Listen to pol when pol says university is a meme full of sjws and (((them)))

>listen to pol when pol says university is a meme full of sjws and (((them)))
>am 23 now and see my peers who went to university graduating and getting really nice jobs
>acquaintance who I am definitely smarter than just landed a job at a software company for 90k at 22
>is fucking too late for me to go to university
fuck you pol

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No, your supposed to go in and slowly redpill anyone you like their, not BTFO of College
>2D Chess

>money is more important than time

you must be stupid

When Sup Forums said to skip university, they meant "go learn a valuable trade instead". Computer networking doesn't need a degree, just loads of certs. Carpentry doesn't need a degree, just an apprenticeship so you can learn shit. Plumbing. Gardening. Dockwork. Locksmithing. basic Accounting. You know what I mean.

Instead of going to uni, you just sat on your fat hands for 4 years?

>you must be stupid
well, he is on Sup Forums so...

If they were minorities/women then they're getting jobs because of their skin color/vagina, not because of their education. Don't blame us for your country's shitty system.

they're white and asians

so his time is also not important.

I understand :/

>canadian wastes his youth
>blames Sup Forums

>someone has a better job, you're still so sure you're smarter than them

Woweeeee I wonder what your specified problem is. Perhaps being up your own ass.

>leaf

Correction.


YOU SEE THEIR HIGHLIGHT REELS ON FACEBOOK AND NONE OF THEIR BEHIND THE SCENES.

KYS SHILL

It's never to late to go to uni goy

Don't feel so bad. I'm 24 and I never went to college. I'm not a meet tho, I stopped living with my parents almost 4 years ago. I also used to live with my gf for 2 years.

Learning to code is basically cheating at life.

150k starting in my area.

also fucking this
all you faggots get off social media if not shitposting

Neet**

>is 23
>knows a software developer that you don't know what word to describe as
>acquaintance
Is that you Laurence? Please do go back to university and pick something helpful to your already well established career, you should go to university strictly for the information.

>who I am definitely smarter than
Feels like Laurence...

how does one learn to code? I need a point in the right direction.

University or college?

>fell for the trades meme
>make 45k starting meanwhile uni grads are making 70-90k starting

>Canadian

Nobody takes a single word you people post seriously, words just don't mean anything with that flag attached.
You could be typing 'unununununu muk muk an da poo' and it would have the same effect.

Well, STEM is an exception if you have the aptitude for any of it. Just pick something you can make money at.

Are you saying that you really didn't go to college because of Sup Forums? What did you decide to do instead?

This is my consensus too. Unless you're a top tier guy who is already established in the trades you're going to be no better than a minimum wagecuck.

Nah, 23 is perfect. Im 23 and going back and loving it. None of that bullshit SJW stuff because the tide has turned. I unironically have an American National Govt class full of based niggers who live Trump. And I live in Illinois which is basically the most unpredictably average state in the nation (obligatory fuck Chicago though). It's essentially a small sample of the every day average American and how they sway.

Anyways, now that I watched my friends put themselves in debt 10's, if not 100's, of thousands of dollars in debt. By going to a community college for two years for my associates and then transferring to a ''real'' university I've spent 1/10th their cost for the same degree. And in half the time because I take classes year round, including 1-2-3 in the summer just to keep inching forward.

23 couldn't be a better age to do this anons. Think of all the business and political opportunities that will present themselves over the next 8 years, at least.

Keep up that good fight and 14/88, 14/76

>listen to the don't go to uni meme
>doesn't listen to the "get a trade instead" portion of the meme
>end up with no qualification instead

How do you JUST fuck your life up that hard?

nice normie advice retard

I don't appreciate your posts.

Why would it be to late at 23?

Not all STEM, I assure you. At least not the science. I'm unemployed with a bio degree.

Only go to Uni if you're passionate about your major

If not than you're going to end up hating your life even if you're making good money

Leaf, that's pretty good advice. Fear day of rake. 1488. That is all.

You just seem like someone I know, I've decided you're actually not.

Go to uni for skills or qualifications, but never neither. If you already have a career, like my friend, the best degree is history/philosophy. Otherwise, literally any STEM is a good qualification, just remember you're absolutely trading future success for current boredom.

In OPs case, probably resentment. In my friends case, a career that's recently looked like its slowed a bit.

Find a basic guide on Youtube or just google: "How to code" and start coding. Literally just start doing it and you will learn over time.

>When Sup Forums said to skip university, they meant "go learn a valuable trade instead".

This.

I dropped out of high school no uni or collage. Am a computer repair specialist self-employed. So don't lie to your self.

codecademy

why hire a 26/27 year old for the same position as a 22 year old?

