Pure unadulterated ahistorical BS. The Nazis did everything possible to avoid war within reason. All they wanted was the German land they lost in the First World War to be given back. There is no proof of Hitler wanting "Lebensraum" at all.
Britain making a massive white-knight crusade out of Germany's revanchist policy is what set the war off. Germany was constantly trying to make peace with the British yet Churchill would have none of it.
In addition, it's been proven that the USSR was preparing to invade Germany and Operation Barbarossa was a preemptive strike. Vox ignores that most Eastern European countries were actually allied with Germany. Croatia, Bulgaria, Hungary and Romania. This even including places like the Baltic states that provide huge numbers of men to the Waffen SS. Poland was even aligned with Germany just before the war and participated in the partitioning of Czechoslovakia! Apparently in order to be Pro-white it's just a matter of not being a Nationlist for a particular white country. Thus the retarded ant analogy he makes should be dismissed out of hand.
>"First, Hitler thought more highly of both the Asians and the Arabs than he did of most non-German whites."
Pure tripe. For starters, just because Hitler praised Islam's warrior theme doesn't mean he had any fondness of Arabs whatsoever. It's enormously telling that even though Germany occupied most of North Africa either through Vichy proxy or directly, the only two Muslim units of the SS were both formed from whites in Bosnia and Albania. For gods sake, Jews and Arabs are BOTH semites. Second, Hitler's only truly powerful ally was Japan, an Asian country. Pretty convenient for someone to praise their only powerful ally.
Vox was always a cucked beta trapped in a chad body
Jacob Mitchell
Theodore Beale BTFO!
Jaxson Sullivan
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Nicholas Adams
>no proof of lebensraum at all
I guess it's not in his book, or any of his speeches, and Hitler just invaded Russia for no reason then?
Justin Wright
>Vox Day is s Cuck
He's a white guy who claims to be a native American, which is the most pathetic kind of American there is.
Tyler Edwards
Hitler hated the two countries necessary to have Europe unified; France and Russia.
On the other hand, he had a soft spot for the Eternal Anglo, both of the UK and the USA.
He just followed Spengler's Deutsch supremacism, and add it antisemitism that's it.
Kevin Adams
So... this is the power of christian nationalism
Jason Flores
>Vox embracing his true self
Xavier Harris
>Hitler hated the two countries necessary to have Europe unified; France and Russia. >On the other hand, he had a soft spot for the Eternal Anglo, both of the UK and the USA.
This. Hitler became a victim of his own racism. People always argue against racism on a moral basis, but Hitlers shows that there is a argument based on "realpolitik" as well: just because the eternal Anglo was/is closer to you racially doesn't mean that he can be your ally. Europe could only survive if it allies with China and Iran and Syria and Russia against the evil US Empire.
Gavin Turner
>The Nazis did everything possible to avoid war within reason.
John Taylor
“I was not Hitler’s ally. As far as I and Hitler go, the answer is this. I declared in a speech in 1934, that we could never have any racial policy in Great Britain because we were running a multiracial Empire. The Germans were antisemites and I was not.”
INTERVIEWER: If Hitler had survived the war, would you have been in favour of his being tried and convicted for war crimes?
OSWALD MOSLEY: Yes, I think any one who has committed crimes should always be tried under whatever law exists.
INTERVIEWER: And do you think he should have been, or would have been, found guilty?
OSWALD MOSLEY: I have said again and again that the murder of the Jews in the concentration camps was an outrageous and vile crime. While I don’t think nearly so many were killed as are supposed to be killed, that doesn’t matter. Any crime, the murder of any defenceless prisoner, is a crime, and everybody must detest it.
INTERVIEWER: Sir Oswald, do you now, looking back with the hindsight and knowledge of history, blame the Jews or Hitler for the Second World War?
SIR OSWALD MOSLEY: I blame both: Hitler for driving east, before he had got a diplomatic arrangement with us; Jews, for gradually persuading us, or the British people or government, to do absurd things which were bound to result in war. I was against both mistakes.
