Redpill me on Urobutcher. he's a genius or a hacker?

Redpill me on Urobutcher. he's a genius or a hacker?

He is an edgy author that sometimes makes good stuff and sometimes doesn't.

He's good when someone is there to keep his edginess in check.

I believe Urobuchi is an optimist BECAUSE he knows and accepts reality’s cruelness. Which is something I can and even want to identify with. To me, Urobuchi's style of optimism seems like the only kind with real weight to it – optimism in spite of realism, in spite of accepting and never turning away from the harshness of the world. He accepts the cold realities of these places, but his faith in people is stronger for it.

>Redpill

I really love Madoka.

Everything else he's put his name to has been a horrible disappointment.

Just read saya no uta.

Why do underage plebeians love to swallow this guy's shit?

According to his Wikipedia page:
>He is known for his dark style, nihilistic themes, and tragic plot twists, earning him the fan nickname "Urobutcher."
Literally Intelligent, Nihilistic, and with a wicked sense of humor.

Let's take a look at his most popular works:

>Madoka
"deep" moeshit. This anime would appeal to those still in highschool (perhaps ones who are struggling to keep up their English grades - Shakespeare is too hard to understand right?). The same can be said about Serial Experiments Lain but another hack (not Urobuchi) was responsible for that.

>Fate/Zero
The modern Naruto and Bleach combined into one.

>Aldnoah.Zero
One of the worst mecha shows of recent times and all time. There's a reason us from /m/ say "stick to A/Z".

>muh light novels

Read a real book nigger.

Anybody who likes an Urobuchi show has clearly seen less than 20 series, all of which were made after 2000.

Psycho Pass is a great work. Fate/Zero can be hard to enjoy if you aren't familiar with the visual novel though.

He will make the Philippines great again.

>moeshit
I don't think you know what that word means.

Psycho Pass didn't draw me in. I liked the Fate/Stay Night VN up until Heaven's Feel, but I can't take it seriously, which is why Fate/Zero fell completely flat for me.

But there's the other ones. Gargantia. Aldnoah Zero. That tabletop thing nobody remembers. Absolute trainwrecks. The only defense is that Urobochi isn't credited as an episode script writer on most of the series, but his name's still plastered all over them.

>Read a real book nigger.
Have you fucking seen what they sell nowadays? The average book today is fanfiction tier and back in the old days it wasn't much better either because stuff like Bear got printed and lauded as great literature.

I generally like Urobuchi, but sometimes he just goes full teleports behind you.

>Emiya Kiritsugu’s right hand continued its work of writing while his left hand mechanically shoveled his nutrition – hamburgers from a fast food restaurant he bought while investigating – into his mouth. For nine years, Emiya Kiritsugu had eaten at the table of the Einsberns, who were merely a hair removed from royalty themselves. He had grown tired of the cuisine. This fast food, filled with the sense of slaughter, was more suited to his tastes. Being able to eat without interrupting one’s words or thoughts was better than anything, no matter how you looked at it.

Kikougai was fun, beyond that dunno.

du30

Wonder what would happen if they let Uro, Sakurai and Haganeya in the same room and force them to collaborate.

Who said you should read a modern book?

How unusual to see a Sup Forums Sup Forums cross breed. Wait that was 3 yeras ago

No, you won't force me to read Joyce again.

communist sympathizer

He rips off Ryuki so I say he's a hack.

He had nothing to do with Aldnoah beyond the first 3 episodes, or Chaos Dragon. And he only did series composition for Gargantia, the actual writing was done by someone else.

Why can't you take Bleach/stay night seriously?

He's no Nasu, that's for gosh darned sure!

>Madoka
9/10
>Fate/Zero
7/10
>Psycho-Pass
6/10
>Expelled From Paradise
6/10

Probably because he doesn't want to make the effort to understand complex stories and ideas. It would also explain not being drawn in by a compelling anti-dystopian fiction like Psycho Pass.

...

Fate/stay night =/= complex

What's the point of this post other than showing me your tumblr gif?

Kamen rider is a shitty rubber monster of the week kids show

Madoka is actually good

>This anime would appeal to those still in highschool (perhaps ones who are struggling to keep up their English grades - Shakespeare is too hard to understand right

I have a degree in English literature (my thesis was on Shakespeare) from a top 10 college and I like Madoka.

