White Nationalists are Crypto-Marxists

Conflict theory is a sociological model that states that rather than being based on mutual benefit and social cohesion, society is based on conflict between various groups vying for limited resources. White Nationalists believe this, but view the conflict in terms of race rather than class. Just find any Marxist talking point and replace "bourgeois" with "Jews".

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>any nationalist is cryptomarxist
i see you, rabbi

Yes, most their ideas are basically "Marxism for us, autocracy for you"

Mutual benefit and social cohesion does not exist in multicultural societies. archive.boston.com/news/globe/ideas/articles/2007/08/05/the_downside_of_diversity/?page=full

You can't compare immutable biological reality and the fluidity of the construct of class.

Society is based on conflict between various groups vying for limited resources because it's made of various groups vying for limited resources. High-trust and high-functioning societies based on mutual benefit and social cohesion have been homogeneous, or departing from homogeneity, in which case the function and trust of society declines.

He's right Nationalism is fucking retarded each race preserves itself fairly well its when you get nationalists the woman of said race go to another race because of the extreme status quo.

uh huh

The natsocs were just reverse social Marxists.

Untermenschen = Capitalists/Lumpenproletariat
Ubermenschen = Proletarians
Lebensraum = World Revolution

How's your freshman year at Uni, going, faggot?

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Except Marxism calls for debasing the bourgeois for equitable living among all people, white nationalists want...can you guess it?
White nations, no fucks given about how others are doing.

Pretty well, thanks for asking.

Nope, Marx only believed in Socialism for the Germans, not for the slavs, negros or other inferior races.

Your man hitler was a marxist, kid

You should've just ignored him.

Sad how some people never get a proper education, isn't it?

Stormcucks are not big on reading, just shouting slogans and doing drugs

So you're saying now that Marxism has taken over the political spectrum and is forcing mass immigration into white countries, when whites unite to defend themselves in this Marxist paradigm they are the "real" Marxists?

Low IQ retards like you are what are known as useful idiots to the establishment.

By the way, since Jews make up about 43% of the top 1%, if you were pro-Occupy Wall Street you basically believed the same thing as white nationalists which is that the new "bourgeois" are the Jews.

Marxists are of course anti Anglo, pro German. What was the ethnic makeup of East Germany, pray tell?

All commies suck regardless of race. Each and every one that ever was deserves nothing less than eternal hellfire.

Of elevated significance if indeed so

And where is the logic in taking degenerate white liberals above patriotic blacks and Jews of an upstanding moral character?

We'll both are socialists so...

Yep, just Nazis have an emphasis on race. really no difference.

Except marxists want to deny biological reality and erase the factors that fit into their idealized impossible world. Natsocs accept that reality and reaffirm it.

Except White Nationalists also want eugenics and Marxists don't

that don't fit*

Yeah they do.

All humans should be treated as humans my friend.

"Biological reality." At least admit then that Naziism is a godless and materialistic philosophy which derives mind from matter and denies the existence of a soul or the freedom of the will. I am tired seeing so many Nazi and racialist and White Nationalist posters profess that God or religion is necessary to the good of society in spite of this evident contradiction in their thinking.

Thats retarded. But white nationalists need to seriously focus on the dirty little secret that Kalergi was the founder of pan-europeanism. The same Kalergi that wanted an eurasian-negroid mutt race.

> brazil
> retarded
Get out.

Communism is actually more dangerous because it doesn't discriminate based on race.

good one Sixmillionstein, this nation was based on white nationalism you historylet nigger

Both communism and national socialism are meme ideologies that some newfags took seriously when they got on Sup Forums and started believing in this Marxist shit.

*More dangerous for whites.

And they should be, but also be with their own. Regardless if someone forces them to or not, people naturally rather be with people they can identify with socially, mentally and culturally. It is inherent in who we are as humans.

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> all men are created equally
No, and the founding fathers despised slavery.

Tell that to the millions of dead Chinese, Koreans, Cambodians and Vietnamese.

I'm not a nazi so maybe talk to a nazi about it first.