Lol, shut the fuck up nazi cuck or we will Benes decree your ass into the middle of pacific ocean.
>Hitler dindu nuffin >muh Stalin attacked innocent Germany in the center of Stalingrad
And btw Germany historically always sided with shitskins.
Chase Campbell
If you like Adolf Hitler simply because he attacked Jews you are a fool. Many men were able to talk rationally in Britain about Jewish power and influence before Hitler, like G. K. Chesterton, Hilaire Beloc, and Sir Oswald Mosley; but because he indiscriminately and fanatically persecuted all Jews on the basis of race, instead of singling out individuals who were actual traitors to Germany, he created nothing but sympathy for them; and the death-blow to any rational discourse about the matter was his starting of the ruinous and devastating Second World War, which tainted anything even remotely to do with Hitler's ideology by association. It was because of Hitler's actions that even a man like Enoch Powell, who had fought the Nazis, was vilified as a Nazi for simply suggesting a halt to immigration and a scheme of voluntary repatriation in 1968.
Levi Sanders
Hitler should've known better. Just because you wanted German land back doesn't protect you from starting a geopolitical war and upsetting the balance of power in Europe. Hitler was lucky he got away with grabbing Czechoslovakia
Nathaniel Nelson
bump
Daniel Robinson
>And btw Germany historically always sided with shitskins. they still do
Asher Myers
>chad body Chads don't turn into fatbuilt neckjaws in their late 40's. Chads turn into square jawed silver foxes. At lest Vox can be happy that he looks more and more like an Indian as he ages--an albino Indian, but still an Indian.
David Jenkins
So many faggots.
Sage this thread already.
Caleb Peterson
> in light of the results of the Soviet occupation of Eastern Europe, it is clear that Communism, for all its tremendous flaws, is in practice more objectively pro-white than National Socialism.
Daniel Robinson
POLTARDS BTFO
Brandon Bell
He's the exact same tier of argument as his audience. He spouted the same drivel that the lowest pleb spouts when they first get here from leddit. These people are famous because they tell idiots what they already believe, confirm their idiocy, and pat them on the head for it. I don't know why anyone ever bothers with the likes of Vox or Molymeme except its the new sheeple mind-control to be a youtube ecelb. Anyone who tells the hard truth gets disappeared, and the biggest liars get promoted left and right even though no one seems to like them? This board is infected with like stage 2 or 3 of the eceleb cancer, and is almost full stage 4 normie as a result. We become more like lebbit every day.
Adrian Davis
That's a sad interview, watching him be forced to cuck in order to survive in post-war (((Britain))).
Leo Gray
He was a man of the highest principle who never went back on a single word he ever spoke. You know nothing of him. He was never a racialist fanatic like Hitler. You idolize a mass-murderer and mock at an ingenious revolutionary and hero who did everything in his power to prevent a war in which 25 million Europeans were killed.
Eli Russell
>someone said a thing POL BTFO No one BTFO's Sup Forums by tweeting or making inaccurate statements. The fact you need that pointed out is probably why you were dumb enough to be a leftist. You don't BTFO anyone here ever, you just post that everyday to our slowly inflating disgust. Your presence is like realizing you have cockroaches one morning because they're longing in your sink. It doesn't "BTFO me" to realize I have vermin, it just makes me buy a can of roach spray.
Chase Peterson
Ha!
Gabriel Hernandez
"Those the Nazi calls great men are only great at destroying humanity and its civilization, but the Nazi is careful to make certain those figures continue to be admired and idolized."
Camden Gutierrez
>Mein Kampf Historical context is very important. Bitter Hitler in jail in 1924 he has declared he is leaving politics is very different from supreme warlord of Germany and master of Europe in 1941. >Invaded Russia for no reason Oh there was a reason all right, but not the reason you would think. Without Germany's cousins backing you up you wouldn't be talking such tough shit cunt. Learn your fucking place.