I wish a long and painful death upon whoever adapted Red Dragon. Readng the transcripts was an absolute blast and a top tier /tg/ experience. Nasu roleplaying a lazy ass to let those two newbies get the spotlight, Uro going full nothing personnel on everyone, Narita just having a giggle. Then Chaos Dragon takes everything good about the original and either cuts it or butchers it into shit.

>responding to pasta seriously

No fucking shit, anyone with an actual background in literature can recognize how technically strong Urobuchi's writing is.

To be honest, all I learned about in school was Marxism, Freudianism, feminism, post-colonialism and ecocriticism.

How strong is Urobuchi's writing?

Gen Urobuchi is probably one of, if not the best writer in the industry today. I think the problem a lot of people have with Urobuchi is that he writes like he's in a totally different industry. Urobuchi is a storyteller in the classical sense, and he writes anime like a novelist, or a playwright. Urobuchi writes stories that attack big ideas and build complex systems. Urobuchi writes sweeping classical tales about the tragedy of human nature.

He's often accused of using characters as philosophical mouthpieces, and that's not entirely inaccurate, but that also gives his stories a fundamentally profound insight. He doesn't write about clashes of good and evil, he writes about clashes of ideology. Characters in Urobuchi stories often seem like pieces on a chess board because their rigid ideals have doomed them in the eyes of the narrative. They are performers cursed to act out their own tragic scripts.

As far as I'm concerned, "Urobuchi doesn't write good characters" is basically the same as saying "Urobuchi doesn't write funny jokes". Of course he doesn't, he's not a comedian. Urobuchi doesn't write bad characters per se, he just writes stories that aren't necessarily about characters. He writes about people as a pluralism, using individuals as a vantage point. .

>this fast food, filled with the sense of slaughter

To be fair, Uro only engineered first few episode of A/Z, then Boku no Pico guy took the script over.

Urobuchi and Sup Forums are both shit.

A genius hack

Because it's goofy as shit. At the end of the day, it's about a high school student who summons King Arthur (who is a girl) and they power up by fucking. Just think about how that first threesome scene in the Fate route goes down.

I enjoyed it well enough because it does move along and has some fun ideas, but all of the expositions dumps in the world could not make me take the setting seriously.

Kikokugai and Saya no Uta are great and the best things he's written with Kikokugai being his magnum opus.

He is another no name forced in Sup Forums

>redpill

>Just think about how that first threesome scene in the Fate route goes down.

Describe it to us in vivid detail.

Rin Tohsaka discovers her bisexuality thanks to King Arthur's vagina.

>moeshit
Kill yourself.

Please let this be bait

Ultimately, what made Madoka good was its plot borrowed from Ryuki. Slap a few cute girls and it'll sell.

I'm surprised that Haganeya and Sakurai haven't already collaborated already.

Then again, it's hard to collaborate with yourself.

Stop samefagging with your pasta and go back to >>>/reddit/

All I asked was why his writing is strong

Sex scenes are non-canon. Also, Nasu didn't invent exchange of bodily fluids for magic yadda yadda, it's been a fictional concept for centuries.

You know it to be true.

Weren't the porn scenes replaced with lore scenes?

Saya no uta is average

He's a mediocre writer with grandiose ideas who fails to think through the details of the worlds he creates and tries to use excessive gore to cover up plot holes.

Weirdly, it seems to work. So many people lap up even his most pretentious drivel. Even supposed 'seasoned critics' completely ate up the first season of Psycho Pass, despite it having one of the most poorly conceived and inconsistent settings imaginable.

That's just part of the Sup ForumsThread bingo, don't take it too seriously

He's misunderstood because most people only know his anime work and not his LN/VN works so they get a skewed perception of him.

He's never written straight up bad LN/VN, at worst mediocre.

Know this isn't really the thread for it, but what Lovecraft creature do people continuously compare Saya too, I keep forgetting.

>plot holes
>pretending to know anything about writing
lol

Underrated post. Urobochi writes a lot of edge but when all the pretense is taken away, a lot of his stories tend to have an optimistic streak to them.

Can we talk about what makes Madoka so good? Because I thought the TV series was brilliant because of the writing, but then Rebellion is made entirely by how amazing the visuals and music are. I can't imagine a script having a scene where Clara dolls are throwing tomatos at Homura or a throwback to the recap movie's opening to represent her cognitive dissonance. It seems way too abstract and complicated.

There's too many buzzwords here for this to not be pasta.

I like Gen but I despise Fate Zero, I think the influx of retards killed it for me. I should really get around to reading Kikokugai and Saya soon.

Shoggoth.

