOVERNMENT. And this new government with unlimited powers would aim for communism.

Pic related. Pic is a commie artist's depiction of the first flag waving of the revolutionary German Nationalist tri-color flag from the 1848 attempted revolution.
Might as well be asking why black nationalists left their people. Many have boasted that only 5% of blacks are good revolutionaries, 10% are filthy bourgeoisie and the other 85% are sheep.
Healthy until the next general election cycle

If black islam doesn't fly, why not hotep? lead your people out of the ghetto and into the promised land. Then build a wall around it to keep us white Devils out.

Methodism is more redpilled.

How did you become a former black and can you teach your method to all of the other black people?

You're too smart for me. No wonder you don't want to live in a Dixieland Haiti.

Fine! You stay, but trick the 85% into going.

What Nation?

>former
y doe?

Normally this could be an interesting thread blackanon, but the shilling is over the top tonight. Something is being slid hard, possibly the Awan/DWS thing. I wouldn't expect too much in real conversation.

I assume you ask what nation my black nationalism was allegiant to. When I was mezmerized into the world of black identity politics, I would call myself a black nationalism but not identify that with a specific black nation.

That doesnt make sense to you yet. For you to get that, you have to understand how communist governments and black nationalism works.

In the Soviet Union, you had nationalism. There was Turkish Nationalism movements which sought independence in russia in 1917. The communist movement co-opted them, The end result was that the Turks got a "nation" in the form of strict borders around the land most the turks lived but the government within these borders would be composed of only communist members whom took every single political order from Moscow.

Applied to the United States, communist black nationalism would see the southern united states and several counties in the north with large populations of blacks administered by Washington DC separately from the rest of the country.

The administrators appointed to govern these regions will be called representatives of the people, and will claim to give power to the poor and the blacks, but appointed is what they are and they "Administer" or rule without the will of the people. Guidelines are handed down from the centralized communist government in Washington DC.

All of this would come about from federal programs to bring about equality. The Black Muslim's manifesto implies all of its goals would come about from federal programs.

Some radical black nationalists believe the progressive legislation would allow the black majority south to secede but that is unlikely, Once America goes communist, most black nationalists will get executed for theyll have outlived their usefulness

No, same amount of shilling as normal. Just that the length of time I am taking to write posts could result in lurkers leaving.

I forgot to add that black nationalists refer to these appointed administrators as "democratic rule." When i was a black nationalist, instead of pledging my nationalism to a country, I pledge to a democratic system that gives black political power at the national level. More hardcore black nationalists would say this democracy gives them political power to take the south and form it with an international socialist union of colored countries. Today, it is only a fringe few of the nationalists that speak of this international union but it was mainstream thinking of liberals in the 1960s.

Do you like animals? Would you go out of your way to save a (white) woman or child in danger?

Love animals. And bugs, Love me a spiderbro.

Actually saved a child in danger once. Was a toddler that his shitskin muslim piece of shit parents allowed towander into a busy road but when you see a kid in danger you dont think that, you have a heart attack jolt that brings every fiber of your nervous system to hear and now.

Did you/do you unironically believe in the WE WUZ KANGZ/black Egyptian meme?

Why "former"?

What do you think of whenever you encounter blacks calling each other nigger?

You're exactly like me bro wtf has my vicious racism been quelled with a single post?

OP, did you see Im Not Your Negro?

Also, are the police really as hard on black people as its made out to be?

What do you think about Malcolm X bisexuality ?

I realized that the end goals of black nationalist was to produce an authoritarian government. I was upset I felt that black nationalism was a democratic and legit idea but found out that I was tricked into political positions that went against my own self interest.

I realized that one of the goals of black nationalism was to push for black power in the south and support for a broad leftist push for universal equality in the rest of the country and I couldn't figure out how one could support both of these seemingly contradictory positions.

Then I got it when I understood what black power in the ghetto meant. Basically, black power advocates believe that because the US government is a racist institution, blacks anywhere in the country are outside jurisdiction of local, state and federal laws. Black power advocates want the ghetto to be governed by blacks with a nationalist identity and to govern this community outside jurisidction of city ordinances, state regulations and federal law.

THEN IT HIT ME. The only way for this governing system to be possible would be if the federal government, through some civil rights department, FEDERALLY authorized that city to be governed outside city ordinance, outside state statute, and OUTSIDE THE AUTHORITY OF THE CONSTITUTION.

SO I realized ITS A PLOT TO GIVE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AUTHORITY OVER TOWNS WHERE THE CONSTITUTION IS NULL

Lurking hard op, thanks for a good thread

Tell us about one of the most perhaps shocking (to an outsider) radical moments of anger in coherant rhetoric espoused by a fellow Blacknationalist at a social gathering.