Joseph Ramirez
Stormfags doing the old "lets you and him fight" play. Not your personal army.
Thomas Bennett
>Pure tripe Isn't tripe the second stomach of a cow
Elijah Jackson
Hitler looked at Slavs as subhuman and wanted to exterminate them and replace them with Germans. Fuck off dumbass.
Angel Martinez
>Pure unadulterated ahistorical BS. The Nazis did everything possible to avoid war within reason. All they wanted was the German land they lost in the First World War to be given back. There is no proof of Hitler wanting "Lebensraum" at all.
And yet they kept invading past the traditional german clay sooooo....yah.
>Britain making a massive white-knight crusade out of Germany's revanchist policy is what set the war off. Germany was constantly trying to make peace with the British yet Churchill would have none of it.
We all know there were jewish warmongers, but hitler went too far and it started the war. Deal with it.
>Vox ignores that most Eastern European countries were actually allied with Germany. Croatia, Bulgaria, Hungary and Romania. This even including places like the Baltic states that provide huge numbers of men to the Waffen SS. Poland was even aligned with Germany just before the war and participated in the partitioning of Czechoslovakia! Apparently in order to be Pro-white it's just a matter of not being a Nationlist for a particular white country. Thus the retarded ant analogy he makes should be dismissed out of hand.
You're ignoring the fact that hitler literally was going to kill millions of whites in central and eastern europe. Nazism is not pro-white. It is not right-wing. You are ignorant and saying 'nuh uh' isn't going to save your boy anglin from getting as thoroughly humiliated and greg johnson was.
Word on the street is that anglin is having to do basic research to get ready for the debate.
>not getting it.
>Raised enough money for a children's hospital charity and wore a tutu as it was the toll demanded.
You got him, shills. you got him.
It was set up by his literal fitness model blonde wife who has given him multiple children, one of whom is a high iq chad who is an athelete competing at a high level.
Meanwhile, anglin has to fly to southeast asia and pay for sex.
must sting, huh?
Austin Green
>wearing a dress so that some genetic misfits can live to reproduce
I bet you think thats a good thing
>His wife Flat chested and otherwise basic blonde woman, she is better looking than him so ill give him that
Owen King
>not getting it.
What's life like with a 90 iq?
Blake Fisher
>Invading past the traditional German clay Such as? >Hitler was going to kill millions of whites in Central and Eastern Europe Going with the meme Generalplan Ost I see. Have any evidence that any of the six alleged plans was actually concrete policy or that Hitler or even Himmler even saw them? Because you'd be quite the historian is you did find evidence of such a fact.
Aaron Morales
Ayy its thread again! Anglin got an std from a Pilipino tranny true story
Adrian Bailey
France wanted Alsace-Lorraine back after the humiliation of the Franco-Prussian war. Would France be justified in a lebensraum/getting land back policy?
Brayden Collins
You're an actual retard if you don't subscribe to the bulk of what Vox's world-view/methodology/strategy. If you aren't subscribing to Vox's common sense of a mature movement, then you're fucking us up. KYS.
Julian Carter
>Pure tripe. For starters, just because Hitler praised Islam's warrior theme doesn't mean he had any fondness of Arabs whatsoever. This. I dont need to have a disgusting poop chucking chimpanzee in my house if i want to enjoy some bananas
Brayden Lewis
That depends. Danzig was actually German and wanted to return to Germany. Alsace Lorraine is almost entirely German except for Metz which is French and the surrounding area. At the most France could claim that part back. The people in Alsace (And some of Lorraine) are in fact German.
Parker Kelly
One look at the guy should tell you that he is a piece of shit. Quit paying any mind to untermensch just because they spout some pro-white shit.
Austin Cooper
yah...that's his wife...in her 40's. Don't pretend you wouldn't be ecstatic if if you rolled over after 20 years of marriage to that.
try harder. Address yerrow fevah anglin having to fly to southeast asia to pay for sex.
