Just returned from the US

just returned from the US

every single restaurant experience:

>order food
>waiter brings food
>ask to pay with a card
>tip options appears on the card machine
>press "no"
>waiter looks at me with disgust
>pay
>leave
>never come back to the same restaurant again

I stayed in New York for 7 days, and I had to go to 14 different restaurants because breakfast was included in my hotel.

what the fuck is wrong with Americans? When will this tipping bullshit stop? You are literally PAYING someone to do the job for which they ALREADY RECEIVE SALARY.

what the fucking fuck?

>b-but if you like the service u should tip

NO YOU FUCKING DUMB FUCK

YOU ARE PAID FOR THIS SHIT JOB THAT YOU CHOSE TO DO
YOU ARE NOT ENTITLED TO ANYTHING MORE THAN WHAT YOU ALREADY GET

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>HOW DARE YOU GIVE MONEY TO THE WORKER DIRECTLY
>HOW WILL GOLDSTEIN FEED HIS BUSINESS!?

Preach it, OP, It's pretty kikey

fpbp

those waiters are basically libtard commies so good you didn't tip them

Don't tip than you dumb cunt.

>Norwegian doesn't know paying electronically the waiter doesn't get the tip directly and makes a smug Sup Forums post

When firefighters rescue you, do you have to tip them as well?

Whats pol's opinion on tipping delivery drivers? I usually don't tip servers for walking my food twenty feet from the kitchen but I will tip if my ass is to lazy to get carryout.

>visit america
>go to the diverse shit hole known as jew york

WHY!?

Firefighters are even worse because you pay them through taxes and most people will never utilize their services.

If you are a taxpayer, you are already paying that guy.

You should pay the fire fighter directly instaed of having to pay a monthly fee to the moloch where 99% go into debt payback for gibs credits

Better than the racially homogeneous Atlanta I suppose.

Dosn't tipping only make sense if it's a once in a while thing for good service? If it's expected all the time than it's just a hidden charge basically

>what the fuck is wrong with Americans?
Welcome to the wonderful world of American entitlement
>be my sister
>makes over $20 an hr at extremely low tax rate for being server
>complains her "tips are too small"
>starts giving shitty service
>tell her that's a recipe for bad business
>she say she doesn't care, only gonna give good service to good tippers
>bar bulldozed last year
>still doesn't make the connection

don't be a miser faggit

just coz you are a commie fag.. doesn't mean everyone is

In the US tipped workers make much less money per hour usually. There's actually a lower minimum wage for them. They rely on the tips.

Not saying it's a good system but that's why they're pissed.

yes
dol.gov/general/topic/wages/hazardpay

Tip or don't tip. Why can't you mouthbreathers decide for yourselves?

Maybe goldstein would have to pay his workers better if if he wanted to keep them if most of their salary wasn't being covered by tips, genius.

If you eat somewhere and the staff doesn't make you feel inclined to tip on your own due to excellent service you are going to the wrong fucking restaurants.

Waiters literally earn $2.65/hour. I agree that tipping is bullshit and should be priced in to the product/service. But don't come here without learning the local customs you dumb piece of shit. Fuck off back home and never come here again

>t. used to be a waiter

Yes they do.
t. Waiter for 5 years,

you sound like a kike. U.S.A. is not social democratic Denmark, their wage is shit over there

Easy to say when you live in a country where waiters and waitresses actually make decent wages

we tip because were not poor niggers. hit up a soup kitchen if you cant afford a few more dollars when you eat out.

Don't come back, you cheap fuck. Tipping helps reward good service.

That was the case in the 90s. Min wage laws changed recently, grandpa.

Most states require servers to be paid min wage regardless.

It's because waiters and servers make $2/hr because their incomes are supposed to be entirely made up by tips

Shitty? Yes
Can I personally do anything? No
Will I continue to tip? Yes, this person has a life and I understand their situation

>t. Waiter for 5 years,
LOL AT YOUR LIFE

>WHY DOESN'T GOLDSTEIN PAY ME REGULARLY
>MAKING PEOPLE OVERPAY EVERY ITEM AND SERVICE IS COMMON COURTESY
>IT'S YOUR FAULT

It is illegal for any employee in the US to make less than the state's minimum wage. Occupation is irrelevant.

Because being a waiter in America AND canada means you do half the salary because tipping is expected. Even worse if you work in a kike place where you have to split the tips you received with everyone else

It's create self-entitled piece of shit that can't comprehend that some people can't tip well because they are poor

i can report, other entry level positions exist in the united states, and in the food industry that has proven to be not true consistently.