Just tell people you are 22 years old.

You start by reading barcodes on Cornflake packets down at the supermarket. It doesn't matter if you can't remember them all, you can write some of them down with a pad and a pen.

>20
>dropped out
>got no-skill job at farm
>work 40-hr weeks
>48k/yr starting salary
>paid vacations
>getting experience building
>getting experience operating equipment
>getting experience in animal care
>getting experience in practical math milling feed
>only downside is the odd time you have to stand in shit in your rubber boots
>any future employer will see i was willing to stand in shit in my rubber boots for the sake of work
>making ridiculous cash, no gf no kid only living expenses
>have an in to aquaculture courses
>farm owners come to school to interview students
>100% of students find jobs before graduating
>pussy uni graduates who worked summer flipping burgers and want to start mid-level jobs in their field unemployed
Shut your goddamn whinebox and contribute. Swing a fucking hammer if no one else will take you.

That's absolute bollocks.
There's no difference there for an employer.
Leaf LARP.

>see my peers who went to university graduating and getting really nice jobs
try something believable you fucking leaf, the only people getting jobs through uni in this cucktry are (((international))) students from rich foreign families, all the other specialized work goes to TFWs for McDonald's wages.

? I'm talking about university graduates finishing their electrical/computer/software engineering degrees

>computer/software engineering
yes, things done by Indians who need not even enter the country and become subject to our labour laws to do the job.

If you have even a modicum of intelligence, you do not spend your summers flipping burgers but instead working internships in a relevant field.

>doesnt go because he fears sjws in the real world
>it is pol's fault
Wew lad

>calling people who browse Sup Forums stupid while browsing Sup Forums
Congratulations you played yourself.

You are a retard for listening to POL and not getting a college degree. I highly doubt you are smarter than your friend with a sofware engineering degree. You don't need to be a part of the sjw bandwagon at a college campus. I studied engineering at a large public university in PA and landed a good job.

You are 23 and still too young. Go get a STEM degree, now.

I don't believe there's jobs in canada

well all of the canadian indians I know are very successful now, either in engineering or medical students.

There are a lot of software companies in Canada, leaf.
Some of the best jobs in the world.

>listen to pol but don't know how to hide power level
>doesn't hide power level and attend college to gain success
>23 is too late to go to college
W E W L A D
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On line gambling companies
Big money
He who controls the code

lol college is definitely the way to go
otherwise, you're looking at doing 20 years in the industry and still getting paid less than the young guy who just graduated with his bachelor's that summer.

it's an HR checkbox than you'll never overcome. Most professional designations and licenses require a bachelor's degree as a minimum educational requirement.

The only way you can do decent without a degree is having your own business or working for a small business where the owner gives you a high-level position with substantial responsibilities and maybe even a cut of the company.This route requires you working your ass off constantly and being smart; you'll always be insecure though of losing your position to someone who has more education than you.

The market-rate wages for people without bachelor's degrees is substantially less than those who have them. You have very little bargaining leverage because experience is nebulous and not easily quantifiable while a degree from a respected higher-level academic institution means that you met a professional standard.

Anyone that tells you that college is waste of time likely feels insecure that they don't have that education themselves.

What's interesting is, even without a university background (higher level math, algorithmic analysis, etc.) developers still can make more than most other non-uni trades.

Of course, until you demonstrate your competency in the stuff you would otherwise learn at uni, you're never gonna get into a bigger company, i.e. the ones paying $80k+.

Yet the majority of college students work in sub minimum burger-flipping like occupations.

Learn a trade.

Start a business

Make something

Why is it to late?

Even the STEM meme is totally saturated now

Learn something with computers
(networking, programming, etc)

>>is fucking too late for me to go to university
isn't like half of university covered by the government and grants now?

Go to Mexico and become a drug lord (its actually not very hard, my psycho friend did it. Makes like $200/yr, only problem is how dangerous it is)

You don't need to go to college to become a software developer, retard.

it helps, my friend was telling me about some of his coworkers being from college and not university and having substantially less salary

It's never too late user, i finished a degree in business last year and although it's worthless and I'm planning to go back for something else it's been proven that degree holders have better job opportunities than non-degree holders. Just go to school user.

You were supposed to go to trade school, faggot.

Electrician, builder or plumber, for example.

There's literally no better job.

