Will fascism ever work or will it just end is mass death every time?

Will fascism ever work or will it just end is mass death every time?

Fascism always was violently deposed by external forces. Communism, on the other hand, always collapsed on its own.

Fascism has only lost thanks to outside causes. Communism collapses because it's a shit system.

>launch a military coup against communist government
>it failed on its own lel

>will it just end is mass death every time?

Sounds like you know nothing of fascist Spain.

Fascism has always been a temporary form of government formed to face an extreme threat like communism or invasive threat. It's never intended to be a long-term system.

>Imperial Japan
>fascist
lmfao

A lot of fascist states provoked invasion.

More like fascism is so successful that non-fascist countries cannot allow it to succeed since they would look bad by comparison and so invade and destroy it wherever it crops up.

First of all Spain wasn't fascist, it was Falangist, and second, it ended because Franco died, it didn't fail.

>fascism fails because it ends in mass death
The goal of fascism IS mass death

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> Failed
> Chile

Sage

>franco died of natural cause
>salazar (portugal) died of natural cause
>pinochet, failed? lol no
>brazil, compared to today?

Chile was and still is a jewish experiment

There is nothing fascist about it

Integralistas never reached the power

Could someone shop the antifa flag in there? Probably over Chile

>Spain
Guess dying of natural causes is defeat.

>it didn't fail.
>the system crushed right after death of creator

>Forgetting Argentina

>Spain
>Portugal
>Chile
>Mass Deaths
Nice bait commie scum

Fascism has never been tried in real life.

yeah and Spain is such a great country right now. Leftists and monarchists (what a mix) ruined it. Thanks to Franco Spain recovered from the Civil War and it's not a east europe tier shithole.

>That person didn't die
>He got crushed by oxidation overtime

the tought of autarky scares the international cabal of jews too much, thats why it failed. And because hitler was retarddd

Death Everytime

>brazil
Why is the left so bad at making memes?

Franco killed half a million people with the war, and his forces killed tens of thousands of civilians suspected of disloyalty. Pinochet killed three thousand or so and imprisoned many tens of thousands, many of whom were gruesomely tortured.

From left to right starting from Germany: Nazism, FASCISM, fascist/nationalist, nationalist, higly conservative regime,?,highly nationalist,?.
That's isnt even the true flag of the Italian social republic.

>communists launch coup against communists because it wasn't real communism

Why don't we just use this instead of the swastika? American libs don't know shit about world culture outside the food channel so it's not like they'd recognize it.

To each, their own. Let them be judged according to their works.

> spain
> failed
> chile
> failed

top sweetie

Fascism worked pretty well for Taiwan, Chile, & Spain

Portugal & Japan weren't Fascist

This. Imagine being France or Britain in the interbellum and Germany just rises from the ashes and makes you look like you're not even trying.

I want yo actually try it since they never got in power in my country.Now tell me mr expert if communism and capitalism have failed my country and monarchism is no longer an option the what should we try now?

you forgot singapore, 3rd richest country in the world

Only two of those listed countries were fascist. One, if you don't consider Germany's natsoc as "pure" fascism. Besides, they didn't fail or collapse in their own impossibility. They got crushed by their enemies.

How many "true" fascist government countries have there even been in world history? Obviously Germany and Italy, but what about ancient Rome? Isn't ancient Rome with Caesar and all that shit some proto-fascism? Mussolini took lots of influences from Caesar's reign, including the infamous Roman salute and the symbol of fascism; fascis, aka bundle of sticks aka faggot.

None of those were real fascism.

You better change the political ideology then, integralism doesn't care about race.

National Socialist Germany didn't fail.

Iran, Brunei, and Singapore are fascist nations currently succeeding.

>Thanks to Franco Spain recovered from the Civil War and it's not a east europe tier shithole.
Thanks to US financial support.
Whatever, if system cannot outlive creator it's a shit system

Yeah, a lot of dead communists.

Those poor, poo commies amirite?

>look up translation of "fascis"
>jewgle claims it's latin for prisoners

>Thanks to US financial support.

Actually, US and other allies embargoed us. People died from hunger and diseases.

It wasn't until the cold war started that US realized that an anti-communist spain was good for them and started helping us

>Thanks to US financial support
Spain didn't receive Marshall Plan aid.

The United States is currently practicing economic fascism, and look at it today. Yes, in the beginning, it worked very well. But over time, it has severed its own limbs so that it may feast another day.
Fascism is necessary if you have a failed state and want to recover it instead of converting to ancapism or another anarchist ideology. But if it remains, and doesn't transition to something else, you get exactly what is happening right now (and then some).
If an ideology, when applied to a single facet of a nation fails, it does not deserve further implementation.