>YOU ARE PAID FOR THIS SHIT JOB
not really. a lot of restaurants (even high end fancy places) pay waiters and other tipped staff far less than the minimum wage, which they're allowed to do if tips make it more than minimum wage.

in other words, the tips are basically their pay. their actual hourly rate usually is just there to cover taxes.

have you faggots seriously never worked in a restaurant?

>oh fucking no how horrible.
>god help us.
The money in my pocket is better because of tips.
Eat a dick leaf.
Tip if you want. If we can't make good money we'll go someplace else.

This %1000
Poor whites are decent enough to not go out. Niggers take pride in being poor. OP is a nig

As recently as 5 years ago in Michigan, that was my hourly wage. I used to get paychecks that were $0 from my employer

>being poor
>eating out anyway

>I want (((someone))) else to determine the value of the service I received

direct feedback, my dense danish friend.

4pbp

I don't tip carry out. I don't tip drivers much, like 10%.

I tip mostly because I don't want my food fucked with if I come back.

3 meals a day

It put me through college and I made $23/hr
Now I weld for Shell and make $45/hr
Lol, oh my life is just
>horrible

except vapid, good looking women who barely work behind the counter make a killing off it

It's a fucked up system for paying people, but it's the fucked up system of the place you chose to go. What would you say about an American that went to Europe and didn't want to play by the rules that everyone had agreed to a long time before?

They don't receive a salary, they literally get a couple of dollars an hour. If you're a shit tipper your service will be shit. It equalizes out to the amount you'd pay for a meal anyway.

Now take off your fedora for a sec and read very carefully.

>tipping is intended to make you look good in front of a date or clients

this needs to be fucking legislated and tipping culture needs to be fucking banned. it creates to much of a disparity between foh and boh wages where cooks below cdp do not get a liveable wage and servers gain a huge sense of entitlement because thwy will go above and beyond for know good tippers and give sub par to new customers or bad tippers. ontop of that the reason why the govt needa to step in is because everyone who tries to start up a non gratuity restaurant either reverds back to tipping or closes down due to the fact servers leave for a restaurants they can pull in 200$+ cash on a friday untaxed since they dont report in on there incomes

BULLSHIT

delivery drivers should not get a fucking percentage, that's fucking bullshit they've been spreading online.

fucking 3-6 dollars, unless it's like more than 2 pizzas.

It's not hidden. Here, you know going in you have to tip. If you don't want to tip, just go to McNiggers.

>YOU ARE PAID FOR THIS SHIT JOB THAT YOU CHOSE TO DO
>YOU ARE NOT ENTITLED TO ANYTHING MORE THAN WHAT YOU ALREADY GET
What's it like to get this triggered over something you don't do and aren't required to do?

The way it works is that wait staff are exempt from the federal minimum wage because they were traditionally tipped.
So now they make ~$3/hr and if they aren't tipped up to minimum wage their employer makes up the difference.
The really excellent wait staff can make 2-300 a night in tips though.

Hot/nice girl deserving of tip = tip yes

The employer is required by law to bring them to the normal min wage if their tipped wage + tips does not do it for them.

Try harder.

If it's tough, use the rule my father taught me...
base your tip on ass quality.

OP
youtu.be/enJwYaeolXc

This OP. Why didn't you go to the middle of buttfuck nowhere Wyoming. That's real America.

Not kidding btw.

If tipping was banned, you would pay more for food. Except you would have no monetary say in the waiter's service, so you would get much shitter service across the board. Also rich people tip a lot, so you would end up paying much more for food because now everyone pays equally.

This guy gets it

that literally never happens thought
plus they will let go over the server 99% of the time if she cant make up the disparity in tips

There are laws put into place to circumvent that specifically for servers.

well they should take it up with their manager then

>t. Waiter for 5 years,
and you haven't become an hero yet?

youtube.com/watch?v=q_vivC7c_1k

Nope

Yes, the business is supposed to make the difference if the tips don't add up to minimum wage, but good luck getting them to do that.
Also, minimum wage is garbage in NYC. You couldn't even afford to live on the street.

Then people would stop eating out.
Which is really a win win.

Like what?

It's just the culture here.

YOU are the fucking degenerate nigger to come here and think you are so special you get to just ignore customs.

Tipping isnt a very good system I agree, but a lot of the service industry is able to make good money because of it and if it were to be done away with the food would increase in price anyway.