>plot holes
>pretending to know anything about writing
>lol
Do you fail to understand metaphor? You're failing to communicate what you found funny.

you'll understand when you grow up, take a literature class, and stop watching thatanimesnob

Shoggoth.
That said, Blasters confirms that Saya's race is miraculously a lower lifeform than that.

Imagine. Being lower than a Shoggoth.

Why do you hate Fate Zero?

Our hero the god writer of anime. Some kind of standards

Something something and that's why it's the estimate show ever

>I think the influx of retards killed it for me
>letting the fandom kill your interest in a series

Honestly, in every interview of Urobuchi I read he's a really well-adjusted man with interesting opinions.

/thread

You do know that's over a decade old right?

Where'd you read the transcripts?
He forgot to make an actual sympathetic MC that's more than a bland cutout.
Fixed that in Gaim though

Thank you.
>That said, Blasters confirms that Saya's race is miraculously a lower lifeform than that.
Mind spoonfeeding me a bit more, who or what is Blasters.

>There's too many buzzwords here for this to not be pasta.
I was seriously just writing my honest opinion. I don't think he's a terrible writer, but his love of plot twists and convoluted settings gives him a serious weakness when it comes to writing internally consistent plots. Psycho Pass was the worst offender of this in my eyes, as he failed to contrive scenarios that presented real ethical dilemmas which dealt with the role of automation in policing and instead gave us fake 'dilemmas' which could have easily been resolved in a plethora of simple ways.

I think the fact that it was very well directed and had a great aesthetic probably allowed a lot of people to overlook those problems in the writing.

>you'll understand when you grow up, take a literature class, and stop watching thatanimesnob
Ironically, I did take English literature classes in school and I don't watch whoever that is.

>who or what is Blasters.
The recent fighting game I believe, Nitroplus Blasters.

How, shoggoths are fucking blobs, how do you rank lower than tekeli-kun

There was an interview two or three years back with Urobuchi in which he talked about how his writing was influenced by some kind of unrequited love he had, which ended with the girl choosing a different man over him.
Or something like that. I've been searching for it for a while, but I just can't find it anymore.

Still better than Okada

I only read his interviews concerning Kamen Rider personally, and I liked his idea of necessary "poison" in fiction.

That's not exactly a high bar.

Nitro+ Blasters is a crossover fighting game with Nitro+ properties and some other tangentially related properties like Fate.

Essentially, the world in Blasters is a conglomerate of different worlds and the girls fight along the way to go back to their home.
The reason why the world is the way it is in Blasters is Demonbane killed Azathoth and fucked everything up, and Yoguruma Mugen (who is Yog-Sothoth) combines the pieces of the shattered universes into a shitty lil' patchwork universe in part of her plan to have Azathoth be reborn. The reason everything didn't poof in an instant is because Mugen made the instant stretch for an eternity. It's also all canon.

>tries to use excessive gore to cover up plot holes
>using gore
>to cover up plot holes

I don't think you understand what the phrase means, user.

And i thought demonbane couldn't get more retarded

What would be a situation in which gore could cover up a plot hole? Shit's like a riddle to me right now.

It was certainly out of left field, though.
I was not expecting Blasters to be a prequel to D.Y.N. Freaks.

>tries to use excessive gore to cover up plot holes
To metaphorically cover them up. I'm sure you know what a metaphor is: his use of excessive gore distracts viewers from plot holes in his narrative.

It sounds incorrect at a quick glance, but it's a perfectly reasonable sentence. So was that mixing of metaphors I just did then too.

I've read every interview of him I could find and I don't remember that. His major influences are Stephen king (the name Gen urobuchi is inspired by one of his novels), SF writers like Gibson and Chinese shit, he was so into chinese shit he used to wear something like a Changshan to college.

>So was that mixing of metaphors I just did then too.
Don't tip your fedora too hard there.

Is Kureshima Mitsuzane the pinnacle of Urobuchi's writing?

so hows his chink wuxia live action puppet show going OP?

There was a string of three or four threads when the interview first came out, but with the archives being what they are right now, searching for it through Fireden is an impossibility.

>Don't tip your fedora
I was just having harmless fun with words, don't label me as one of those freaks.

>disliking based kamen rider
Pls kill yourself

>filled with the sense of slaughter

Remove this line and it's pretty much fine.

It says something decent about his character in a way. He's not meant to be stuffed up in ritzy German castles eating gourmet and figuring out which fork to use. He spent his life being a mercenary.

The way his character arc ended was ridiculous. Kouta's a fucking idiot.