>There is a little known fact that doesn’t appear anywhere on any balance sheet of the Federal Government. The $17 trillion dollar national debt is just the tip of the iceberg. In reality, the reported budget deficit of $17 trillion is less than one-fifth of the more accurate figure.
>The actual liabilities of the federal government—including the promises we’ve already made with respect to Social Security, Medicare, and federal employees’ future retirement benefits—already exceed $86.8 trillion. Add that to the $17 trillion US National Debt, and we’re looking at over $100 trillion dollars in debt.

It's "fasces", not "fascis". A fasces is a bundle of sticks around an axe or spear, carried by a Roman "lictor" as a symbol of strength through unity.

>Spain didn't receive Marshall Plan aid.
Yes they've received credits later.

One time, Fascism worked so good that the whole world was needed to destroy one country.

Fascism is just an Italian buzzword. Mussolini's Italy was ''fascist.'' None of the other flags in that pic are fascist flags and anyone advocating for fascism is a complete idiot who has probably never even heard of Mussolini, who is the first, the only and the last fascist leader.

Military failure =/= economic failure

Some people have to hang this on their fucking wall.

> Communism, on the other hand, always collapsed on its own.
>Communists constantly subject to NATO invasion in an attempt to strain their budget/break their back.

>It didn't fail, it was just completely unable to deal with the problem of succession

Whew!

Being ganged on != military failure

>Military failure =/= economic failure
>World Wars
>not clashing of economics
>meanwhile all Fascist countries except Germany were too poor to allow modern armies

Singapore is fascist

Stop being a fag. It worked here.

>if system cannot outlive creator it's a shit system
So every 8 years a system fails since we elect a new president then?
If I buy a computer but I pour water all over it does it mean that the computer didn't work and failed?
If I create a system to improve the benefits of a company that can be easely taught but I leave the company and they hire some dumb fuck through affirmative action does that mean that my system failed because someone else came after me and didn't know what to do with it? Is that your logic?

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But what about Caesar? Mussolini's whole thing was based on Caesar, including the Roman salute and the literal symbol.

No its a false government fomented by the jews. People will naturally break away from the system in times of peace. The true red pill is small government.

Oy vey remember the 25 billion.

That is the last political redpill, but this is the final economic truth.

>Military failure =/= economic failure
>World Wars
>not clashing of economics
>meanwhile all Fascist countries except Germany were too poor to allow modern armies

>Integralism
>Mass death

KEK.

Irrelevant.
Hitler took inspiration from Roman aesthetics, that doesn't mean Caesar a ''Nazi.''
Fascism is a meaningless buzzword. It started and ended with Mussolini. There have been authoritarian socialist governments before Mussolini and there have been governments like that after Mussolini. He didn't invent anything and calling other governments fascist is just retarded. No one is reading Mussolini's words and going ''oh yeah, this is the ideology I subscribe to. wtf I am a fascist now.'' Most so called fascist dictators didn't give a single fuck about Mussolini.

You must be Jew here.

Name two fascist countries, brainlet

Well because every time it was tried, the opposition was stronger

Don't be so foolish. 'Fascism' as you're calling it only fails under the weight of the entire White world collapsing it. Unlike your Bolshevik friends who need to oppress their own citizens and slaughter millions to keep your ship going, which inevitably fails from internal incompetency.

Some of the countries you've listed particularly Germany and Japan were economic superpowers and their people, particularly in Germany's case were all die hard party supporters. Nobody went hungry, social and economic infrastructure was unmatched by any nation at the time and it took the entire WHITE world to bring it all down. That's the reality.

No dont you get it? Government is fake all it does is leech off the people. Sure USA has checks and balances and a fine constitution but the government is inherently corrupt and theres nothing we can do about it.

only communists need to build walls to keep people in

Franco was not fascist
Salazar was not fascist
Pinochet was not fascist
The Integralists never had power

Stop spreading this bullshit image.

Integralism promotes miscigenation in order to unify the country under one single identity.

When they say ''fascist'' what they mean is any government that fights back against Marxists. It has literally nothing to do with Mussolini and his ideas. That is basically what it is.
The only thing all these countries and leaders they call fascist have in common is that they didn't bend down and take it up the ass.
This is why Trump and Farage are called fascist, even though no one has idea what Fascist Italy has to do with either of them.

