>“The allegory is that we really started working on the show in earnest around the time the election was happening,” showrunner Aaron Harberts told Entertainment Weekly. “The Klingons are going to help us really look at certain sides of ourselves and our country. Isolationism is a big theme. Racial purity is a big theme. The Klingons are not the enemy, but they do have a different view on things. It raises big questions: Should we let people in? Do we want to change? There’s also the question of just because you reach your hand out to someone, do they have to take it? Sometimes, they don’t want to take it. It’s been interesting to see how the times have become more of a mirror than we even thought they were going to be.”
>“North Korea is in our thoughts as we finish the series,” he says. “What began as a commentary on our own divided nation — in terms of Trump supporters and non-Trump supporters — has blown out to North Korea and how we’re right on the brink. [The U.S. is] actually right at the place where Starfleet finds itself in episode one and we couldn’t have anticipated that happening. But how do you end conflict when both sides have such strong opinions?”
we will have warp drive within 10 years so that means all of our governments will unify. justin trudeau is the ideal person to lead us and make contact with the ayys
Samuel Roberts
They'll deny that's what they meant but reading it, it really is pretty evident that it is..
Ayden Clark
More ammo to strengthen Trump's supporters against the crazy liberal lefties come time for the ballot boxes again.
Kayden Nelson
Star Trek has always been a socialist multicultural utopia, with all human failings externalized in "others". That's the lie it's always sold.
Asher Phillips
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The LA Times recently ran a story about the Child Exploitation Section of the Toronto Sex Crimes Unit, which contained a mind-boggling statistic: of the more than 100 offenders the unit has arrested over the last four years, “all but one” has been “a hard-core Trekkie.” Blogger Ernest Miller thought this claim was improbable. “I could go to a science fiction convention,” he explained “and be less likely to find that 99+ percent of the attendees were hard-core Trekkies.” While there may be quibbling about the exact numbers, the Toronto detectives claim that the connection is undeniable.
>In fact, Star Trek paraphernalia has so routinely been found at the homes of the pedophiles they’ve arrested that it has become a gruesome joke in the squad room. (On the wall, there is a Star Trek poster with the detectives’ faces replacing those of the crew members). This does not mean that watching Star Trek makes you a pedophile. It does mean that if you’re a pedophile, odds are you’ve watched a lot of Star Trek.
>Making it topical What a bunch of hacks. Where as TNG and DS9 looked at issues with a more general view, this show will have no rewatchability, if it will have any watchability in the first place. Trek usually has really weak first few seasons, so I do not think it will get more than 2 at best.
Jeremiah Howard
Nahh after Roddenberry died the writers started putting flaws into Starfleet and humans. Like Picard. He was on Ahab's quest just like Khan but the sassy black woman put him in his place. youtu.be/i1HeY7hHPkM
Aaron Long
WOW, NOBODY IN ENTERTAINMENT HAS BEEN BRAVE ENOUGH TO MAKE FUN OF TRUMP SUPPORTERS BEFORE, THIS IS GROUNDBREAKING STUFF HERE!!!!
Luis Stewart
Star trek is not communistic. It's federal socialist expansionist under the guise of exploration.
Ayden Johnson
I AM THE SENATE
Joseph Johnson
>federal socialist expansionist that's fucking communism ya fucking moron
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Easton Johnson
AAAUUUUUUURRRRGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH
Austin Cox
aren't they jumping time periods between seasons? it won't have the time to become good, it's orville or bust at this point
Adam Barnes
Give me The Empire any day. The Emperor did nothing wrong.
Benjamin Wood
kidfucking fags are utopian fantasists, I guess I mean imagine what fun a pedo could have with a holodeck
Joseph Allen
Well, most of the people involved with the show are Jews, and the creator, though a gentile, is essentially a communist who wanted to depict a Utopian socialist society in space.
Of course they're diddlers.
Cameron Martin
Imagine what fun a pedo could have if he fused with the ship computer.
Sebastian Gomez
>Where as TNG and DS9 looked at issues with a more general view
They made it more kind of philosophical and touched on historical issues too. This thing will end up just pushing a bunch of contemporary liberal politics and be as subtle as a mallet about it.
Austin James
Most retarded thing I have read all day.