Also when you have time, opinions on modern blackpanther militas, aka The huey P Newton gun club,ect.

Also when you have even more time, your opinion and the opinions of others on BLM. Did your fellow company see BLM as a positive working good for black interests?

Bonus question: do you still hate whitey? Do you recognize the differences between whites and jews, or do you lump them together?

>Once America goes communist, most black nationalists will get executed for theyll have outlived their usefulness
Haha what the fuck it's like you aren't retarded anymore
bravo jamal

Is your name Reggie?

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also this is relevant to that being quoted. same shit

What's the best place to get chicken from?

Prince's chicken in Nashville
>let's see if I'm right

What do you think will fix or at least improve the black american people? and what are your thoughts on interracial marriage?

what did Malcolm X think of liberals?

Do black nationalists view themselves as absolutely opposed to white nationalists? Like, as a white nationalist, I'm fine with blacks having their own ethnostate as long as whites are allowed to have their own. Is there a similar idea in black nationalist groups?

Second question. Were you a hotep? If not how were hoteps seen by the group you were in?

Third question. Do black nationalists in America want an ethnostate in America or Africa? Or do they just want little enclaves for their neighborhoods and ghettos that they already live in, like the reservation system we have for the amerindians?

They actually managed this by becoming cherokees.

>Tell us about one of the most perhaps shocking (to an outsider) radical moments of anger in coherant rhetoric espoused by a fellow Blacknationalist at a social gathering.

You would know that black radicals use the term "Uncle Tom" to denounce blacks that dont go along with them. "Negro" is used interchangeably with Uncle Tom and I thought that was normal.

The real shocker is that black nationalists started doing this in the late 60s. They demanded they not be referred to as Negro, they be called black. It would shock an outsider that this history of how Negro became tabboo to say was that black communists turned it into an insult to demonize black conservatives. And the whole point of getting rid of the word Negro was to get rid of a pronoun too many blacks identified with which gave them a sense of patriotism.

reminds me of what malcolm x said about them when we fell out with them

>Also when you have time, opinions on modern blackpanther militas, aka The huey P Newton gun club,ect.
>Also when you have even more time, your opinion and the opinions of others on BLM. Did your fellow company see BLM as a positive working good for black interests?


BLM is bad for black people. There is way too many black panther wannabe groups to keep count of. What I think is that they're copying what communists do in other countries. Set up a few hundred or few thousand bands of radicals that may number as few as three or as many as 20 people. Have these bands set up all over the country and eventually use an underground organization to unify them all into a mass terrorist unit.
Ill give you all the obvious answers. A good work ethic can help black people. But also, a sense of identity. Is there identity with America or Africa?

A sense of identity is important of the performance of the individual. To help blacks in America identify with their AMERICAN heritage, history books need to be rewritten.

MLK was a communist that hated capitalism, many traditionally American freedoms and loved extreme leftist causes and internationalism. He enabled gang violence. He was a sex addict. How can blacks ever advance when that is their role model?

Blacks always hear that they had no freedoms in America before the 60s. Actually, black America from 1900 to 1960, if it was its own country, would had been in the top five of countries with highest living standards and most wealth. Blacks today are taught their history is one of opression and they never stop to think, how did blacks in the 1800s ever get build their own homes, run schools or open banks if they were so oppressed?

How can a black of today better himself if he doesnt have an American identity? How can he have that identity if he knows nothing of black churches, businesses, credit unions and schools in America from 1800 through 1960 and knows only the history of oppression?

So you're saying Black Nationalism was a conspiracy that the government made to keep you down by denying blacks constitutional rights? I don't understand. What was your awakening or what got you out of black nationalism?

What are your political views / racial views now? 10/10 thread BTW

That's actually pretty cool.

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All of this would come about from federal programs to bring about equality. The Black Muslim's manifesto implies all of its goals would come about from federal programs.
So all the gibs would come from dem programs?

Can you smell the nigger on yourself... or are you just use to it?

Thanks for taking the time

>All of this would come about from federal programs to bring about equality. The Black Muslim's manifesto implies all of its goals would come about from federal programs.
So all the gibs would come from dem programs?

The natives resistance fixing the life of people again.

Yes. Here is the manifesto by the way. Just took picture.

Black Power in the ghetto means a change in the operation of government in ghetto neighborhoods in some cities in the US. The governmental change would allow black nationalists to set up their own government in this neighborhood outside authority of city, state and federal governments. The only way this would be possible is if a Federal Program designated that gehtto a place where blacks were desperately in need of advancement. A black beaurucrat with "black national understandings" will be appointed to administer that ghetto via federal guidelines and outside authority of the US Constitution, along with being outside authority of State government statutes and city ordinances.