No we should mix in a country but not inter breed.

marxism has nothing to do with race. only the faggots who bastardized his ideas without his permission believe that stuff

No
White Nationalists are Crypto-Jews
They think they are the chosen people and they want a promised land ethno-nationalist like Israel

Nazism stems from fascism/marxism.

Yeah, it's equal outcome murder.

My hierarchy functions are activating

Look at his quotes about race comrade.

I said "Nazi and racialist and White Nationalist."

which ones? theres too many to generalize. most are relatively mundane statements

National Socialism and Fascism has two different flags with two different ethos you know that right? Mussolini didn't give a fuck about race, he cared about nation and how that relates to the state. Nazis cared more about race with nation and the like. German blood. Purity. Go ask a nazi like I said.

Theese for example not to mention his remarks on blacks.

Fuck the state man The people are what matter.

>ultra rich corporate executives and capitalists at the top of media companies are secretly actually marxists guise!
Sure thing dude

Sir Oswald Mosley also declaimed all racial or religious prejudice. This racial fixation is a uniquely German phenomenon. They started World War One on the same principle of thinking themselves a Master Race. It is such a great shame that German militarism and Nazi race-fanaticism have tainted Fascism by association.

They are Corperate execs are trying to merge the state with the market to eliminate it being controlled by the state which they control.

That's not the definition of Marxism though, Marxism is when the means of production is owned by the workers. What you're describing is crony capitalism.

Pure forms of capitalism/marxism are both fucking cancer anyways. Mixed economies are the most prosperous.

It is Marxism But they're just taking it from a different front They're seizing the means of production for themselves.

Nationalism is everything marxism stands for. Marxism is internationalist before anything. Globalist Libertarian cucks and ancaps have more in common with commies than nationalists do. There is nothing more that Marx was afraid of than happy workers in a high wage protectionist economy

>Workers of the world unite
Have you not heard of that phrase you uneducated fuck

You're delusional. Oswald also cared about racial preservation, opposing miscegenation, and disliked Jews and nonwhite immigration, just like the "Nazis". Even Churchill rana campaign called "keep England white". Also consider this quote by Leon Degrelle:

>This racial fixation is a uniquely German phenomenon.
No, before WW2, almost every European cared about their racial makeup,and the English cared about English blood.

>They started World War One on the same principle of thinking themselves a Master Race.
Confirmed bluepilled.The Balkan wars and Jewish bankers started WW1. Read The International Jew by Henry Ford.

Hitler wanted wanted his people to rise up and take a stand against communism and degeneracy. That's where the idea of "Ubermensch" and "Untermensch" come from, not "racial supremacy" and it had nothing to do with WW1.

>German militarism and Nazi race-fanaticism have tainted Fascism by association.
Jewish propaganda is why fascism is tainted.

>It is Marxism But they're just taking it from a different front
You sound retarded.

>Also consider this quote by Leon Degrelle:

Forgot the quote:

aladinsmiraclelamp.wordpress.com/2015/11/20/the-truth-about-national-socialism-german-racialism/
>"German racialism has been deliberately distorted. It never was an anti-“other race” racialism. It was a pro-German racialism. It was concerned with making the German race strong and healthy in every way. Hitler was not interested in having millions of degenerates, if it was in his power not to have them. Today one finds rampant alcohol and drug addiction everywhere. Hitler cared that the German families be healthy, cared that they raise healthy children for the renewal of a healthy nation. German racialism meant re-discovering the creative values of their own race, re-discovering their culture. It was a search for excellence, a noble idea. National Socialist racialism was not against the other races, it was for its own race. It aimed at defending and improving its race, and wished that all other races did the same for themselves."

I have my way you have your way but as for the right way it does not exist.

you're fucking retarded.

the Jewish marxist ideology was INVENTED to justify the Jews being in positions of leadership of society (which they don't deserve) BECAUSE they are fucking oppressive leaders. that is the crux of the Marxism: the overclass is de facto oppressive. THIS IS NOT TRUE. aristocrats, historically, have varied. the religious ones have been very benevolent.

this is the key difference

Who the fuck are you even talking to?