>listening to Sup Forums

Just because college sucks dick and is completely meaningless doesn't mean you should skip it, just that you should hate every moment of it and to not spend money on some fancy college. Also if you weren't going to college, why not apply for the military for free college? That's what my grandpa did and he grew up poor as FUCK.

all of those make only 40-50k a year for basically 20 years, I am already making 45k

i was 26 when i graduated with from a top 25 world university and majored in psychology. now i work in finance and make bank. turning 29 soon.

doesn't mean you have to go to college right now, but you have to do something (not just sitting around getting wasted or whatever)

45k is decent and comfortable desu. Stop larping faggot.

The idea is that you dont have to spend half as much to get to 40k.

>acquaintance who I am definitely smarter than just landed a job at a software company for 90k at 22
>Didn't go to university because he listened to a meme on Sup Forums

You might actually be retarded

and as youre learning your trade you tend to make money, not so much spend it whereas in college you would be paying for at least 4 years and then finally competing for a job and THEN making money

Colin M. summarizes how i feel about the subject:
youtube.com/watch?v=laa50X3zOFY

>trap doms

A person who goes to college will earn more money within a decade.

>he allowed Sup Forums to dictate his life
wow kill yourself you stupid leaf

Not even a better job; just better forethought.
>Friend weighs the options, takes risks, and decides to go to school = earning degree and gets a well paying job
>OP follows a meme on Sup Forums, lived the NEET life, becomes jealous of his friend that actually fucking thought of what they wanted to do with their life instead of looking at a Guatemalan Horticulture board to make his decisions for him.

Fuck, I'm actually pissed with how retarded you are, OP. Why the fuck would you not go to school because Sup Forums told you? Or was it the fact that you were pretty much looking for any excuse to live the NEET life?

>acquaintance who I am definitely smarter than just landed a job at a software company for 90k at 22

OP, get the fuck over yourself. Your a fucking loser. Do something with your life, for fuck's sake. You're not smart; you're probably the dumbest person on Sup Forums right now.

>48k/yr starting unskilled
Jesus what kind of commie shithole do you live in

>am

you know the drill

>is fucking too late for me to go to university
no

lots of stupid people know they're stupid

do u?

THIS RIGHT HERE. OP just stop being a fucking faggot and contribute to your own life. And stop thinking you're definitely smarter than people because I promise you, you aren't.

But in the long run? A white collar job with five years experience pays about 70k. Don't know how much uni costs in Canada and America but you definitely start making a lot more in five to ten years.

you still have your soul

Fuck, you don't even have to go to school. Just learn a trade or whatever you want that makes money. Be a whore if you want to. Just don't do this "woe is me" shit if you didn't put the effort in to deserve it.

join the army user
pay is pretty shit, but all your basic expenses are paid for by taxpayers, pick a good MOS and you'll get the experience you need.

how did you break into finance with that degree?

This. The muh trade meme is seriously overrated. It you're looking to go into corporate it's much easier to have a degree of some sort. If not you have to have an exceptional portfolio.

>try the trade meme
>realize manual labor sucks
>go back to uni
>study my ass off knowing the alternative
>1 year away from degree in marketing and minor in creative writing
>finished my internship with world renowned advertising expert
>offered me full time position when i graduate
glad im not pursuing a career in plunging toilets or shoveling coal

>b-but the liberals!

I've been on Sup Forums and Sup Forums telling people about once a month
that the "college is pointless" meme is bullshit,
but of course you fags won't listen.
You have to do it your own way and live with the mistake.
Fine, more contract work for me.

what do you mean you are too old to go back you fucking retard

Listen, you can skip uni but you can't also be lazy and pathetic.
Go get yourself some IT creds, do some udemy, get yourself into a trade somehow. Do you understand? You can't just NEET it up and then complain like it was anyone's fault but your own. Go get a real job.
>be me
>skip uni
>work hard
>currently working that "requires" a master's degree
>be highest paid in the region
>be nearly famous for being so good at the job
>be debt free
feelsgood.bmp

make no mistake though,
college is fucking hard lol

maybe im just low-IQ but all that shit about "ah dude, undergrad is ez as fuck, you just party on rez all the time" is 100% total fucking bullshit

the exams will fuck you in the ass. You'll get 50 min to do 10 problems that are harder than the practice problems you did and each of those took you 10-20 minutes to complete.

my GPA went for a nosedive after highschool

Go work on an oil rig and make 6 figures a year while working only 6 months out of the year. My brother is doing that out in the Gulf and he is a fucking convict. They don't give a shit as long as you're not a pussy.

I think it's people who dropped out/couldn't cut it in college making a meme of how dumb grads are to make themselves feel better. If you ever want to climb the corporate ladder and be successful you almost definitely need a degree.

code academy? khan academy?
If you like vidya, unity has an EXCELLENT learning AND certification program. I envy you. I wish I were a fucking loser with no prospects so I could dedicate all of my time to learning.