Or it could be that Marxism represented a revolutionary element that was actively fighting the status quo of the time. It makes sense that nationalist movements in the decolonization era tended to be Marxist because it was a foil to the imperialist nations they were rebelling against. That doesn't mean Marxism was the right answer but it explains why different revolutionary movements of the time gravitated towards Marx.

Pic didnt upload. Here is the manifesto.

Malcolm X never renounced his Marxism. He advocated "self determination in the ghetto" which basically means black power, but black marxist administrators are beholden to an international communist authority, not a strong central government out of Washington DC.

>Third question. Do black nationalists in America want an ethnostate in America or Africa? Or do they just want little enclaves for their neighborhoods and ghettos that they already live in, like the reservation system we have for the amerindians?


Google "Malcolm X and the American Nazi Party."

Whatever article you find after googling that will compare it to marxist black nationalist Marcus Garvey's allegiance with the KKK

Since MLK is a communist, who do you look up to then? Men like Booker T. Washington or Malcom X that promote assimilation?

What political leanings would you say you lean now?

Some examples of your favorite movie/book/music relating to anything in general? Interesting thread

Theres plenty of black business men, religious leaders and revolutionary war heroes to look up to. I have been denouncing Malcolm X this whole thread and Booker T Washington is based.

Pic is a little gift for you guys. Read this post
Black radicals on their own couldnt just erase a word that every black in the nation had identified with for hundreds of years. The press helped. Pic related comes from a book published in 1968. The alarmist Negro autho here documents the beginning of the end of Negro.

You have a book by Ben Richardson originally published as "Great American Negroes" only for later editions to be published "Great Black Americans."

This man is honorable desu

Zora Neale Hurston also is a black woman worth honoring, fantastic author

I am really into American Constitutionalism.

I am looking forward to the remake of Flatliners that is coming out this month. Remake of a very good movie from the 80s and the trailer for the new one makes it look this new version of the movie will be faithful to the original while adding new back stories to the characters.

The original 1980s Flatliners can be described as sort of a Christian thriller because while a good psychological thriller itself, the significance of the plot is better understood by a born again christian.

"Its Very Simple: The True Story of Civil Rights" is good entry-level red pilled reading material on the civil rights movement but it has weaknesses in that the text regularly references events that were recent when the book was published but would go over the head of a modern reader. It was published in 1965 so it doesnt include documentation of later events but above all, read this book.

"It's Very Simple: The True Story of Civil Rights" by Alan Stang

Sorry, I forgot to include the name of the author

Have you read Invisible Man? It's a great existential work by Ralph Ellison about a black guy that gets fed up with marxists, though it's pretty common. I'll have to check flatliners out, cheers

How bougie are you?

What is your weeaboo power level?

What is your best idea to unfuck whatever is wrong with black america now?

Read it. Obama made a token gesture of it by calling it one of the books that helped him find himself when he was young or something. LOL

>What is your best idea to unfuck whatever is wrong with black america now?
I gave my answer in: You got a better answer?

OP!!! Thanks for taking the time out to make this thread. It's a breath of fresh air and a wealth of knowledge from a perspective we rarely see often. I do have a question though.

What would you say to the young black youth in America, if you could give any advice?

Wow, an honest to god recipient of the very generous "Huggy Bear Clause".
I wish you luck in the racial vetting process

It's too vague to be an actual answer. The idea of unifying under patriotisim isn't a bad one ,but there's no obvious action plan.

How did you quit being black?

I'd point him to this quote from a Wall Street Journal article:
>Between 1890 and 1940, for example, black marriage rates in the U.S. where higher than white marriage rates. In the 1940s and ’50s, black labor-participation rates exceeded those of whites; black incomes grew much faster than white incomes; and the black poverty rate fell by 40 percentage points. Between 1940 and 1970—that is, during Jim Crow and prior to the era of affirmative action—the number of blacks in middle-class professions quadrupled. In other words, racial gaps were narrowing. Steady progress was being made. Blacks today hear plenty about what they can’t achieve due to the legacy of slavery and not enough about what they did in fact achieve notwithstanding hundreds of years in bondage followed by decades of legal segregation.

The fact is that after the 60s, black America hit a wall. The murder rate in black communities in the 80s was actually much higher than it is compared to todays standards. The simple fact is that a separation from national identity and the embrace of socialism did more to fuck black people than 200 years of slavery and 100 years of Jim Crow.

Today, blacks still suffer an identity crisis and that identity crisis is a black American's number one issue. Without that he cannot find the willpower to better himself.

fuck you, cunt.

The old arguments in favor of patriotism don't apply today. The old arguments rested on honor but today, the concept of honor is too muddied.