Stop being a fucking nigger and tip the people serving you in America wtf.

I've delivered pizza for 3 years and in those years, I can deduct that the only people who don't tip are either:

>niggers
>college kids

So people here who say they don't tip are either niggers or college kids.

>Letting your dick control your wallet
Pathetic.

lol poor Johan. I always tip, it makes by bank account log look nice.

In canuckistan I make as much as they do, but without tip, and while I work my ass off outside they walk around carrying plates and smiling. Must be difficult.

>Only Jews own businesses
>Only Jews own restaurants
Are you sure you aren't just a communist?
Kys

They uatta shoot people like you.

waiters in the US aren't remotely getting paid as much as in Europe
they actually rely on tips to make the paycheck worth their while
will i always tip based on service its usually at least 20% in the US and 10% in Europe

How about anti tip fags don't eat out, and everyone else just enjoys themselves.

The waitress's waiter make like 2--4 dollars an hour they live on tips that were their wgae comes from you fucking spaz

>It's just the culture here.
Doesn't make it acceptable. Same with your genital mutilation and voodoo medicine.
Stop doing shit like that and at least pretend you're a first world nation.

First digit plus 2 you cheat faggot. I'd be more specific, but you're never going to pay for triple digit deliveries anyway.

From what I'm told, as long as you leave $3 your driver won't memorize your address. Less than that it depends how spiteful they are. Also, if you ever have friends that wonder why their food is late / shitty, its because drivers are actively avoiding them for better customers.

removing gratuities only adds around 10%-12% on average back onto your menu price to pay servers a good portion over minimum wage. also its good for team moral and setting standards on the floor since they cant really pick and choose who to give bad service too. on top of that as for teamwork there is no more hoarding tables or fighting over good regulars since servers will treat the entire floor like 1 shared responsibility since it would be in everyones best interest to do so

>minimum wage is garbage and the server expects you to tip, therefore you should tip
What the minimum wage is is irrelevant. What the waiter expects, just because it's commonplace and they are spoiled, does not obligate me to oblige them. They are an asshole if they think otherwise.

>going to another country
>not respecting their customs
why? stay home

Hush your mouth. Atlanta is the best. It's and international city run by black people so the based tech companies are here, the food is good, the music is good, and strip clubs everywhere so regular women give it up quicker (because competition is fierce)

What's not to love about Atlanta? Besides slack jawed yokels taking their damn time doing fucking anything, that is.

>I used to get paychecks that were $0 from my employer
That's only if your tips cover the minimum wage, you dumb hick. Learn your own country's federal law.

dol.gov/whd/regs/compliance/hrg.htm
dol.gov/whd/regs/compliance/whdfs15.pdf

>If an employee’s tips combined with the employer’s direct wages of at least $2.13 an hour do not equal the minimum hourly wage, the employer must make up the difference

Tips are shared, moron.

i hate the food industry, the food industry is cancer.

t. 18yrs working in it on all levels

kek
youtu.be/enJwYaeolXc

>visit another country
>refuse to follow local customs
>bitch about experience on Sup Forums

Honestly, you sound like a prick.

That's how our economy is set up.

Servers and bar tenders only make like $5 an hour, maybe $10 in NYC.

There's a lot of incentives for small businesses to do this for tax purposes. Its so that its worth someone's time and money to go out and start a restaurant. The food business is a terrible business. There's not a lot of money in it and the competition is tough.


That's why you tip, so the customer is in charge of what they think their server should be paid.

Not tipping is a dick move and shows you don't care about them

>food costs 15% less
>Customer expected to pay 10-20% directly to the waiter depending on how good a job they did
>Customer pays the same amount and the worker has a direct incentive to be nice and do a good job
>Somehow a bad thing
People who don't tip are just cheap assholes taking advantage of the system

Social "democratic" denmark is a failed state just the US becuase of rampant socialism, all done for the jews

Literally illegal, and also bullshit. If you don't make minimum wage from tips, they are legally obligated to pay you the difference.

Wow you sure are autistic if you think comparing tipping and genital mutilation are the same thing.

Only poor niggers get upset about tipping. If you don't want to tip then don't fucking eat out in America. Simple as that faggot.

>Burger actually believe this.

Then they can work at McDonalds at a real minimum wage job.

Its a tax system.
You don't pay the employee, you pay the establishment for the benefit of not having cum or other bodily fluids in your food.
Worked at a restaurant a few years back and the amount of shit you see waiters put in people's food is astonishing.

>Incentivising laziness
Commie.