Michael Stewart
>I do not think it will get more than 2 at best Likely because it's going to be very heavily pirated, too. CBS has a Netflix-like service that people will have to use to catch up on episodes, but you have to pay for it (monthly) AND it also has ads. Very backward thinking.
Kevin Watson
Do they fucking realize that Klingons are pretty much the ballest and most recognized part of Star Trek?
People like them motherfuckers so much they learn thier language for fuck sake.
Why are leftist so fucking stupid.
Nicholas Garcia
This shit is why every Star Trek work made after Gene Roddenberry's death is pure cancer.
And yes, I'm including much of TNG in there; the cancer absolutely began flourishing after Roddenberry died.
Brayden Lopez
Do they really want to piss off half the country?
do they hate money that much?
Ayden Bennett
Stop fucking crying you big stupid baby
Grayson Smith
Libs live in a bubble. They'll outright blackface half the US and think it's clever and interesting.
Dominic Kelly
Q'apla!
Eli Young
"Tickle us, do we not laugh? Prick us, do we not bleed? Wrong us, shall we not revenge?"
Grayson Cook
Star Trek is fucking retarded SJW bullshit.
Anthony Stewart
So, how should this backfire? Previously, Klingon meant black people for a while. Make Q'uonos Great Again?
Henry Lewis
Klingon's rock, so I endorse it. they also modeled the ferengi after kikes, so QAPLA'
Ethan Scott
>implying leftists watch star trek
Mason Carter
If you want to see something funny, check out the old Star Treks 'Turnabout Intruder'. It's a complete piss-take on feminism.
Brandon Gonzalez
shit Sop SoH commie QIp fags. shit Sop DIvI'.
Samuel Robinson
Poztrek, The Search for AIDS.
Joseph Sanchez
If alien races enslave us, we win.
Isaiah Russell
Star Trek is to the left what Ayn Rand novels are to the right. Completely fictional imaginings that their supports think could be real one day.
Levi Gomez
>be born frank err sheev palpatine >somehow escape the baby snatching buddhist cultists who test everyone's blood for mtDNA err midichlorians to raise them to be emotionless limb removers >get converted by a negro err gungan named darth jar jar err plageuis the wise to an officially persecuted religion >get involved in politics >orchestrate a blockade of your home planet in a false flag for sympathy >jedi "diplomats" fuck it up and end up forcing the blockade to become a nearly bloodless invasion >jedi kill your innocent apprentice because of his religious beliefs >get elected supreme chancellor >orchestrate all the corporations into a stupid group of secessionists >baby snatching limb removers are more than happy to be generals in a war despite their "peaceful" beliefs >streamline the process and get emergency powers >cleanse the republic of useless bureacrats and corruption >destroy the evil corporations corruptibg the galaxy >baby snatchers find out your religion >baby snatchers attempt to assassinate the democratically elected fuehrer err supreme reichkanzler err chancellor >win >destroy the evil baby snatchers >bring peace and order to your new empire >peace for twenty years >baby snatchers snatch a teenaged son of the child they snatched that you saved >he personally causes millions of deaths and terrible destruction >you choose to rightfully execute him for treason under the laws of the empire >his dad kills you wtf
Josiah Richardson
aaaaaaaand its already cancelled
Camden Ward
this. It isn't anything new. Early episodes of Next Generation were overtly communist, for example
Jack Stewart
That's best in the orignial Klingon.
Josiah Hughes
>watch my show. I will say anything... just please.. I need money.
Adam Parker
>Klingons >Let people in What?
Charles Davis
We need breathing room!
Landon Bell
so you are saying that the first season of tng is the best one?
Robert Howard
Too bad nobody is going to watch it.
Nicholas Gray
well thats it then. I'm boycotting it. Its going to suck shit anyway. this will save me the heartache.
Isaiah Hill
Remember when Tasha Yar seduces Data? It's soooooooo fucking cringeworthy.
Jason Cooper
What, are you saying it wasn't?
Jacob Sanders
That was the episode where they were all wasted. It had a sense of humour sometimes.
Andrew Martin
The Klingons are the only good part of StD.
Elijah Moore
Star Trek has always been campy as fuck, that's part of what makes it fun.
TV takes itself too serious, just like libtards, that's never a good thing.
Jayden Hernandez
It was more in sync with what Roddenberry wanted, which was basically a new TOS. The problem is they hit their stride after Roddenberry was gone.