>They're seizing the means of production for themselves.

No, communism seizes the means of production by abolishing private property.

Fascism regulates them and keeps them in check to make sure they don't harm the nation.

Marx was a kike, not a German, and he opposed all forms of nationalism other than Jewish nationalism.

He wanted to stop immigration into Britain and so would I have done had I lived at the time, and still do, but he never said that he would deport Jews or treat them as second-class citizens; he said that he would always treat men on an individual basis. I am in favour of stopping immigration and reversing demographic trends but that is no reason why I should persecute or hate the good non-white people already here, and Mosley would not have done so either. He said that he would take a first-rate black or Jewish man into his cabinet.

Hitler who hated and condemned all Jews indiscriminately would never have said something like this:

“I am not an anti-semite. Anti-semitism is hatred of all Jews on account of their race. I attack some Jews on account of what they do, but I never attack any Jew on account of his birth. I never attack a man on account of his race or religion. If a Jew does something against the interests of Britain or of Europe, he should be attacked like anyone else. He should not be attacked because he is a Jew, but equally he should not be immune from criticism because he is a Jew.”

What Nazis fail to recognize is that you can condemn the behaviour of some Jews and criticize Jews where blame is due without blaming all Jews, as if it were an intransigent fact of their biology to be evil.

Again:

"There was an element of hysteria in the Nazi approach to these things, which ended in disaster. The racial theme was exaggerated and pushed to extremes. An exaggerated and hysterical view of facts which are true in themselves can lead to an inhuman situation in which things are done which frustrate the very idea it was desired to promote. It is right to be proud of your own race and to try to preserve it, but not to lose all sense of balance and proportion on the subject."

They are abolishing private property just not in the traditional way they own everything through a system of debt.

>No, before WW2, almost every European cared about their racial makeup,and the English cared about English blood.

This is only a half-truth. Yes, no European nation would have accepted mass immigration from foreign nations and rightly so. But consider the fact that in the 18th century, Dr Samuel Johnson, one of the greatest figures in our history, gave a substantial sum of money in his will to his black servant, Francis Barber, who had married a white woman in his life time, so that he evidently saw nothing wrong in this. The descendants of Barber continue to live in Lichfield to this day. The eminent Scottish philosopher Dr James Beattie advocated for the complete natural equality of the races in 1770. He wrote, "Had the Europeans been destitute of the arts of writing, and working in iron, they might have remained to this day as barbarous as the natives of Africa and America." I might produce further examples without end. They were patriotic and nationalistic of course, but they were willing to make exceptions on an individual basis and did not believe that blood could "taint" a national stock like a racialist.

> It aimed at defending and improving its race, and wished that all other races did the same for themselves

This is not true; it was an inherently militaristic and expansionist philosophy and economy. But even let that pass. The trouble is that this "improvement" was not to be a truly moral and spiritual one, but to be supposedly effected by mass propaganda, censorship, book-burning, blaming of outsiders for all ills, and inhuman eugenics programs like the Lebensborn project. Again all deriving from a materialistic view of life rather than viewing man as fundamentally being a soul with free agency and responsible for his own virtue or vice.

>Communists are the real racists

Garbage........You falsely contrive bullshit jew "economics" with a national struggle for survival by a world wide minority against lecherous forces primarily marxists

Jews are marxist, its the talmud you fucking idiot, in the talmud the goyim are not allowed to own property Illegal "progressive" wages tax on the goyim check, central bank CHECK, control of transportation and communication through covert and overt mechanism CHECK, Iheritance taxes Check...the communist manfiesto was a blueprint not an ideology for establishing jewish supremacy and jews en masses supported ti to give them the power to unleash their crimes on the world.

>never said that he would deport Jews or treat them as second-class citizens;

It's called putting up a front. Of course he would have done something about Jews and their power over England. You forget that Hitler funded him too.

>Hitler who hated and condemned all Jews indiscriminately would never have said something like this
Again you're just a brainwashed goy. He condemned Jews while acknowledging that not every single one was unredeemable. He just realized the concept of collective group interests.