All this shit is just newspeak that should be snuffed out wherever it is seen.

Fascism is the only form of socialism that works, and it was stuff of the past century.
It's natural evolution is a sort of social democratic ideology.
And social democracy is not the retarded stuff that is in Sweden.

What you're essentially saying is that no one can make socialism work without Mussolini telling them how to do it.
I don't think you know what words mean. Stop throwing around liberal buzzwords. Words have meanings.

>socialism
Name me one country that implemented it succesfully.

>National Socialist Workers Party
>Fascist

Also Nazism didn't fail as a government, it failed as a military against 5 other countries.

I can't, there are none.
What the fuck does that have to do with anything I said?
You literally said that socialism works only when implemented by Mussolini, when I point that out your go ''hurr hurr name a successful socialist country.'' Are you retarded?

Thousands of people died in Chile. Most of them weren't even recognised as dead because they were never found. The numbers were much much higher than what it says on the internet.

It is not bait. People really suffered. I can testify that. It did not matter if you were a conservative or a freakin commie. We all got equally fucked in the ass.

>You literally said that socialism works only when implemented by Mussolini

I didn't, I answer to a retard question with an answer of the same level.
I said he improved it, and whatever people says every form of "modern socialism" took a lot from it.
Even "New Deal" was a copy of Italian economy of that time.
B-but K-keynes... he studied what was happening in his times and he explained it.

>Imperial Japan
>Fascist
Pick one. If anything postwar Japan was fascist until the 90s and the end of window guidance. In fact all the reforms that wartime fascists in Japan wanted ended up being done completely by the united states in 5 years.

Commies arent people

half of you fucking niggers don't even know the struggle living in a communist country, when you have the money, but there's nothing to buy, literally.

Mussolini on Anarchism.

You said that ''fascism is the only form of socialism that works'' meaning Mussolini is some amazing prophet who figured out how to implement socialism, like he is some pioneer who magically made socialism work where everyone else failed, and people can make socialism work too if they just read the holy texts from Mussolini.
Stop using buzzwords. When you actually think for a second and take the buzzwords at face value the entire meaning of what you're saying changes.
In reality Mussolini didn't do anything ground breaking, he wasn't some great thinker who ''made socialism work.'' Nothing Hitler or Japs did can be attributed to ''da fascists'' and Mussolini.

You're using liberal jewish buzzwords that exist only so that screaming ''nazi nazi nazi'' doesn't get too repetitive and you can have other buzzwords to alternate between.

>victim blaming

commies getting triggered because they don't like the source used because it hits their feelings

spain wasnt falangism, it was a sort of right wing pseudosocialist autoritarian and christian technocracy

Present day China is arguably a Fascist state pretending to be communist, and it's worth noting how long the Spanish and Portuguese systems lasted. Fascism will not end in mass death every time, but it does have flaws:

1. It tends to be very dependent on cults of personality. Once the great leader dies, the regime collapses soon after.

2. It's totalitarian, and is highly inefficient as a result. The centralization of decision making in societies tends to cause problems in a complex world.

Externalities are not an excuse. Any social system must be able to deal with the fact that it has competitors and enemies in the real world.

>Isn't ancient Rome with Caesar and all that shit some proto-fascism?

Mussolini was pretty explicit that fascism was totalitarian in nature, and I don;t think you can describe the Roman state as totalitarian. Also, many of the spiritual aspects of fascism were considered the province of religion in Roman times, not the state.

I am not even a communist, but Italians soldiers weared the paper shoes in Stalingrad and Japan military was WW-1 tier.

ROC was not Fascist, the Brazilian New State, while Fascist, was NOT the Integralists, and the Chilean NatSoc movement was never even in power
Wanna talk about how communism fails?

An ideology that alienates and calls for genocide of minorities will always fail. Some of you fascists and larpers can learn something from the left and how they exploit minorities to their needs

>Mussolini was pretty explicit that fascism was totalitarian in nature, and I don;t think you can describe the Roman state as totalitarian
but fascist italy was not a totalitarian state

Honesty is extremely important. When you lie to get what you want you end up with getting what you don't want. Hence why retarded leftists now genuinely believe niggers are great and they should do anything they can to cuck for them.
We already did this experiment on plebbit with the Donald cucks. We went from ''hey let's moderate ourselves and praise BASED black guys to get normies on our side'' to ''FUCK RACISM! I LOVE NIGGERS HAHA, PLEASE FUCK MY WIFE'' in months.