Traps are both gay and not gay

The question "Are traps gay?" is been oversimplified. In the end, it's a silly question which leads us to a more important question about how this affects society and how it affects your ability to be a productive member of your community.
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Is this gay?

>Is this gay?
Could you be more specific?

Go away, Scrodinger's Homo.

Pretty good, sandpie.

If you wanted to have sex with this person, would it make you gay?

I want to have sex with beautiful women because I'm heterosexual. That looks like a fairly beautiful woman, so I would want to have sex with them. Just skimming the link in OP this is the tl;dr.

you being attracted to it because it looks like a woman doesn't make you gay but you going as far as taking it in the ass by that thing makes you ultra gay

Maybe, but they are degenerate and that is all we need yo know.

OP is right, the real question we should be asking is: If we set them on fire, will people still ask us this inane question?

Because they are males that have sex with other males, they are gays. they devoting their lifes to look girly doesn't change what sex they are

Observing traps and being attracted to their feminine features is not gay. Being attracted to their feminine behavior is not gay.

Being attracted to their penis is gay. Having sex with them is gay.

With this particular person, there is no way you'd be taking it in the ass. They are bottom only.

This is a 2d cropped image. An illusion. If you met this person irl you might have a very different impression. Something would be off.

I would also argue that putting your dick in a trap is a heterosexual act, regardless of one's sexuality. Does it lock you into a permanent state of faggotry? Perhaps not. Is it gay? Undeniably so. That said, sex is for making babies.

>braaaaaaaaap

If you are a dick and are still aroused, yes, you are homosexual.

Still wrong, simply asking "is it gay" is too simplistic. Homosexual men are not attracted to traps and therefore traps aren't gay, but heterosexual men are not attracted to traps either so it isn't straight either. All we can say is that traps are degenerate. Some people mean shemales, crossdressers, feminine men, before even asking if traps are gay one should ask what are traps and second if gay is the right adjective instead of deviant or something else.

traps are gay and for faggots
faggots are for being ridiculed
keep your degeneracy private and no one will get hurt

But *why* is it degenerate? This needs to be answered. And the answer is this: sex is for making babies.
I agree. Most heterosexual men who meet a trap irl are going to instantly notice their masculine, non-fertile features and lose any attraction that once had to their perceived femininity.

Will this cause teh gay?

Wrong

right you faggot
just because you failed to be anything america is and rejected any and all good values in favour of being most cultural marxist country ever does not mean you are objectively wrong
I would insert some gay trudeou pic but I do not save imagees of Castro bastard kid

If it has a dick, it's gay ~ Gandhi

Not an argument

translate pic for me please, sausagebro?

except it has a penis or had a penis which makes it male, which also makes you gay because you know it is a male and still fuck it

I agree that is one final redpill that even many on Sup Forums refuse to swallow. I was fairly blue pilled on it for awhile too. Now it just seems silly that so many refuse to accept it.

>not an argument
is not argument you fuckwit, just because your internet celebrity of the month said it it is not some fuckin holy scripture winning all verbal clashes
>FAGGOT!
>I hear it everyday
>HATRED HURTS
on little piece of paper:
>And your ASS doesn't hurt?

>trap thread #10000000000 on Sup Forums
Can you stop? Your faggy discussion about your faggy tendencies never goes anywhere

Stained glass BRRAAAPP

But you can't really make a counter argument to a non-argumunt. So that's also not an argument. That said, fuck leafposters. That's a statement.

Traps are only gay if they have homosexual sex with a dude. If a trap wants to be a sissy, he can be 100% straight if he fucks only females.

Traps are neither gay or straight, however a trap can decide to be either.

Gay or not, the sex is better because not only will they not get pregnant, but will often want more that one round of sex.

Traps are super gay, and anal sex is degenerate and satanic.

Maybe if you could actually read you would realize that it has gone somewhere.

>Traps are both gay and not gay
Exactly:

>attracted to traps when you DON'T know they're actually men: Not gay
>attracted to traps AFTER you know they're actually men: Gay

It's that simple. It's why they are called "traps".

Alright, so if you're attracted mostly to the not gay features then it's not gay overall. I think I get it now.