To become patriotic you must first realize you were fucked by the school system in America that tried to make yo conform, where teachers ignored disciplining the kids in preference to being friends with them, and where mob rule reigns. The whole point of this is to strip you of your individuality. Patriotism must be linked to individuality.

Was Marcus Garvey right about them?

I won't pretend to know exactly where you're coming from, but it's pretty close.

How could a white person ever trust a country, or an entire civilization, that had the world in its hands and just give it away? Why are whites themselves so intent on helping the ""other"" disassemble or destroy what those who came before them created?

Why did arguments end in fights when you prove your point? Why do people insult you when you confront them with the truth? I started to hate people.

Then I understood that the elites were RIGHT about us. We are but stupid, unimportant, serfs and everything else that denotes a pleb scumbag. We really do deserve what we get.

I mean, if we the common people were really as smart as we like to believe, why aren't we in control of what happens in our lives? Sorry for the rant.

Kinda wish I had the opportunity to bring up the fact that MLK was a guy that talked about nonviolence a lot but often had violent agitators follow him around, sometimes on his payroll, to cause violence for MLK to denounce.

"Where King went, the riots followed" as some analysts commented. And King's racial agitators were more extreme than BLM.

Listen to this song. Singer is on MLK's payroll. Those lyrics dont sound "nonviolent" to me.
youtube.com/watch?v=09nnfO-f0pg

MLK actually led to incidents involving plenty of arson, anarchy, murders, terrorism but Sup Forums only brings up that he banged dozens of prostitutes.

This is word salad

>People around King thought independently and came to different conclusions
>Ergo King was le violent
You fail at logic, honky.

BUMP: beacuse "based black man" is not just a meme, it's a necessity. thanks for this thread OP. It's nice to see MI finally making some damn sense for once. :)

no it's not, what he's saying is that to become a real patriot, you must see the fucked "education" system for what it is, and teachers should be strong enough to command a leading role, yet gentile to not be too overbearing that turns you off from hearing what they are teaching. succesful education comes from a genuine respect betewwn teacher and student, in most schools today that is lacking. the "mob rule" comes about from being TOO lenient, (give an inch, take a mile). It's been tried and abused so it's time to reign it in. rebalance the scales, and point out where things went wrong. kids today are not afraid of getting disciplined, in fact it's most teachers that become afraid of the student body, and this in turn leads to failed leadership and lack of respect. a spiral into failure.

youtube.com/watch?v=3y-wB12l8v0

by building UP the individual student you create a sense of worth both as an individual and as an individual citizen of then nation that you reside in. and thus a growing love and appreciation develops that is called "Patriotism".
it's like the difference between "giving a hand UP" as opposed to just "giving a HAND OUT". Teaching a man TO fish,so that he may be able to not only feed himself but others as well, and not just lowering the standards universally so everyone just gets a fish.

What are your favourite movies ?

Kill yourself?

Weird that nobody has asked the obvious: how do black nationalists view the difference between their own race and the whites? Since you're on Sup Forums I assume you're familiar with common white nationalist talking points concerning black intelligence, culture, technology and so on. Do black nationalists likewise see white people as inferior, and if so, with what kind of arguments do they use to support such position? Or is it more like WN-Jew thing, with whites seen as exploitative parasites and meddling oppressors? Or maybe belief in racial differences isn't even a thing in black nationalism?

There's literally nothing wrong with black nationalism. It's being a Marxist that makes you a nigger.

Hey man thanks for all these posts; this is what i come to Sup Forums to see. You should write a book man, i never here this perspective.

This thread is the essence of what an anonymous forum is about.

Thanks

SPLC has a map of hate groups in America.
All 4 of the hate groups in New Jersey were black nationalists.

Thank you for the "former" in you opening post.

>former black nationalist
How did you stop being black? Can you teach others this miracle?

kys nigger

What role did Farakhan play in the Malcolm X assasination?

Great idea nigger, let's make another nigger run community, or how about you fuck off to where you came from. Africa is such a wonderful place,truly a beacon of the negro race.

Now kys you're not even human.

i think pic related belongs ITT

You spics are worse than niggers, we can handle a stagnate band of primates, literally end welfare and they will starve/kill each other. You spics are slightly smarter than niggers but are twice as subversive, your race and your race alone will be the downfall of America. You will have niggers beaten in number of continents ruined then.

How does it feel to have a sub-90 IQ?

are you a dupe who fell too deep into the redpill or paid off Russian destabilization agent?

white man here with a beautiful white family btw

Look at the history of any South American country, then ask yourself why it had to be this way when we have been >80% European for 350 years and >93% for 150 years before 1965.

Now go to any urban city and tell yourself this is what you wanted all along.

Also our country would be worse off than brazil had we not been able to accumulate 23 trillion in debt. They know hard times would tear this country apart so they're keeping us afloat for some reason.