I'll wait while you address your style guide.
Gavin Edwards
Alsaciens aren't Deustch, they are French with more Germanic roots, just like the part north of the Loire.
Adam Gray
His wife is an average blonde woman, nothing wrong with it and nothing impressive about it.
And I dislike Stormfags almost as much as I dislike christfags, Anglin can kill himself
You are a triggered idiot
Brody Nguyen
''n-nazis are the r-real SJWs, amirite? haha'' - Vox *Horseshoe* Day
Joseph Gray
>in her 40's Thanks for letting me know yet again that 3D women are inferior.
Jace Powell
to think hitler didn't consider slavs subhuman is fucking retarded and requires interdimenzional mental gymnastics. if you're a slav and like hitler you should unironically off yourself.
Jose Young
Say Sup Forums, do you know about the time when communists jews in Germany started a massive civil war?
Oh, you don't ?
Well it happened in 1918 and lasted nearly a year. Communist jews and an army of 2 million strong attempted to establish a communist nation in Germany shortly after the conclusion of WW1. Countless German lives were lost because of the jewish war machine. Picture related, it is the kinda weaponry the jews had at their disposal.
Now you understand why jews were treated the way they were in Nazi Germany? They had to be controlled or they would start ANOTHER civil war and kill millions of innocent German citizens.
just yesterday said horseshoe theory is bullshit catering to idiot centrists. shill smarter, not harder stormweenie.
Joseph Reed
Even Churchill spoke of all this in his article "Zionism versus Bolshevism."
"There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of Bolshevism and the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution by these international and for the most part atheistical Jews. It is certainly a very great one; it probably outweighs all others. With the notable exception of Lenin, the majority of the leading figures are Jews. Moreover, the principal inspiration and driving power comes from the Jewish leaders. Thus Tchitcherin, a pure Russian, is eclipsed by his nominal subordinate Litvinoff, and the influence of Russians like Bukharin or Lunacharski cannot be compared with the power of Trotsky, or of Zinovieff, the Dictator of the Red Citadel (Petrograd), or of Krassin or Radek -- all Jews. In the Soviet institutions the predominance of Jews is even more astonishing. And the prominent, if not indeed the principal, part in the system of terrorism applied by the Extraordinary Commissions for Combating Counter-Revolution has been taken by Jews, and in some notable cases by Jewesses."
What is your point? How does Jewish involvement in Communism justify mercilessly persecuting every last Jew regardless of whether he had actually done any wrong? How is it that Sir Oswald Mosley was able to be moderate enough to recognize Jewish power and influence, without being a fanatic racialist, eugenicist, enemy of free speech, and warmonger, yet your Adolf Hitler was not? See .
Adam Powell
By the way, where on earth did you get your idea from that "millions" of Germans died in the German Revolution? The death toll was about 20,000. The death toll of Hitler's war was 25 million European lives, the moral toll was Communism taking over all Europe.
Samuel Hughes
No where does it say that millions of Germans were killed.
Nathaniel Fisher
(((Vox Day)))
Chase Nguyen
What a sad little weasel.
Camden Foster
Really? You misspelled "a"?
Jack Lewis
nigga she looks 60
Nolan Martin
>virgin beta Hitler >Chad Mosley
Thomas Rodriguez
>For starters, just because Hitler praised Islam's warrior theme doesn't mean he had any fondness of Arabs whatsoever
Christian Green
Still it's pretty despicable that the royal family and other prominent public figures did nothing to intervene when the government started import them by the millions, or to speak out against the Jewish controls media before things got too out of hand
Evan Foster
germany was never allowed to rise because they became uncontrollable in the modernist view
Zachary Howard
It was this weening, half-measures Mosley that prevented Britain becoming fascist like Nazi Germany and now look at the state of Europe. Give the Jews an inch and they take a mile. Adolf Hitler understood this which is why he was so adamant. Ultimately it backfired, but is that the fault of Hitler or Mosley, King George, Lord Halifax and the rest of the royal family for acting like pussies? Hitler made this very clear in his speeches that Britain would never have conquered the British colonies in the heyday of empire had she remained ambivalent
Logan Wilson
How is it that Sir Oswald Mosley was able to be moderate enough to recognize Jewish power and influence, without being a fanatic racialist, eugenicist, enemy of free speech, and warmonger, yet your Adolf Hitler was not?