>"I am not an anti-semite."
The term "antisemitic" was literally created by a Jew named Moritz Steinschneider to suppress criticism of Jewish power and behavior. You're abscribing too much importance to speeches that are just there to bring people over. Literally "I'm not a racist but..."

youtube.com/watch?v=UBtNJF06E6Y
>Former Israeli Minister Admits "Holocaust" and "Antisemitic" Label are "Tricks"

I'm done replying to you. Oswald never accomplished anything (and if he had, he would be remembered the same way Hitler is now because he would have smeared to death and lied about for decades after that to discredit him). After WW2 and all the propaganda against Germany and Hitler, of course he had to distance himself from that to have any hope of political gains.

Nazis abolished usury. They did the exact opposite of what you claim. They removed the Jewish bankers' system of debt, and started printing their own money interest free, then introduced barter trade (goods for goods) with other countries

Again, you're abscribing too much importance to speeches

>Garbage... You falsely contrive bullshit bourgeois "economics" with an international struggle for survival by a worldwide proletariat against the lecherous forces primarily capitalists.
Thanks for proving my point.

>Again, you're abscribing too much importance to speeches

Sorry, this line was meant for the Britbong and his Mosley quotes, not the kike shill with a meme flag and "1 post by this ID"

>"1 post by this ID"

19 posts by thid ID*

>It's called putting up a front

No, not at all. He was a man of principle and stuck to his principles all his life long. Mosley was farthest thing from a Janus-face as it it possible to conceive.

>Of course he would have done something about Jews and their power over England

This is a straw-man. Of course he would. What I said was that he would not persecute or deport men or treat them as second-class citizens simply because they were born Jews. That is not at all like what Hitler did: he said that they were all irredeemably bad simply because of their blood, and he said that every last one had to be annihilated.

The difference between Sir Oswald Mosley and Adolf Hitler is that the one spent all his life trying to prevent a war in which 60 million Europeans were killed, and the other was the chief cause of it. Success is not the criterion of merit. I shall venture to suppose that if there be a Heaven, the former occupies an eminently high place in it; if a Hell, the latter occupies an eminently low one.

Mosley condemned the ill-treatment of Jews before the war so you are mistaken to say that he ever revised his position on that matter.

>60 million Europeans

Sorry, read 60 million people. 25 million Europeans were killed.

Only dumb niggers believe the lesser races would survive the Revolutionary Holocaust.

Marx NEVER said socialism was for races that couldn't achieve capitalism. He NEVER would have approved of Russian Communism

you stupid black cunts

Sure. But humans group up with similar humans and lobby for political power over fellow humans.

If one group starts playing that game, you have to too. It's like a nuclear arms race, but with human race.

Fuck off, kikes.

It's about (((their))) globalist agenda. They want to run a prison planet of border-less, race-less, culture-less, nation-less, identity-less subdued sheep. They make up less than 1% of the world's population, yet look at all they control from the world's finances to the media that brainwashes us.

In short, they use the entertainment and news media to encourage globalism and discourage nationalism and traditional western values. They distort and lie about the present and past in that effort.

The truth about immigration, by the numbers:
>youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE

Cultural Marxist Jews Admit Organizing White Genocide

The plan to eliminate the white race:
>youtube.com/watch?v=bOgkGzMdieI

Cultural Marxism in action… Political Correctness, the tip of the blade:
>youtube.com/watch?v=q6c_dinY3fM

Cultural Marxism & Social Justice explained:
>youtube.com/watch?v=xnqIj8C2Aek

Why are we in decline - Cultural Marxism:
>youtube.com/watch?v=VggFao85vTs

The Jewish role in the refugee crisis:
>youtube.com/watch?v=IfCOO7Z39j0

Leftist subversion explained by former KGB agent Yuri Bezmenov:
>youtube.com/watch?v=2hWYgPDVX_8

also see

The facts about slavery in North America:
>youtube.com/watch?v=b5tci36bNjg
>youtube.com/watch?v=PFHa4db3hA0
>youtube.com/watch?v=A94smJ9QJ5g