Traps are gay. Instead of trying to deny your homosexuality by saying traps aren't gay, just come out of the closet and accept that you're a faggot

Leave it to Sup Forums to arrive at the exact opposite of the point.

If you didn't know it was a man then you aren't gay
If you knew it was a man then you're gay
If you liked it more because you knew it was a man you're super gay

The only counter argument to "not an argument" is that it's not an argument, which in itself is not an argument.

Are men shit? No.
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someone post the video of bailey jay saying traps are indeed gay

Holy fuck please give me sauce

>traps are gay
>no, traps aren't gay
>yes they are
>no they aren't
>repeat ad infinitum
High level discourse

Your DNA Your partner's DNA Result
XY XX Not Gay

XY XY Gay

>Are traps gay?
When you say gay, you normally think a man who has a sexual preference or inclination for men, or a woman with the same for women. I think if you have a transvestite (only women's clothes, makeup, etc.) then it is fundamentally gay, but gay with a kink. Other than that, I think transexuals are a different ball of wax. Should they be lumped in with homosexuals? Maybe not. I say it because a transexuals modify themselves physically, which is not necessarily sexual. I think there are probably a couple men and women out there who are fundamentally the other on the inside so to speak, and a desire to change sex is just a desire to be congruent in one's appearance and reception amongst peers that is consistent with their personality and emotions. For this I think gay is not the right term. HOWEVER, I am highly skeptical of transexuals not being interested in becoming a desired sex for the arousal associated with the idea. This is highly indicative of hypersexualism. I think if you want to go through with a sex change, you should be willing to do it considering you might have -zero- sex drive after the processes you undergo and might be rendered infertile. If these are negatives, I don't think you're really trans and you're going to very stupid ends to essentially masturbate (this makes it a mental illness because of the fact it will harm you, as you're actually physically harming yourself if you adjust hormones (sexual organs lose function, one side effect is infertility, but others include depression, long term kidney and liver damage, and more), you probably will harm your relations with friends and family, and it will likely cause you a lot of emotional upset). In the latter case, I would more call this a mentally ill hypersexual with possible autogynephilia and possibly homosexuality (again, many of those who have a desire to transition are not even sexually attracted to their own sex, which indicates autogynephilia or some extreme hypersexuality).

>completely ignores the huge redpill
The conditioning is strong with this one.

I am a trap myself, does that make me gay?

It's just a trick for both sides, traps believe they're the gender they want despite no technology allowing it and use feminine features to con heteros into homo acts. But it all boils down to XX=Female, XY=Male, any other combination= It

you're gay

It's generally a question about whether being attracted to you is gay.
Yes, but you're forgetting one thing: sex is for making babies.

the circle of not-argumentation

>But it all boils down to XX=Female, XY=Male, any other combination= It
bullshit

go fuck yourself you misogynistic pig. male/female is just literally testosterone/estrogen level differences. Your chromosomes do determine if you produce the correct amount, but if you take estrogen... you are a woman

trips of bait

ok virgin

Plz

If you see a rainbow in the sky does it make your blood boil?

oc

Gays appropriated the beautiful rainbow flag of the ancient Inca people.

>but if you take estrogen... you are a woman
Yeah, if I take dog's snout and attach it to my face it certainly makes me a dog. You also forgot different brain structures and all those cute things that will never go away no matter how many swimming pools of estrogens you drown in.

sex with man = gay

no, but I seek pot of gold at the end of it
there are no gays in heaven

femininity is determined by physical attributes/bodyfat/demeanor etc...

not your fuckin chromosomes you virgin

>feminity is not determined by chromosomes
lol what a faggot

it's only gay once you've discovered it's a trap and continue masturbating. where do you think the term "trap" even comes from? it's an old meme for tricking people into looking at tranny dicks.

but to be completely fair, nearly all people who look at traps or trannies are bisexual at most and at least just perverted in what porn they watch. traps don't cater to gay men, since they're not displaying themselves as men. this is obvious.

they're complete faggots themselves, though.

the chromosomes act as the foundation builders of your endocrine system to release estrogen.