Youve got Adolf Hitler completely misunderstood. He knew the only way to rouse the German people and overthrow the corrupt Jewish politicians and financiers was with an iron fist and an iron will, and let's not forget - he came damn close. If you give a Jew an inch they will take a mile. That's the basis of their entire religion. Have you read the Talmud?
Carson Hughes
Yep. That's why they colonized Africa ...oh wait
Eff off alt-lite cucks. Read the damn Op again retards
Luis Cooper
Vox day is a limp-dick cucks
Gabriel Edwards
ewww, he organizes his books by height! LOL
Aiden Cook
When in history you retarded faggot? It wasn't the Germans that had millions of African and Muslim men in their armies in both world wars, it was the British, Russians and French
Ryan White
Vox populi has been a joke site for awhile now anyways
Cameron Brooks
Are you seriously contending that advocating for brutalizing and persecuting Jews would have swept the B. U. F to power? This godless and uncompromising attitude is exactly why Hitler lost. Realpolitik and the worship of brute force inevitably defeats its own object. Foolish mistake after foolish mistake was made on that principle. Providence itself deserts the deserters of justice. Bullying the Jews only made decent people around the world feel sorry for them. The only mistake Mosley ever made was getting as close to Hitler as he even did.
Jack Ross
There are only two wars Germans have fought where they had a non-white country as an ally, one was Turkey in WW1, and the other was Japan in WW2.
Neither of them are shitskin countries
Ian Allen
>Nazis were anti-white
So is this just context denial or what? Yeah, they were pro-german. This was at a time where nobody had to worry at all about shitskin immigration into white countries. The idea of whites all needing to band together to unite against even greater existential threats didn't occur until later. This is just intellectual dishonestly, and completely ignores the fact that you can extrapolate the context and ideals of national socialist germany and apply it to our race as a whole.
Justin Reed
"There is a Jewish problem; there is certainly a Jewish culture; and I am inclined to think that it really was too prevalent in Germany. For here we have the Hitlerites themselves, in plain words, saying they are a Chosen Race. Where could they have got that notion? Where could they even have got that phrase, except from the Jews. Hitlerism is almost entirely of Jewish origin." - G. K. Chesterton
Matthew Adams
>anglin please notice me >spencer please notice me
literally nobody cares about vox he's just a forced meme
Angel Bailey
>millions of communists and their opportunistic apologists*
Bentley Barnes
You wrote,
"They" [The Jews] "had to be controlled or they would start ANOTHER civil war and kill millions of innocent German citizens."
As if to say that "millions of German citizens" had already been killed the first time.
Charles Powell
What are you suggesting then?
Asher Allen
The savior of Evropa
Josiah Sanders
Not now and not ever
Jack Parker
Vox himself is an immature edgelord driven by an egotistical need to look big in front of his flock.
Acting like an adult would require him to admit he's not as smart as he's tricked you into believing.
Mason Ross
Doesn't say millions were killed and neither was it implied. You are reading to much into something that is not there.
What is clear is that a Jewish Bolshevist Army started a civil war in Germany right after WWI. That is what German soldiers came home to. They were strong enough to fight against the German Stahlhelm which consisted of 500,000 battle hardened German veterans of WWI.
The threat was real.
Connor Cruz
If this piece of shit is the savior, then we're all upper case Fucked.
Carter Hughes
>The Nazis did everything possible to avoid war within reason Literally dindu logic. God you people are the worst.