Cultural Marxist Jews fund media propaganda against whites on an enormous scale:
>youtube.com/watch?v=hvNNtBmA3SQ

The Jewish role in the porn industry:
>youtube.com/watch?v=gwd_Iofr6ZQ

Does this sound familiar at all? (starting at 6:52)
>youtu.be/kPdxhLUKZYM?list=PLo0ThsDnveH5nv5TNviBrGTX9P6IrYfIe&t=412

The Holocaust:
>youtube.com/watch?v=tPc899uUb-A
>youtube.com/watch?v=jgGP_evkvOk
>youtube.com/watch?v=TxpIsep4160

Marx was right about some things, but he started from some false liberal premises that tainted most of his work.

Please tell me you're some fucking advanced troll or JIDF shill. Nobody who's not retarded could come up with these talking points, know this much about obscure fascists, yet be this bluepilled about everything and shill for kikes this hard.

>he said that they were all irredeemably bad simply because of their blood, and he said that every last one had to be annihilated.
>OY VEY HITLER WANTED TO KILL ALL THE JEWS AND ANYONE WITH BLOND AND BLUE EYES

Do you also believe Hitler had a microdick, one testicle and a poop fetish? He never once said anything you claimed.

>The difference between Sir Oswald Mosley and Adolf Hitler is that the one spent all his life trying to prevent a war in which 60 million Europeans were killed, and the other was the chief cause of it.

No, the chief cause was kike bankers wanting to keep Germany's economic system from spreading, and England and France starting WW2 because ethnic Germans were being raped and tortured and retake Danzig with was 95% German after WW1 but was still effectively controlled by Poland.

The USSR invaded Poland around the same time but there's only one country you declared war on.

Countless offers of peace by Hitler were denied.

>Germany dindu nuffin! This German propaganda says so!
>muh joos

Well, Marxist communism is actually more right wing than liberalism/libertarianism. True right wing is monarchist feudalism, and communism is essentially democratic feudalism. This makes it more right wing than liberalism, which is fully individualist and doesn't share the communitarianism of right wing feudalism and semi-right communism. Really, communism just gets the democracy part wrong, since democracy is possibly the worst procedure for decision making. This is why socialism is the best, since it extends the feudal idea to the industrial age and beyond.

>Hitler is the most evil man in the world and is responsible for all the trouble in the world. This Jewish and Soviet/Ally propaganda says so!
>muh Natzees

Shlomo you're not fooling anyone with these threads.

Remember kids: Hitler did nothing wrong.

Most of the quotations in your picture are fake or misleading. The first one for example is fake.

forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=7259

The stuff about "ethnic Germans were being raped and tortured" is mere propaganda from TGSNT.

"The event alleged in TGSNT as "the Danzig massacre" is a hoax; what Dennis Wise is most likely referring to is rather an event known as "Bloody Sunday" which took place in Bromberg (today the city of Bydgoszcz) and firstly happened three days AFTER the German invasion of Poland and secondly many of the involved Volksdeutsche were in reality part of a poorly trained Pro-Nazi paramilitary force called the Selbstschutz who attacked the organized Polish Army during the German invasion and got the shit wrecked out of them as a result. When the Wehrmacht came across this, they reported their deaths back to Nazi leadership in Germany who used it for propaganda purposes ("muh innnocent defenseless German civilians hacked to death by Polish barbarians") to justify their invasion of Poland that had already begun via false flag (Gleiwitz incident[10]) and subsequent reprisals against the Polish populace once the nation was erased from the world map for the next 6 years and turned into a new entity known as the Generalgouvernement."

Had Hitler kept to his own borders there never would have been a Second World War. He had many sympathizers in Britain and, if Communism had invaded Europe, we would have banded together with him to fight it. He lost the moral high ground and brought his calamities upon his own head. Sir Oswald said exactly this.