if you take estrogen, your body doesn't need to produce it and you will naturally act like any other girl would. same with testosterone

sex=gender, you, neither marxists or your sociology teacher can change anything about it, if your sex do not align to your gender, congratulations you're mentally ill
>virgiiiiin reeee
nice ad hominem, prime sign of losing an argument

this isnt an argument. i'm right and you are wrong.

its simple...you virgin

God I HATE when gay homophobes like you lash out :(

It's perfect. Well, except for one thing.

enjoy never being taken seriously and never winning an argument, wonder how many failures it takes for your suicide

>this, but
>4 inch clit
gay?

and I hate faggots who insult God by their stupid mental ilness and fucking wrong sex
>if you use chemicals to alter your normal state you turn into a faggot
no shit sherlock, sky is blue

I just realized the vagina is in the wrong place. Who the fuck drew this?

even better, stop using the term gender. it was coined by a jew (last name money, not even joking).

youtube.com/watch?v=8oqCk7aDhKU

stop using this meme term, stick with sex. (((gender))) is jew psyop

Everyday I see another reason to think Poland is very based. I usually dont talk about it because I dont want to attract attention. Keep on lad.

>minds

Get the fuck out

You're GAY and even worse, you're totally in denial about it! Absolutely tragic that you have to hurt yourself like that. Sorry your country doesn't treat your kind better.

So what if you're attracted to traps, even their dicks (at least in porn), but still: 90%+ of anyone you've ever been attracted to have been women?


I'm willing to admit that's gayer than only being attracted to women; but it seems like a ninefold exaggeration to say it's "just gay," since that term would seem to apply to men who are attracted exclusively to men: who indeed present themselves *as* men.

>projecting this hard
You didn't read anything.

source on gif please

its literally not gay at all. your chromosomes help your endocrine system produce estrogen/testosterone. if you take any of those hormones it is the same as having those xx or xy chromosomes. if anything traps can be MORE feminine than cis women because of artificially high levels of estrogen

No trap lover is gay, for the simple fact they're ATTRACTED TO THE (((FEMALE FORM))), not the male / masculinity.

The mechanics of the intercourse they have -- be it homosexual in nature or not -- is incidental and immaterial; because the arousal (from the male perspective) comes from titillation with A CHICK with a dick, not a bloke with a cock.

In this sense, those who mutually masturbate to porn with other males -- or, indeed, those who get pegged by their female partners -- are just as "gay" (arguably gayer -- given they're defying their apparently heterosexuality in order to indulge homosexual titillation) than trap lovers.

>/traps/ =/= gay
>faggots who fap to 12 niggers facial abusing a female in a bukkake troop = GAY (and misogynistic)

But why does it matter whether or not it is gay? It's because sex is for making babies.

It is simple?
Do you know that it is a trap?
Yes? You're gay.
No? You're straight, but tricked.

Is the trap THEMSELVES gay?

Not always, no.

Some might be straight, but dress up girly.
Others might be gay, yet this applies even if they were not a trap.

So verdict:

Traps are not gay, unless there's knowledge beforehand.

oh oh i got one for you guys

what's gayer? Watching a black man fuck your wife and get her pregnant and then you raising the child with your own money and your wife undermines you everyday and erodes your soul as a man as this black mans baby leeches off the teet of your wife and sweat of your brow to one day become a white-hating racist

or fucking a trap once in a dark moment of loneliness and reckless despair

really salads my melons

Do her pants say "mud" on the other side?

letting the nigger poz your arse as your wife masturbates in the corner is probably the least gay option

Found the gay MGTOW living with the regret of having fucked a trap.

haha nice one you racist piece of shit

>this, but
>needs to wear a strap-on and anal rape you to orgasm
>always wears a fedora
gay?

>hurr if you insult faggots you are a faggot
that is bullshit and everyone know it

Yes. The fedora seals it.

Fucking oath mate.

So should a married couple who enjoy sex stop when she reaches menopause?

I agree that reproduction in the primary function, the heart and soul of sex, if you will, but it has peripheral functions -- pleasure, bonding -- and these aren't negligible.

how is a girls finger up your ass gayer than sucking dick?