Jayden Miller
A Communist and Jewish minority was hardly going to conquer a three-million-strong brownshirt horde plus the entire German army, and all of it ruled over by a ruthless dictator with widespread popular support and the aid of a masterful propaganda minister who had brainwashed the population to a degree of blind and unerring fanaticism scarce witnessed in the history of man. The only organizations in the country not under direct Nazi control were the army and the church.
Liam Nguyen
The point he makes is that nazis burned and pillaged Europe in the name of German blood, not white blood.
Carson Ward
Did you even read my post?
Parker James
The context is that Nazis were pro-German, not pro-white.
Sebastian Torres
>Anti-slav >Anti-French >Anti-Anglo
The only people more anti-white than Nazis, are the self-hating white sjws.
>They wanted peace with Britain!
They said the same about Russia up until they invaded it.
None of this shit fucking matters though, you don't have to give a single fart in a hurricane about Hitler to be a white nationalist. Hitler is totally irrelevant to Alt-Right ideology.
Jaxon Russell
>you don't have to give a single fart in a hurricane about Hitler to be a white nationalist This, but you DO have give two farts about Hitler if you're National Socialist, which is completely different than white nationalist and alt right.
Jayden Morris
You're missing the forest for the trees. The same principles can be applied to whites in general. They were pro german, rather than pro-pan-white, because at the time, there was no need to discuss being pro-white, because the world was controlled by whites and we didn't have this notion of shitskins being equal to us yet. You're taking out all context
Michael Davis
The events he was describing were in 1919 though. And in the 1920's. Hitler did not have the power to stop them then, he could only fight like every other party.
Justin Peterson
You are literally brain dead. The Sturmabteilung didn't even exist until 1 year AFTER the German Civil War. The fact that they trried it on with 500,000 Stahlhelm shows that they were confident. Remember they got support from their brethren in Russia.
The point in question is the extreme and indiscriminate persecution of all Jews in Nazi Germany proper, not the '20s, before Hitler came to power. He wrote "Now you understand why jews were treated the way they were in Nazi Germany? They had to be controlled or they would start ANOTHER civil war."
Nicholas King
Houston Stewart Chamberlain's book of 1899 proclaiming that the Jews were responsible for literally all the white man's woes from the beginning of time was his Bible. You cannot blame everything on Communist insurrection. "British historian Sir Ian Kershaw, a biographer of Hitler, writes that "...Hitler drew heavily for his ideas from well known anti-Semitic tracts such as those by Houston Stewart Chamberlain, Adolf Wahrmund and especially, the arch-popularizer Theodor Fritsch (one of whose emphasis was the alleged sexual abuse of women by the Jews)."
Juan Bailey
Yes because a full scale civil war by Jewish Bolshevists had nothing to do with stoking the fire.
There wasn't a German or Pole in Europe who wasn't an anti-semite in the early 1900s. He was far from monolithic in his thinking.
The Civil War was the catalyst.
Jonathan Martin
lol you must be one of his fag commenters. piss off
Jack Brooks
>Turkey >not a shitskin nation
Is this where the 'Muhrica is majority white nation' delusion comes from?
>Without Germany's cousins backing you up you wouldn't be talking such tough shit cunt. Learn your fucking place.
Lol, shut the fuck up, or I'll jump into a rowboat go to conquer your drunk, 60 IQ nation just by using bitchslaps and rodent spray. Only one who would put up any kind of resistance would be a bunch of Chinese manlets, flailing around Tiger/Dragon style.
Robert Lopez
It depends on how you define antisemitism. As I point out here, many men before Hitler were able and willing to have a frank discussion about the Jews, but Hitler was hell-bent upon persecuting every single Jew he could get his hands on simply because he was born a Jew. He judged people not by their actions but by their birth alone. Events like Kristallnacht turned the world against him and created enormous sympathy for Jews, and if it ever was his object to point out any of the bad things which Jewish influence actually was effecting in the world he utterly defeated his own object. Decent people will always hate a bully.