So to answer your question, I think S2 or S3 are the best, but I don't think S1 is worse than S5 or later. I definitely consider S7 the worst by a long shot.
Alexander Walker
Shaka, when the walls fell.
Ayden Allen
She was also in a black gangbang.
Nathan Williams
>Star Trek has always been campy as fuck
Now you mention it, I think this is what made the earlier series work, and one of the things that made Enterprise into a failure. If the new series tries to make itself into BSG then it'll be lucky to go more than one season.
Andrew Garcia
also raped by romulans in another dimenstion
Xavier Foster
>scientists have revealed what the average Enterprise crew member will look like in 2400, and it's beautiful
Carter Myers
because everything is created by energy which is obtained for free
Michael Rivera
PoPo must have been pretty conflicted about running such a story.
Parker Rogers
Plus all those rape gangs on her home world. She was a degenerate slut. No wonder she was blacked to death by Tarman.
Caleb Walker
already looking forward to the klingon speaking libtards with cardboard glued to their foreheads lashing out
Tyler Taylor
Someone beloved by many Trekkies is currently rolling in his grave.
Charles Carter
>starting putting flaws into Starfleet
Of course Starfleet has always been filled with flaws. How the FUCK could anyone believe this is true? It wasn't until Roddenberry died that Starfleet got recast as this perfect institution with the Evil Within exorcised to Space CIA.
No seriously: every fucking time, EVERY FUCKING TIME there is contact with Starfleet and the Enterprise in TNG or TOS, the guest stars are either victims or villains.
In TNG, there will be a dopy little Miranda ship if Starfleet is in victim role, and an Excelsior if Starfleet is in villain role. Unless they're purely in a victim role, then Starfleet is portrayed as something straight from the twilight zone or a dystopian sci fi book.
Its not til DS9 that Starfleet is portrayed as a goody goody place with the bad elements contained in Space CIA.
Jason Hill
Yes, absolutely. One of my greatest criticisms of Enterprise was along these lines; the shit where they basically retcon everything that was inconsistent between TOS/TNG, as well as pretty much everything else that was campy in the old series. Like that shit about Klingon head plates and some-fucking-how tying it into giving Brent Spiner a role.
It's also why I don't like the TNG motion pictures generally: They took what was campy and fun space exploration and turned it into gritty action heroes. You see this especially from Insurrection onwards. Even the way shit is filmed is biased towards making the scenes look grittier.
Jace Russell
Is every single writer in Hollywood a complete hack?
I can't really put my finger on it (though I'm sure the nerds have indexed every second of film) but as the series went on, they became less and less 'fun': just more dramatic and dark, less lighter episodes or tone. Too much "the human condition! woe!" Which is fine, but they you're at risk of taking yourself too serious. It's good to breathe sometimes and remember it's all just spandex in space, like having the ship get flooded with Tribbles.
Asher Campbell
Who the fuck still watches Star Trek anyway? everything after The Next Generation was mediocre if not outright shitty
William Young
So are they ever going to try and jump start Stargate again?
Hudson Russell
>It's also why I don't like the TNG motion pictures generally: They took what was campy and fun space exploration and turned it into gritty action heroes. You see this especially from Insurrection onwards.
Red Letter Media did a Mr Plinkett review of Insurrection that ripped on it for this. It's worth a watch if you haven't seen it.
Sebastian Parker
AMAZING
John Reyes
Temba, his arms wide
Elijah Kelly
>taking the opinions of sellouts Who cares what they think?
Elijah King
>Blacks are Trump supporters. Goddamn. This timeline keeps phase shifting. Next you'll tell me it wasn't the Bernie Stain Bears.
David Ward
>Of course Starfleet has always been filled with flaws. How the FUCK could anyone believe this is true? It wasn't until Roddenberry died that Starfleet got recast as this perfect institution with the Evil Within exorcised to Space CIA.
You're not supposed to suspend total disbelief. TOS was a space opera, and as such the roles are supposed to be fairly die-cast.
The real silliness is trying to turn Star Trek into something hard-hitting or groundbreaking just by periodically putting the characters into morally-ambiguous situations. You don't get this super deep kino shit just by adding moral ambiguity. You just get something that's half-assed and does both normal entertainment and thought provocation poorly.