"I blame both the Jews and Hitler for the Second World War: Hitler for driving east, before he had got a diplomatic arrangement with us; Jews, for gradually persuading us, or the British people or government, to do absurd things which were bound to result in war. I was against both mistakes."

youtube.com/watch?v=HNhF28fzN9I&feature=youtu.be&t=219

>Hitler did nothing wrong.
>Siege of Leningrad.
Lemme guess, it's the Jew's fault.

>Remember kids: Hitler did nothing wrong
Being this delusional
Hitler was an evil psycho but you keep denying it and the fact that you are Canadian which means that your nation never experienced the horrors of national socialism, only reinforces my point

canadians need to be gassed

No shit. Nationalism is Leftist, and so it looks very similar to other Leftist ideologies seeking to utterly remake society with no respect for the traditions of the past.

They are not Marxist, but you are correct that nationalism requires a conflict to work. Nationalism without a perceived enemy cannot manifest itself, people are generally not collectivists.

The ideologues in the NSDAP understood this perfectly well which is why the state was modeled as a military regime, the purpose of which was an expanding German empire.

The current alt-right has the fantasy of nationalism but doesn't understand the implications (some do), it will require a massive amount of violence to sustain any kind of genuine nationalist feeling.

not a fucking argument in sight

if you wish to make one you're going to have a hell of a time trying to argue racial conflict doesn't really exist

how did humans evolve?
tribal structure

How do white nationalists propose we organize ourselves
tribal/ethnic structure

White nationalism is compatable with biology, and all fundamental truths of nature. All other ideologies ignore the realities of human evolutionary biology in order to funnel them in to some unnatural box defined by arbitrary first principles.

Marxists are utopian egalitarian idiots who reject the fundamental biological truths of human nature

Well then they were wrong weren't they? Because it does in fact 'taint blood' and you in Britain are finding that out at an increasing rate every day. But have fun shitposting about how the 'evil Germans and their absolutely 100% unique militarism which no one else has ever displayed ever' have ruined Europe. And don't forget to post your 'Pax Brittanica' wiki article as well - we all know that Britain is a perfect angel who only ever tries to keep peace after all.

The ancient Athenians exterminated the people of Melos, who were fellow Greeks, but offered citizenship to the Phoenician Semite Zeno on account of his virtue. Evidently tribalism is not racially absolutist.

I know many people of different races who are indistinguishable from white Englishmen, many conservatives of an upstanding moral and intellectual character. I also know many degenerate and wicked and Communist white people who want to institute immorality of all kinds and open the borders to the world. So no, I don't see how it taints the blood. The problems we have derive from mass immigration and multiculturalism.

He did his absolute best for an arrangement with Britain. The British bastards reeled when they saw Hitler's Marienwerder proposals because they were TOO fair and there was no way Hitler could be painted as being too demanding in that situation no matter how hard British propagandists tried. Both WW's were not fought over 'humanitarian' reasons. It was greed, pure and simple. The need to destroy a dangerous commercial rival. Both in WWI and WWII this was the case between Germany and Britain. Mosley for all his insight should have been able to recognize this fact, that money rules in these 'democracies', especially England and America. Or maybe he did, but knew if he said anything about the wrong people, he would mysteriously disappear.

Positivism is dead, along with God.

That's not the point and what you saying is literally a civic nationalist talking point. Are you telling me if you had to choose between your own people who were 85 IQ savages and another people who were 105 IQ average that you would choose the 105 IQ? The point is that those degenerate people are still YOUR people and those upstanding characters of different racial backgrounds ARE NOT. It is YOUR genes that are on the line, the future of YOUR people. That's the point of the Ubermensch and the Untermensch. Both can exist within any race. It is your job to do your best to be the Ubermensch and inspire others to join you. If you marry an Indian or an African or an Asian than your bloodline is irreversibly tainted. The genes of your people have been diluted and part of it lost forever. That's it. Game over. Would you really be alright with Britain becoming Chinese for example because they have a higher average IQ? The point is that no matter how superior or inferior a people is to YOUR people, they still remain YOUR people. Without them, you too will cease to exist.