Aiden Sanders
This needs a Loss edit.
Brayden Lee
nobody cares about modern day star trek.
Christopher Flores
Roddenberry's vision was retarded. DS9 was the best trek ever was.
The Federation was never more "Human" than when it was revealed that it was more like a cult than anyone wanted to admit, and even had their own version of the Obsidian Order.
Samuel Bennett
QUESTION FOR PEOPLE WHO WATCHED ENTERPRISE AND DS9
Do you think that they somehow visited the Foudner Homeworld in Enterprise? The shapeshifting slugbeasts are hunted for sport, and the Founders make reference to how they were hunted for sport. The planet is also untethered to any given star in both cases, though how it could wind up in the Delta Quadrant is anyone's guess.
Nicholas Flores
Zinda, his face black, his eyes red
Levi Turner
like Voyager or hate it but it gave the most attention to borg and I especially enjoyed the Cenobite-esque portrayal, esp when it was revealed that you're fully aware and not sedated when your parts are being surgically removed
Kevin Diaz
>DS9 was the best trek ever was.
Their success with Trials and Tribbleations is why Enterprise was fucking horrible and they started doing retcon bullshit.
Adam Martinez
I missed that bit, but clumsily trying to tie itself to another Star Trek series while leaving a gigantic hole in the plot sounds exactly like Enterprise.
Jacob Campbell
Why should I care? The money isn't going to Buzzfeed, mission accomplished. I could give a rats ass if Iceland makes a few pennies.
Aaron Lee
It's mainly dependent on specific episodes or story arcs. I don't care for Voyager much but the Year of Hell still was pretty interesting even if it's a purely nonsensical premise. The problem with this new stuff is it's based on the alternate timeline movies and sounds to be based on current events rather than all around issues we face as a species.
Adrian Wright
>try to find screenshots from the planet of black people episode (code of honor) >get this
Isaiah Miller
I liked the Borg in TNG, but I really got annoyed with the VOY approach to the Borg. They stopped being this looming menace to all civilizations and got turned into another generic enemy race.
This is another reason why I hate DS9 and ENT: More and more enemy space empires that nobody ever cared about before.
Jonathan Turner
Well that identity politics shit will ruin the Klingons
>DS9 was the best trek ever was.
This
Cooper Jenkins
How.. how did they sell out?
Xavier Allen
People who really love Star Wars seems like cucks, while Alien and Predator fans like BDSM?
Liam Thomas
Sarah Silverman. Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Josiah Sanders
Again, I don't understand. Starfleet got MORE idealized over time, not less -- and almost entirely this was during DS9.
Star Trek got more CONTINUITY during DS9, but Starfleet ceased being a hellish dystopia in DS9.
Adam Bell
Problem is they made the Borg weak again. I don't know what the trope is called, but it's when you first introduce an unstoppable enemy, and a season or two later, you're kicking his ass without a second thought, so the writers have to introduce an EVEN GREATER AND MORE UNSTOPPABLE FOE! OH NO! and repeat the cycle again
When the Borg were first introduced they were fucking terrifying: completely weird and unstoppable menace, a single Cube ship is gigantic and wiped out an entire Federation Fleet. You're saying they have thousands of these?!?!
[fast forward to Voyager final season]: "yeah, just gonna blow up the entire unimatrix, meh"
Hence why they introduced 8472. Sometimes, it's better to show less and leave the audience wonder. That's why you also should never really show the monster in a horror movie.
Nolan Young
Patreon. They loved The Force Awakens, Gravity, Interstellar, they really loved Arrival, and they even liked Rogue One.
They are complete and utter sellouts. Their "parody hate videos" are just empty pandering with no real teeth. Too many shekels might be lost with honesty.
Jack Reyes
The Borg turned Wolf 359 into Sheep 359
Kayden Fisher
>Star Trek got more CONTINUITY during DS9, but Starfleet ceased being a hellish dystopia in DS9.
Section 31 used one of their people to commit genocide.
Michael Wilson
>When the Borg were first introduced they were fucking terrifying: completely weird and unstoppable menace, a single Cube ship is gigantic and wiped out an entire Federation Fleet. You're saying they have thousands of these?!?!
Yeah. S4 of TNG ended when I was about seven. I had nightmares about the Borg.